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16157887 No.16157887 [Reply] [Original]

This book you recommended to me is boring as fuck and when reading one story you already read them all.

Here's how every chapter starts off
>Conan is bored
>Trouble finds him
>Fights his way out but gets captured
>Escapes by going full hulk mode
>On the way find some PAWG about to be sacrificed
>Some gay Lovecraft reference
>Save PAWG and ride off to the sunset while giving hints that he claps her cheeks

The only good stories are when he's King and even then those are very few. The rest are just plain boring that go on about how Conan SMASHED his way to victory.

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>>16157887

>> No.16157906

I am honestly surprised that OP had the upper body strength to lift his arms and type this absolute faggotry.

>> No.16157915

>>16157887
Wow, /lit/ gave you an actually good reference for once and you still got filtered, OP I think you’re retarded

Also this >>16157906

>> No.16157920

>>16157887
>/lit/ told you to read genre fiction
Lurk moar retard

>> No.16157940

>>16157906
>>16157915
>>16157899
ITS BORING AND TOO SIMPLISTIC

Stop pretending you read the whole thing like a bunch Howard fangays. The writing is so outdated how can any of you say this is good with a striaght face, "grug smash then grug has sex" Thats it thats all Conan is about.

Now I am reading the Book of The New Sun hat /lit/ also recommended so you guys may redeem yourselves yet.

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>>16157940
>ITS BORING AND TOO SIMPLISTIC
>Stop pretending you read the whole thing like a bunch Howard fangays. The writing is so outdated how can any of you say this is good with a striaght face, "grug smash then grug has sex" Thats it thats all Conan is about.
>Now I am reading the Book of The New Sun hat /lit/ also recommended so you guys may redeem yourselves yet.

>> No.16157953

>>16157920
All you retards ever talk about is the bible and some mainstream sci/fantasy garbage what is there to learn by lurking when it all comes down to you guys having shit taste.

>> No.16157957

Kek. Seems like essential /chadlit/ to me, OP.

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>>16157887
Thank you niggers <3

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>>16157953
>what is there to learn by lurking
To filter out the crap so you don't go and buy some garbage brick of a book lmao

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>>16157887
kek I am one of the anons who recommended it
I always found that a page or 2 of conan was a fine decompression after powering thru a couple hunds of Kant or Heidegger
guess youre ngmi

>> No.16157992

>>16157887
>>16157940
You need to understand that Conan stories existed before TV and comic books. They are basically the mindless action films of literature. The fact that this kind of literature (pulps) no longer profitably exists should tell you something about where the audience went. Criticism of Conan for being mere sex and violence is empty precisely because that was the medium where you would find sex and violence in Howard's era. It is painful and repetitive to read Howard now because things that would be exciting to read in serial pulp format - like similar language and description- are horrible to read in a compilation. Only so many times do you read how Conan is pantherish or how he "plunged" forth without rolling your eyes. But if you were reading it as a pulp, those little things would play like leitmotifs.

>> No.16158025

>>16157887
One important thing to keep in mind when reading Conan is NOT to read the book you posted as it preserve all the editorial changes the horny geezers at Weird Tales made to REHs original manuscripts. Get the Del Rey editions.

>> No.16158038

>>16157887
>marble white pawgs
Yes exactly. There is a few highlights in them though. I really liked the fuckin guy who was imprisoned and tangled up in a vine from hell who sucked the life out of him.

>> No.16158041

>>16158025
Hold on, did Farnsworth Wright edit Conan too?

>> No.16158042

>>16158025
Are the changes significant? Or did they remove all the stuff that would be considered racist

>> No.16158047

>>16158038
Yeah that was a King Conan story some of Howards better work. Seeing Conan just run away from all the monsters and scared shitless was a nice change.

>> No.16158065

>>16157966
I bet you barely finished one of those

>> No.16158078

>>16158065
I didn't read Asimov and Wells, and I must admit that I didn't finish one of Smith's poems because I'm not into poetry.

>> No.16158083

>>16158041
The worst offender is L. Sprague de Camp who rewrote and published unfinished manuscripts as original works by REH.

>>16158042
>did the people who published Lovecraft edit out the racism of the man who wrote about how a mutt is superior to the civilized white man
Take a guess.

The changes are not THAT significant, but the texts are not as original written. And considering REH was one of the Weird Tales authors that really deserved better than to be published in a pulp magazine you really should read his unedited texts for the full experience.

>> No.16158134

>>16157887
conan stories, usually start with action, not boredom.

also that cliché is cliché because it was innovated and set in stone by Conan. You're reading it in 2020 so it sounds boring.

>> No.16158145

>>16158083
I have two of the cheap Heyne editions (german translations) with de Camps texts in it. I just flicked through the first little volume and it has advertising for instant soup in it.

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>>16158145
>it has advertising for instant soup in it
Nice

>> No.16158329

>>16157940
They're serial stories, not meant to be read one after another like one novel

>> No.16158410

>>16157957
This. OP makes it sound based. Combined with a normie bookthot labeling it sexist and racist, that's all the recommendation I need.

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>>16158410
>>16157957

>> No.16158446

I loved Conan, but really couldn’t get into Elric. Maybe the opposite works for you.

>> No.16158452

>>16157887
people on /lit/ are recommending that nowadays? yep, this shit has been invaded by retarded boomers from /pol/ lmao
jesus christ

>> No.16158832

>>16158452
Why don't you go back there yourself instead of shitting up a thread that is actually talking about a book.

>> No.16158851

>>16157887
>surprised that fiction written for teenagers is trash written for teenagers
Why did you even take that recommendation seriously

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>>16157887
They were written for teen American boys during the Great Depression (19302), OP. Of course they're about a man who through simple strength and willpower, can overcome anything. Nobody suggested they were profound literature: they're manly pulp tales with a flavour that was new and unique at the time (sword & sorcery, barbarians and monsters, fantasy world-building) but has since been copied a million times.

>> No.16158902

>>16157966

Nice

>> No.16158907

>>16157980
>I always found that a page or 2 of conan was a fine decompression after powering thru a couple hunds of Kant or Heidegger

This

>> No.16158915

>>16158832
this thread is embarrassing. i can't believe that i'm on /lit/

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>>16158915
Well, I'm sure there are some threads with people endlessly debating religion or randomly insulting women, if you prefer.

>> No.16159110

>>16159012
That's a solid collection, sadly all my horror/gothic/weird/S&S books are scattered around my room because I'm very autistic about colors, so I have the penguins in one shelf, Oxford in another, Wordsworth here, hardbacks there, etc.

>> No.16160059

>>16159110
I ended up with "literature and fiction" alphabetically, but "genre" books get roughly grouped by subject. Of course it's often a bit arbitrary: why should Doyle be genre while Dickens isn't, and what about Collins?

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>>16157887
Alright folks, this is now a
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>> No.16160385

>>16158083
>mutt

Conan is a mutt? I thought he was a pure Cimmerian

>> No.16160448

You just can't appreciate fun stories, OP.

>> No.16160488

I didn't know there were so many hardcovers like that. I have the Conan one and the softcover version of Necrnomicon. Nice collection, anon.