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What do I do about the fact that Dosto bores me to death? I get it, themes he writes about are profound and he writes psychology well, but his novels are just such a slog.
I'm gonna be told to just off myself, okay, but barring that?

>> No.15986289

>>15986279
Get a better translation.

>> No.15986315

>>15986279
he is really boring and hard to read

>> No.15986318

>>15986279
its okay to not like books

>> No.15986334

>>15986279
Read someone else then. Maybe Hamsun is more engaging for you.

>> No.15986343

>>15986279
You got filtered, so you must move on to literature more your level. Maybe try some John Green.

>> No.15986356

>>15986279
I'm sorry...but you found Constance Garnett's translation of Crime and Punishment to be a slog?

>> No.15986398

>>15986334
Thanks for recomendation, I will check Hamsun out
>>15986356
I didn't read any english translation, I'm ESL.

>> No.15986469

I ran into the same issue and put down crime and punishment and the brothers karamazov.

>> No.15986590

The only one of his I was bored by was Raw Youth.

>> No.15986622

Did you get to chapter 2 of C&P? If you found that boring then there's always Harry Potter

>> No.15986651

>>15986398
>I'm ESL.
Me too. All the more reason to read it in English.

>> No.15986704

>>15986622
go back to r*ddit newfag

>> No.15986735

>>15986704
>newfag
>>>/b/

>> No.15986751

>>15986279
It depends which Dostoevsky you're reading but for a lot of them you have to imagine it's like a man excitedly rambling at you, because that is basically how he wrote it. There is a sort of conversational rhythm to it.

>> No.15986780

>>15986279
that's okay, he writes badly

>> No.15986991

>>15986398
nice, start with Hunger and continue with Mysteries or Pan. Growth of the soil is great

>> No.15987008

>>15986279
What dosto books have you actually tried to read?

>> No.15987015

>>15986279
Ehh don’t be too hard on yourself. He’s an acquired taste, you can try again with something else, or maybe just put it off til later.

>> No.15987046

>>15987008
C&P and The house of the dead. I think I got to 100 pages with the second one, but it was a while ago, I'm no longer sure.
I tried finding Notes from the Underground, but to my suprise, there was only one polish translation ever released, and it was released like 60 years ago? Of course not available anywhere, I didn't bother to cash out for english version.

>> No.15987055

>>15986279
Dosto is for teens. Read Tolstoy or Turgenev.

>> No.15987059

>>15986279
I've overhead douchebag students in coffee ships have more profund discussions than you will find in his novels. I do not understand the praise

>> No.15987071

>>15987055
Please, Levin's entire character arc and his self reflection in the last chapter is juvenile. There is nothing adult or interesting about it

>> No.15987087

>>15987071
Adult books can have childish characters. Indeed, they can even have child characters.

>> No.15987110

>>15987087
Sorry, I'm not explaining myself clearly. I mean that the way his character and his evolving philosophy is explored is completely uninspired. There is nothing in it that an adolescent philosophy student couldn't have said

>> No.15987113

>>15986279
Read him more

>> No.15987284

>>15987046
>>15987046
The House of the Dead has one of the most impressive short stories about a dog I have ever read. Though I can see how THotD can be boring if you dont really like Dosto. I thought C&P was interesting enough. If you want to read Dosto do what >>15987113 says

>> No.15987666

wtf
I think most people have the opposite problem
his books are too entertaining, and can be read as just entertainment

>> No.15987707

>>15987666
This. I thought C&P was surprisingly fast-paced and most chapters ended on a cliffhanger.

>> No.15987748

>>15986751
This is mostly true of NFU and barely of C&P. I don’t see how this applies to Demons.

>> No.15988671

>>15987707
Yeah a lot of his books were serialised in news papers iirc

OPs real problem is internet addiction like every other zoomer and millennial

>> No.15988701

>>15987748
I think it applies to basically everything he wrote. The actual narration itself does not sound impersonal, it sounds like a guy talking to you.

>> No.15988731

>>15986279
Take mdma and read it whe you're coming down so you can actually empathize with the characters and plot.

>> No.15988758

>>15986751
Yes, I agree with this

>> No.15988974

>>15986279
Read Tolstoy

>> No.15989014

>>15986289
who does the best Dostoevsky translations? people always used to push P&V but I've read stuff since saying they are janky, and when I read about their method I had to agree it sounded pretty janky.

>> No.15989021
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15989021

>>15986279
Stop reading Constance Garnett

>> No.15990044

>>15989014
Where can I read about their method?

>> No.15990055

Dostoyevsky's prose reads like a sort of really long play. Some rambly parts you can even read out loud like you would a play. He's an author best subvocalized.

>> No.15990070

>>15986279
Holy shit if you think Dostoevsky is boring than never read any other classic lit. Dosto is usually very fast paced with cliffhangers all over the place and characters constantly going off on very interesting ramblings

>> No.15990204

>>15990044
Wikipedia

>> No.15990221

>>15990070
This. He is a great dramatist.

>> No.15990273

>>15986279
You don't have to read fiction you don't like.

Ffs Tolstoy disliked SHAKESPEARE.

>> No.15990359

Never had this problem with his more engaging novela where the plot moved fast forward like in a crime novel, but yes, in Demons, which are slog for at least the first 100 pages or so, I've noticed how awfully fond is he od words such as fervently and suddenly (to be precise, of their equivalents in my language), and how inelegantly redundant the writing is at time, a passage here and there is written in the sense "he left him alone so he could read his letter alone" etc.

>> No.15991459

>he reads for enjoyment
pseud

>> No.15991516

>>15986279
Dostoyevsky is usually criticized for being too sensationalist and entertaining with his writing, if you find him boring then I’m not sure which literature you’d find interesting

>> No.15991640

>>15991516
What?
Humor in philosophy books is shit-tier but even THEY joke about how boring it is to read Dostoevsky

>> No.15991726

>>15991640
Who is they? Most of his works are incredibly digestible and dramatized, the philosophical discussions in his later works are the minority

>> No.15991757

>>15986279
The only one that kind of drags on is Brothers Karamazov. The others are all enjoyable.