/lit/ - Literature

the west has been degenerate for at least two centuries and its only salvation is total conversion to islam

>>16181186
>What was Nabokov thinking when he wrote Lolita?

”i’m gonna make a shitload of money and have brainlets seething for all eternity”

>>16181186
One has artistic value.
The other is a degeneracy for degeneracy's sake

Lolita is really critical of peodos tho.
And the prose is amazing.

>>16181186
Wait wait wait, there's somebody named "Maimouna", for serious? And this person apparently happens to be _black_?

Holy cow.

>>16181245
lolita is critical of paedos but theres enough cunnyprose scattered throughout his corpus that i cant believe nabokov didnt dig it at least somewhat

>>16181258
absolutely based

>>16181194
Islam literally allows pedophilia

Christianity is the only abrahamic religion that frowns upon it.

>>16181242
The second condemns both islam and american sexualization though

How many child actors did Nabokov hired to write Lolita?

>>16181378
800 girls auditioned for the Kubrick film that Nabokov wrote the original screenplay of and liked when it was finished

>>16181360
haha. that star of david style implying two triagles overlapping makes it look vaguely celtic or norse.

>>16181397
Hm, so he is a pedo too.

>>16181413
if you listen to interviews with the director they specifically hired a psychologist for every scene to make sure the actors were treated well during filming and there were long talks with everyone involved including parents. you just assume it's one of those child pageant shows but it handles the subject sophisticatedly

>>16181365
Franchement basé

>>16181194

Muhammed, the alleged 'perfect man' whom all must see as an example, literally raped an 11 year old girl you fucking retard.

>>16181365
objectifié* not objectivé
you'd only watch it if you're a pedo, which is most french men

Both Lolita and this movie are very clearly critical of pedophilia/sexualization of young girls. You have to be an absolute brainlet to get mad about this. If you want to get mad, get mad at gangster rap and social media teaching young girls to behave like sluts in return for attention.

>>16181488
raping girls is not a sin.

>>16181360
Wasn't Mary twelve when she conceived Jesus?

>>16181494
>il ne connait pas l'objectivation

>>16181500

No. There certainly isn't anything in the Bible that says so.

>>16181508
Kek what a brainlet

>>16181365
The marketing was the issue, not the content of the film.

>>16181242
No, Lolita celebrates degeneracy. Mignonnes condemns it.

What's stopping the education system from teaching young girls about consent? This idea that children are retards is very damaging to society.

The documentary is doing exactly what pornographers used to do when it was rightly censored, which is pretend to be against what they're showing the audience.

>>16181555
Fuck consent. Let's teach them about chastity and marriage and then maybe they can actually live meaningful lives instead of riding the cock carousel until they realize they're getting old, then kill themselves.

>>16181194
No

>>16181555
The problem is that the adults are retards whose best chance of human contact on an equal footing is to find someone as stunted as they are. It's a very rare adult who can form meaningful consent to anything. The idea people who are coming out of generations of grade inflation, credit crises, obesity, and legalised drug addiction for their ennui should be allowed teach children anything is abhorrent.
>>16181186
He was thinking of teaching a capitive monkey to draw as an exercise in creativity only to discover it draws cage bars.

How long untill radical left stops pushing this retarded toxic agenda

>>16181638
Until nothing remains of society.

Seethe cope niggers

>>16181186
> didn't even watch the movie or even read a decent review in order to realize that Cuties is actually against the oversexualization of minors
Never going to make it. That being said, I hate Netflix.

>>16181638
Pedophilia is trad; "sexualities" and ages of consent are modern constructions you are spooked to like a moralfag, on the same level as those libs you despise...

>>16181365
Can some baguette please translate the image?

>>16181764
It's a very beautiful coming-of-age film about growing up from being a child to a teenager (some would say an adult in certain societies where girls become women after their first period). It's also a movie about the influence of one's roots and consumerist society's where women's bodies are objectified and sexualized. far from being immoral, the movie succeeds in being completely amoral, putting the spotlight on important questions without spoon-feeding the audience answers (thereby opening a dialogue). The mise en scene is remarkable, the montages are often clever and even thought the effects are sometimes excessive or too numerous, it can be chalked up to a desire to make cinema for the director's first film which is still very balanced and very elegant in it's portrayal of children's bodies, filmed from up close, in scenes and poses that are sometimes more than suggestive, without ever being exploitative.

>>16181638
nobody on the "radical left" pushes this except for autistic fr*nchmen

>>16181815
it's from a professional critic who rated it 4.5 out of 5 stars by the way

>>16181701
>being attracted to prepubescents
ewww

>>16181701
Hypothesis:
Maybe the reason that men are attracted to such young girls is because men are attracted to youth, and it's like a hyperstimulus even though it's unnatural, and didn't need to get selected against because cavemen were somehow less degenerate than people today.

>>16181412
>two triangles overlapping
You couldn't think to use the word "knotwork"?

>>16181865
Pubescence starts at 13-14, right where the chart peaks

>>16181885
You think that looks like a knotwork of triangles?

>>16181907
Usually starts earlier than that for girls.

>>16181815
thx. Doesn't sound like my kind of thing, but thx for translating.

>>16181752
>We use to do a thing therefore it's trad.
I wish I could send you a wasp nest via mail. Weak man prey on children, weaker man justify it

>>16182036
>Prey
It's called love, you soulless bugman, not that you'd understand anything of that.

>>16181907
12 and 18

>>16181186
Why are the french so obsessed with wanting to fuck underage kids? All their intellectuals signed a document 60 years ago saying they should be allowed to fuck kids

>>16181701
Natural fallacy, midwit

>>16182210
>12
anon....

>>16182235
Back when the left was based. No but seriously , why should anyone go to prison for having sex anyways?

>>16181907
0-6 ugly
7-12 cute loli
13-15 prime
16-20 decent

honest truth is that the only reason pedophilia is so taboo is because religious culture treats sex as a special sacred thing
if it weren't the case then we would have the death penalty for people who give children cigarettes, which will fuck up their life in the long run more than touching their willy ever will

>>16181907
>starts wearing makeup at 11
cringe

>>16182517
>Bhutan is entirely secular and areligious

>>16181186
One of them doesn't include actually children being all sexual and shit. If it's in writing, you can fist as many 4 year old as you'd like and no one should give a shit.

>>16182560
maybe i should have specified i was talking in a western/american context and mostly about christianity
i don't know how it works elsewhere

>>16182517
pedophilia is taboo because women don't want the competition.

it literally is just made to trick you

>>16181701
hi pedo

>>16182475
You're right, jail is a waste, coomers and fags should get the rope.

>>16182408
>he thinks nature is somehow a fallacy

>>16182625
SHE WAS ONLY 17 YOU SICK FUCK!

>>16181365
Based frenchoids

>>16182636
if you cant fuck women in youre own age range youre just a loser

>>16181870
>feeling attracted to girls in their prime is unnatural
I will tell you what's unnatural, it's feeling attracted to old hags

>>16182648
im sure Jimmy Page and David Bowie and company couldn't get girls their own age

>>16182648
tell that to the teenage girls constantly lusting over mature chads and daddy kink shit

>>16182672
i mean like 22yo guys that date hs freshmen... i knew a couple of those guys and they suck

>>16182690
used to know a junior girl that was dating a 23 year old guy
in retrospect i'm surprised nobody really seemed to care about it

>>16181186
Lolita is a beautifully written, and tragic story about a girl who has been sexually abused since the age of 11, who's circumstances have robbed her of a childhood and led to her being destitute 17 . Whatever that is a movie about twerking 11 year olds which is intentionally subversive and that would lose most substance if it were about twerking 21 year olds

>>16182690
>they suck
Why?

>>16181186
he was thinking about sad monkeys

SHE WAS ONLY 17 AND 364 DAYS, YOU SICK FUCK

>>16182743
>NPC brain dial-up sounds

>>16182743
drive around in their moms car and buy 4lokos for minors... its appealing from a 16 year olds perspective i guess but its far from trad

The "cuties" controversy was entirely manufactured by Netflix to get twitter fags mad and gain exposure. They intentionally changed the poster to sexualize minors and generate controversy about what would otherwise be an under-the-radar movie

>>16182807
that sounds like a risky plan to go with for very little reward

>>16182763
It's not traditional but if high school girls have learned how to commoditize their pussies it's a bit rich to blame the dude for buying what she is selling.

>>16182610
This.

>>16182842
>very little reward
Now a shitty french movie made by a black woman is super famous and everyone is talking about it, nothing changed for worse. You see, those who pay netflix will continue to pay it, those who didn't pay too, nothing changed, nothing, it only gave more attention to a bad movie, with those ugly lolis, holy shit.

>>16181837
There are a lot of virped/map sympathizers on the far-left. It's the logical end-point of viewing sexuality as an inherent unchangeable nature of your being. Which is the mainstream discourse today.

>>16181907
She obviously peaked at 20 tho. Why is this goddamn site filled with sexual deviants?

>>16182530
That's literally the year she peaked. Good for her, knowing when to start slutting it up before she's past her prime, and just a usually husk of a viable baby maker.

>>16184017
She had crashed into the wall by 20. She peaks 11-13.

>>16181499
Then what is?

>>16184017
They all need somewhere to go.

>>16184173
Not properly compensating the man who owns her for using his property afterwards.

>>16181534
Good point, most people who condemned it for being on Netflix had not watched it.

>>16181701
Well it makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint to be attracted to girls as soon as they enter puberty (first menstuation) since that way you maximize the chance and number of offspring. If you were attracted to 40 year old woman you would be basically spending resources in vain, so your genes wouldnt pass. But I think aoc of 16 is reasonable enough today

>>16181638
/tv/ isn't the radical left, dumbshit

>>16184287
This is the equivalent of, Rightest think nothing is a problem and if you bring attention to it, you must be a libtard.

the content of this thread is so dogshit

>>16184475
then try rectifying it faggot

>>16181186
Because he couldn't help expressing in his writing the allure of nymphets as can't I

>>16184501
Based. Why are they so cute bros?

>>16181638
More far right wingers are pedos than "radical left"

>>16184612
Cool story bro.

>>16184355
>Well it makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint to be attracted to girls as soon as they enter puberty (first menstuation) since that way you maximize the chance and number of offspring
but then you also maximize is the probability of the mother dying during labor

>>16184845
Which is why childbirth was so dangerous historically. Most men were fucking 12-14 year olds.