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God caused the big bang.

>>16043407
>The big bang is part of creation

The order of the universe is only intelligible with respect to its death. The 'ordering' of matter, life, cosmos generally as order and ordering, is only possible due to its annihilation. Entropy, or the 'arrow of time' is the accounting of death that leads to compelxity and negentropy in the first place. Negentropy is a feature of entropy maximising systems, it in fact fulfils entropy.

That is, the complexity of life, matter, and other cosmological phenomena are sustained by the inevitable annihilation of cosmos itself. So the big bang isn't strictly speaking the cause of complexity (as BB is an inflation of prior existing infinite energy/being/etc). The death of cosmos is the process of its own generation.

Any discussion of cosmos, 'matter' as particle, life and so on is not rooted in creation at all. The answers are already there. They're in heat death. The real question then is to understand the ontological status of energy, to investigate being, and determine, not how cosmos/life is possible, but how the possibility of it is possible.

The big bang theory and evolution BTFO all religion. All religion is now LARP and changing goalposts.

>>16043422
This will never be a meme, give up already.

> NO NO NO YOU CAN'T INCORPORATE SCIENCE INTO YOUR RELIGIOUS WORLD VIEW, THAT'S GOALPOST MOVING!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN A CHRISTIAN FORMUALTED THE BIG BANG THEORY AND ALL MAJOR SCIENTIFIC CONTRIBUTIONS WERE DONE BY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE?? NO THIS CAN'T BE NOOOOO HAVE THIS SMUG FRUG IM SMUG IM RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG NOOOO!

>>16043428
>>16043458
>>16043486
>>>/x/

>>16043504
Dilate

FUCK YOU THIS SCIENTIST'S BROTHER'S DAUGHTER'S NEIGHBOUR'S DOG'S FATHER'S COUSIN WAS CHRISTIAN. FUCKING TAKE THAT ATHESHIT

>>16043517
Except a lot of scientists (and important ones) were actually religious.
To deny it is some nuclear cope.

>>16043544
The honest ones kept their profession separate from their faith.

>>16043553
This is an incredibly soilent thing to say.
A scientist can be just as motivated by his findings to beleive the universe has design as a religious person can by their religious experience.
Im starting to think you're just a butthurt homosexual who wants to destroy religion because they rightfully know you guys are mentally ill
don't @ me faggot, you got blown the fuck out

>>16043553
Meanwhile, Christian Newton spends much of his career doing Christian chronology and pantheist Einstein: "God does not play with dice". Just the greatest physicists of all time...

>>16043570
Do you even read posts before replying to them?

>>16043466
>t. brainlet

>>16043407
why do you care? does it have any impact on your daily life full of larping, hypocrisy, lies?

>>16043544
>>16043561
They might have been personally religious but in no way shape or form did they combine theology with the scientific theories they produced. Perhaps they wanted to understand God's creation, but if you have to redefine your religion from >god created the world 6000 years ago, crafted all things and kept actively intervening in them to >god causes the spark of the big bang and let everything flow deterministically and it was 14 billion years ago, you've violated your specific religion's beliefs already.

Besides, the unfalsifiable belief there is a creator behind the big bang != proof of the gospel of jesus being correct, or any specific religious doctrine.

>>16043768
>what do you mean your life has no impact on this universe what do you mean you live with hypocrisy and lies on this existence realm built upon suffering where time crawls through the walls of elementary particles where the cries and agony of these particles trying to escape the always growing time are projected through fractals into a macroverse making a single but unbreakable rule someone has to suffer greatly for you to not suffer what do you mean only an evil God if there is one could come up with such a twisted psychopathic creation shame on you truly shame on you

Big Bang was literally conceived by a Catholic, it's still a mythological starting point for something we don't actually have a proper theory for

>>16043797
yikes take your meds

>>16043792
The catholic church and religion is the only one which venerates and worships and follows the omnipotent, eternal all merciful God and is thus the only religion that correctly worships him, making it true. If you made another religion that did the same, it would invariably be an inferior product to catholicism and as such you should join catholicism.

Big Bang has been refuted for being logically retarded, that is, it implies chance in a totality, this means indefinition in what is defined. So yes, there is a God and creation was willed by Him. There is simply no discussion.

How does the big bang prove anything? It isn't even opposed to almost all religious beliefs of creation. Most scientists nowadays also agree that the way we think about the big bang is most likely wrong anyway.

>>16043810
>big bang has be refuted by me for being logically retarded

>>16043808
Yahweh is well known to be an evil demon. If you Catholics had read the Bible, you would know that.

>>16043826
I don't know why the universe was created and neither do you. Suck it fag.

>>16043465
>Entropy, or the 'arrow of time' is the accounting of death that leads to compelxity and negentropy in the first place. Negentropy is a feature of entropy maximising systems, it in fact fulfils entropy.

Elaborate sir

>>16043808
shut the fuck up, every religion that has ever existed believes they are correct, and every denomination of abrahamic religions do as well.

There is NO logical step between
>we cant disprove the universe wasnt created
and
>we follow this desert nigga and he says homosexuality is bad

You just believe what you want to believe because you want to feel self-righteous. You don't belong in spaces that want to examine the world honestly.

>>16043818
It’s also been refuted scientifically. The Big Bang predicts the presence of magnetic monopoles, but this has never been observed in the universe. If the Big Bang really happened, we would have found them by now.

>>16043553
Everyone keeps their profession separate from their faith, you retard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre

>>16043854
You are very ignorant. Every religion is right because they know materialism is false and that God exists and created the world. His creation is reflects himself and our own path to unite with him. Homosexuality is a rupture of the natural symbol of union and generation which reflects creation.

>>16043874
I believe you're quite wrong there. God is a twerking black woman and xe created the universe.

>>16043428
>>16043458
Based, anyone who disagrees is a Rick and Morty watching Gen X faggot

>noooooo you can't just change your religion in anyway it has to be the same way it was 2000 years ago for me to criticize nooooo
Cope harder.

You can say it does mean you are right tho.

discussing the existence of god doesnt go anywhere, besides no lie would outweigh the importance of shared religious morals xD

>>16043428
God was simply bored when he made us.

>>16043923
Homosexuality has been demonstrated to be a trait from birth. Even the catholic church acknowledges that. So update your religion or die

>>16043466
Thinking that evolution in any way goes against the existence of a God is the best way to spot an illiterate brainlet. Someone who thinks this probably has not even read On the Origin of Species, in which Darwin makes numerous references to a creator.
The very first thing they tell you on evolutionary biology courses at university is “there is no conflict between evolution and belief in God”. Though evolution does btfo retarded literalists who would’ve been considered stupid a thousand years ago.

>>16044101
No one condemns or persecutes "homosexuality".

>>16044101
Just like any other deformation? And it is not exclusively congenital, I think the majority even becomes gay because they have a prostrate and like the feeling of it being estimulated.

>>16043854
> it all boils down to my badfeels about my degenerate sexual lifestyle choices, always
Hope you die of AIDS soon, faggot.

>>16044101
so what ? so is pederasty

>>16044101
Explain prison gay then

woah dood you ever think what if IM the only one that really exists and YOU'RE all part of my imagination!!!!!!

>>16043407
The guy who made that theory was a priest.

>>16043428
Is this achievable natty?

>>16044191
Yeah it does because evolution necessitates hundreds of millions of years of life which is counter to the biblical 6,000 year fantasy myth.

Cult of modernity fags are incapable of seeing things in any context other than sets of pure causal materiality, and as a result can't imagine why it is that religious people have no issue with changing material contexts. It's about the meaning of it all, creating a perfect sequence of events has no real effect on that.

I ain't even religious.

>>16045172
He just said literalists dont count, can you read?

>>16043808
>The catholic church and religion is the only one which venerates and worships and follows the omnipotent, eternal all merciful God
Islam does this to a greater degree than Catholicism

>>16045161
50 hail marys before and after bed every day

>>16044191
> in which Darwin makes numerous references to a creator.
Doesn’t matter. He was also a raging racist. Unlike philosophy where you retards are completely incapable of separating the good and bad ideas from a philosopher, science doesn’t work that way. His only contributions to science are what he can empirically proves. Einstein may be the greatest scientist we’ve ever known, single handedly remaking the entirety of hundreds of years of work I modern physics. He was still wrong about quantum mechanics and thought fucking your cousin was cool beans.
>The very first thing they tell you on evolutionary biology courses at university is “there is no conflict between evolution and belief in God”
Lol you literally never went to an accredited college. Are they even allowed legally to mention God in a biology class at a public institution? Either way you’re a fucking moron.

>>16045242
I literally stopped reading at the word “racist”

>>16045242
>He was also a raging racist.
Irrelevant.
>Unlike philosophy where you retards are completely incapable of separating the good and bad ideas from a philosopher
False
>science doesn’t work that way.
False
>His only contributions to science are what he can empirically proves
False and not even grammatically correct.

>>16043407
>>16043466
Imagine being this fucking illiterate

>>16045263
>>16045268
Of course it’s irrelevant. That’s the entire fucking point dip shits.

>>16045242
>Einstein thought fucking your cousin was cool beans
Literally prove him wrong. How are you a godless heathen and a moralist at the same time?

>>16045242
>Einstein may be the greatest scientist
Why do people keep repeating this endlessly? There were multiple people right on his heels during the same time period. At best he may have saved a few years of time. He was no Newton.

>>16046428
Everyone else but Einstein was working at the problem of unifying mechanics and electromagnetism from an ether-based perspective. Relativity is all Einstein.

>>16045161
nope, only a supernatty can create something from nothing.

>>16043863
Give me one source that says this.

>>16043810
Damn this board really is full of religious nutjobs and morons lmfao.

>>16043830
The patterns and swirls in a plume of cigarette smoke are ordered phenomena, but their "order" maximises the global dissipation of heat in the smoke plume. In this way the intricate patterns in a plume of cigarette smoke are not order per se but ordering. This ordering is a fulfilment of global disorder. The overall dissipation of heat in the system is maximised by local instances of order. Cosmos (or the ordering of energy into complex material relations) is a feature of global disorder. Cosmos' annihilation in heat death is the very process that generates the ordering of cosmos. The ordering of cosmos, of complex matter, and even life, is an accounting of death. In the cosmic promise of death we are given life, ordering, beauty, matter. But this ordering, rather than being a challenger of death, is in fact its greatest champion.

When you understand the above, you should no longer feel nihilistic, or despairing when you think about heat death. This understanding is also the first step in asking the real questions, which are questions of being, and the unanswered question of the ontology of energy, if there is such a thing.

>>16043465
I didn't bother reading this beyond the first three sentences which are rambling, hollow, and vapid.

If you aren't GPT-3 posting, then you're a retard

>>16043810
Are you genuindly retarded or just don't understand the big bang theory? It wasn't something coming from nothing. It was the infinitesimal small universe expanding rapidly.

>>16045268
>"f-false!"
Cope harder

>>16046756
the point is that people attribute chance to it, learn to read

>>16043504
based. godfags are coping so hard

>>16046775
>Cope harder
False

>>16046558
And then a few decades later after einstein "disproved" ether, it became dark matter

>>16046428
You may actually be retarded. There were precisely 0 people on his heels. Do you know how rare it is for a field in science to be completely overturned by a completely new model. Even further still, to overturn a model as tested as Newton’s laws? This is one of thr most ignorant and idiot things I’ve seen this week, and I even spent some time on pol
>He was no Newton
Newton wouldn’t even make top ten. Since you want to play the “on their heels game” Leibniz was fucking standing on him in creating the math that would describe so much of the world. And his theory of gravitation, while far reaching, was actually a fairly simple idea that undeniably would have been discovered likely sooner but at least later.

>>16044101
So?
Is not psychopathy a trait from birth?
What about schizophrenia?

>>16047015
>Instagram thots make more money
lmao imagine devoting 30 years of your life to {{science}} to improve lives and then an insta thot comes along and makes more money in a week than you in 30 years

>>16047336
That’s true of any field. Kim kardashian is wealthier than all but a couple thousand or so people. The average electrician probably out earns the average philosophy degree holder. The average oils worker probably tripled them. It’s almost as money isn’t a direct measure of your contribution to society.

>>16043826

>if catholics read the Bible

That's where you kike loving evangelicals succeeded, right? Choke on a cock. No catholic has ever had to read the Bible and no catholic will

>omg le science and le logic
>NOOOOOO I CANT LOGICALLY EXPLAIN THAT STOP ASKING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16047595

I un ironically hate science. As a discipline, it's a fucking whore. She'll fuck and shit on anyone. No morality. Not an honest cunt. Just fuck her and don't get attached.

>>16047608
science is a tool to understand how matter works, thats it. It says nothing about anything else and anyone who tries to say it does is not making a scientific statement. The kind of atheists screeching in this thread are people who read wikipedia articles about black holes and thats it

>>16047631
Holy shit, scientific illiterates are everywhere on this board.

>>16047657
Holy shit, logical positivism is not science you midwit faggot

>>16046747
>no rebuttal

>>16045242
>thought fucking your cousin was cool beans.
There is literally nothing wrong with this.

Atheism is the homosexual's way of coping.

>>16043486
>A CHRISTIAN FORMUALTED THE BIG BANG THEORY

How did science manage to stray away from its Christian roots, then?

>>16045209
Wrong, for Islam does not recognize and accept the freedom from death the son of the One and Omnipotent and Eternal God came to grant us in his sacrifice. Islam is incomplete ideology and they're satan worshippers

>>16043797
Imagine thinking that atheism somehow absolves the universe. "It's better because there's no one to blame!" What is there to blame? Why is the world around you bad? Why would an evil God create this universe, if an evil God would send us all to Hell (as opposed to your definition of good God, which is someone who sends everyone to Heaven). I don't think you have the authority to call God evil, or act as if He being "good" has some basis in your secular ideas. Why is it necessary for an evil God to have created this creation? Let's argue

>>16043854
>You just believe what you want to believe because you want to feel self-righteous
Wrong. Even naturalist psychologists have more good faith than you; we evolved to believe in Gods because they tickle our immortality bone, give us meaning for which to live our lives. Atheists settle for less, which is also why more secular countries have less crime. The people living in them are effete, they couldn't even conceive of disobeying the law, much less actually going forth and stealing something or killing someone. They're too weak to prove they're morally superior to the Christians whose God they don't need to be moral, supposedly (by moving the goal posts of what it means to be moral to accept homosexuality and all such legal vices and decadence).

>>16044101
Show me the studies.

>>16045172
It's also counter to whatever theory scientists will come up with in the future, and so on, and so forth.

>>16046706
Why should you no longer despair? Because you deem heat death an ordering? Explain this in greater detail

>>16047464
As if every scientist is an Einstein. A lot of scientists seem like Kim Kardashians, they perform experiments and write articles that influence people and their behavior. There's a homosexuality gene? Now, homosexuality is 100% normal and must be not only tolerated, but also whole-heartedly accepted.

>>16049253
How did it stray? Christianity and science's theories can always be reconciled.

>>16043950
More that he wanted some to love and to love Him imo. He is eternally alone in some sense remember.

>>16043407
I'm agnostic but the the concept of the big bang is fucking retarded. God existing is more probable, and that says a lot.

>>16050780
So God was this Persian song-bird faggot all along?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kijpcUv-b8M

>H-H-HOW COULD YOU IMPLY THAT SCIENCE AND CHRISTIANITY COULD BE RECONCILED!!! IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SCIENCE PROVED THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS REAL AND GENDER IS NONE-EXISTANT, THERE'S NO COMING BACK TO CHRISTIANITY AFTER THAT!

>>16049992
If you admit that a belief in god in genetically hardwired as an immortality instinct then you're no longer truly faithful, so stop trying to run sociery to a barbaric doctrine.

>if yoy believe in god youre strong and if you dont then youre effete!!!!!
Nice long soipost, however even this is admitting to ultimate atheism and using faith as a means to an end.

God is dead, and you're a necromancer.

>>16045161
>roids bad
Kill yourself.

>>16049992
Its been pretty fucking widely known for the last 50 years that homosexuality is natural, why don't you go and read a book? Even the catholic church admits it. It is present very commonly even among animals, so moralise it all you want but yoy cannot called it a sin against nature since it is clearly a natural instinct made by god, the same joker that put a g spot in male but not female anuses.

>HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL SO IT IS SANCTIONED BY GOD! SO IS THE CAPACITY TO BECOME ADDICTED, OUR TENDENCY TO VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL PROMISCUITY, IT'S NATURAL?
>SIN?? WHAT DO YOU MEAN SIN?? NOOOOOO WHAT IS THIS, IT'S PART OF YOUR CORPUS? NOOOOOO IT'S A LIE EVERYTHING NATURAL IS GOOD AND CHRISTIAN NOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN MEN ARE SINFUL NOOOOOOOOOO

>>16051209
Its christian brainlets themselves who insist homosexuality is a 'sin against nature', assuming arrogantly that its not what nature does. Sorry science keeps BTFOing your faith.

>>16051222
It is a sin against nature, because it is going off from your design. Sorry, just because mutations happen it does not make them natural as in NATURAL TO YOUR DESIGN. We have this concept called error.
Next time remind yourself you're God's mistake, faggot.

>>16043407
>NOOOOO YOU MUST ACCEPT MY SCIENCE RELIGION DOGMAS AS ULTIMATE TRUTHS

>>16051244
>Sorry, just because mutations happen it does not make them natural as in NATURAL TO YOUR DESIGN
I lost 10 IQ points just by reading this

>>16051260
Sorry you're unable to comprehend design, it's actually quite common among homosexuals considering their disposition.

>>16051270
If mutation wasn't natural none of us would exist.

>>16051244
Are you aware we aren't designed for marriage, absistence or any such other silly human constructs?

Christniggers keep fluctuating between a nature fallacy and bashing nature, without even understanding it properly

>>16051276
If everyone was homosexual everybody would have shit on their dicks

>>16051281
God sanctioned it and made it for men. There is no social constructs for waht was created by God.
Sorry you're little peasant stirnered brain is incapable of recieving God's wisdom, but hey, there's lessons for the autists who can't believe in God that helps them fix it.

>>16051296
>God sanctioned it and made it for men. There is no social constructs for waht was created by God.
What are you talking about? the male anal g-spot?

>>16051316
God already established that anal sex is abominable you stupid faggot, go read the bible.

>>16051316
tbqh though why does that exist..

>>16043407
The priest/physics proffesor who first created the theories of the "primeval atom" and universal expansion was initially dismissed offhand by his secular peers who thought he was just trying to justify his belief in creation ex nihilo. When they realized he was right they gave credit to his discovers to Hubbel because it was embarrassing to admit that a priest was a better scientist than they were.

>>16051324
Then why did god put such a tender g-spot in every boy's hole? is it not god's will to make use of what he created? did he intend it for your godly and submissive wife to stimulate with her finger?

>>16051296
>sub little cuck slave whose daddy dead stickjew holds the key to his little cuck cage
Begone vile necrophile cuck fetishist. I will not allow you to convert me to your sick fetish.

>>16051380
>[my bull] sanctioned it and made it for me. There is no social construct for what was created by [my bull].

>>16051344
Why did God give us the ability to become addicted?
Why did God give Cain the ability to slay Abel?
Why this, why that?
Do you think I'm God to to like to be able to answer all these questions? I'm not even well versed in the bible, I'm just a sinful creature making his way in this world.

>>16051324
>God wrote The Bible
woah, how big was his pen?

5 and every wojakposter who posted ITT has their mother die from COVID by the end of 2020

>>16043428
I mean the entire theory was postulated by a Catholic priest, and the idea that there was a singular beginning of time and space fits perfectly within Christian theology.

>>16051500
My problem is christians advocating for naturalism that isn't based on factual understanding of nature.

>>16051569
Nature implying design and proper use of design you brainlet.

>>16043465
Imagine viewing impermanence and change as destructive.
This post brought to you by process gang.

The big bang doesn't address the universe coming into being, just supposes that it did. Much like Christianity.

>>16052307
>coming into being
What makes you assume that it needs to? Nothing but your unquestioned metaphysical assumptions.

>>16049992
>Why should you no longer despair? Because you deem heat death an ordering? Explain this in greater detail

I have, twice, idiot.

>>16049992
>Imagine thinking that atheism somehow absolves the universe.
"absolve" big words for a universe that deserves to be destroyed
>"It's better because there's no one to blame!"
i never said there's no one to blame i said why would you worship a god that created a universe based on suffering maybe it was the only way maybe it wasn't
>What is there to blame?
everything look around you the whole universe is based on predatory/prey behaviour starting from elementary particles

>Why is the world around you bad?
the world being bad is just a reflection of the how the universe is meant to work
>Why would an evil God create this universe, if an evil God would send us all to Hell (as opposed to your definition of good God, which is someone who sends everyone to Heaven).
heaven/hell is another example of this repulsive twisted universe heaven must predate from hell so it can sustain their level of happiness both are reflections of the same coin
>I don't think you have the authority to call God evil or act as if He being "good" has some basis in your secular ideas.
As a inhabitant of this universe and intelligent observer i do have the authority to call out this creation evil
>Why is it necessary for an evil God to have created this creation?
"necessary" we can speculate many things

>>16051244
Anon, please stop saying homosexuals and its practice are against nature. They are sinful but they are also natural, just like other sins are natural. It does not mean obviously that if it is natural it is acceptable, but man has divine faculty to stand against sin and his animal nature.
>>16051222
Yeah nature slays, killing is natural in its kingdom. You people really want us to become literal animals dont you?

>>16052241
There is no 'proper design' for us and we don't keep fidelity to our ape biology you brainlet fuck goblin, otherwise we wouldnt abstain from premartal sex either, your religion was fabricated before modern zoology so they claimed what was natural was whatever the fuck they wanted, but its clear that its now bullshit with modern empiricism. when will all you smoothbrain kiddie fiddlers die?

>>16052897
>Yeah nature slays, killing is natural in its kingdom. You people really want us to become literal animals dont you?

Back in the day christians claimed the path of god was natural and homosexuality is a conscious abomination. Now you've been shown that what is natural contradicts god in every capacity and you're against animalism now. And that's what I mean by religion moving goalposts every time science destroys its key tenants. You change your justification of a doctrine that increasingly reveals itself to be arbitrary until your faith will be too abstract to falsify, like
>god was the starting spark of the big bang and theres no way to disprove that!!!!

>>16046668
https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Watson/Watson4_4.html

>One finds they would be the dominate matter in the universe. This is contrary to the fact that no monopole has ever been observed, directly or indirectly, by humans.

There are plenty of other problems with the Big Bang, but this is one of the biggest that physicists just sweep under the rug.

>>16051196
fyi rapings are present very commonly among ducks

>>16051196
>homosexuality is natural
There is nothing natural about sticking a dock up a man’s ass.

>Even the catholic church admits it.
The church that has a Pope that openly contradicts the teachings of Christianity?

>It is present very commonly even among animals
Oh which humans are not. We know the difference between right and wrong. Animals do not. That is why we are different.

>a natural instinct made by god
Again, there’s nothing natural about sticking a dick up an ass.

>put a g spot in male but not female anuses
The primary function of the prostate is not to make anal pleasurable in males. But what the hell. God had a sense of humor. You can’t fault him for that.

>>16052929
>path of god was natural
yes for men it has always been man's nature, or do you think that they meant by it that animals also worshipped god?
>homosexuality is a conscious abomination
yes this is right.

>what is natural contradicts god in every capacity
i don't know how, can you elaborate? never heard about it before
> you're against animalism now
now? i think it has always been established that humans shouldn't behave like animals (and they naturally don't).
>science destroys its key tenants
science was just a craft supported by religion before. it has always been like this. only in the current aera that science separated from religion.
>You change your justification of a doctrine.
when did it happen?
>>god was the starting spark of the big bang and theres no way to disprove that!!!!
whoever says this is not a theist, lol. or very ignorant since big bang is a theory and it explains nothing.

>>16043407
meanwhile atheists in 1949
>NO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THE UNIVERSE BEGAN AND HAS AN END!!! THE UNIVERSE IS INFINITE!!! IF THIS UNIVERSE BEGAN SOMETHING CAUSED IT!!! THIS IS NONSECULAR!!!!!

>>16053119
>what is the CCC model

>>16051196
It is as natural as STDs are.

>reading a book about theoretical physics
>"There is not just one universes, but many that all came from nothing."
>then it just moves as if it didn't just say "came from nothing"

>>16053153
>we don’t know everything
>therefore a magical jew did it

>>16053164
>>we don’t know everything
>but we know it came from nothing

>>16053131
>the universe is infinite but also finite
dumb theory. If it is an infinite loop, the world wouldn't exists in the first place. There has to be the first instance for us to even come into existent even if a loop does exist.

>>16053166
Where are you getting this from? Can you give me a specific quote that says this, or even implies this?

>>16053179
>If it is an infinite loop, the world wouldn't exists in the first place.
That doesn’t make any sense at all

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