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16019895 No.16019895 [Reply] [Original]

I'm not a super smart fellow, but not a dumb one either. Yet when I read pic related, which I was intensely memed into reading by this board, I don't feel I understand anything.

Am I not smart/trying enough or Land is covering platitudes with over sophisticated prose?

>> No.16019904

>>16019895
did you at least read Bataille before you read this? jfc

>> No.16019969

>>16019904
Some. Story of the Eye.

>> No.16020515

>>16019895
why would you read this shit? Land wrote this while he was high. No one that takes Land seriously reads this.
If you want to get into Land read his PhD thesis or Crypto-Current. Don't read Fanged Noumena and don't read Accelerationism shit.

>> No.16020567

>>16019969
Lol. Pleb. Read Visions of Excess, Accursed Share, and Theory of Religion

>> No.16021017

>>16020567

that's even more pleb, read Sur Nietzsche. Even then, the Thirst for Annihilation tries to assimilate Bataille (which in itself is impossible), to overturn the western canon of philosophy. Land says that Hegelianism is the life support machine of Kantianism, and that Bataille is awaiting its malfunction. Start from there.

>> No.16021274

>>16020515
>his PhD thesis
"Heidegger's 'Die Sprache im Gedicht' and the cultivation of the grapheme"? Where can that be downloaded?

>> No.16021308

>>16021274
You'll be able to download it on pdf format in a few months, the transcription is being worked on atm. You might also find pictures of it online on some obscure blog. Or go to Warwick and read it on physical form.

>> No.16021416

>>16021308
how do you know? are you transcribing it? link?

>> No.16021448

>>16019895
>>16019969
>I dont feel I understand anything
>Hasnt read one philosophical work from the philosopher the book was based on
What an embarrassment.

>> No.16021537

>>16021448
If you had read it you'd know it's not so much a book ON Bataille, as it is a Bataillean book. It's not really explaining Bataille, but is a first elaboration of Land's own philosophy, in the spirit of Bataille and pieced together from a lot of quotes of Bataille's Oeuvres complètes. Just as Bataille's On Nietzsche or Deleuze's Nietzsche and Philosophy are more about their own philosophy than Nietzsche's - which is why Land esteems them. (Of course it's good to have an idea what Bataille is about beforehand, yea to have read him, I don't disagree with that. But stil...)

>> No.16021549

>>16021416
i am nick land.

>> No.16021561

>>16021549
Land only knows twitter and blogs. he don't use 4chan.

>> No.16021621

>>16010685
There's already a thread faggot
>>16010685

>> No.16021629

>>16021621
you mean that spam? faggot, atleast people in here talk about the book, not the dumb shit you niggers peddle as Land's philosophy

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16021650

Nice shill thread accfag

>> No.16021664

>>16021537
You haven't negated a thing I've said, so your comment is sorta useless. The book is based on Bataille, just like On Nietzsche and Nietzsche and Philosiphy are based on Nietzsche.

>> No.16021667

>>16021650
>thinks Thirst for Annihilation has any relation to accelerationism
I mean, it's a shit book, but come on nigger

>> No.16021673

>>16021629
What? That thread was first retard. Just use that one

>> No.16021692

What don't you get anon? It's my fave book and I'll help you understand anything you need

"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:

‘God?’

‘Yeah.’

‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’

He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:

‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’

‘So you snuffed him?’

‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’

I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:

There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’

‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’

‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’

‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’

‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.

I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:

‘So God’s dead?’

‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’

The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:

‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’

I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:

‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.

In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."

- Nick Land

>> No.16021702

>>16021692
Oh, look, it's that faggot that spams the same thing over and over again thinking he's smarter than Land!

>> No.16021709

Can a jannie delete this? We don't need two threads for the same shitty book.

>> No.16021716

>>16021709
>one thread is spam the other tries to talk about the book
pick one, anon

>> No.16021725

>>16021702
what? Nick Land is my favorite author.

>> No.16021742

>>16021716
I don't give a fuck about this pseud shit. you fags shouldn't be posting here at all but since you insist keep it to one thread. you've been shitting up the board for years so it's all spam.

>> No.16021752

>>16021742
Yes, you see, there's the fags that seek to spam the same text over and over to make fun of Land (kind of deserved) and then there are the threads, like this one, that try to talk about the book and nothing else on one thread.

>> No.16021787

>>16020515
why not FN? I never read anything by Land (nor any of the philosophers he constantly mention), but I read two texts from there, Meltdown and No Future, and I liked them and I think I sort of get the point he was making. Am I missing something?

>> No.16021801

>>16019895
Nick Land is gibberish. At best it’s a kind of “critical theory poetry,” at worst it’s, well, gibberish. He only got published because there’s a hipster critical theory industry that worships the obscure as attempts to “point to” “truths” “beyond language”.

>> No.16021824

>>16021752

fuck off lad. land's shit and has been board pollution for years. more than one thread smearing the first page right now.

>> No.16021840

>>16021561
yes he does. im him and im on 4chan

>> No.16021863

>>16021787
Read the last essay on FN, you'll see that everything written there leads to nowhere. (Plus it's a drugged up mess)

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16021906

>>16021650
This. Someone needs to make a How to Spot Accfag chart. He's as bad as guenonfag.

>> No.16021942

>>16021840
Post tits

>> No.16021943

>>16021629
>>16021897
how is it spam? it's one of his best quotes and books and it's getting people back into reading Land seriously.
you're just dividing acc with this shit. probably why we can't have space taoism threads anymore.

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16021955

>>16020515
>stop reading Land
>FUCKING READ LAND
Look I posted it again.

>> No.16021973

>>16021943
because it's literally anti-acc-fag posting all that. he's the only one who doesn't like acc he's some pol fag who spams every thread. why do you think every acc thread goes to shit now? they used to be some of the best threads on the board.

>> No.16022012

>>16021955
Yes, you dumb faggot. Just as one would not advice the reading of something as Hegel's poetry, or Kants physical geography. Woudn't expect a dumb nigger like you to get it tho.

>> No.16022020

>>16020567
>not Absence of Myth

>> No.16022023

>>16022012
>Land is comparable to Kant or Hegel
Look at this retard.

>> No.16022040

>>16022023
He isn't, at all. I'm not comparing them, dumb faggot, I'm saying you would not advice someone to read the shitty works of an author.

>> No.16022141

>>16022040
So why do you spend every day telling people to read Land?

>> No.16022149

>>16021973
there's 30 posters in that thread and 14 in this one.

>> No.16022153

>>16022141
I tell people to stop wasting their time reading the shitty works of Land when I see a shitty Land thread, this is because I've wasted my time reading those shitty works.

>> No.16022163

>>16022149
and all of the posts are shitposts.

>> No.16022282

>>16021561
Would he share his thesis with someone if they asked him on twitter?
Usually academics are willing to share their works with them if you ask them directly, but I really don't know if Land still fits the criteria of (ex-)academic who does that.

>> No.16022300

>>16022282
lol, nope. I'd bet he doesen't even have acces to the thesis, nor wants to see it ever again. It's good tho, it's from a time of no drug usage. There are a set of pictures floating around, you could find some people that have them on twiter

>> No.16022303

>>16022163
wrong. we were trying to discuss Land and you fags kept derailing.

>> No.16022312

>>16022300
God I love twitter. people have no clue how important it is to philosophical growth.

>> No.16022324

>>16022312
I hate it. But people move some works and links on the plataform. Asides from that, it's pure shit.

>> No.16022326

>>16021692
This can't be real.

>> No.16022769

>>16022312
elaborate
>or do you jsut mean those twitter accounts that temporarily upload papers others request

>> No.16022801

>>16022769
Nick Land
Mencius Moldbug
Reza Negarestani
All of the top philosophers are on twitter and it raises the discussion level to an extreme level for the next generation.

We're going to see some amazing books coming out of twitter in a few years.

>> No.16022808

>>16022801
This post is clearly bait but Moldbug is not on twitter

>> No.16022845

>>16022801
Have you ever looked at their twitter feeds though?
It is not philosophical. If you could approach them and htey would engage you in your philosophicla queries then perhaps, but this is not some internet stoa.

>> No.16023433

>>16022845
Yeah I have one.