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There has been any philosopher or author whose perspective was simply that humans cannot reach the truth, or something similar to this?

>> No.16013336

>>16013321
That itself is a truth and yes, David Hume. Empiricism is gay and self-refuting.

>> No.16013352

>>16013336
I meant the absolute truth, not individual truths.

>> No.16013415

Skepticism.

>> No.16013419

>>16013321
Yeah

>> No.16013939

>>16013352
The existence of absolute truth would be...?

>> No.16013950

>>16013321
>humans cannot reach the truth
Is that true, though?

>> No.16013953

You'd probably enjoy Pascal a lot, Montaigne too. They were influenced by scepticism in the direction of fideism. Many Jews also have similar ideas about how God isn't some neo-platonist godhead to be reasoned about, he is so outside of creation (as its creator) that our relationship to him has to be personal, the relationship of him choosing to intervene in history through revelation, not philosophical.

Different constitutions seem to find this scepticism/fideism approach pleasant, but I don't quite understand it.

>> No.16013954

>>16013321
Romanticism

Friedrich Schlegel
Schelling

>> No.16013961

>>16013939
The understanding of all individual truths into one single truth about reality in its entirety.

>> No.16013994

>>16013950
Yes, it's an individual truth.

>> No.16014049

>>16013994
So humans can "reach individual truths" but not non-individual truths? What's an example of a sentence that expresses a "non-individual" truth? What are the demarcation criteria used to determine whether a given sentence is in one or the other category of truth?

>> No.16014144

>>16014049
Truth's only divided into many different "individual" truths from a narrow perspective, Anon. With a larger view, all truths are part of one and the same truth. Like a galaxy seems to be one single distant point of light but when you zoom in you notice it consists of hundreds of thousands of stars.

>> No.16014160

>>16014144
I'm not following you. Give some example sentences.

>> No.16014203
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>>16014160
Tbh what he’s talking about seems like new age ideas repacked into pseudophilosophical jargon
I’m on my phone so this is a picture of where I’m sitting instead of smugfreg.jpg

>> No.16014317

>>16013321
Something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_permanence extrapolated well into adulthood and beyond would be fascinating.

>> No.16014328

>>16013321
Damascius

>> No.16014363

>>16013321
ancient skeptics basically were all about that.

Also, based image, love t

>> No.16014369

>>16014363
*i love the look of the early modern period.

>> No.16014425
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16014425

>>16014203
Based

>> No.16014444

>>16013321
There is a line or moral objectivity and humans can only hope to cross back and fourth over it, and may blindly find some version of success but will never be able to know the exact location of this line.

There. It's me. It's part of my moral philosophy.

>> No.16015548
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16015548

Humans cannot reach truth alone, so God had to come down and give it to us

>> No.16015598

>>16013336
It's all we have. Hume wasn't refuting empiricism, he was just pointing its technical limitations. Stop promulgating your pseudery.

>> No.16016776

>>16015598
That's what people say about democracy, anon.

>> No.16016781

>>16013321
Yeah wittgenstein

>> No.16017114

>>16015548
Heya dog, God here, just wanted you the beliver to know that the truth is to paypal me 2 grand, here's my bank account number IL620108000000099999999
ad tip for extra prayer or whatver
If I don't see the money by afternoon, you doomed, your whole family goes to hell, and so does your doggo

>> No.16017378

>>16013321
the incel king

>> No.16017387

>>16013321
Faust?

>> No.16017399

Kant said that we cannot reach the things in themselves.

>> No.16017497

its caĺed absurdism

>> No.16017516

>>16013321
This believe is common in lovecraft stories. And even if human learns he ceases to be human.

>> No.16017640

Skeptics?

>> No.16018234

>>16013321
Nietzche said idols are something that we should just look at, but never touch

>> No.16018878

>>16013321
I think that’s a lot of philosophers
> Socrates
> Hume
> Derrida
> Camus

>> No.16018948

>>16014049
Not him but think about this.

The universe is a circle with as many centers as souls.

>> No.16018952

>>16013961
You can't escape that.

>> No.16018960
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>>16013321
Pyhrronism, and then Fichte.

>> No.16019072

vif kalle :(

>> No.16019205

>>16013321
Been while since I've seen this painting, what animal is on the hunter's back on the left?

>> No.16019540

>>16013321
Everything is true

>> No.16019893

>>16013321
>No thing is 'true', every thing is permitted
>phenomena are attributes of noumena without inherent existence independent of them as our understanding parses their presence
^
>>16018234
>idols are something that we should just look at, but never touch

>> No.16019929

>>16014425
fuck i remember those things, good times aye?

>> No.16019950

>>16013321
William James, Pragmatism