/lit/ - Literature

>>16162511
Queries commence!

>>16162521
I don't get it. Why is this woman posted everywhere?

Started with the greeks a few months and now the time has come.
How do I read Plato?
please provide guides, charts or anything that keeps me from getting filtered

>A toast! To literature!

>>16162539
just one faggot trying to force a meme for like a week now

Best place to get audiobooks? Is audible worth it?

Does anyone have any recommendation on books to read to improve my prose writing skills?
>besides Elements of Style

>>16162831
Go for the Hunter Thompson method, type out a novel you like.

>>16162815
Audible is fucking awesome. It's kinda pricey at first glance, but it usually takes me about a month (or maybe even longer) to finish an audiobook and so I always have a credit or two left over to do whatever the fuck I want with.

I love audiobooks so it's a no-brainer for someone like me.

>>16162511
Are there any books that throughly detail Jan van Eyck‘s life?

Is it worth it to understand anything about the human condition?

>>16162849
I was thinking of buying the annual subscription plan that includes 24 books. I think its somewhere around $230, averaging $11 dollars for each audiobook..

>>16162870
Idk, he’s a pretty mysterious figure, not sure if anyone knows a lot about his life

>>16162877
I’ll share my audiobooks with you, if you share your pizza with me fren ;^)

Do I need to read the rest of the Mahabharata before reading the Bhaghavad Gita?

>>16162883
Hmm that’s what I was afraid of

no

>>16162890
Wtf dude the Mahabharata is like 500 light years long, nobody reads it let alone reads it before the Gita

You can read the Mahabharata more easily if you get into Indian youtube channels where they follow it like anime. Not joking, they learn it like it's Wookieepedia lore about legendary India or some shit. That might make it more fun to dip into and read over a long period. But anyone who claims to sit down and read it cover to cover has gotta be lying unless they are already deeply educated.

>>16162870
Usually when I see him talked about it's in books that cover his art or his whole period, like in Panofsky or Pacht. I bet you could read the intros to a few books on him on libgen and scan the footnotes for some classic old biography. Strange to say but usually those old, chunky biographies turn out to have been written in the first 60 years of the 20th century, because that's when all the archival material was widely available and there were tons of scholars doing in-depth biographies to make their name. I think they just ran out of figures to write about in that classical biographical style around the 1960s.

The one in this genre I'm seeing is by Baldass (1952), but is in German.

>>16162815
What kind do you like?

How do you bookmark something in the Akashic Library?

bump

>>16162837
Wait, does it really work?

>mfw he turned one of Borges's shitposts into a real thing

>>16162548
1st tetralogy (getting started): Alcibiades I + Lysis/Laches/Charmides
2nd tetralogy (the sophists): Protagoras +Hippias major/Hippias minor/Gorgias (updated 10/21/2017, see note above)
3rd tetralogy (Socrates'trial): Meno + Euthyphro/Apology/Crito
4th tetralogy (the soul): Symposium + Phædrus/Republic/Phædo
5th tetralogy (logos): Cratylus + Ion/Euthydemus/Menexenus
6th tetralogy (dialectic): Parmenides + Theætetus/Sophist/Statesman
7th tetralogy (kosmos): Philebus + Timæus/Critias/Laws

>>16163367
>lit/ is a slow board!
>Bump replies are not necessary.

>>16162815
Audible is a huge ripoff, the prices are outrageous
Luckily I don’t even pirate as I get most of my stuff through my library online with an app. A lot of older stuff is straight up on Spotify or any podcast app.

The only way audible is worth it is if you listen to like, precisely one book a month, no more, no less

I'm new into reading books and I'd like to ask a few things...
1. How many hours should I read a day?
2. Any recommended informational books in regards to psychology?
3. Should I read only 1 book a day?

>>16164862
>1. How many hours should I read a day?
as long as it is fun, and doesn't fuck up your life, which is about half an hour in the morning, and one or two in the evening, binge on weekends.
>2. Any recommended informational books in regards to psychology?
Watch The Century Of The Soul (BBC), then subscribe to science journals or paper providers
>3. Should I read only 1 book a day?
no, as many as necessary for your purpose

are poems named after Poe or is it coincidence?

>>16165017
the origin is the Ancient Greek word poiesis in contrast to praxis and theoria

>>16162890
do you cross your legs over-under or under-over?

>>16164193
Why did he add the "y" to his last name? Is there an art to pseudonyms?

>>16160181
What does the red fruit symbolize?

Anyone has a book on why we should not accept refugees and migrants that refuse to assimilate?

>>16162511
hey frens, please help. I'm looking for a book named something like "greatest story never written". It's a study of civilizations and history by some women for her PHD and it's more then 1000 pages. Last time I came across it I was in the middle of reading something else and decided to put it off. Now I can't find it..

>>16165615
never mind, it has the same name as Hitlers documentary and didn't come up in searches with just name.

What mark makes a sound like uh?

>>16165920
ö?

>>16165974
I mean the letter a sound like uh.

opinions about guy debord?

>>16165920
The schwa. ə

>>16165982
oh hi Muhrk

wats ur fav letter?

>>16162511
Ok, I'm a bit desperate. Is there any extant copy of Peirce's Grand Logic 1893, or at least some sort of guide on how to construct it from what has been released of his manuscript so far? I'm a bit shit at this part of research and was just hoping someone would have a good place for me to look

How do writers use social media to gain a following?

All the literary agents I have been looking at seem to want myself to have an online presence before they will even consider my manuscript.

Can I get away with just posting short poems that I write daily, and that be enough, or do I need to start kneeling to negros and including my pronouns?

>>16162815
>subjecting yourself to DRM and Bezos voluntarily
I wouldn't.

>>16166043
I'd quote known writers, post your readings and make the /lit/ version of hustler culture shitposting.

>>16162511
What am I in for?

>>16166043
You literally just need to be able to effectively market your book. That’s what they want. They need you to shill your stuff.

>>16166499
But I don't have a book to market yet, that is why I need a literary agent.
Seems like a vicious cycle.

Has anyone read S. Craig Zahler's books "A Congregation of Jackals" or "Wraiths of the Broken Land?" Are they any good?

>>16162873
>Is it worth it to understand anything about the human condition?
no, plus the human condition is an idea made up by secular humanists

Money is running short. I regret buying so many books. I cannot change the past.

>>16162815
1. Download book over irc
2. Ctrl+A Ctrl+C
3. Paste into text to speech program
4. Generate free audiobook
5. ???
6. Profit

bumpcito

is 25 hours of video games a week too much? i wanna be more productive, but at the same time i like my hobbies

how do i see beauty?

>>16167752
Any time of videogames a week is too much.

>>16167760
check if your cock is hard

>>16167752
As I age I start to see how poisonous that shit really was. I don't particularly regret playing my favorite rpgs and stuff but holy fuck what kind of retard was I to play FPS games for hours on end or play shit just because it was out and I was "bored." Thousands of hours of my life lost.

As you get older you will start to see vidya the way you currently see children's books. Play the best ones as a side hobby if you must but limit it intelligently the same way you would any other hobby. There's a difference between watching all the slop Hollywood puts out every year, and being a film buff guy skimming the best from the top once in a while.

>>16167752
>is 25 hours of video games a week too much?
wtf yes

>>16167796
>Play the best ones
That's like saying "Go to the best fast food restaurants"

There's nothing wrong with actively consuming media, the idea that every hour of your life is going to be spent productively is just runoff from your protestant cultural origins.

>>16167760
In Butterfly. She is the most beautiful woman ever.

>>16167929
Not a question and cope.

>>16167926
Well why not? If you want greasy shit once in a while, better to get something decent in that category once in a while than just eat 2 bags of chips every night.

>>16167942
Right, it's an answer. If it was a question, there would be a question mark. I see the remote schooling is tough on you guys.

>>16162815
If you have a good or mediocre public library nearby, they usually have a large audiobook selection that you can basically pirate for free

>>16163015
>Usually when I see him talked about it's in books that cover his art or his whole period, like in Panofsky or Pacht. I bet you could read the intros to a few books on him on libgen and scan the footnotes for some classic old biography. Strange to say but usually those old, chunky biographies turn out to have been written in the first 60 years of the 20th century, because that's when all the archival material was widely available and there were tons of scholars doing in-depth biographies to make their name. I think they just ran out of figures to write about in that classical biographical style around the 1960s.
>The one in this genre I'm seeing is by Baldass (1952), but is in German.
Thank you very much

>>16167916
What should be my limit then? I cant be productive at all times

What books does he read /lit/?

>>16168118
Maybe an hour a day at most.

>>16168138
twitter

based jannies

>>16168148
3 hours a day isnt that bad man.

why does every slightly interesting thread on this board die or get immediately derailed into retardation?

>>16168271
Keep telling yourself that, soda-brain.

>>16168284
post 2016 4chan
>>16168294
i only drink water. Besides, i physically cannot be productive the entire day, so id rather do something engaging, rather than just watch television or some dumb shit on those off hours.

>>16168284
This is a thread made for redditors, by redditors. If you want a /lit/ discussion make a thread

>>16168284
Because people can't help themselves but respond to every attack, no matter how obvious the troll, no matter how irrelevant to the overall discussion.

>>16168353
Thats what he did and now he is here asking why his thread got derailed

>>16168382
No, I think he’s asking why this subreddit is currently way off topic

>>16168442
XD

Any books on solipsism?

need a book on love or in particular the different ideas and seperation between love and desire

>>16169726
The Art of Love - Eric Fromm
Sexual Desire - Roger Scruton

>>16169732
thank you anon
these books also cover anything on dependency on partners for personal happiness?

>>16169726
https://www.counter-currents.com/2010/11/d-h-lawrence-on-men-and-women-part-1/

>>16169726
Erotism by Bataille. Fuck the other anons books bataille has that answer you want

Any good book about criticism? There was a couple of threads about "How to read a book" and i get anguish because i didn't remember anything from the last 3 books i read this year, and that maybe all the animes and movies i have watched i didn't get it at all

Currently reading Lonesome Dove.

How do I pronounce Woodrow Call's name?
Is it 'Call', like Tall, or like Pal?

Pal version seems to make more sense for a last name in my head.

>>16170377
Check out mythologies by Barthes, it’s a collection of short articles he wrote that exemplify good criticism

>>16162511
I love this meme.

>>16170463
Thank you anon, Barthes seems interesting

>>16170528
No problem, he’s a good writer too, very readable.

>>16167926
‘Go to the best fast food restaurants’ like once once a month is genuinely good advice

Eating mac Donald’s everyday will kill you.

How long does it take to go from reading children's books in a language to reading real books when you're learning

>>16162511
Who is this absolute hobgoblin and why is he posted all over this site?

What does this mean?:

"It seems more likely that these echoes betray acquaintance with the work we know we know as Homer's."

I don't understand what it's saying.

>>16172290

>>16172672
uncanny

How many books do i have to read to fix my all problems?

>>16172952
Just pick one from the New Testament.

Is anyone here trying to live off working as a freelance journalist/critic?

I'm thinking of quitting my reasonably well paying dead-end job and just fucking going for it.
What I have going for me:
- I have a weekly writing gig for one article per week. This takes care of half of the money I need to survive each month.
- I have a foot in the door with one other (well regarded) magazine for which I've written three book reviews in the past.
- I have well off parents who support me to fall back on if all goes wrong.

When they say 'Marginalized', they mean non-straight, and non-white, right?
They don't mean they want stories about mental health, unless it's a brown tranny writer, right?

>>16162511
I have enough of this place, seriously. I have never spent more than a few seconds on reddit, but I want to go back. I don't want to be here forever. Problem being reddit is so fucking appalling. Give me a 4Chan guide to reddit! Give it to me right fucking now! How do I get into r/books/seriouslit/shit! GET ME OUTTA HEREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16162511
AI is taking over. We have to do something about before it's too late.

>>16162548
>How do I read Plato?
You ask whatever question you happen to pass by into philosopherAI.com and you just wait for the AI to answer it for you. It's that simple.

>>16172290

>>16162511
is there a desktop browser version of that app?

I ordered the collected poems of Lorca the other night what should I expect?

>>16174126
the collected poems of Lorca

Which german bible translation is the most beautiful?

>>16173599
There is a reason you are stuck here and can‘t stomach more than a few seconds of reddit. The reason being that reddit sucks ass.

I've put aside around $1000 from crypto that I'm looking to spend on books that I wouldn't otherwise buy because they're too expensive. Any general recs? I've currently got the complete collections of Plato and Aristotle in my sights

>>16166990
Kill yourself you smug retard

>>16173305
Yes, if someone is soliciting manuscripts from “marginalized” groups they don’t want submissions from angsty suburban white kids with “depression”.

E-reader friends: how important is a case for my ereader? I broke the corner of the case putting it in and wonder if I need to get a new one instead or if I can just go without (it's not particularly comfortable holding it with the case for extended periods as the thin edge digs into my finger)

>>16176310
Because white people all live in the suburbs and never have any real problems

>>16176310
Most of the "marginalized" people getting published are angsty kids living in suburbs who happen to be brown

What are some good books on learning how to write poetry?

>>16176627
>>16176664
Then he should submit if he’s got such a great story; it shouldn’t be a problem.

>>16176781
You don't need a book
To learn to write poetry.
Just bee your true self

I have Plato's five dialogues, but keep seeing books with the title "Trial and Death of Socrates" but can't get a clear idea on whether or not these are different texts.

Is Trial and Death just stuff cut out from the five dialogues?

>>16176813
based coward

>>16167752
I play around 40 hours a week while maintaining a 4.0(+) and when I'm done school I'll be able to make enough money that I only need to work 2 days a week. Videogames are fun as fuck and life is about having fun, "being productive" is a meme normies tell themselves to justify wasting their life working some shit job.

What you really need to do is be more efficient with your time, it takes a while but as you become more and more efficient you'll find you can spend 5-6 hours a day gaming and still have a whole day to do other shit.

>>16176948
Life is not only about pleasure. Read the greeks.

>>16176948
Are you that animeposting tranny accelerationist who used to make offtopic threads to convince people that life is meaningless and one should "have fun" and become a tranny

Have you been visited by archangels to smite you for your evil yet?

>>16176948
It's more likely that he's not a high functioning autist, unlike yourself, so he won't benefit of videogames at all.

>>16176872
Trial and death is euphythro, apology, crito, phaedo. Doesn’t include meno I believe.

Reading Joyce for the first time and just finished The Sisters from Dubliners.
Is it right to feel an ethereal emptiness in his writing? Like the mundane as glass in front of universal truths.

How do I get started in Spanish language (translated to English) literature? So far the only author I have found that I've liked is Carlos Fuentes but I've only read Aura. I don't care much for what I've read of Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

>>16176977
Thanks, this makes sense

>>16177012
I've heard Garcia doesn't translate very well to english, is that what you mean? spanish writers translated to english?

>>16177036
Yes, right now I'm really looking for someone that will give me something to work to learn Spanish for, and I'm fluent in English.

>>16173599
/r/truelit actually isn't bad cause its still relatively small, and /r/bookscirclejerk is genuinely funny

Am not much of a sci-fi reader. Still, I try to read the more canonical works. Reading Left Hand of darkness ATM, just finished chapter 1. I don't think it's that great. Does it get better? should I read the dispossessed instead?

I don't read much, and that's either a cause or a reason of the following:
whenever I do, I need to reread sentences because I can't focus. I tried to focus more on creating pictures in my head as I read, but I still sometimes can't focus on what I'm reading or can't connect a sentence to the previous one (unless I go back). This is very annoying.
Could I have ADHD, or am I just not used to reading? I smoked weed a few times like a month ago, maybe it made me dull... But it's like that pretty often, to greater or lesser degree.

What books should I read to get a good grasp of Roman History?

>>16177566
disagree, like others r/___circlejerk boards, it devolves into karma farming.

>>16176603
bump

I fear that Wikipedia will soon be, or is already, full of woke revisionist history. What's a good alternative reference?

Any books or methods to learn Russian? I’m interested in learning to read more than anything else.

>>16179387
The Penguin Russian Course is great. I liked the pdf so much I bought a used copy from Abebooks in perfect condition for ten bucks.

My advice, do the Penguin Russian Course then do the duolingo then do the course again. If you just brute force reading beyond that you can be fine within several months. Russian is deceptively easy if you only want to read it. Things are usually easy to recognize and understand, but hard to use if you are writing/speaking. If you dont care about that, you'll be fine.

>>16179614
Thanks, anon.

>>16162815
Librivox is the best place for public-domain books. I'm listening to a lot of classics. The quality is meh sometimes, but it's hard to beat free.

>>16177821
read all of left hand or at least 2/3rds, beginning is somewhat dry, pacing improves once le guin stops building up the setting of the planet and allows the plot to move. If you don't like it by then don't read dispossessed either.

Why is moby dick all over the place on terms of style and why in the world doesn't it ruin it?
Once its prose, then it's drama and then it turns into a scientific paper about whales or meaning of colour white in world and its effects on people
How did melville do it that this mess is so enjoyable?

I've been trying for a couple of weeks to read Adorno and I'm making absolutely no progress whatsoever. I find the concepts interesting, but the writing is just dull and inaccessible. Then, I pick up a Bill Bryson book, and easily finish the whole thing in a few days, finding it very enjoyable.

Am I just doomed to a life of midwittery? Does anybody actually enjoy reading high-brow literature?

>>16173934
download android emulator and programs .apk

>>16174771
Bump

>>16177859
What are you trying to read and for what purpose?

Hey /lit/, ive been reading a decent bit of aristotle lately, since i have taken an interest in morals and their nature. So i decided i might aswell buy some more books regarding it, and i was wondering what you would recommend. Im getting the Republic, and i was thinking of either getting some Kant or Nietszche, but im unsure how i should proceed. With Nietszche id get the Genealogy of morals, as ive heard its an easier read than Beyond good and evil.

Any books about schizods?

>>16179356
>using Wikipedia as a source

Cmon Anon, your teachers have been telling you for years that Wikipedia isn't a reliable source.

If you need an alternative, get yourself a library card (are libraries open yet)

>>16181197
Double blind studies have shown Wikipedia is just as reliable as academic sources. Teachers and academics tell students not to use it because they can't come to terms with the fact they have spent thousands of hours reading to learn things that can be understood through a few hours of reading on Wikipedia.

When you think about the academic stigma surrounding the worlds largest receptacle of human knowledge, its actually quite disgusting. Universities just don't want to come to terms with the fact they are wasting money on their pointless and antiquated libraries.

>>16181162
Notes from the Underground

>>16181223
Was he really one?

>>16181162
>Go see Doctor
>"have to ever heard, or seen anything that wasn't actually there?"

How would I know?

>>16181120
Read Aristotle, Epictetus, Bentham, Mills, Kant, Hume, Rawls, Foucault, Nietszche, Sterner and Kropotkin. Probably best in that order. You should probably read some secondary sources while you read them too, if you're new to ethics, it will help you understand the concepts in plainer language.

>>16181252
Thanks! Its a bit tough to find secondary sources in my language, so i guess il have to resort to english ones. I just prefer reading it all in one language as translating philosophical terms can get a bit tricky.

>>16166659
Please elaborate

>>16181302
Certain philosophers are simply more difficult to read than others, so don't get put off by that. For example, Aristotle and Kant are a lot more difficult to read than Mills and Kropotkin. You're correct about the Genealogy of Morals being an easy read though, I read it when I was new to ethics, understood it and really enjoyed it, even though Nietzsche isn't one of my preferred philosophers.

Is The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir worth reading or is it just edgy feminist garbage? Does it offer any interesting insight?

>>16162511
Fictionfags are all femboys and nonfictionfags are all fat slobs
No middle term, you either are one of those or you aren't /lit/

>>16181654
It's worth reading, as are On the Vindication of the Rights of Women and the Beauty Myth. There are lots of feminists works that are worth reading, even if you aren't a feminist, to gather insights or simply because they present interesting points of views.

One of the worst things about large portions the right is their refusal to read anything that might challenge their belief or have a theme or premise they don't agree with.

>>16181120
It sounds like you'd like MacIntyre's After Virtue

>>16181162
Fanged Noumena probably. By a schizoid not about one though

>>16181718
Thanks bro

Any great books under 300 or so pages?
I'm going on vacation with friends and don't want to carry along giant thick books.
It might look a bit weird and it won't really be relaxing

>>16181747
Notes from underground.

>>16181747
There are literally thousands of good books under 300 pages. What sort of book are you looking for?

>>16181760
Any interesting fiction/non-fiction I feel like I can't be to specific in genre since I'm just looking for a good story to read when I have some down time in the evening or by the lake.

>>16181797
Prisoners of Geography is an interesting book. It's an easy read and you don't need to know much about the subject to enjoy it. It will help you understand the news more and why things in the world happen the way they do.

>>16181747
Chess Story, Stefan Zweig

>>16166990
Lmao what a king

>>16181850
>>16181816
>>16181759
Perfect.
I'll read these three, thanks lads

How do I stop suffering?

I already meditate.

>>16181676
Good thing i‘m a poetryfag.

Fuck this thread and the redditors that keep it alive i’m unsubscribing from /r/QTDDTOT
I will only occasionally come back to collect a couple of the questions and post them to the board proper

>>16181213
>Double blind studies have shown Wikipedia is just as reliable as academic sources.
Proof?

>>16181747
Just get a Paperwhite, dummy.
They are shit cheap, and let you read your erotic fanfics while hiding your power level.

>>16181915
Stop meditating and start praying to Christ.

>>16181915
Depends on why you‘re suffering. Care to elaborate?

>>16182010
I was brought up as a Christian, everything about the community was toxic. Had to abandon the cult.
I had an atheist phase, now I'm coming back to faith just not Christianity.

>>16182043
Same. Good thing religion is only the unnecessary cancer of spirituality.

>>16182021
I wish I knew why. I don't lack anything, it's the mundane life that we're all living. I've been feeling the weight of it more lately.

>>16182063
How does your suffering manifest? Do you lack energy, withdraw from people, feel sad, empty or angry, or are you even suicidal?

>>16162511
>been reading some novels/ fantasy
>also read the 3 big chinese philosophers to prepare for a job
>also read some self-development books but find myself not getting much out of them
I'm now contemplating if I should keep reading advice/ selfdev books until something sticks or if I should pick up more philosophy. If the latter, which Greek one should I pick up first?

>>16176951
This. Life is about dumping as much as your time and hard work as possible into prolonging the pleasure of billionaires and politicians.

>>16182043
You need to learn about Orthodoxy, not just Christianity. It's the only true, unchanged faith, everything else is heretical. It's rigid and on the surface seems elitist, but it's done to preserve the authenticity of the dogma.

If I could suggest a lecture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4LDDkcWCE&t=83s

>>16182076
Self help is philosophical principles in easily digestible language and with ideas on how to implement them. Either that appeals to you or you go directly to the source. Personally i find it doesn‘t matter where you got the idea from as long as it helps.

>>16181654
It's good but one sided. Beauvoir generally only sees the negative limitations and impositions on women's free self-expression by men. She doesn't focus nearly as often about how women actively participate in their own limitation. Wollstonecraft is better for that like the other anon said. She talks more about how women will have to surrender their "privilege."

Paglia is good too. So is Esther Vilar's Manipulated Man and Norah Vincent's Self-Made Man.

>>16182075
Yea, I'm withdrawing from people even those that should be close to me (my wife, family). They all feel like a massive drain to me.
Empty could be the word, yes, lack of meaning.
I'm still working for the betterment of my family every single day, piece by piece.
Maybe I'm just not seeing the fuit of my labor

Fagles Illiad isn't supposed to look like this is it?

>>16182125
How long have you been married? Do you feel like it has gotten gradually worse since the start of the relationship? Don‘t worry, i‘m not going to hate on women or relationships, i just experienced a similar thing but was able to solve it so i‘m trying to find out if my insights could help you in your situation.

>>16182087
Thank you very much, I will look into it.
I was always attracted to Orthodoxy, I can speak Russian and Serbian yet I'm neither of these.

I'm a product of Evangelical churches. I guess you understand the shortcomings of such doctrines.

>>16182046
Organised religion isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing. Without religion, spirituality would be relegated to hippies worshipping nature because they went on a nice hike once.

>>16182144
Married about a year, been with my wife for 5y and we have an eight moth yo baby son.

It's getting worse since we got a child. She's slowly transforming into a vampire yet I won't quit the situation, my son needs me.
If it weren't for him I'd break the relationship in a minute.

Waiting for a better time

>>16182157
What‘s so bad about worshipping nature and going on hikes? Sounds pretty based to me in comparison to drinking jesu‘s blood and praying ave marias.

>>16182147
Then it's perfect for you. As an American I feel like our country was set up to fail, being founded on Protestant/Enlightenment values. Learning about Orthodoxy completely changed my perspective on the world, particularly the West's worship of reason. I'm learning Russian myself but have a long way to go.

>>16181930
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

>>16182179
Do you feel like this is a big part of why you‘re suffering? How has your relationship changed because of getting married and having a baby? What does she do that make her feel like a vampire to you?

>>16182132
I'm not sure, but I'm currently reading The Illiad for the first time and I'm really not enjoying it. I'm not new to reading, I normally read philosophy and non-fiction, but its just so long winded and boring. I know it's supposed to be read philosophically and as a historic or religious text, but I'm really finding it to be a slog.

>>16182203
Don't get me wrong, I love hiking too, but worshipping nature itself is pretty dumb from a theological point of view. It's little more than primitive religion. Organised religion has provided the context for philosophers to work over centuries to understand the true nature of God.

So I've never really been super into philosophy, but I am intrigued by the work of Jean Baudrillard and Nick Land (mainly S+S and Fanged Noumena). What works do I need to fully understand before reading these texts to get a full experience?

>inb4 start with the greeks

>>16181107
It was somebody's (not Dostoevsky's) foreword to Crime and Punishment where it was compared to some French novels and the Gospel of John. However now that I'm actually reading Dostoevsky, it's easier.

>>16182212
>Why yes I do make it convenient for users to cite myself as a source of my own reliability

>>16182206
>particularly the West's worship of reason.
I'm absolutely sick of it. It's a poison I don't (yet) have an antidote against. This is one of the reasons for my suffering.

>learning Russian
Great! What a language! Next step is learning OCS and chanting old Slavonic liturgy songs.

https://youtu.be/SnPoMvJm_cE

>>16182233
The point of worshipping nature isn‘t to worship a tree or a rock. The point is to worship nature as god‘s presence and creation.

>>16182233
>It's little more than a primitive religion

What's your point? Just describing it isn't an argument, if a theological viewpoint is more complex, does that mean it's more accurate?

>>16182214
Yes. As I said, I'm distancing myself from her as much as I can.
From her part it's usually the demands that never end and some of those are not necessary. They're always framed as something needed for the baby so I end up being a total jerk if I don't comply. I confronted her a few times but the discussion just doesn't go anywhere. She becomes this irrational emotional wreck and I just leave the scene.

Friends tell me this is natural for a woman. She needs more than enough to provide for a baby and she'll do everything to suck that out of me.

It's the dissonance between herself now and before the baby that bothers me.

>>16182280
What was she like before the baby?
I agree that it is normal as in it is widespread, it is not healthy or sane though. There is something going on and i think i can see trough it a bit but i‘d need some more informations first. Can you also tell me a bit about how your sex life has changed over the years? What was it like in the beginning compared to now?

>>16182292
>What was she like before the baby?
Loving, caring, committed to her work.
We had spare time to spend, we went hiking, running, swimming in rivers.
All gone now (naturally).

The first year was like it always is.. during the first year. Wild.
It became what's considered normal later on. We've been having sex during the pregnancy and after the birth. Just not as much as before and I think we're both ok with it, we're much more tired now.

>>16182329
Have you noticed a decline in her interest to have „wild“ sex in pregnancy and especially after giving birth way over childbed? Maybe we should take this to adv. If you feel like it, you can make a thread there. I‘m pretty sure i can help you a lot with this. I‘ve been in the exact same situation two years ago.

>>16182351
>Have you noticed a decline in her interest to have „wild“ sex in pregnancy and especially after giving birth way over childbed
Yes. Isn't this to be expected?

>If you feel like it, you can make a thread there.
Thanks but no need to.
How did your situation unfold?

>>16182253
In which case you're not worshipping nature, but God. That's not what I'm talking about.

>>16182259
It depends upon the nature of the complexity. It's more accurate if it's more philosophically coherent

>>16178147
Caesar and Christ by Will Durant goes over both Republican Rome and the Empire up until right before Constantine.

>>16182368
>Isn't this to be expected?
Yes but for quiet different reasons than you might think.
Which makes it necessary to ask what you think is the reason this happens?

I thought we could discuss it there as to not derail this thread too much, but it‘s not necessary.

I‘ve been married for 3 years, dating also since 5. Kid is 2,5 now.
We gradually sapped all energy out of each other, sex became a chore at best and divorce was a reoccurring theme. Now we got to a point where it feels even better than when we first got together. It‘s really amazing.

>>16181213
I personally have found some of my favorite subjects through Wikipedia, and then I use it as a jumping off point for some non-fiction literature. I also use Wikipedia’s footnotes and citations for further reading if I am writing a paper. Citing Wikipedia articles are shameful though.

>>16182441
>Which makes it necessary to ask what you think is the reason this happens?
At first it's her changing body. I won't bang her brains out against my unborn child, right?
Now we simply lack time and energy. We still do it and it's great.

>Now we got to a point where it feels even better than when we first got together. It‘s really amazing.
How?

>>16182487
What does she say about the situation?
Have you talked to her about it?

>how?
By finding out what the hell happened and getting rid of it.

>>16182368
> Yes. Isn't this to be expected?
There's a reason why the ancient Hebrews didn't practise sex during pregnancy and three years after. (Then again, they had polygamy...)

>>16182654
Imagine the cuckoldry that happened to the householders, the bitches are horny af during the pregnancy.

>>16162511
Is it possible to justify being an idealist? It seems most philosophers nowadays hold the position of non-skeptic realism.

>>16162511
How do I convince a seller on eBay to lower his price for rare books? There is another copy that is like 40$ less with free shipping, but it only has a picture of the cover and not the actual book. He had it way below market price before but I was being an idiot and waited.

>>16164023
nerd start with Socrates's trial

is being in a relationship worth it?

>>16164023
I feel like logos should be much earlier and is mostly an extension of the sophists
Menexenus is a parody and Euthydemus is 50 pages of jibberish

I have no passion or purpose in life. What book should I read for this feel?

>>16181587
He's talking nonsense
A prototype of the idea has existed since the epic of Gilgamesh and Chomsky's one positive contribution to the world settled the case
Structuralism and its spawns are all retarded, no better than saying "and that happened because God willed it"

>>16181654
De Beauvoir was a sadistic child-molester that was a submissive little bitch on the side

Thoughts?

>>16162815
Audible is good if you go through your library slowly and use the system right. Obviously don't use your once a month point on a 5 dollar book when your subscription is 11/mo. They also have deals often where you can get 2 for 1 but most of the options are shit.

>>16183744
crime and punishment

>>16184356
i thought he died in a helicopter crash wth

Should I keep my diary and my short stories/poetry in the same journal or keep them separate?

To the Speed-readers,
Is 20 pages an hour normal?
I’m reading the Histories while troubled by regression and subvocalisation, yet my fixations are well.
>inb4 it is
Then I’d like to be better than that

>>16182132
Same issue friend
That is the ‘deluxe edition’
The regular would be easier to read at the cost of the spine creasing

>>16186838
Pages are not a good metric when trying to know how fast you're reading. Instead start calculating how many wpm(words per minute) you're reading.

>>16169263
If there were, why would you believe them?

What book can I read that will help me get my shit together?

>>16176603
>>16178888
Bump

>>16162511
I can't remember the name of this book.
It's about a boy who was supposed to get superpowers, like his friends and family, on his birthday but he didn't. He was checking for superpowers every morning by stuff like measuring his height or lifting weights. He goes to a school for superheroes (I think?), and on his birthday his school gets attack by some monster or something. I stopped reading right there for whatever reason.
Some more details: The book was very likely to have been published prior to 2012.
The book was also very likely to have been narrated in first person.
There probably had at least one male character and one female character, both students, who get involved in the attack scene of the book. I remember there being a distinct lack of adults actually shown in the story so far, so I doubt there were any teachers in the classroom.
If I had to guess the intended audience's age, it would be for kids 10 - 14.
Unlikely, but I think I remember one student from another class who was overdoing it with the hero act and trying to take charge of the situation. I think he had a sword? Don't focus on this one too much, it is a very vague memory and probably inaccurate.

I want to live a comfy life as a librarian in Spain. What are my chances? How could I go about achieving that? The speaking Spanish part is already covered.

I would just like to take a moment to thank you all for being my friends.

>>16187910
This is not bad, sure the guy will start looking more handsome as he gets older, age makes some men look better, more masculine.

>>16187475
...Have you tried looking at Spanish job websites for roles in libraries?

>>16187910
He would look better if he shaved his head and i agree, age will help.

>>16186995
Since it‘s already damaged i‘d put a case on to hold it together.

>>16186872
Roughly 600 words for a minute at times, but the regressions turn it back to 100, then confidence is lost and it goes to 50 wpm
>>16188206
>the apostrophe
Was geht es dir in Deutschland?

>>16182132
like what? are you talking about the deckled edge?

Should I read in my native language (Dutch) or should I read in English?
I was thinking that English might be better because there are more and better translations.
But I'm also at this point where I'm getting better at English than I'm at Dutch, which is worrying.

>>16183662
Yes

>>16162815
AudioBook Bay - it's free
I made an account and it hasn't failed me yet, I go through audiobooks fast and audible is too expensive for me

is Jung a good start to psychology? I've only read one book from Frankl. Do I start with the red book?

>>16188608
If it's written originally in English, read in English. Otherwise I read in my language when possible

>>16188704
Yeah, it's a good start. You really don't need to read the Red Book - it's a literary depiction of Jung's own fantasies. The Portable Jung is a good place to start with.

>>16188704
To general psychology not so much.
Freud's General Introduction into Psychoanalysis lectures are a good start and Jung's Man and His Symbols is good route use.

As a side read with Freud's lectures, Stephen Grosz's The Examined Life is pretty good as a "lighter" read.

>>16188728
Good recs, but you don't need to read Freud to read Jung.

>>16188740
In his essays, Jung often refers to Freud's ideas, so it's good to have a basic grasp since Jung doesn't bother explaining much and is somewhat obscure in his writing.

>>16188756
It's true that Jung refers to Freud in his early/middle writings, but I've found he explains all the background you need though. Not sure what you mean by "obscure" as he is usually very clear (aside from his alchemical writings perhaps).

>>16188768
I read some of the collected works from Symbols of Masculine, and it takes him an aeon before he gets to something mildly interesting.
It's a good collection though, has some interesting stuff on homosexuality.

>>16188583
>Was geht es dir in Deutschland?
Kek, how did an apostrophe give that away?

>>16188804
I hadn't heard of that collection before. I just read the one I mentioned above (The Portable Jung) and ironically it was like all the interesting stuff condensed. Would recommend.

>>16188634
I just went to check it out but you need an account that isn‘t free. Am i doing something wrong or is it not really free?

>>16188823
Yeah, also another option is to get a Jungian psychoanalyst. There's nothing like it.

What are some good books on the French Revolution and Napoleon?

>>16172508
Bump for this please

>>16181654
>>16181718
>>16182121
Beauvoir was a slut and did nudes. All women want to be her.

>>16188933
Everyone in the French literary scene was a slut