/lit/ - Literature

first for Sansa

>>16173356
any fantasy where le extremely lazy copy of christian church isn't a le evil catholic stereotype and is actually based and a force for good?

>>16173356
Sanderson comes up with the dorkiest titles.

>tfw having to spend the entire few days posting in a Shallan thread

>>16173367
Not even fantasy can be that unrealistic

>>16173374
Alright shandersonfags tell me what the fuck is up with these Shallan chapters I keep hearing about or I'll literally buy one of his books to find out.

>>16173386
>Sanderfag's first attempt at writing a complicated character

The cover art for Stormlight just gets worse and worse. Whelan used to be pretty reliable.

>>16173386
It's explained in nearly every thread - Sanderson attempts to write a witty book-loving girl, but lacking wit himself ends up writing a painfully overt mary sue. She gets markedly worse in every book, so to get the true experience you'd have to read more than 1.2 million poorly chosen words.

>>16173407
>>16173411
Fuck, I've never been funny and smart with words. Is this what would happen if I tried to write a witty character?

>>16173439
Try to draw a cat and let's see how it looks

>>16173439
you just need to make them quippy like a Marvel character, it's not too difficult

>>16173386
Basically this >>16173407. Shallan primarily exists to take photos with her eyeballs and for the series to explore/explain "the cognitive realm", a kind of collective unconscious that is used in his magic system among other things. Because of this it is only right that she be a very "psychological" character. So apart from being poorly written, and painfully unwitty, her chapters also put the breaks on whatever little forward momentum is going on elsewhere in the book.

I just stayed up all night finishing Harrow the Ninth. Gideon's return to the narrative, though she never really left as it turns out, was surprisingly hype for me. Also that part where two liches made out with God, and then blew up God. What a book.

>>16173356
Obviously Min, the only tolerable one.
>pic rel.

>>16173585
Err, I meant Min, best girl.
>pic rel.

What is everyone writing/working on?

I'm doing an abridgement of Wheel of Time. Just wrapped up combining books 09-11 last weekend.

I am now starting an overview of the Sanderson books. They will be quite a different experience I think. Will need more restructuring/additive work rather than just trimming off fluff.

>>16173597
Lmao, the casting is a total disaster.

>>16173386
She's Sanderson's idea of a "witty," or sassy woman. I don't think he has actually met a woman he ever found intelligent or funny, so this is what he wrote.
>possibly redpilled, but he's not that self aware

>>16173356
I want to fuck a spider.

>>16173585
>>16173597
kek, Min is apparently an Asian milf.

And it's Siuan Sanche on the left. They either used a very old picture or made liberal use of photoshop on Siuan's actress, since she's 52 irl. Look up Sophie Okonedo. She is going to look older, like much older on screen.

They've fucked everything up in the name of diversity before they've even begun shooting, it's hilarious. Don't know why anyone expected otherwise when the creator is a fucking former Survivor contestant.

>>16173621
>"blarg"

>>16173356
any fantasy book about great houses and their conflicts and their giant armies?

>>16173692
That's sort of GRRM's whole bag with A Song of Ice and Fire, if you don't mind it never being finished.

>>16173602
Sounds fun. I'm finishing Dracula and will read Blood Song next. Not working on anything but I was thinking about rereading WoT soon, it's been 3-4 years

>>16173721
Remember the Blood Song mantra anon. Do not read past book 1.

>>16173721
Wait on your reread til I finish mate. Also, can confirm other anon. Bloodsong 2 and 3 are trash, read only #1.

>>16173621
I mean, it isn't just his women who is this overly witty,,,
He obviously watched too much Buffy the Vampire Slayer and got his brain ruined forever

>>16173719
Shame, i actually wanted to read ASOIAF until i found out that that fat piece of shit would ever finish it

>>16173755
>>16173733
Yep, that's the plan. And sure, I can wait, still have a few books I'd like to check out first.

>>16173597
Surely they're not going to go with the Rand/Min romantic relationship after casting a MILF to play Min.
Imagine seeing something like pic related >>16173602 on screen, how awkward it would look with Rand and his Asian cougar gf sitting on his lap.
Jesus, what a shitshow.

>>16173759
We might get one more book but at the rate he writes (or doesn't, as it were) no way we get the last one before he dies.

>>16173797
i know, fuck those breainlits who need to watch something instead of reading it.

>>16173621
>>16173756
Yeah, that reads like bad Whedonspeak. I was just about to ask whether it's representative of all his dialogue.
I can't imagine reading a 1000-page book's worth of that without wanting to kill myself.

Did the Wheel of Time twitter remove pictures of the new cast they announced? I see the announcements but not the pictures anymore. Lol, the backlash must have gotten to them.

>>16173356
I'd like a book recommendation on an AI that becomes increasingly intelligent to the point it surpassed the normal human mind by many magnitudes.

Oh, it already did.

>>16173900
same about the AI but it takes over a ship and wants to wipe out the human race
something like systemshock

Just finished the claw of the conciliator.....can someone explain to me what the fuck happened? Why this hack must write so confusedly? The androgynous was really the autarch? So why is there this war if vodalus and the autarch are allies? There are so many bullshits lol please no spoiler

>>16173900
Murderbot Diaries is something like that.

>>16173900
Based schizo poster.

>>16173900
metamorphosis of prime intellect

>>16173692
Tad Williams's Shadowmarch series. Four LotR sized huge ass books but a genuinely epic ending.

>>16173862
No, I wouldn't say is ALL his dialogue
But a lot his characters come from the same template, or suddenly takes in on in certain situations (which is probably the worst, when it feels out of place in the context)
And I really do like his books
But that kinda of dialogue could be fine in moderation, but please, Sanderson show some restraint, "wit" looses all it's impact when everyone is witty, are they making light of the situations they are in? not really, it's just their natural speech pattern


I think, I first figured out this while reading Mistborn (which, as I said, I do in fact like)
And the little orphan girl which has been pretty traumatized, not really good with people, some serious social anxiety thing going on
-went to infiltrate the party as noble
And suddenly she spoke (more than a few words), for the first time in the book,
and it was all kinds of sass and quips, kinda rude. Even if she in her own head admitted to being terrified by the situation

Here I though: Oh! She's happens to be a good actor, and is just putting on charade, acting it up, so they won't realize there really is nothing underneath. I can relate to that.
But then... It wasn't so.
I finished the series, and she kept talking like that from start to finish. It wasn't a ruse or an act. As she eventually got familiar and close to people, she kept talking the same "witty"(witty really isn't the right word here, but I'm at a loss) -way
So fucking weird.
Because she supposedly started out as a tiny scared little thing.

In the case of the new Mistborn books, were the characters are adults, which helps a lot, the worst offender of this is probably Wayne.
But here it isn't weird, because he's a confident clownman/trickster-something deputy, I get it, that's his thing, and it doesn't feel out of place
Probably a good idea for him to not have the main character be a girl, ever again. I like the autistic woman, but you can tell with her sister, Sanderson can't hold the quips back.

>>16173356
>why is it Shallan
3 waifu in one
>cute pet too

>>16173367
I want some Catholic fantasy that isn't just LotR as well.

>>16173384
Wash your fedora, fat.

>>16173356
I hope women do something amazing this time

>>16173356
any books that take place in a fantasy 19th century-esque setting (not the real world)?

>>16173356
I'm in love with Shallan

thank you sanderson for being the best fantasy writter of XXI century

>>16173585
casting disasters aside based min chad

>>16174197
Watch your kids, bootlicker

>>16174385
At least anon has kids while you don't.

>>16174391
Some people aren't meant to be good fathers; not everyone realises that. At least I don't breed kids that'll get dicked by a priest on the regular.

>>16174391
>at least my kids get raped by my priest, unlike your with your non-existent unmolested kids

woah, amazing comeback bro

>>16173356
How far are you into that story you’re writing, /sffg/?
>spent a year worldbuilding, outlining various plots I want to include, and inventing characters
>last month swore I would actually start writing the book and do 1000 words every day
>only 6000 words in and I’ve realized I’m a horrible writer

>>16174401
>>16174483

>>16174526
>haha, we don't rape as much as those other guys!

Amazing, just incredible. Way to admit it.

>>16174496
That's why you start with writing short stories.

>>16174496
>only 6000 words in and I’ve realized I’m a horrible writer
No shit you dumbfuck, writing isn't a talent, it's a skill and you haven't developed it. Of course you suck, now stop whining and fuck off.

>>16173790
It is amusing to see that the Min casting seems to be the straw that broke the camel's back. They really done fucked up, but I had no hopes in the beginning.

>>16174526
Sperg-tastic post, truly. Slit your fucking wrists before the next one

Can someone please explain why does every single fucking male protagonist in a modern fantasy book has to act a fucking pussy? What the fuck happened to crushing your enemies and fucking their wives?

I swear to god, why does this medieval fucking warrior has ideas about equality and pacifism? JUST FUCKING STAB THEM YOU CUNT

>>16174851
Because modern fantasy is mostly written by pussies and bitches.

>>16174851
Give examples.

Best book I read this year by far.

>>16174851
read more books

>>16174883
Okay, Leigh.

>>16174851
Proactive Conan type characters have always been an outlier, I think this is because a lot of the time fantasy tales are about reacting to a threat and preserving the statues quo. I think what is harder to find is a character does lusts for power and conquest like Conan that isn't written to be edgy and an anti-hero, they are amoral but not joyful and vital like Conan was.

Help a retard out.
Why did he an hero after snorting fantasy coke?

>>16174914
Recommendations for good epic fantasy/science fiction audio books?
Eyes are getting tired from being on the computer all day, figure I can take a walk to get some exercise and listen to a book in my free time.

>>16174914
Because edgy.

>>16174851
Where do I start with Conan?

>>16174953
Guy who reads Relevation Space series, does a really good job

>>16175039
Thanks, guess I'll check out the Spellmonger series.

>>16174496
>worldbuilding

>>16174546
No

Anyone know any books similar to Legend of The Galactic Heroes? I’ve only watched the first movie but I like the concept.

>>16174912
Conan sounds based

Might have to start reading it

>>16173356
Is the moon is a harsh mistress good

>>16175361
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>16173356
I can't fucking do this anymore. She was the worst part of the last book and I had to sit through a fucking thousand pages of her. The little arguing with herself thing was tame as shit compared to what is in the new book. I wanted to see more of spren land but now it's basically going to be used as backdrop while watch this ginger cunt refuses to face her issues for dozens of chapters again while adolin follows her around like a castrated simpy puppy.

>>16175446
Thank you

>>16173356
I just finished reading NK Jemison's The Fifth Season and thought it was just alright. Was it supposed to be good? I read it on recommendation of a youtuber I like and he said it's an example of great modern fantasy writing. I enjoyed that the book wasn't stuck in any of the old tropes most fantasy series have, but the narrative itself didn't feel all too special. Also the perspective and character shifts with each chapter, including the second person narration felt unnecessary. Reading it made me feel as if the book was trying to emulate Soul Mountain by Gao Xingjian, and this book was not as good as that one

Who? E William Brown? That guy? Fuck em.

>>16173356
>shallan on the cover
Glad I dropped Sanderson completely at book 3 of stormlight archives.

>>16175030
The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian

>>16175413
>>16175735

Based Shallan turning more anons away from epic fantasy than I ever could.

>>16175557
Whats this recurring theme of people who hate Sanderson buying and reading his books? You are the problem

>>16175772
Unfortunately, Sanderson is a really good writer.

>>16175557
>buying
You really think most people on 4chan pay for the media they consume?

>>16175777
>Sanderson is a really good writer

Is he?

I think people pretty much buy the books for the hype.

>>16175824
shit, actually meant to reply to this >>16175772

>>16175707
>at book 3 of stormlight archives
So you didn't drop shit, you read all the books released so far and probably will read the 4th when it comes out too.

>>16175824
Reading epubs is not optimal so why wouldnt you get a physical book?

>>16175777
Lowest common denominator pandering isn't good writing. It sells of course, but only because most of the world is low IQ idiots with no taste whatsoever that will consume literally anything.

>>16175849
>Reading epubs is not optimal
I didn't buy any of the last 50 sffg books I read. Fuck wasting money and space on shitty paperbacks about space goblins.

Does anyone here read science fiction/fantasy magazines? Are any of them worth it?

>>16175849
>Reading epubs is not optimal
For your paper-enamored ass, maybe.

Shallan is really unsufferable she ruins the 3rd book

>>16176102
Lets rape her.

>>16176131
When has rape ever solved anything?

>>16174526
>implying all the church rape are reported
>implying that the church doesn't cover it up, and the priests don't guilt the altar boys into believing God sent him for the dick

>tor always publish new releases lists every month on their site
>suddenly missed the incredibly packed august schedule
without checking I'm developing a conspiracy theory that this is because they're the only publisher without a big hitter this month

>>16173602
I hope you publish it when you're done. I might actually read that shitshow if you can condense 13 books into 4.

>>16175849
>paperlet can't use e-ink

>>16175841
Sanderson released at least 3 books since stormlight archives 3. I used to read everything Sanderson published, that stopped with shallan's shit in stormlight 3.

>>16176131
Yes!

Rape her, beat her

>>16173367
I think you want the based Branderson for this one. He is a true believer.

>>16173367
Memory, Sorrow and Throne has a carbon copy catholic church and the pope is a good guy.

>>16173367
Vox Day's epic fantasy series; which it looks like he's never going to finish.

I wanna put my pp in a girl's pp hole. Please recommend books like this.

>>16176587
is Vox Day's stuff actually good or is he just a right wing spokesman?

>>16176718
>or is he just a right wing spokesman?
Yes.

>>16176718
He's terrible, all of the political stunt shit is him trying to find an audience for the bad writing.

>>16174253
That's called steampunk, anon. Try Powder Mage.

>>16174253
The Thousand Names

>>16174253
>>16176755
that's why I didn't reply to the post lol, steampunk and victorian inspired is probably like 10% of the whole fantasy market minimum
Bullet Catcher's Daughter is the one I really like but that's real world but with vastly shifted politics instead of different world

>>16174496
You don't get better at writing by moaning on 4chan, you get better by practicing. You are going to write a lot of turgid shit before you produce anything good. You need to write habitually, and need to stretch yourself by writing things you don't normally write. It's the only way figure out what you need to work on and to understand how you think as a writer.

>>16176761
>The Thousand Names
First time I heard of it
Sound like exactly something I could go for right now
Is it really good?

>>16176794
I enjoyed it, because the author clearly is a buff of the Napoleonic wars given the parallels in his books. It's not an era you see a lot of in fantasy. Just Strange & Norrel and this series. Gonna be up front though: main character in book 1 is a lesbian, a butch lesbian, and there's lesbian sex scenes in alter books.

>>16176718
Yes it's good; as far as epic fantasy goes. Ignore the bugmen like these fatties >>16176721
>>16176736

>>16176809
Not them but I think I might give it another try
I bounced off it pretty hard because of how over the top the mysterious motivations of everyone were and iirc the focus on talking about battle formations was a bit excessive.

Are there any (preferably good) novels heavily featuring amazons?

What is /sffg/ opinion of Bakker's prince of nothing series?

>>16176829
Talk of battle formations gives me a stiffy but I know it's not for everybody. I find it hard to recommend The Thousand Names cause the kind of people who'd be into the intrigue and lesbian stuff tend to have little patience for 19th century warfare wankery and vice versa.

>>16176825
>everyone who doesn't like what I like is a bugman fattie
You know bugman and fatty don't go together, right?

>>16176846
I'm weird in that I love 19th century ship stuff but aren't too into anything infantry based.
Yet in scifi I like infantry stuff over ship stuff.
I did read most of Soul of the World which had that stuff but didn't put me off so I might be more receptive now.

>>16176834
Cunny!

>>16173356

I've come across a bunch of comments that stated that Wildbow has grown since Worm, and so I'm thinking of getting secondhand thoughts on delving into what i've also heard is his 'best' and most recent story. Pale is supposed to be a shorter and more "experimental" work. Is it worth my time. The setting is supposed to be like American gods meets the percy jackson novels and I liked both of those.

Hmmm, Powder Mage, which I've actually heard of, but I thought it was much older
Or, The Thousand Names

Probably not reading two books that are so similar back-to-back, sound similar in setting I mean, they could very well be entirely different

>>16176846
>into the intrigue and lesbian stuff tend to have little patience for 19th century warfare wankery and vice versa
You know what, not a problem at all with me.
I'll put it on my reading list.

>>16176909
they are pretty different in setting think of powder mage as immediately post revolutionary france and thousand names as british imperial expeditions (into africa iirc)

>>16173367
A Canticle for Leibowitz

>>16176909
Powder mage holds up better than Thousand Names by book 3 imo.
>>16176834
Bakker is based and a good filter.

>>16176909
I've read both, and they're pretty different. Powder Mage draws inspiration from the French Revolution, and The Thousand Names from the French Empire, mainly Napoleon's rise and fall. Powder Mage's magic is well known by people, integrated into society, military, and government. If not exactly common, it's somewhat mundane in how people treat it. Whereas in The Thousand Names magic is believed a myth by most folks and is only just starting to "wake up" again.

It never ceases to amaze me how many seek out what they hate the most so that they can feel angry about it and tell people how angry they are about how it exists. Sure, I'd be angry about a lot of it as well, which is why I don't seek out trivial nonsense to be angry about.

Buy my books

>>16176975
I did, publish more please.

>>16176975
Snandersnon...
I kneel

>>16176991
Suddenly I understand where Sanderson gets all his romance writing chops from.

>>16176834
GOAT

>>16177005
What gets me about Sanderson is that he talks about being inspired by Barbara Hambly who wrote one of the best fantasy romances I've ever read and yet none of that seems to have rubbed off on him

>>16176834
I fell asleep when the young knight guys was visiting underground elf mountain
click
click
click
now I can't pick the book up again, it's been too long

Recommend something with literary depth. Can be science fiction or fantasy. I have read: Gene Wolfe, R. Scott Bakker and Guy Gavriel Kay.

>>16177079
Already read Wolfe, huh..
Sounds like you are out of luck.
There are literally no other GOOD genre fiction.

>>16177079
If you actually cared about literary depth you wouldn't waste your time with genre fiction.

>>16177079
Reading Wolfe does not mean you have literary tastes. Writing snobby 4chan posts about genre fiction does not make you a scholar. Take your pretensions to credibility elsewhere, this pond is clearly too small for you ego-- I mean intellect.

>>16177104
>>16177101
Brehs,, don't be like this,,

But, seriously, I've read all Wolfe
Now nothing else can measure up
I just want something like his scifi stuff

>>16173367
Deryni

>a trinidadian liked one of my goodreads reviews
I am a worldwide tastemaker

Did anyone carry on with the Jenn Lyons series after The Ruin of Kings?
I liked it but wasn't sure how much I'd forgotten by the time the sequel came out so I just never carried on (I really should stop reading series as they release)

>>16174851
Modern publishing is dominated by wahmen and faggy sjw s o y b o y s

>>16176887
I've read pact till they kill the time cop, which was just torture porn of seeing Blake getting thrown from one shit puddle to another.
Pale is set in the same universe, If it follows the same formula then there is no point even trying to read it. The only redeemable thing about the setting is that the practitioners can't lie which makes the brain games kinda fun.

>>16174851
>I swear to god, why does this medieval fucking warrior has ideas about equality and pacifism?
Those ideas both existed in medieval times though.
It wasn't all out filth and rape as trashy american historical fiction tends to portray the period. You really can't get much beyond the absolute basics of medieval english history before encountering the Lollards for instance.

>>16176887
Worm was mediocre, Pact was bad, Worm 2 was trash.
Yeah he's grown, grown worse and worse.

>>16177033
What book. She's got a lot

Also any other fantasy romances?

>>16174131
>shwitty?

>>16177079
Gormenghast

>>16177290
Sunwolf and Starhawk

>>16173384
>>16174385
*tips*

>wrote 3 pages last night
>read it today after work
>killed it

>>16177005
>>16176991
I don't want you to understand, I want you buy.

Sanderson's books are the MCU of fantasy (and that's a good thing).

>>16177290
this >>16177327
sanderson also mentions Dragonsbane since that was one of the first books he read as a kid and has a married witch mom as the protagonist.
>Also any other fantasy romances?
Dragon Prince and Dragon Star series by melanie Rawn, a personal favorite of Sanderlad too

Who are the fantasy writers with the greatest prose?

>>16177519
Tolkien & Follett

>>16177519

>>16173585
Based tomboy bro

>>16177200
She sticks a whole chapter explaining modern gender theory in the second book. I enjoyed the first book, but that was a bit much to sit through.

>>16176861
Yes they do, bugman fatty.

>>16177883
Not him, but isn't bugman what butthurt Americans call Asians? They are mostly slim, way slimmer on average than average white person.
Your insults don't even make sense.

>>16177519
SanderGOD

>>16177892
Please leave, chinkoid. Your bat soup is getting cold.

>>16177892
they can't make their mind up on a definition
some of the time it's used for asians, some of the time it's used to supposedly insult "mindless consumers" then here you have a guy using it to defend appalling fantasy writing

>>16177540
>Tolkien
By all means, I love Lord of the Ring and Tolkien, bless his soul
But, is that even true?

>>16177910
Quit pretending you've read Day's books lol

>>16177909
I'm not an Asian, but your tears are delicious. I can't wait for the inevitable moment when you finally get overtaken by China in GDP, the tantrum will be out of this world.

>>16176424
I will definitely put it out on the interwebz for people. Plan to before the end of the year. I may only get it down to 9 books total. Depending on if I find a place to split books 1-3 differently.

>>16177927
You are asian, piss skin. Please stop shitting up the thread with your garbage.

>>16177911
yes

>>16177937
In case you've already forgotten, I'm not the one that went off on a tangent about how everyone who disagrees with you must be some boogeyman.

>>16173679
>creator is a fucking former Survivor contestant.
What?

>>16174873
Peak example

So many basedboys are getting pissy about Thomas Covenant because the MC rapes a girl (he thinks that it's all just a dream, as he can't believe that the magical Land and getting cured of his terminal illness could be real), but my issue was actually that he was way too hung-up on that. The future of the Land is in his hands and instead of focusing on saving tens of thousands of lives he gets all mopey about one random girl (who actually understood that his mission is more important and did everything she could not to obstruct it even after the rape).
While being a bitch boy is an understandable human flaw, it just got boring to read about, so after some time I dropped this shit.

>>16174019
this is the answer

>>16173367
T. Pedo

>>16175662
was written by a libtard woman so it got hyped up, it was ok, the terminator pedo guy was cool

>>16177327
>>16177463
I'll check them out ty

>>16177519
Mervyn Peake

>>16177758
How could you subject yourself to that

F

>>16178408
I read through the bisexual elf death cult orgy island in the first book. That at least had a good payoff ending. The second book somehow made fighting two dragons at once boring, after spending the first three quarters of the book following around a girl who wants to be a man so she can be a ruler like her father. This is despite the fact that there is a magical gender transition ceremony in universe too, that she for some reason never uses. Needless to say, I won’t be reading the third book.

>>16174914
LMAOOOOO I just finished this and wanted to ask the same thing LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I’m so onions boy giddy rn

>>16174914
Just like how his daddy got maddy on the ring, he get cwazy under the wellspring with his male offspring. He’s all like yeahhh haha imma show these human jerk offs how cool I am and snort this shit hahah “yeah this.... yeah *caughs* yeah the *wheezes*” AAARRGH HES GOING INSANE. Much how when everything is pretty chill when ur sober, when you get suppa high u get crazy, and allot of crazy shit happened to this poor ass nigga. Plus he gets hard on for mimaras ABSOLUTE GOD EYE and he’s all like wow us dunyain are so gay compared to what this dumb bitch got FUCK and he snorts that shit, starts getting hard core ptsd, he’s only chillin when he killin, he realizes, he’s like yeah that’s no good that’s not ABSOLUTE vibes, plus her judging eye is low key telling me to kill myself (she said she forgave him his sins) so my nigga JUMPS BRO I’m like ahaaaa nooooooooo noooooooooo (I forgot his name)

>>16176794
I just finished the series last night, it's good. If you don't like reading about wars and tactics it'll be a slog, but the magic is fun. I felt like a brainlet when I realized in the third book that Janus was literally just Napoleon, and I couldn't believe I hadn't seen it before then

>>16174914
They were talking about how “Grotesque“ this dude looks but with those dunyain BVLL genetics he still looks better than 99% of guys on tinder

>>16177744
>tfw no tomgirl gf to fuck

>>16176944
I mean, Book two and three of the thousand names is literally just the French revolution with the storming of the Bastille, the guillotine and everything. I laughed quite a bit at his version of Danton for how accurate it was

>>16174914
i think akka said that he wanted to be one with the absolute, but why jumping off a cliff achieves this idk, so bumb. Maybe I’m retarded too cause I also have no idea why he did it. I was hoping for a “whassup daddy” scene, but bakker would rather die than leave your expectations unsubverted

>>16177928
>may only get it down to 9 books total.
Still took much. I can't subject myself to 9 books of braid tugging and skirt smoothing.

>>16178339
>So many basedboys are getting pissy about Thomas Covenant because the MC rapes a girl
No. It's because "he's a leper" ad nauseam is too much to put up with, with the book already being shit.

>>16174914
Where do you all find these second apocalypse fan arts?

>>16177519
Grrm

almost done listening to every sandershit, (listening not reading because I'm not devoting my actual reading time to anything nonliterary)

At this point I'd probably rank Elantris and Mistborn Era 1 highest, Warbreaker mid tier, The Way of Kings High-mid, Mistborn 2 and Words of Radiance Absolute dogshit tier.

how does that sound

>>16176834
Very based would read again

>>16178376
Where?

>>16176886
Akka did nothing wrong :(

>>16178655
What about the emperor's soul?

>>16173585
I prefer the allure of older women

>>16178678
better than everything else. didn't mention it but I was only counting the proper novels

>>16178607
Filtered

>>16175030
Phoenix on the Sword

>>16175416
Yes. Read it.

>tfw you realize /sffg/ is little better than reddit

>Drusas Achamian
More like Drusas Acuckamian
>akka
More like acuck.
Because because he wanted to be a simp cuck that the world ended.

>>16177042
Yeah that part was honestly a slog, I just started doing the speed reading shit one does and blew right through it while seeing it as a brain movie instead of a worded out experience, but yeah, he probs coulda done that part a bit better

>>16178713
What's Reddit like?

>>16177125
Game of thrones

>>16178728
Like /sffg/

>>16176991
Oh no-no-no

Take heed, aspiring authors.
You are always a thin line away from having a mega fan turn sour, and take it upon themselves to ruin you.
Seeing that guy screeching about ewilliam brown every thread is giving me vibes that they perceived that the author hurt them in some way, and they doing all in their power to smear his name.

>>16178771
Imagine giving a shit what """fans"'' think about your work. All of the best stories were written for their wife, their children or themselves.

>>16178728
on reddit they actually talk about fantasy rather than frothing at the mouth about "soiboys", "trannies" and "sjws". It's fucking surreal, I don't understand how anyone can have a civilized conversation in that environment

>>16178805
It would almost make you wonder why you don't go back and stay there

>>16174851
Go read Karsa Orlong chapters from the Malazan series

>>16178771
>>16178785
Actually. How I understand the Brown anon explained is that brown is a scammer or some shit. He put up a pay wall and refuses to publish his book. So you have to buy the book a chapter a month for 5 holla dollas a month. And some months he doesn't even give them the book.

Why does Hyperion suck so bad, is this peak sci fi???

>>16178805
on reddit they seethe about racists and transphobes. not that different. they probably do it less than here because it's easy to be confident when you hold the whip hand

How many times do you think Marcus broke Raesinia's hymen before they got around to exorcising her? Also how the fuck did the Black Church get the name of a demon that can't be fucking killed?

>>16178842
>le self insert martin crue cantos character

>>16178655
Words of Radiance is better than the The Way of Kings.

>>16178655
I've only read WoK and WoR and that sounds fair.

Anyone know if coiling dragon book 2 is coming out on audio book this year?

>>16178851
Fuck I hated that book. The author had ONE job, one goddamn job, yet he couldn't get winter raped?

>>16178961
There was basically only rape in the first book, and I'm not sure why

>>16178584
>i think akka said that he wanted to be one with the absolute
this. but I too forget why. The Dunyain are all 'muh philosophy, muh causality' and they may or may not think we're all just atoms being pushed along by previous states.. I haven't read Bakker in a while.

>>16178632
see pic, best pic. Jason Deem does a lot of fan art

>>16174253
The curious case of Spring Heeled Jack

>>16176809
No thanks

>>16173602
Where can I find them when you’re done, it sounds perfect

>>16177519
Rothfuss but his books are shit

>>16178454
lol wtf is this shit

/sffg/ - lyrics edition

>Mechanical shutdown due to reactor core meltdown
>And outdated parts collapsed and discharged
>Autopilot on emergency power from
>Random fuel devoured
>Red alert sirens sighing
>Rusty pipelines dying
>Empty hull shatter into cold dark matter

kinda reminds me of The Stars My Destination..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX9dxLmrm8Q

>>16178590
anon, implying I'm leaving in the braid tugging and skirt smoothing...pls anon.

>>16179024
Thank you anon, it's going very well. So when they're ready I'm excited to have people try 'em out. I'm not sure yet where I will post. (I will post, just a matter of where. Trying to decide how much trouble the publisher might give me). At a minimum I will post in these threads, and I'll give a heads-up before I do. Looking to finish before the year, but I'm ahead of schedule so could be end of October.

My third or fourth time trying to read Dragonborne Chair, maybe it will stick this time

>>16178655
>>16178678
>>16178693
the emperor's soul is easily sanderson's best work and is genuinely good.

>>16179075
>>>/mu/tants

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3170310-neuropath

is it good?

>>16179075
way too cliche imo, just chucking out buzz/genre words

>autopilot
>emergency power
>red alert
>reactor core meltdown

the due to is wack as well, not neccesery

>>16176344
>oh no homosexuals raping is suddenly an issue because priests

>>16173900
the obvious choice

What do you do when the book you wanna read is nowhere uploaded ?
Buy it? I don’t think so

>>16179396
What's wrong with buying things?

>>16179411
I’m not gonna pay like 30 bucks to buy a book I’ll read in two hours

>>16179411
The jews

>>16179442
Such as

>>16179396
what book and where have you checked, ESL-kun?

>>16179450
Ok well it’s actually 6 bucks on kindle but I still aint

>>16179396
There's a new book I'd like to read currently out only in paperback (by choice), but I won't be buying it because I simply have no more room for books. It really sucks because my favorite modern writer of short fiction has a new story in this book so I guess I'm gonna have to wait until he releases it himself in a new collection or something.

>>16179487
And how many hours to read

>>16179496
Prolly two hours for a normal speed read

kek

>>16179508
>Rhodri
>Llew

Very creative!

The books I’m looking for is the six concentrics by GJ kelly
Only the first one is uploaded anywhere I can find

>>16179546
>what do you mean he's using historical names in a historical setting?!
What a piece of shit, right?

https://rsbakker.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/crash-space-tpb.pdf

>>16179552
>Rhodri
>Llew

>>16179581
Are you stuck in some sorta retard loop?

>>16174496
>6000 words
You haven't even started yet

>>16175772
Sanderson's books are exactly like marvel movies in a lot of ways; people will bitch about them not being triumphs of the form but still read them because they're nice turn-brain-off popcorn entertainment.

>>16177079
Dune

>>16177356
*peeks*
hope you enjoy the show, mental cuckold

>>16178201
must this be posted in every SFFG? how bout something different, cucked or kvothe cringe, for a change?

>91 posts in 6 hours
can't wait to read all this discussion of sff

>>16175662
Take my advice and don't read the second book. It leaves out most of what made the first one not a complete waste of paper and takes the woke to full on broke.

>>16179743
>>>/lgbt/

>>16179762
Thanks for your contribution

>>16175887
Not sure what you mean by magazines, but this is probably closest. It's a periodical that publishes scifi short stories.
http://compellingsciencefiction.com/index.html

>>16173585
I liked Aviendha. Strict disciplined girls who might try and physically fight me are my jam.

>>16176975
>buy
>books
lolno
Get a real job, hippy.

Pleb opinions coming through.

Guy Gavriel Kay has the best prose in modern fantasy

Robin Hobb is second best. Very simple, but elegant. She knows how to enhance emotional moments with it, even though you won’t read her for prose.

Wolfe is good, but overrated. His writing actively detracts from the work too often and pulls the reader out of the world.

Sanderson’s writing style is perfect. It would kill the pacing of his books and the clarity of world building if he stopped using plain language.

>>16173621
Goddamn, and people here laugh at Rotfuss, but even his worst turds are better than this.

>>16173356
Kettricken is probably my favourite fantasy girl. I probably need to read more female-led fantasy desu.

>>16179783
>>>/twitter/

>>16179048
>patrick "the sword looked dangerous, like a stone in a river" rothfuss
>good prose

>>16180005
his prose is pretty good

>>16179984
Django Wexler's been mentioned a few times already in this thread, but that's pretty much all he writes. They're also usually lesbians making out with the hottest chick in the story.

>>16180040
I tried reading the Thousands Words series but couldn't sit through it when this supposedly military fantasy series turned into cringeworthy teen lesbian romance drama.
If you want to write coomer fantasy just be honest about it, I wish authors would stop shoehorning that shit into series that could have actually been interesting.

>>16180119
I didn't feel like it was that bad in the thousand names, but his teen series is basically explicitly that with a cool setting. At least Jane gets bitched the fuck out.

S&S lads, should I finish the Rigante series by David Gemmell? Currently 2/3s into the second book.
I read that books 3-4 take place hundreds of years after the first two. Is it more of the same?
How does it compare to Drenai?
Can I read Legend and stop there?
Does Drenai have a little more magic? (firebolts and shit)

>>16180208
David Gemmell is dead

>>16179922
I thought GGK did historical fiction?

>>16180289
GGK does historical fiction in the same sense that GRRM does it.

>>16180275
Yeah, so?

>>16180208
Well are you enjoying the books?

Is there an essentials list? I see a lot of the same books being discussed and I'd like to make my way through the top 2 or so tiers of classics, influencers, and essentials.

Watched Faiz before (currently) watching Ryuki.
How, and I'm unironically asking, do they go from a decent enough drama to the shit show that was Faiz's non-fighting segments?
So far, Shinji and Ren have had more reason to dislike another character than Kusaka had reason to pick on the other characters.

>>16180464
WHAT MOTHERFUCKER

>>16180468
Wrong thread, will be getting the delete.
My bad.

>>16180208
>S&S lads, should I finish the Rigante series by David Gemmell? Currently 2/3s into the second book.
>I read that books 3-4 take place hundreds of years after the first two. Is it more of the same?
Rigante series isn't really S&S for starters. And yes the last two books take place centuries later and feature flintlock guns, but you don't HAVE to read them if that doesn't interest you.
>How does it compare to Drenai?
Rigante is more emotional and drama oriented whereas Drenai is much, MUCH more Sword & Sorcery oriented, but still has enough emotional drama to make you care about the characters.
>Can I read Legend and stop there?
Why would you want to? Legend is one of the best siege novels of all time, but the other Drenai novels are more typical fantasy fare so if that's what you're wanting you should of course keep reading. Keep in mind you don't HAVE to read the Drenai novels in order (except for maybe the last two). You could start with Waylander or First Chronicles of Druss the Legend since those both take place BEFORE Legend chronologically. And yes Drenai has a little more magic, but you need to keep in mind this isn't epic fantasy so there won't cheesy anime battles between wizards flying through the air and shit. The magic is on the lower end of the spectrum for the most part.

>>16180021
>his prose is pretty good
>like big boobs on a hot chick

>>16180005
lol is that an actual line? Why would a stone in a river "look dangerous?" There's lots of stones in rivers.

>>16180005
This. I don't know why the Rothfuss has good prose meme persists. It reads like a reddit post by a middlewit.

so if i want to read shannara where should i start and how should i read it afterwards

>Shallan OP image
>"Shallan is a waifu"
>Saying Sanderson has good prose

Zoomers confirmed mono-genre apes and rely on social media to tell them who their favourite authors are.
Sanderson is at best an average fantasy worldbuilder which would be lost in the sea of R*ddit posts, and a sub-par writer that would be laughed out of the room for thinking utilitarian narration makes up for his lack of creative prose.
Stan a different author.

>>16180654
>complains about Sanderson
>yet used the word stan unironically

>>16178632
That one was from some dude called quintvc on Deviantart. He's got lots in the same style, but its not all Second Apocalypse.

>>16180664
Kinda proves the point of Sanderson being highly overrated if that's the response.

>>16180613
Because the average person that reads fantasy cycles through the same few books by a handful of authors.
That's why they talk about how good a series is rather than how good individual pieces are.
You unironically have a good chunk of Wheel of Time called 'The Slog' and people will still say it's the best books to exist. It makes no sense.

>>16178607
That may be why you didn't like it, but I've read some reviews and most focus on bitching about the rape.

>>16180458
https://www.dicegeeks.com/dnd-recommended-reading/

>>16180581
you might slip on it

>>16179303
Where did I say that, former altar boy? I just said you pope and the entire Catholic church buggers little boys.

>>16180781
Stop recommending that. In any case, I want the /sffg/ essentials.

>>16179501
>speed read
Ah. That answers everything.

>>16180299
>>16180289
>>16179922
GGK writes historical fiction, then puts one ghost one person can see, so he can use the fantasy tag, but his books aren't fantasy. GGK fans are the worst.

>>16180930
Neuromancer
Lord of the Rings
BOTNS

>>16180676
WhAlE mOtHeRs

>>16180976
Unironically nothing wrong with that all things considered.

What did the whale mothers even really look like?

>>16181028
I'm imagining my mother, but wider

>>16181028

>>16180931
You speed read his post. Unless it was meant to be a troll, then well done, you got me.

You guys keep forcing me to make threads, so be it...

>>16181322
>>16181322
>>16181322
>>16181322

>>16175030
Several options.
Two main choices are the complete chronicles of Conan (1 book) or the 3 del Rey books, book 1 being the coming of Conan the cimmmerian. I have the latter and stories are ordered by the date in which they were written.
First Conan story I ever read though was hour of the dragon. Made me want to read the other stories. If you've watched the movies and want king conan read the hour of the dragon. It's Howard's only Conan novel.

>>16178201
How does a human being write this without cringing?