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16219994 No.16219994 [Reply] [Original]

What did Homer mean by this?

>> No.16220008

>it's another "and darkness fell over his eyes" episode
>it's another "and his armour clattered around him" episode
>it's another repetition of the long speech you just read to another character episode

>> No.16220013

>>16220008
all of these are sick
>not imagining yourself as a rhapsod while repeating it to catch your breathe for the next epic segment

>> No.16220059

>>16220013
I read a prose translation so it felt like reading an autistic fantasy story. I enjoyed what wasn't repeated a lot though

>> No.16220071

>>16220059
>I read a prose translation
Sorry anon

>> No.16220135
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16220135

>>16220059
>I read a prose translation

>> No.16220876

>>16219994

It's about mortality and difference between men and gods, bruh

>> No.16220916

>>16219994
it's explained in the introduction
dumbass

>> No.16221631

>>16220876
Dimwit

>> No.16222191

μῆνιν ἄειδε θεὰ Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος
οὐλομένην, ἣ μυρί᾽ Ἀχαιοῖς ἄλγε᾽ ἔθηκε,
πολλὰς δ᾽ ἰφθίμους ψυχὰς Ἄϊδι προΐαψεν
ἡρώων, αὐτοὺς δὲ ἑλώρια τεῦχε κύνεσσιν
οἰωνοῖσί τε πᾶσι, Διὸς δ᾽ ἐτελείετο βουλή,
ἐξ οὗ δὴ τὰ πρῶτα διαστήτην ἐρίσαντε
Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν καὶ δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς.

read what it literally says and look deeper into the poetry

>> No.16222201

>>16220135
>>16220071
Is it not literally meant to be read as prose? Isn't the ancient greek version basically prose?

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>>16222201

>> No.16222226

got a copy of S.O Andrews translation, is it super hard to read or am i just retarded? i keep getting thrown off by the fuckin yoda prose. downloaded the fagles version and from my quick peak it came across as alot more readable

>> No.16222272

>>16219994
Nobody knows the original book is lost and all the modern day translations are fake

>> No.16222274

>>16222226
thats how iliad actually is, its grug yoda talk to anyone who was not sung iliad by their father since birth

>> No.16222288

>>16222201
It's an epic

>> No.16222304

>>16222226
who the fuck is andrews you fucking cretin? maybe get a good translation next time

>> No.16222318

>>16222304
i dont know it was 4$ at the bookshop bro u heard of a shop bro u ever go outside bro

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>>16222274
>to anyone who was not sung iliad by their father since birth
a fate worse than death

>> No.16222362

>>16222341
and yet we are here, together, at the same place.

>> No.16222374
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16222374

>What did Homer mean by this?
Life is short, start with the Greeks

>> No.16222392

>>16222201
Not even close. Wow. Anon, it is literally from whence we DERIVE our idea of "epic poem" and all constituent craft elements; it is at the bottom of our idea of "poem," alongside Job and the Psalms.

>> No.16222403

>>16220008
>>it's another "and darkness fell over his eyes" episode
but that's such a poetic image, i always loved reading that

>> No.16222438

>>16222403
or "he fell like a tree"

>> No.16222449

>>16222374
Indeed, life is too short to read The Iliad in prose.

>> No.16222610

>>16222201
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0mkt6Z3I0

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>>16220008
>>it's another repetition of the long speech you just read to another character episode
Unironically why would he do this.

>> No.16222632

>>16222610
>eegogo reegoo babeebee boobee doodada deedee
literal gibberish, wtf was homer thinking

>> No.16222676

>>16222632
>main character's name isn't Simon
what a fucking cunt, I'd love to whack him a proper one

>> No.16222790

>>16222632
>wtf was homer thinking
eegogo reegoo babeebee boobee doodada deedee

>> No.16222797

>>16222610
god that hexameter makes my dick hard

>> No.16222815

>>16222201
>Isn't the ancient greek version basically prose?

bitch why do you think there are so many repetitions?

>> No.16222832

>>16222403
winged words anon

>> No.16224265

>>16222191
Love there are helenists here χαίρε :)

>> No.16224283

>>16222790
Based dactys and spondees

>> No.16224285

>>16222201
Anon, I am genuinely concerned after reading this post. Also, stuff is repeated a lot because it helps with memorization, and there's no reason to try and come up with a new description to fit the poetic meter

>> No.16224320

Read Porphyry and Iamblichus
There are mystical secrets hidden within

>> No.16224381

>>16220008
>it's another "and darkness fell over his eyes" episode
The little snippets of the soldiers lives were the best part.

>> No.16224907

>>16222318
you indignant little cretin a pox on you and damn your cretinous ways

>> No.16226243

>>16222374
/thread