/lit/ - Literature

>and why you haven't made any progress on them
I spend the first 8 hours of my freetime nonstop jumping between tabs until my brain can 'settle down' long enough to write for 15 minutes of which I delete half

Who was in the wrong, the GOC or the goddess, /sffg/?

http://www.scpwiki.com/forum/t-561991/the-leak#post-1716379

Fuck E William Brown

>>16217290
>the goddess
Dumb bitch, why didn't she instead do a ritual to give humans the technology to restore nature instead of one that tears down everything they've built?

>the goc
Didn't rape the whore and the whore daughter before killing them. What a waste of divine pussy.

What are some great fantasy poets that have a collection of their works available?

Why are self published authors putting footnotes i there boo!s?

>>16217364
Reminder that pic related did it first and did it so well that it will never be topped again.

Haven't read the ebook versions but I have no idea if it would even work on a medium that's not a physical book.

The "footnotes" I see these days in ebooks are usually tiny numbered links which take you to a section at the end of the book. They're fucking awful and I hope the writers who put them in die horrible deaths.

Give me ONE reason to dislike Sanderson

>>16217419
There are none. Shallan is bae.

>>16217331
Tolkien

>>16217331
Homer

>>16217286
turn off your wifi when you're getting ready to write, either just on the machine or the whole router. Or go somewhere where there isn't wifi or you don't have the password for it. You can force your monkey brain to settle down so you can be productive, but it takes *determination*.

>>16217266
>>16217266
>Tell us all about your shit ideas and why you haven't made any progress on them
I've been thinking about writing a scifi story where nobody uses names for anything.All businesses just have blank signs out front and any products they sell are labelless. I haven't worked out any conflict or reasoning behind why they don't use names(at least not relating to a plot). I have an idea of the main character walking down the street, going into a coffee shop and getting their drink all without having any direct dialogue between characters. I think it would work better as a short story than as a novel or any longer kind of work because its just a throwaway idea I had and I don't really have any ambitions of writing or being published. The inspiration came from the "noname brand" from canada but I wouldn't have the actual name of the products used, it would all be exposition/ sense data.

>>16217609
The Nation of Nonouns

>>16217266
I actually have made progress.

I've decided the best way to screw up my young protagonists' relationship without getting nsfw is having the girl get her first period right as they're about they're about to kiss. Only question is where it should happen

in a pillow fort or in a swimming pool?

>>16217266
I put a lesbian relationship in my series. I am kind of nervous because I know people get triggered over shit like this. But in the end it's what I wanted to write.

>>16217928
It sells too. Advertise that it's lgbtqoprt+ friendly and you'll get droves of people giving it 5 stars and rave reviews. If you want to go one step further, publish it under a female pen name.

>>16217266
>>Tell us all about your shit ideas and why you haven't made any progress on them
I can’t because I actually have made progress on them. Got a notebook full of ideas, maps, characters, plot points, etc. only 7000 words so far into actually writing it but I’m getting there.
>writing seltzer
Check
>thinking Mets hat
Check
>homemade 1200 song Spotify playlist
Check
>faith of the heart
Check. Yeah I’m thinking I’ll be published within at least a decade. See you there anons

>>16217928
Whoa so brave.

>>16217409
based bartimaeus chad

i read the emperors blades and the world/prose were decent but the characters were so cringe that i couldnt enjoy it. Also the writing was really absurdly bad at times. anyone have good fantasy recs with fun magic fights and shit? I really liked prince of nothing and worm

>>16218037
What was cringe about the characters

>>16218037
fuck adare the bitch whore

China Mieville in the right here

>>16218075
>China Mieville in the right here
this but unironically

>>16218075
This is basically a child trying to shit talk his grandfather who knew more and accomplished more than he ever will in his lifetime.

>>16218075
Every single time. Please stop. You're becoming worse than the faggots who come to defend Sanderson and Rothfuss, demanding explanations.

>>16218075
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_weird

What do you guys think of this movement that China was in?

>>16218097
>accomplished more
Tolkien didn't even enjoy his legacy of impressing a bunch of hippies and potheads. I doubt he'd enjoy his fat LOTRaboos or film adaptations either.

sffg discord - https://discord.gg/KWPCM7m
currently reading The Rage of Dragons
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41952489-the-rage-of-dragons

>>16218109
It's basically just rehashed. I have no idea what a retvrn to weird would do for sff other than make it less saturated with cookie cutter high fantasy or whatever science fiction tropes. But even huge classic sci fi like the first Alien took a lot from Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness.

>>16217966
>only 7000 words so far into actually writing it but I’m getting there.
You already told us 6000 of those words are complete shit, which means you have to rewrite them, so you have nothing.

>>16217658
Such a thing wouldn't stop my alpha protagonist

>>16218053
>>16218055
adare was written to be strong and comptentent but was actually an emotional dumb little girl. Also kaden being an overly emotional little bitch despite training for 8 years to kill his emotions. Also turbosimp valyn acting like a highschooler despite being a trained killer who youd think wouldnt be so soft. I dropped it when they introduced the assassin priestess of death character, what a generic cringe character.

Also the book had some seriously cringe female empowerment shit going on. Aadare and valyns gf were both supposed to be strong or whatever but they were just incredibly stupid and overly emotional. I wondered if on some level the author was a based misogynist but i dont think he was that cool.

>>16217266
Which European countries have the most interesting myths, folklore, and fantasy literature?

>>16218210
England/UK

>>16218210
Uk and Germany

>>16218075
>my schlock should be the mainstream waah
This is just Michael Moorcock all over again. What a derivative pleb.

>>16218210
Any of the Slavic or Scandinavian countries for myths and folklore.

UK for literature.

>>16217609
So is there just one standard version of everything, or are all products individually made to order JIT by invasive product research AI?

>>16217419
Sanderson is a good author, right?
Why would you want to dislike him?

>>16218037
FUCK ADARE

>reading some stuff by an author you haven't touched in a long time
>hasn't put out anything in 2 years
>notice his bio comments mention his wife in a past tense
:-(

Second Apocalypse is a slog to read (like most modern epic fantasy) and unnecessarily grimderpy to an extreme degree, but Bakker made the Consult feel truly, TRULY horrifically evil; even when giving them a fairly understandable motivation. Their not-Mordor comes across as a genuine 'hell on earth.' It'd be nice if Bakker would make the switch to writing short stories and novellas; of course he'd never do that because there's barely any money in short stories anymore.

>>16218353
E william brown doesn't have this excuse.

>>16218363
The slog of slogs, boys.

>>16218210
Does North America have any cool folk tales?

We burgers are not THAT uncultured, right, anons?

>>16218380
Read Pigeons from Hell.

>>16218380
Not a burger, native americans have pretty cool folklore though right?

Immigrants don't have shit since they left theirs behind in Europe and it was too late to start over again. Uncultured piggies.

>>16218353
He's wasting gold, he should channel that shit and write as much as possible. I would pay to have a state of mind like that if I could.

>>16217409
Can confirm. Good taste anon.

>>16218414
depends on the tribe. each one has its own stuff going on. Personally, I'm a fan of the Aztec and Navajo mythologies. The former is about as eldritch as it gets while the latter has a pretty unique cosmos that more or less claims our race has isekai'ed multiple times

>>16218380
american folk tales are complicated because we have such a short history. We don't have a single one that was invented before the printing press, so most of them get classified as literature, urban legends or conspiracy theories rather than folklore.

That said, we do have Tall Tales and slave stories like Br'er Rabbit. Most of them are no longer popular thanks to westerns and the romanticization of the pre-war south falling out of fashion though, but there's still some well known ones like Paul Bunyan

fuck, I should have written last night. I lost momentum and now I can't the words to flow because that stupid hazbin hotel song is playing in my head

>>16217266
after studying prime examples of Sword and Sorcery, demonology and the early history of islam, I'm writing my own sword-and-sorcery hero in a series of short stories, based on Mohammad, as a demon hunter.
First short story 1st draft completed. Now writing 2nd draft.

>>16217327
I like how you think fren. Any recs along those lines?

>>16218548
I'm sure it will suck, anon, but I'm all for S&S (or any heroic fantasy) taking place in settings other than fantasy versions of Medieval Europe.

>>16218541
You have a plot
You wish to tell

>>16218548
What's your UVP

Any book recommendations that focus on occult shit, rituals, sacrifices etc? Besides Lovecraft.

>>16218459
A few South American abbos had some very weird aesthetic too btw

>>16218663
You'd be better off asking for (short) stories instead of full length books for that kinda stuff. A couple of short stories I would recommend would be The Charnel God by Clark Ashton Smith and Sing a Last Song of Valdese by Karl Edward Wagner. If you want something in a more modern setting you should read Sticks by Wagner as well. It's a pretty famous and popular story that influenced stuff like The Blair Witch Project all the way to True Detective.

>>16218641
I do but I can't feel the words coming weaving together in my head. all I can hear is a gay spider bragging about his coke addiction

>>16218363
I really, really enjoyed the Consult as villains. It ticks all the right boxes. Probably my favorite villains in fantasy. Just the sheer grotesqueness of them.

How did Bakker do it?

>>16217419
Shit prose.

Has anyone read new Baru Cormorant book?

>>16217419
I have two
>word economy
>Shallan

>>16218981
Not possible, he has no prose.

>>16218663
If you're not one of the turbo autists, Horrorbabble on youtube has a lot of occult 'audiobooks'

>>16217266
any books like ops pick?

books that have illustrations in them?

>>16217266
>why you haven't made any progress on them
If I'm allowed to be dishonest, it's that I'm afraid most of what I want to write isn't particularly compelling. And why would it be? I'm writing a thesis on useless hypotheticals and trying to pass it off as a story! Yet I can't think of a better medium to preserve and proliferate my thoughts.

If I'm being honest? It's because I'm lazy and easily distracted. I just need to work harder at finding compelling narratives within these hypotheticals.

>>16219359
Clifford the Big Red Dog.

>>16219374
Author anon here.
Sci-fi is always harder to write than fantasy I have found.
You can wing fantasy for the most part and do ad hoc worldbuilding.
But Scifi - you get one thing wrong (such as a metal for a frame for a ship used for interstellar flight), and suddenly you've got thousands of angry neckbeards saying that the thing would never work and trash it.

Keep at it anon, there's merit alone for trying.

>>16217266
only ever read manga or webtoons, whats a good starter fantasy book or series i should read?
pref no name of the wind, lotr or got

thx

>>16218766
Eating his own cum

>>16219301
>If you're not one of the turbo autists, Horrorbabble on youtube has a lot of occult 'audiobooks'
I'm looking more for fantasy with an occult influence.

>>16219436
The Hobbit > LoTR, and very different besides - so I strongly recommend giving it a try. There's also the Old Kingdom series, which was my favourite as a child. Finally, pretty much anything by Terry Pratchett is worth reading if you haven't already.

>>16218420
Probably did the opposite and killed any desire to create anything further. Who knows.
>finish one short story collection
>go to leave a review because it only around six total
>some dumb woman saying it would be better if the MC didn't change sides and had stronger inner strength/faith
>becomes a slave errand boy of a mad powerful wizard-king who could quite literally control his body if he refused
dumb women

>>16219511
>the Old Kingdom
Based. I never see it discussed here, probably because it's a bit YA and because it's Australian and doesn't seem to have exploded overseas. It is pretty great though, especially Lirael.

>>16219542
Sounds like night angel trilogy

>>16219556
People recommend the abhorsen trilogy all the time. They just never call it the old kingdom series.

>>16219571
Nah, it's nothing popular at all. Literally just some middle-aged dude who self-publishes on Amazon. A Night Angel book wouldn't have a mere six reviews.

>>16218278
>tripcode
Faggot

>>16219577
It's been a few years since I read it, but I felt the sequel books weren't as good. Is that the general consensus?

FUCK ROTHFUSS

>>16219556
>>16219585
Lirael was definitely my favourite, too, followed by Sabriel IIRC. Also The Creature in the Case was quite enjoyable in the context of revealing more about the rest of the world. It's been a while since I've read them, so it could be a maturity thing.

>>16219603
Yeah I like Nix's short stories. He has a pleasant way of writing which is as brief and easily digestible as YA without making me feel like an idiot or a child to read it.

Talking about it makes me want to reread Deltora Quest, but I havent touched that since I was about 13 and I imagine it's probably much more childish.

>>16219017
No replies.

>>16219625
I lasted about 2 chapters into the second book and completely forgot about existence of the series.

>>16219436
Cradle, it's easy to bite into and the closest thing to manga, LNs and other chink shit in general.

>>16219636
The last third of the second book is actually really good.

>>16217444
>>16218333
Got any more pics of gangster Sanderson? Asking for a fren.

>>16219661
>but 2/3rds of it is complete shit
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement anon.

>>16219672
At least the worldbuilding is great throughout whole book.

>>16219678
>but things that actually matter like plot, character, prose and dialogue are all garbage
Thanks anon, nobody has ever convinced me not to read a book quicker than you have.

>>16219580
Commonweal series?
Demons of atslan?

>>16219727
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU79TGG/
It's overall short for five tales and cheap if you want to check it out. It made me feel, specifically the ending bits of the last story. I've posted about other stories by the guy over the years to little/no avail.

>>16217419
>7 million

>>16219667
Make youyour own?
Would only take 10 mins in gimp.

>>16218666
Me on the left.

I've been enjoying relatively "obscure" fantasy lately. Things like The Death Gate Cycle by Weis+Hickman. Anyone got recs in that vein?

Should I?

>>16217266
>mfw still reading Riddley Walker

I can't take the Riddleyspeak for extended periods of time.

>>16220335
It's got a lot of sex scenes in every book, was pretty awesome for middle school me.

>>16220468
I'd take something light right now. Been reading far too much epic shit and just want to read something thats fun, as long as its not too cringe.
It seems to have some occult shit in it as well, which is something thats been on my mind more lately.
Guess I'll check it out.

>>16218120
The Rage of Dragons CHAPTERS SIX TO SEVEN

> It was sick, masochistic.
Toxic motivation, as you said.

> Demon-death
Related to the Cull. Also kills the Hedeni.

>Enervators, Enragers, Edifiers, Entreaters
Very E. Seems didn't use a Xhosa word for these.
Enervators: Debuffer
Enrager: Buffer
Edifier: Sends long distance messages.
> From the prologue, "The messenger, a Gifted Edifier, entered a trance and sent out the messages."
Overlooked details. Close reading this is not.
Entreaters: dragon stuff

> Single breath...feel like 50 or even 100 in the underworld
Time dilation training!

>quarter-span
So, 15m cooldown timer?

> Nobles had natural born advantages
Do do they really?

> comfort lodges
Brothels

> rotted cactus milk
They have cacti. Seems to be a "water kefir".

> must marry one of them, a Royal-Noble
Is this the only way to improve your caste? Since the child takes on the caste of the mother, would the child still be a common even with a royal-noble? At least this cuts down on incest, depending on how many nobles there are. I think it said there were only around 500 gifted.

> last among the the initiates who won more than he lost to Tau
Tau is making swifter progress than I expected.

> second sword
Dual wielding it is.

> Preceptor
Is this supposed to be Umqondisi? The inconsistency continues.

> Ukufa (death) and Ananthi (larger, more, greater) and the story
So, that's The Cull. Unclear how much is literal.

> only women are ever Gifted
Why? Also, probably why they're matriarchal.

It's a lot easier to enter Isihogo than I thought it'd be.
Odds that Tau draws power from it seems near 100% to me.
Will Tau be moments from death and make a pact to gain power like those of The Cull? Possibly.
I keep thinking that the demons look like dinosaurs. I imagined some kind of raptor for the two legged one. It's probably entirely different and I had a few other alternate images.

What did he mean by this?

Going bookshop tomorrow and I'm so excited guys!!!

>>16217266
How come all the suggestions in this thread are always shit?

>>16220639
Because I left till just now. Fantasy fags must fucking hang. I'm leaving again, also.

>>16220626
I'm locked in my house, slowly decomposing as covid tears apart the remnants of my lungs, can you pick up a copy of Mistborn for me??

>>16220626
We had to turn ours into a makeshift morgue. The books will serve as kindling for the pyres. lol, Kindle!

>>16220639
You either don't browse these threads very much or you just don't like SF and Fantasy, cause I've seen recommendations running the full gamut here.

>>16218380
Yeah, John Henry
Man vs machine and giving his life to beat it, symbolizing the determination of the human spirit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vomD3EDRNs

>>16220790
I mean, fair, but a lot of recs are really tropey.

>>16217266
Been writing sword and sorcery short stories in a world with civilizations modeled off of our own (norse, egyptian, Babylonian, Japanese, etc) complete with ruins, tombs, etc from a dead bronze age civilization (based off the ancient greeks) that was killed off by elves
Purpose of the stories is to act as the main characters "12 labors" ala Hercules

Problem I've been having though is that thus far 3/4 stories have ended with hero fighting big bad underground. Number 5 may end in a similar way as idea was to have him go kill a sorcerer/lich hiding in one of the bronze age civilization's forts to end a plague that it has sent on a village. Need to come up with different ideas

>>16220909
>norse, egyptian, Babylonian, Japanese, etc

How hard is it to research foreign cultures and adapt old legends into palletable short stories?

Is it any good? Looking for some good science fantasy that isn't Planetary Romance or Dune. Hyperion is already on my list

>>16220933
One of them is an adaptation of the Argonautica, basically what if Hercules caught back up with Jason who had abandoned him and wants to kill him

Guess I should read myths besides Greek ones.

>>16220971
fuck, forgot the pic

>Get on more mailing lists than ever for my new book giveaway
>Zero sales after promotion ends
>Giveaway results in five ratings on Goodreads, even less than my first book
I think I'm done being amazon exclusive. Do any of you have experience with Royal Road?

I asked this in the last thread but no one awnsered
Are the chronicles of amber worth reading?

This fucking blows.

>>16221155
Do you have a hot guy on your cover with a dragon and a tiger

>>16221357
No, it's a female protagonist thing so I have a hot girl.

>>16221343
It sucks ass

>>16219596
Definitely overrated, but it's still kind of fun to listen to. Like a guy making up a story by a campfire, not really sure how he's going to live up to the promise of the prologue.

All I do is rape rape rape no matter what, got pussy on my mind and I can never get enough, any time a girl steps up in the building my cocky just goes up! And it stays hard, and she says "no", and it stays hard. In out, in out, in out, cause all I do is rape, rape, rape And if you goin' in, put your dick in the air, make 'em stay hard

>He stared out at the gray clouds fluttering along the top of the peaks, and his mind wandered back through his own life. When he pondered such, he supposed he had had a sad life. There was no one to love him. No wife, no children, no parents, not even a cousin or aunt or uncle or niece or nephew. Not even a friend. All were dead. But he did not normally think of such things, nor did he consider his life tragic, despite his being so alone and despite his long magical enslavement by the wizard king Verkain. Life was what it was, nothing more, nothing less.
tfw nobody loves you
feels bad man

>>16220979
>>16220971
have read, can recommend. that book also has a prequel called "A Deepness in the Sky"

I finally finished reading Lord of the Rings for the first time.

I won't lie, bros. I felt my eyes water at the ending. I'm amazed it was never spoiled to me after all these years of not reading the books.

I know it's a series aimed at "the big kids" but, man...

Where do I go from here? Should I even read another epic fantasy series or is it all downhill from here?

What can I do to honor the memory and talent of Tolkien?

>>16222240
Read the appendices. If you like them read the silmarillion

>Children of Time
Had some fun reading this, but the pacing was all over the place. The setting was quite unique. The worst part would be some annoying monologuing and some crappy and shallow characterization in a few characters, which reminded me of old school SF in that aspect. I don't really care for the 'character progression' meme, but in those classic books, characters were just vehicles for ideas and plot, and you liked them or you didn't.
The spiders are disposable, presented in an episodic format, which benefits this apparent shallowness. But after 600 pages, you're stuck with the same humans and their repetitive patterns.

Maybe 3-3.5/5. Would recommend for the novelty.

I read the sequel was more space operaish, and I have a few other books in that genre I'll probably read before I give it a chance.

>>16222400
So it's worth reading then?

>>16222492
Maybe.

>>16222240
well Malazan is all of the scale and graduer of LOTR but with none of the soul.

The Chronicles of Narnia were written by C.S. Lewis who was close friends with Tolkien, there are seven books and all of them are relatively short, but other than that there's nothing else that really comes close. There's a reason LOTR is still the be-all end-all of high fantasy.

>>16222240
Read The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson

>>16222240
There is nothing as good as LotR. In my view nothing even comes close. Sorry, friend.

>>16221343
I know but I still enjoyed the trilogy just for the unique concepts.

I read the officially sanctioned and published fanfic sequel. That was, very literally, fanfic-tier.

>>16222240
>>16222901
In high fantasy? No. But Conan is pretty good. The Hour of the Dragon is still my favorite fantasy novel I think

>>16223116
Based

>>16222240
>Where do I go from here?
Take the Terrypill

>>16222240
For my money the best LotR knockoff is the Thomas Covenant series, but maybe you need to try some others to appreciate it. I mean that in that it takes itself seriously and is richly imagined, not that it is as successful at it as LotR. But I read it many, many years ago and a lot of scenes are still vivid to my mind.

>>16221199
yes. all 10 books, really. But the first 5 are essential reading. I thought this was common knowledge.

My book takes place in a world destroyed by an alien organism that's assimilated with human technology to create terrifying eldritch tech-ominations.
It follows a girl who, after a long period of complete isolation in an apocalypse bunker, begins hallucinating her semi-abusive father who occasionally (when he's not berating her for being helpless) offers advice for helping her survive on her quest to shut down "The Factory", the area where the alien organism has set up shop to mass-produce its monstrosities.
I haven't made much progress because I've been spending too much time trying to research just how poorly-adjusted to certain tasks isolated individuals become.

/sffg/, I just wrote the first half of the scene I've been bitching about for the past few weeks and I'm not sure if I can do this. I might have to scrap the entire quarter of the book, or censor it so heavily that that it feels like a cop-out

>/SFFG/ Discuss books I want to write and don't even exist General

>>16223614
>begins hallucinating her semi-abusive father
Am I predicting your using this as a vehicle to include Kingian child sex in your book?

>>16223691
Nah, I'm a faggot and I respect women
No horny writing here

>>16223614
Sounds like a ya novel. Movie potential is there funnily enough

>>16220979
The setting is pretty great, but the series gets progressively more awful. To the point that he totally forgets the context he set up by the 3rd book. Which is literally strong wamen good, space nazis bad.

Im pretty sure I'm the only one inserting pedoshit into my book and I hate every minute of writing it. On one hand it's more emotionally complex and honest than anything I should be capable of writing as a sperg, on the other hand it's going to get me blacklisted through the entire industry and ruin every one of my relationships with friends and family if I let them read it. Worse yet, I literally can't think anything to replace it with that wouldn't strip out that emotional depth

I'm probably going to have to rewrite this entire quarter of my book eventually or else scrap the whole thing. It pisses e off so much I can't breathe

>>16224059
>Worse yet, I literally can't think anything to replace it with that wouldn't strip out that emotional depth
>pedoshit
anon are you an actual pedophile

*Buggers you*

>>16224126
anon, let's be honest. I literally cannot say no to that question because if I do you'll just assume I'm lying.

Even getting near the subject is walking on eggshells, and it's not going to get any better any time soon because its intrinsic harmfulness to others hampers any attempt to approach to talking about the pathology behind it

>>16224183
>hampers any attempt to approach to talking about the pathology behind it
So yes

>>16222240
Really the only 3 fantasy books one ever needs to read in this order is: LOTR, the Solar Cycle, and the Second Apocalypse.
Then you’re done. You can get on with life.
Idk about sifi though

>>16223614
>it follows a girl
Dropped

>>16224059
Post your pedoshit before you scrap it.

>>16224198
you know what? fuck it. this isn't constructive.

Long story short, the MC (I must stress that he is 13 and his crush is 12) is starting to fear that there's too big a maturity gap between him and the girl he's desperately in love with, and that he's a pedophile for being interested in her (despite the fact that he's only one year older than her). In truth, he's a lot less mature than he thinks he is, but has incredibly high expectations of how grown up he needs to act.

The problem is, the way I'm showing his growing discomfort and internal conflict is by him fixating on her perceived childishness whenever he feels romantic tension between them, and then internally hating himself for it.

To make matters worse, there's basically three romantic subplots dealing with this at the same time. In one of the other two, the maturity gap is very real and the male character is rightfully trying to defuse it. In the third, the maturity gap is even more extreme and the character in question is an outright villain and pedophile who sort of raised guy #2 to follow his example.

so yeah, three situation where pedophilia is coming up at the same time. In each case pedophilia is treated as a bad thing, but the cases become more morally complicated the closer you get to the MC, and I'm worried that people will see the MC's conflict and misinterpret the issue I'm trying to lay down

>>16224059
Post some lines, also bro it’s really not that big of a deal, it’s not even a deal, just be a chad about it, idk, I can’t imagine myself tripping out over something as mundane as pedophilia

>reading ten year old blog posts of an author talk about future stories he never ended up writing

>>16224421
Broooooo, when I was in 8th I had a girl in 7th, do you wanna know how many times, after completely violating her (albeit in 13 yr old esqe vibes), how many times I felt a pedo’s remorse?? Yeah literally zero times. Thirteen year olds getting any kind of action, maybe not too young, any kind of action, are seriously chilling bro. You’re weird if you’re drawing this from personal.
Also I made >>16224471

>>16224527
You make it sound worse by defending it

>>16224545
Defending what?
13 + 12 isn’t shit. Is 17 + 16 pedophilia? 9+8? With my current gf , it was the 17+16 schtick. Okay I see that I’m running a pattern here... I might be a pedo...

>>16224421
Anon you're a pedophile, just write about anything that's not pedophilia if that's not too difficult for you. Especially don't write 3 separate pedoplots

Jesus

>>16224059
Sort of a weird question, is there a way to find out which publishers have a certain 'tag' or theme they immediately blacklist?
I have a theme of consensual incest (legal in the nation the piece is set in) and I am worried that where I live (where incest is not legal I'm pretty sure - at least frowned upon), the publishers might pick it up as a detractor.
Not like it's 100% incest all the way through or subtly implied, it's full blown Brother-Sister marriage.

>>16224670
Youre a faggot

>>16224609
What I’m trynna say is that this little nigga should write his books however he wants, because literally fucking no one cares. Well obvi some faggots like yourself do. But bro, I’m reading PoN right, and akkas talking about how he, as a young kid, was deadass having gay butt boy sex and I didn’t even bat an eye. I was like yeah that’s gay, kept on reading. OP and you are some of the softest HOMOS I’ve ever come across on this board. Extremely unbased

>>16224682
>What I’m trynna say is that this little nigga should write his books however he wants, because literally fucking no one cares
If he doesn't want feedback don't post in a public forum, dummytard

>>16224609
the sad thing is this wasn't even supposed to be about pedophilia. it just fit together that way too perfectly like this. Now I can't figure out how to disentangle it without damaging it and the rest of the story is too important to me to scrap.

fuck. okay. let me think.

hypothetically, I can cut two of the pedo plots if I give the villain character some other cardinal sin to focus on, and for the main character's plot I can shift the conflict from "oh god I'm in love with a little girl" to "oh god I'm in love with an autist".

the questions are:
>what new sin will I replace the villain's sexual abuse with
>is shifting the conflict good enough

>>16224218
I guess...if you consider those compendiums only 3 books.

>>16224682
Do people actually talk like this?
I struggle to believe that this is anything other than a larp.

>>16218075

Who?

ok

So invent insta freeze/pause/clear resin of people that you can thaw later

health care goes so bad that most people are just frozen and thown out the back into huge piles.

What's a scifi/ fantasy book you've read that you were really excited for, only to be kind of... let down? Recently, or in the past.

I just finished The Poppy War. I really wanted to like it, based on the raving reviews I've heard. I was interested in it as much for the sake of research for my own writing (Asian terminology a.k.a. what the hell do you call the thing) as I was for the general premise. I even enjoyed the first half of it. But it slowly deteriorated into a feeling of, "that wasn't bad, it might have even been good, but I don't know if I like this" by the end. I can guess why; I think I just like stories with a protagonist I can root for, even morally grey ones, but I didn't feel that way here. I'm not sure if I want to continue and finish the series to see if it'll change my mind.

>>16224792
Are you from the future?

>>16224801
The Way of Kings.
Pretty much the same thing, fell for the hype and read it without really thinking twice about what anons said about it.
It felt like 3 books in one, and each was over-written to the point where I got bored of the pattern.
I ended up skipping Shallan and side stories entirely and found myself able to finish it. Combat sucked and people touted it as amazing. The characters were mostly shallow while people said they were deeper than anything they've read prior. The worldbuilding was straight up okay if a bit nonsensical at points. The magic systems mean nothing because I never felt that there was a mystery about them; imagine over-explaining the one thing that you are allowed to under-explain.
I still ended up giving it an average score since Kaladin's and Dalinar's stories were good enough.

>>16224801
Dune. The Lynch film was weirdly fun but I never cared for the show or the RTS game when I was a kid.
And I might have fully immersed myself in the first book, the epigraphs were a nice touch, but it was so poorly written, with dumb inner thoughts everywhere it took a lot of effort to finish it.

>>16220971
>Looking for some good science fantasy that isn't Planetary Romance or Dune
Read Book of the New Sun.

>>16224739
Yeah it’s how I text my budds, but aside from that.... chillin... chillin.. chill vibes

I’ve always adored early 20th century British children’s literature, what with its clever prose and comfy characters and setting. I wanted to use that in my own children’s novel. The story follows a young (around 7 years old) princess escaping her warring kingdom alongside a gallant old knight who serves as her protection during their trek to their destination, another kingdom to which the princess shall be kept safe. I wanted it to be read very similarly to Winnie the Pooh and Alice in wonderland, particular favorites of mine, being very comfy and wanting the reader to go on some adventure. I already have a chapter fleshed out in my mind; during their journey, the knight wakes up to find that his armor has gone from the place that he had put it the night before. The princess reveals that she hid them all over the forest that they had been sleeping within, saying that they have been walking for too long and she needed a break from the journey. The knight, tilting his head to the side in a loving manner towards the princess, gets up to find his armor, much to the princess’s frustration, who follows him as he searches and asks all sorts of questions about the trees and the forest. He finds a helmet tucked away in a hole, his shield wedged in between a dead tree, and his shining sword balanced on a stone above a wide pond. Eventually he finds all of the pieces, but by then the sun was too low in the sky for them to go on any journey on that day. Seeing as how there isn’t any real rush to reach their destination, the knight decides that the princess’s cunning plan had indeed worked, and he made sure to hide his armor every night afterwards.

>>16224698
What?

>>16224835
Are there any NIGGERS in wok?

>>16222240
The Wheel of Tugs.

okay /sffg/, I've spent the past hour mulling this over and thinking how I can change my villain's personality to remove the pedo subplot. All my ideas suck but here are a few that suck least

>Option 1: he's a sadistic, loki-esque prankster who sees fucking with people as "balancing the karmic scales" and a sacred duty
>Option 2: he's a born storyteller whose driving motive in life is to simply do whatever he thinks would make the best story, even if it hurts other people

>>16224880
All of them.

Any sci-fi works set in the past? Like the writer set them in the past to explore what if tech took a different route. Steampunk works too.

Does there exist a solarpunk fantasy story that isn't complete shit?

>>16225474
I’ll get back to you in a few months desu

Why is good hard sci-fi so hard to find? Is it just really hard to write? This and Dragon's Egg/Starquake are all I've liked so far from the genre.

>>16225474
>Solarpunk
>African/Asian Asthetics
>Social-Anarchism

What the fuck is it even trying to say?
All it needed was the renewable energy angle.
Whether it's not!Wakanda or Bicyclecore themed is irrelevant.

>>16225007
Both of those have potential, it's the execution and what you even want out of your story desu

>>16225474
Leftism is a mental illness.

>>16224801
Stranger in a Strange Land.
I thought it started off great, but the ending was just hippy astrology free love fuck buddy crap.
Maybe I'm just not getting it, I don't know. I'd appreciate other people who enjoyed it to share their thoughts.

>>16225578
obsessed and seething

>>16224735
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Why do so many people see "sffg" and interpret it as 'Writing advice general"? Nobody cares about your litrpg smut garbage.

>>16226315
This.
Fuck trannys
Jannys
Niggers
Kikes
Roasties
Broskies (jk haha)
Niggers

>>16225521
>What the fuck is it even trying to say?
white culture bad

>>16226315
>>16226384
Dangerously based

Is this series actually good or is it just a meme? I never see it even mentioned anywhere outside of /lit/. It seems like it's mostly just popular because it's hard to read and therefore easy to circlejerk over

>>16226857
It's good and also not hard to read.

>>16220558
CHAPTERS EIGHT TO TEN
Hahahahahahah, wew. I had been thinking I've been judging this by the wrong standards, but now I know for sure. I simply can't take anything of this seriously. Here's a proposed light novel title for it: Even Though I Was The Lowest Commoner, Through Determination I Became The World's Strongest! I didn't look at them much, but two similar existing titles that seem mildly relevant would be: From Commonplace to World's Strongest & I'm Standing On A Million Lives. Because of my silly ways, I've seen various media such as this. It reminds me of other self-published work as well. This is even more of a power fantasy revenge book than I thought it'd be. It's all so very absurd, ridiculous, and insane, though only on a relative scale. I'm certainly amused by it in any case.

> Tsiory reborn
He's already considered to be legendary founder champion level potential? This is progressing even more swiftly than I expected.

> Oyibo...RIP
Ever more fuel for the fire.

> attacking three others and Kellan
Tau continues to my exceed my expectations for stupidity, recklessness, and impulsivity, and impatience. Zuri intercedes and he just can't help himself. Maybe actions have less consequences then you'd think overall, relative to what is done anyway.

> a damned, cursed, dim-witted fool!
I don't if the author intends for the reader to take Tau seriously or not, because it doesn't matter to me, because I can't possibly do so.

> already a better swordsman than his father
and it seemed like he was supposed to be one of the best of the Lesser. What progress indeed.

> My father was a greater-noble
> cross-breed
Somewhat like the idea of making the lesser more as previously stated.

> You think birthright determines destiny. You're wrong
M E R I T O C R A C Y

> more Tau insanity
Better than Jayyed already.

|| > He would show them all
Before adjusting my standards, I didn't think he'd be able to keep up this pace of progress, but now there's no limit. Eventually fighting a full size dragon one on one? Sure, why not? Defeating hordes of the silver genociders alone? May as well! Going Dynasty Warriors or Xianxia levels of destruction on the Hedeni? Not a problem! The Queen's Melee is going to be hilariously silly, of that I have no doubt.
I also have to wonder if there's any chance that he dies or becomes the antagonist at some point now. Though, maybe the perspective wouldn't change.

> Isihogo training
I have doubt that's how training works. This is more like a leveling up through XP model than anything else really. Truly his mental fortitude is wondrous. Will Tau be the one to bring the cull down upon them? It seems likely to me. He almost took its power already.

> deep into territory held by the Omehi
I've been thinking from the beginning that this reminds me in ways of the invasion of the Iberian peninsula and the following Reconquista, though I don't know that much about it.

>>16227753
CONTINUED

> history books
So this is where I saw it.

> 200 years...no idea
Maybe they should have went somewhere less hostile during all this time.

> [dying] one last time wasn't special
> hold himself...together
Just when we think our intrepid protagonist is beyond hope...
> KNIFE FOREPLAY WITH ZURI WITH A TEASE OF ENERVATION!
> Begin teen angst and melodrama
Hahahaha, what is this sudden sex scene? Will HAVE SEX cure him of all his problems?

> They get you in the end
No so easy to defeat or do much with as you thought.

> The Rage of Dragons
and so their rage is explained.

Zuri seems to be as overpowered as Tau in her own way. I assume they will have to face off in the Queen's Melee.

> a reckoning for the things we've done
ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUNCES!? Say it ain't so! Tau shall overcome the very concept of causality itself through DETERMINATION!

>>16224130
You have failed to grasp the Absolute.

>>16225519
Good choices anon. Have you tried Watts? Blindsight and Echopraxia are particularly good.
I'm told Greg Egan is good - so I have a few of his works on my shelf.
And screw the haters, The Remembrance of Earth's Past was amazing.

>>16225578
True story though.

>>16226857
It's legitimately amazing anon. Have fun and research while reading it. Look up all the unfamiliar words and place names for insights. Wolfe is (was) the Grand Master of the lodge.

>>16222717
>well Malazan is all of the scale and graduer of LOTR but with none of the soul.

Not really. If LotR is a linguist's magnum opus then Malazan is an archeologist's.

>>16226857
It's good but most fantasy readers are children and it's not much fun so it won't get more broadly praised.

>>16224801
Something that annoys me when I hear people raving about modern fantasy works is it always boils down to "oh my god, these characters were instantly relatable" or something about how the hook is different from the established norm. You don't actually hear any tangible critique.

>>16228162
It's slow though.

>TQ
Besides the things I already have put out that I'm not proud of;
I've considered writing a more adult-oriented (not smut, just with an older audience) Power-Rangers/Sentai/Kamen Rider-esque story where they use memories as means of transformation triggers.
I haven't bothered with it because it'd be better as a show or comic book.

>>16226315
I wish I could say unironically, but I bet fa/tg/uys browse this general and think it's going to offer something for their campaigns that the general homebrew/worldbuilding threads have there. You can see a correlation of questions asked here and shit being discussed on /tg/ threads.

Otherwise it's just general BranSandrones watching a lecture, coming up with an idea, asking about it here, and then doing absolutely nothing with it.

how long do amazon/goodreads reviews take to actually show up?

>>16225519
>have a basic understanding of science and technology
>have good plot ideas
>know how to write
Pick two.
Try Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge. Culture series has something of the hard scifi feel, even though it's obviously very soft.

Any fantasy with the writing quality of R Scott Bakker but without the grimderp?

>>16225614
Yeah, I got the same vibe from it. I am currently at the part where they are pretending to be magicians and it has nothing of that hilarious earth/mars press conference anymore.

I finally managed to find a way to enjoy dune.... if you read it as an audio book and image everything as a b movie it becomes enjoyable. You can ignore the bad and cheesy lines easily, the subpar plot, and the one tone characters more easily. Now will be able to say I finished it.

I have failed you /sci/ i only manged about 2 book a month till now and I have stalled on this one for the whole month. I will never beat the challenge at this rate....

I just read tony daniels "A dry, quiet war" and i really enjoyed it, anyone know of other scifi stories i would like? I've read old mans war and i liked that too

>>16229860
>/sci/

>>16217966
>I can’t because I actually have made progress on them. Got a notebook full of ideas, maps, characters, plot points, etc. only 7000 words so far into actually writing it but I’m getting there.
Worldbuilding isn’t progress. You’re just spinning your wheels convincing yourself you’re being productive. After you’ve laid some basic ideas down, write the beginning and a couple scenes, and then start structuring from there.

>>16218210
Russia and Poland.

>>16217266
>>Tell us all about your shit ideas
They're shit

>why you haven't made any progress on them
Because thinking of a neat premise or setting or image is quick and easy. But structuring an actual story with characters and motivation and action is beyond my ken.

>>16229975
*/sffg/
This is what I get for being a filthy multi board poster.

>>16217266
I recently re-read "The Left Hand of Darkness" and confronted with the masterful worldbuilding I'm left fully aware of my pathetic lack of talent.

How do you overcome this feeling of worthlessness after reading something from one of the genre masters?

>>16217658
just stop writing

>>16217658
Swimming pool because you could actually see it, and it would float around.

>>16225474
>community
>anarchism
uh....

/5eg/, be honest with me. In a story where a bunch of people wind up in a fantasy world with powers, how lame and generic is it to have a character whose only motivation is "kid, we're living in a world where being a god is a viable life goal. Why would we ever want to leave?"

>>16230491
No type A personalities allowed in my books ty

>>16230491

>/sffg/
fuck

>>16221542

>>16228954
Whenever the person posts them.

i think frank frazetta sucks

>>16230985
>i think frank frazetta sucks

>>16230975
Incorrect. Takes a few days to show up but I suppose it's subjective per title.

I want to write a screenplay about an alien first contact, but I can't come up with anything original

>>16231215
Then make Space Gremlins

>>16230095
Why don't you feel inspired? "Gee, one day I'll be producing stuff like this!"

>>16224735
>>16226157

>>16228206
>slow
>You got niggas reading 10s of books of WoT
>BotNS wraps up the story in 5 books in the 300 page range.
Maybe you're slow nigga

Reminder: We need more stuff like pic related and less shit like Shallan chapters.

>>16231883
Okay but what about all that, but it's on a colony ship that got lost in deepdeepdeepspace

>>16228140
Greg Egan is great, but you have to be somewhat on the spectrum to fully appreciate it

>>16231891
No

>>16224130
*for a reason*

>>16231904
Great "Ideas-guy", not a great wordsmith IMO

>>16231963
Okay okay but what about all that, but it's The Truman Show and the Truman Show is inside the head of John Malkovich

>>16228140
Serious question: what’s it like reading literature by Asians? I’ve never had, but I heard they’re on level. Is it a different vibe? I heard they possess no souls? What’s up with that?
Someone please redpill me on Asians.

>>16232088
The Chinese have a history of being conquered and raped in to the dirt over and over and over again and now they're bugpeople who think making animals suffer makes the meat tastes better. Whether they're soulless or not depends on your definition of a soul

How come there aren't any Daniel Black knockoffs? Every self published author and their mother (Harmon Cooper, Eric Vall, Logan Jacobs among others) are copying the other successful series. Why isn't anyone copying magical engineering? Are they too much of brainlets to utilizes it properly? How come Daniel Black is the only series I saw that actually did it well?

>>16232088
Chink women are more soulless than western thots. Think ice queen. Chink men have been beaten down so much that they are effectively soulless, and their literary works reflect that. Their characters have zero morals, and would rape and kill to get ahead.
The chinks that have grown up in the western world has spent enough time that they can mimic morals, but don't let that fool you, it's all an act.

>>16228439
>>16230491
Amazing.
Worst edition fag manages to ask a shit question.

Books to read after playing Dark Souls 3?

>>16232815
Zothique

>>16232815
Bakker

>>16232352
Why would you want E William Brown book knockoffs? If they follow him it's probably behind paywalls too.

>>16229993
>Worldbuilding isn’t progress.

Bullshit. Worldbuilding is the only progress that happens when writing sci-fi/fantasy. The mechanics of the text of the story is nothing more than the inevitable fruit that follows the flower that blooms from the seed of worldbuilding, as it were. Everyone knows that worldbuilding is the most important thing we can do as writers. It's also the most fun. I mean, isn't writing the text kind of boring after having the hot metal and magic of your own world's creation flow through your brains and hands? Chapterwriting is boring as fuck to me. Yes, I wish I could do nothing more than build new worlds all day, but alas, that can't happen. You know, I'm actually concerned about this new trend that seems to disparage worldbuilding. You realize that good worldbuilding is how you win a Nebula award, don't you?

>>16232926
You almost had me.

>>16232932
I'm afraid that you lack imagination.

Well, I finally did it. Will all the Mieville spamming, I started reading Perdido Street Station out of curiosity.
So far (150 pgs), the plot has gone nowhere, which I guess is a side effect of Victorian lit, but it reads like a shitty Dickens pastiche of SJW crap with weird fantasy shit. I get it bruv, grimy buildings, rusty bridges, overcast sky, muddy steets and rubbish all over. No need to remind me of this imagery every 5 pages, Jesus Christ. And the curses. I'll take "Storm it!" any day of the week before God, Jabber, 'Stail. Why would an alternative world have the expression "to wash one's hands" like fucking Poncius Pilate?
And this is not to mention some pretty questionable descriptions, like "intense grey salmon color". What the fuck does that mean. I've never read "malarial" as an adjective, makes less sense if there's not actual malaria going on. Seems like the trick, which makes the prose wildly inaccurate, is to just layer a few adjectives, even if contradictory (that's the poetry bruv), and boom, GREAT WRITING™

>>16233071
Hello, based department?

>>16233384
>>16233384
>>16233384

get just about any ebook you want here faggots

>>16233398
Thanks for the viruses bro

>all these memes about GRI being the /sffg/ triforce

fucking ridiculous, and so i propose PCE instead: polygamy, cuckoldry, emasculation

those three are present in 90% of the garbage books you guys recommend here, while GRI barely clocks in at 30%

>>16233416
>windows user detected

Picked up this and the two sequels recently, been having a good time.

Is there anything else out there where the main protagonist’s a necromancer/necrophile?

>>16233435
Gideon the Ninth

>>16233435
He's not really a necromancer, but 'Jack Faust' by Michael Swanwick is a really good interpretation inspired by the classic Goethe work. I just got it at #bookz @ UNDERNET

>>16233435
a quick search at the pirate bay shows some items that might interest you

pic related

>>16233463
install some add block

>>16233483
ok i will if you help me bump this super cool thread

>>16233384
>>16233384
>>16233384

I like fantasy themes but is it odd, that I really only enjoy fantasy novels when the cast of characters is limited?

If there's over like, three to four characters then I'm a little overwhelmed.

>>16233463
Thank you for these suggestions but, I am a fucker and don't have an e-reader/reading text off screens fucks with my vision.

I'll check into the titles though

>>16233463
tpb should be your last resort when looking for books. if you can find it on tpb you can find it anywhere else

>>16233574
>if you can find it on tpb you can find it anywhere else

Tell me more about these 'anywhere elses'

and what's wrong with p2p filesharing? it was once hailed as the future of networking, but then the forces of evil stepped in to make the internet even fucking gayer and hide the pure unstoppable awesome of p2p from the normie NPC masses. We must remind them of this unstoppable technology. If not us, then who?

>>16233616
literally a stickied post linking to alternative download options
literally a crosslinked thread ITT that describes an alternative method of finding books to pirate
do any amount of lurking, newfag

>>16233648
I was hoping you knew something I did not. I was wrong.

>>16233648
I am the author of the #bookz thread as well, faggot

>>16233616

>>16233658
i don't believe in spoonfeeding especially when download methods are discussed frequently enough in these threads. irc and mobi are about the best you get anyhow, better than bibliotik imo
when in doubt, lurk

>>16233071
I agree Perdido is a mess, but The City and The City is excellent.

>>16217266
I've been watching anime and reading some light novels and i fucking hated almost every isekai,even if i like the concept.
I want to write one myself;i don't even want to publish it,i just want to make a story where the protagonist has a reason for being thrown in a fantasy world,not just because he died,or worked hard in his life. Where the protagonist gets his powers for a reason,not as an apology from god for killing him by mistake. I want to make a journey inside the new world that isn't killing the demon lord or just fooling around. I want to create my own magic,my own animals,transportation methods,etc.
I also wanted to put some romance in it but i don't know how to execute it,i've never been in love or had a girlfriend :(.

>>16233886
oh hey china

>>16217419
Too much Shallan maybe. Not enough Kaladin moody-kino and Dragonball-kino.

I want to give one of those borderline (or outright) pornographic fantasy harem novels I’ve heard so much about. Where do I start?

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I will anyway

Could anyone recommend me a scifi or fantasy novel that is just about travelling and seeing the world? No epic story, no life or death narrative, just 2-5 characters who travel a world for the hell of it, or to find something. Would prefer if the world was more unique and interesting rather than your standard medieval europe / futuristic humanity. Something exactly like the Book of the new sun except much easier to digest.

Also what are some good steampunk novels.

>>16234214
Tales of the Ketty Jay is the only steampunk series I've read and it was fun.

>>16234214
> Something exactly like the Book of the new sun except much easier to digest.
Dying Earth

>>16234214
Ringworld

>>16234243
Chris Wooding is a questionable author, haven't read Ketty Jay but Ember Blade was trash.

>only steampunk series I've read
That's unfortunate. Check out pic related for good steampunk. It's unironically the best fantasy series of the last 10-15 years and a rare gem in the midst of the shit heap that is modern fantasy. It reads like it was written in the 50's, only steampunk instead of atomicpunk.

>>16234435
Ain't he a simp chasing his gf the whole book? And he gets cucked at the end from what I've heard.

>>16234435
I have heard of this before but it never seemed like steampunk to me, how steampunk is it

>>16227757
I appreciate your posts.

>>16217266
>writefag edition
I’ve had an idea about a halfway house for supernatural creatures trying to adjust to society for a while now but I’m just not that good of a writer. Maybe if I make it a young adult thing. That’s where the money is anyway.

>>16234619
Very, it's not apparent right at the beginning but it grows into it.

>>16234982
>That’s where the money is anyway.
It really isn't. Publishers take most of that dosh. If it's a really popular YA series, they'll acquire the rights outright and subcontract it to different authors for pennies.

The real money these days is in building a fanbase by catering to a particular niche and milking them through Patreon.

I guarantee that the writer of a web serial Wandering Inn out earns most established SFF authors with the exception of the heavyweights like Sanderson and grum.

Why does she look like a coked up whore?

>>16234210
Please respond. I just finished Tarnsman of Gor and don’t want to have to wait another ten books for it to get really sadomasochistic.

books about magical card games?

>>16221542
Who did Severian rape?

>>16235358
jolenta, duh

>>16235403
It's been awhile since I read it but I thought they just fucked in the boat?

>>16235358
ur mom lol

>>16226857
It's great. I had to search up a lot of words as I was reading it but other than that it's not a difficult read once you get in a few chapters. The 3rd book is my favorite out of the whole series and has a lot of great moments.

>>16235426
In URth he says something like, "yeah I probably raped her, but she wanted it"

>>16217609
You could have SJWs copyright striking and claiming all names are neocolonial barbarism so everything has to be brandless.

>>16235507
Oh I see, I haven't read Urth.

>>16217609

With how many wannabe writers there are on here there should be a competition to write a short story around a certain theme and whoever does best is crowned king of /sffg/

>>16236034
It would come down to whoever was more popular among the Disctards

>>16236103
I'd like to think that people on here are rational and wont cave to peer pressure.

>>16236173
I'd think this was funny if the thought that people as naive as this exist didn't just depress me.

>>16235249
I mean the women in arand's work aren't far removed from that profession.
None of them really do anything but suck of the MC.

>>16235426
So if she wanted it it wasn't rape.

>>16222240
Read more Tolkien.

Then read The Gormenghast Trilogy or Book of the New Sun.

>>16235426
Jolenta is not exactly in a position to consent. She's literally decaying while stiil alive and dies shortly after. Later it also turns out Severian thought she and Dorcas were having sex and he was FROTHINGLY jealous

Always keep in mind Severian is a trash person and is deliberately playing down the bad or disturbing things he has done. The one exception is when he ruminates for a few chapters about not saving Little Severian's parents from the zoanthrops, and even then when the kid asks him point blank if he did everything he could he lies. Another doozy from Sword is that it turns out like, half his bags are made from human skin and he just neglected mentioning it. He even initially says the one he keeps the Claw on is from "doe skin" and was made by Dorcas, and later walks it back and says it's human skin in a throwaway line

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>>16236333
>"doe skin"
I think that's the material of the Terminus Est's hilt, not the bags, or maybe it's both.

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Another day, another thread

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>>16236333
Your reading if the book is retarded. Not that what you are saying doesn't have any merit, its just that there are many layers that go deeper and deeper than that. If you stop where you did New Sun is a worse book than it already is. Which is something I see all the time with it, people read it in a way as if they want to read a bad book, rather than giving it the benefit of the doubt and letting it blow their mind.

>>16236388
>worse book than it actually is

is what I meant.

>>16236388
I'm not sure how you read that into my post. I LIKE BotNS and if anything meant that as praise of Wolfe's writing skills. Severian constantly changing details about how the events of the previous books happened, in ways that usually don't put him in a good light (how many times does he flip flop between "oh, I couldn't possibly have saved Thecla, that was completely unworkable" and "I should have saved Thecla, I easily could have" and whether he had sex with her or not, just for starters) is a pretty strong recurring element

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Try the Self Published chart in the OP. It's full of degeneracy trash.

>>16235249
Would buy the book based on this cover if I needed something to read for a plane flight.

>>16236034
I submitted a story to The Bard once when a poster advertised it here. I didn't get the nod but it was fun to be part of something and get some feedback. I think The Bard collapsed after the first issue. Anyone else remember that?