/lit/ - Literature

>>16003711
postism

more posmodernism

Nothing. Almost typed something postmodern here but didn't. If you can figure out something more challenging than deliberate incomprehensibility than go ahead.

>>16003711
I took at fat shit just now.

>>16003711
hypomodernism.

>>16003711
premodern

>>16003730
Accidentally comprehensibility?
We finally acknowledge that nobody can purposefully reach the universal truth so we just apply the monkeys and typewriters theory and throw so much shit at the wall that something ends up sticking by accident

>>16003730

Post modernism is a dead end

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>>16003786
both thoughts equally postmodern. nice try

big scrunch, followed by return to premodern

post post modernism where you try to straighten out all the lines in the postmodern picture, then do it over and over when it keeps curling and twisting back
like Sisyphus but without the awareness

>>16003786
I mean do you intend to say that we should deliberately make things worse while echoing distorted modernist messages

>>16003711
sneedism

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>>16003836
Not the poster with the reverse arrow but if you apply Plato’s cycle of governments to art the reverse arrow kinda makes sense. If Postmodernism is Democracy than the immediate response will be Tyranny. Here art will degenerate. We won’t get real art till the Aristocracy or Oligarchy phase.

>>16003711
>What comes after postmodernism?
Tradition

>>16003950
How does that correspond to Decline of the West?

Hypermodernity

>>16003735
that's still postmodern
>>16003751
THIS is the true answer

>>16003711
Christ

>>16003711
Premodern comes after Postmodern.

>>16003711
Post-postmodernism

Ironic sincerity. It starts as government enforced LARP, then people actually start buying it, and it becomes unironic sincerity.

The fact that nobody said metamodernism shows lit doesn't understand shit

>>16003976
I haven't read Spengler but I'd be shocked if he hadn't read the republic

Non-modernism

>>16004184
DFW's New Sincerity? Some analogue to it?

>>16003711
Hypermodernity
or
Metamodernism
or
Posthumanism
or
Postmaterialism
or
Post-postmodernism
or
Post-structuralism

Psychosis

pretending to be incomprehensible
VS
genuinely comprehending nothing

>>16003950
We already live in an oligarchy, so your point is moot.

>>16003711
clubbing your neighbor to death with a rock so you can steal his nonperishable food and/or daughter

>>16004227
Sort of. Actually believing Truth and Good exist under some formulation and acting towards that, because your society affords you the ability and capacity to own space and act towards your own will. Unironically believing in things, because you can actualize that belief in a meaningful way.

Let me put it like this: Homer Simpson is dumb as a reaction to prior tropes of Father Knows Best. So, as a retort, look, the father is dumb, how fanciful and humorous! Okay, so, what do you want the father TO BE, given that you're clearly saying that being dumb is bad. That question is never answered. Leaving it unanswered is irony (which is a necessary tool of Post-Modernism). Answering that is sincerity.

>>16003711

This

>>16003711
Metamodernism. Post-irony. New sincerity.

>>16003711
ghostmodernism

>>16004351
All sorts of postmodernism

Transmodernism.

No-futurism

To know what comes after, we should first say who comes after. Who is writing in this new style we're trying to name? Which works of theirs are we abstracting from?

A set of particular socio-cultural, technologic, political circumstances that people will label with a new meme word arbitrarily.

>>16005307
And postmodernism is just a sort of modernism

>>16003730
incomprehensible incomprehensibility

>>16003711
Premodern=Postmodern
Monism=Pluralism
Monad=Dyad

>>16003711
Remember the Kali Yuga is the longest. There's so much wealth left. Things are gonna get so fake and gay and niggerish and Jewish and it's gonna go on for millennia.

>>16004254
A less shadowy oligarchy.

>>16003711
was this brainlet done by a brainlet modernist ??
post-modernism are just several arrows reaching the same point from different directions.

Modernism has failed and failed again in the 20th century.

Moist modernism.

it just goes on forever. more and more meaning/content just getting shredded over time at an increasingly rapid pace

POZZmodernism

>>16003711
neomodernism

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>>16003996

Based John David Ebert posters.

>>16004201
this nigga gets it

materialist dialectic

Good qurstion, we will be pushed to discover our immortal soul and delve within and bring forth creation without precedent. I'm not sure how this movement will get going yet but I've read some of the work from Professor C.Chandler.

>>16003730
AI overlords

>>16004334
Still postmodern

>>16003976
Corresponds to his notions of Caesars a fair bit.

>>16003711
Metamodernism you retards

>>16003711
Autism

>>16006777
name a metamodern book

>>16003730
>deliberate incomprehensibility
OHNONONO (You) can't actually be this brain dead

>>16003711
See, the problem everyone here has is that they're trying to find a logical solution, something that follows on from postmodernism like 'metamodernism'. But since when have people come up with the next big idea by building on what came before? The whole /point/ is to tear down the existing ideological framework, firstly so you can show everyone how super-duper smart you are, secondly because people come up with new ideologies because the old ideology was ill-suited to them in some way. The very name 'postmodernism' was coined to imply that modernism was obsolete. So the question you have to ask yourselves is: how will the people who come up with the philosophical framework that follows postmodernism try to discredit postmodernism? And more to the point, /who/ will be doing it? Because the other mistake you're making is that whatever follows postmodernism will be decided by people of the same background as those who created postmodernism.

What will happen is that postmodernism will recast as the last dying breaths of colonialism, and whatever follows will be grouped under the umbrella of post-colonialism.

Postmodernism will be denounced as the abstract ramblings of over-privileged white Europeans and Americans whose ideas don't bear any relation to the reality of what oppressed peoples (read: non-whites) experience in their lives. 'Post-colonialists' will justify their tear-down of postmodernism by saying that abstract philosophy comes from a place of privilege; only rich white people sitting in their ivory towers come up with sophistry like post-modernism. They will base their ideological narrative on understanding the lived experiences of colonized peoples and the ideological goal will be decolonization, removing all white thought from both academia and society in general.

So the answer is that postcolonialism will follow postmodernism, and postcolonialism will literally just be 'whatever the brown people say' (or rather, enshrining respect for 'lived experience' at the core of all academic disciplines).

>>16006847
Nice post

>>16006046
Got it backwards, they get shorter as you descend, kali is the shortest. The golden age is the longest

>>16003711
The New Normal ;^)

>>16003711
Modernism but with a better sense of direction.

>>16003711
A self affirmation of subjectivity in a nietzche esque way, returning to premodern innocence

>>16003711
Integral: unification between all general forms of modernism or Memeism involving Pepe and Kek.

>>16006847
Reasonable as this seems, I could still pick out romanticism, modernism, postmodernism, just by reading one of those works, and knowing no context about it, including who the author was. I'm not sure what about postcolonialism would clue me in, since it seems entirely defined by the context of being written by a nonwhite. So what about a work itself makes it postcolonial? Surely not merely having nonwhite characters.

>>16003786
I don't think the "reverse arrow" is necessary
chaos necessarily degrades order

>>16003711
prefuturism

>>16003711
Their might be a "neo-modernism" in which progress is realized again as something worth striving for, but with caution and careful attention to aesthetics.

>>16007571
>So what about a work itself makes it postcolonial?

Would it be a return to an insistence on the absolute reality of folk wisdom combined with what would otherwise be a postmodern perspective? I could imagine a "white centered" postcolonialism emerging from demographics other than the american left.

Postcolonialism as a post-postmodern psychosis?

/lit/ is a cringe board.

>>16006847
>Postmodernism will be denounced as the abstract ramblings of over-privileged white Europeans and Americans whose ideas don't bear any relation to the reality of what oppressed peoples (read: non-whites) experience in their lives. 'Post-colonialists' will justify their tear-down of postmodernism by saying that abstract philosophy comes from a place of privilege; only rich white people sitting in their ivory towers come up with sophistry like post-modernism. They will base their ideological narrative on understanding the lived experiences of colonized peoples and the ideological goal will be decolonization, removing all white thought from both academia and society in general.
You can see the beginnings of this with concepts like "ethnomathematics", "other ways of knowing", or the redefinition of racism from "hatred of someone based on race" to "institutional norms, culture, interpersonal interactions and social structures that lead to outcomes that favor people of privilege (whites) over people of color." In fact under the new definition math CAN be racist. Correct grammar can be racist. Physics can be racist. Working hard can be racist. Postmodernism can be racist.

>>16003711
monarchism

>>16003711
A mix of all three, as resource collapse renders the possibility of anything else impossible.

>>16003711
>buying into fake labels invented by 80IQ journalists
KYS

>>16003711
My diary desu

>>16003711
Gentlemen.

>>16003950
>If Postmodernism is Democracy than the immediate response will be Tyranny
we already have a fucking tyranny in australia

>>16003711

It's like asking what comes after the future
the more future I guess

>>16003711
Collapse. Coom while you can

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>>16003711
If this were a good board, these posts would immediately get you banned.

>>16010137
How does your post contribute to this thread? How is not worse than literally everything you replied to?

>>16010253
Because it's addressing the elephant in the room and talking about what matters, which is that /lit/ has become utter shit. You're a retard if you don't realize this.

>>16010257
You know you can hide threads right? You know that postmodernity is a relevant topic to literature right? You know that you can make your own threads right?
You're embarrassing

>>16010364
>defending this dumpster fire of a thread
faggot

whats wrong with postmodernism you brainlet religious fanatics?

>>16010257
Give a better answer to the OP then, anon.

>>16006847
only real answer in this thread

TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE

>>16010470
Go fuck yourself.

>>16003711
Post modernism is the result of late capitalism. It will change when society either flows into a new mode of production or returns to an old one.

>>16010870
>late capitalism
What do you mean by that?

>>16010137
Yes, if this were a good board, shotgun quoting would immediately get you banned. There might even be a script to detect it

>>16003711
Niggerism.

>>16010917
All of society being encompassed into the market, all relations and interaction become essential transactional