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I ordered this book on /lit/'s recommendation and it's good but an anon then suggested that another one is better

I believe the other one was published in the last 5 years but I can't remember the title. Does anyone know what it might be? Thank you. Also Hitler lit thread I guess.

>> No.15978229
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There is a lot of essential Hitlit. Do you have any other clues?

>> No.15978278

>>15978192
Wages of destruction maybe?

>> No.15979365

>>15978192
The Triumph of Reason - The Thinking Man's Guide to Adolf Hitler

Get it on Amazon for the low low price of 900$, or alternatively get it for free as a pdf by booting up TOR for a few seconds.

>> No.15979392

>>15978192
Brendan simms 'hitler: a global biography' maybe, it was quite good and emphasized his anxieties about America and Britain more than other bios

>> No.15979404

Hitlers Revolution was a great read. Gave me a much greater understanding of Hitler's Germany and the ability to empathize with the Nazis.

>> No.15979410

>>15978192
Is /lit/ a natsoc board?

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>>15979404
>>15978192
Joining you lads soon

Inb4 goblino, I'm Nordic as fuck and I tan for high test

>> No.15979505

>>15978192
Might be Coming of the Third Reich by Rich Evans

>> No.15979653

>>15979410
any board with anonymity will become natsoc, because that is what the natural man wants in his beating heart.

>> No.15979677

>>15979653
deeply red white and black pilled

>> No.15979681

>>15979489
>tan
poo

>> No.15979706

>>15979489
So you intentionally burn your skin to fit in with amerifart social norms? Doesn't sound high test to me sounds like all the other women that go to tanning beds lol

>> No.15979713

>>15979706
I tan for peak performance. Natty vitamin D lads

>> No.15979747

>>15979653
based

>>15979489
based tan viking

>> No.15979752

Is mein kampf a book you can read whatever version there is? Or there's a one with better translation to english.

>> No.15979809

>>15979752
thomasdaltonphd.com

>> No.15980358

>>15978229
Wow thank you for this. I think it must have been Stolfi, Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny. Do you think it's as good as another anon was saying?

>>15978278
>>15979365
>>15979392
>>15979404
>>15979505
Thanks friends, will check these out too.

>> No.15980433

>>15979713
I go outside roughly once a week to buy food. I make sure to lather up with sunscreen and carry a sun umbrella. I take vitamin D so no sun exposure is necessary for my health. I spend my days in a dimly lit room, drinking milk and lifting weights. My skin is pure white, practically glowing. One time I laid down in the snow naked, and no one knew I was there until I farted.

>> No.15980439

>>15978229
Thanks

Just started Hitler's Revolution and it's comfy lads. Has a kind of amateurish school book report feel but the original quotations are a gold mine. More like a labor mine cuz that where all value comes from right.

Anyway, glad this is picking up steam, the future is bright bröthers.

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>>15980433
LOL

I know this is hard for us huwites to accept but skin tone is a sexually dimorphic trait. Worship Apollo, lads, to attract that trad waifu.

>> No.15980575

>>15978192
does anyone recommend any books that discuss the facist theory and movement in a sympathetic way, or as primary sources? Whenever I have read Carl Schmidt snippets they are incredible insightful.

I'm not looking for wignat larp material. I just want to understand more about what they believe without the obvious ideological filter of liberalism.

>> No.15980608

>>15979489
I can already smell it.

>> No.15980651
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>>15980575
Read these first
https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest-a-right-answer-to-usury-part-1/
https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/breaking-the-bondage-of-interesta-right-answer-to-usury-part-2/
https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest-a-right-answer-to-usury-part/
https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/breaking-the-bondage-of-interesta-right-answer-to-usury-part-4/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/11/two-volumes-by-gottfried-feder/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/11/gold-and-work/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/10/on-usury/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqvsEjFAWh8

Nobody says Hitler or anybody else was perfect but they knew what they were doing, they were waging war against a worldwide economic system designed to enslave nations. Pic related.

>> No.15980879

This
>>15980651
there's a reason why everyone spergs out about Mein Kampf and not Feder's papers. If you want to understand the theory behind national socialism read Feder.

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>>15980463
I happen to have saved this image of that same woman. It's a nice image. It brings me nice feelings. I hope it brings nice feelings to all the anons in this thread.

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>>15980879
Feder was sidelined as an idealistic crank when they actually got into power though.

>> No.15981295

>>15981271
such a shame, he was one of the greats

why did hitler compromise so much?

>> No.15981300

>>15981271
So what was up with the economy of Nazi Germany? Do you recommend any reads?

>> No.15981309

>>15981300
Seconding this. Is Tooze's book any good or is he neolib?

>> No.15981338

>>15981300
Look into any works that talk about Hjalmar Schacht. Tower of Basel by Adam Lebor and The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze.

>> No.15981369

>>15981338
Was the economy really that great back there, pre-war at least? I haven't read anything on it, yet.

>> No.15981407

enjoy being on a three letter agency list
just download books from libgen you natsoc retard

>> No.15981431

>>15981407
>implying the international police will come looking for some guy in the middle of nowhere who bought a book

>> No.15981487

Embarrassing thread, the image even has a discord link lel

>> No.15981491

>>15981271
What's the difference between anti-materialistic and anti-capitalistic?

>> No.15981516

>>15981491
one opposes a real world system the other a vague idea, in other words more toothless, can be attacked by mere rhetoric rather than action that might affect big business

>> No.15981530

>>15981487
What?

>> No.15981538

>>15978229
>Hitler's Table Talks
Reminder that book was debunked almost 20 years ago. It's not the words of Hitler and anyone who wastes their time with it has been duped.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/15035

>> No.15981700

>>15981271
this makes it sound like hitler liked hjalmar schacht, but he completely despised him.

>> No.15981730

>>15981538
Irving still treats them credibly iirc

>> No.15981921

>>15981730
I know. Not sure if anyone has brought the research to his attention, but it's something to keep in mind when reading Hitler's War, especially in the chapter "Extreme Unction". His holocaust by bullet narrative and belief in gas vans is also nonsense. Irving's great, but he's not perfect.

>> No.15981927

>>15979653
Based

>> No.15982196

This thread is /pol/, but very different. As a /pol/ack I like these threads.
>>15978278
>>15979392
>>15979505
based

>> No.15982201

>>15981538
>>15981921

I didn't create the image, and frankly, it's worth reading table talks because it's part of the canon. It may be a hoax, but you will need to read it to dismantle it.

>> No.15982366

>>15981921
>>15982201
Trevor Roper's Table Talks absolutely have issues, but I would be wary of dismissing them completely. If you do decide on reading them, they should be read in conjunction with other sources, private or otherwise.

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>>15982201
>but you will need to read it to dismantle it.
No you don't. All you need to know is the findings for why they're invalid. There's nothing of value in them, especially if you're reading an English translation, because the English is translated from French tranlation that was proven to be incorrect!

>>15982366
>Trevor Roper's Table Talks absolutely have issues
Every version has issues.
>The English translation I already demonstrated to be fraudulent, based on the heavily and bizarrely distorted French translation of Genoud. But even the German text (of which there are multiple disagreeing versions) intermingles the views of each entry’s authors and editors with Hitler’s, takes Hitler’s comments out of context and even creates new context for them, mistakes the comments of others present as Hitler’s, and is drawn at best from loose memory a day after the fact, by three or four different persons at different times, after countless things were discussed by numerous people.

Waste your time if you want.

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My collection is expanding lads (the book right below evola is the programme of the nsdap and the one above dreaming the iron dream is the protocols of Zion.)

>> No.15983493

>>15983027
>No you don't.

I do, considering how often they're quoted in other texts (Shirer, et al.)

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>>15983477

Fucking based. I remember your post from the other day.

>> No.15983504

>>15983477
>invite a girl over
>"so this is my collection of hitler books"
>she's gone when you turn back

>> No.15983507

>>15983477
Nice, man.

>>15983493
Oh, you mean recognizing them. I'll concede that.

>> No.15983519

>>15983504
>t. virgin
Women don't care if they're attracted to you already.

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>>15983477
Where did you get the Serrano books? Also op get this.

>> No.15983530

>>15983522
Serrano was bought off of fucking Amazon kek

>> No.15983539

>>15983500
Checked and heil!

>> No.15983567

>>15979505
did Mike write about Hitler too?

>> No.15983581

>>15983507
>Oh, you mean recognizing them. I'll concede that.

Yes. A lot of the points made in Shirer are dependent thereon, and since the stuff came from confessions by Schmidt and others, it's worth knowing it when you see it.

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>>15983477

>> No.15983590

>>15983477
Have you read Feder's books yet?

>> No.15983612

>>15983581
Agreed, though I've developed the habit of checking sources.

>> No.15983618

>>15983477
Based & checked sir

>> No.15983651

>>15980358
Stolfis book is pretty good, and as far as the argument that Hitler was more similar to a prophet like Mohammed than a politician like Churchill I think hes correct. The thing is Stolfi also happens to believe in the prophecy, which probably turns non-natsocs off the book. Ymmv

>> No.15983660

Nazism is a complete mess of an ideology. Even when it’s stripped of the atrocities it caused, which is nearly impossible, nazism is still a giant schizophrenic trash pile of ideas that make no sense at all and completely contradict one another. It’s really extraordinary how it managed to rise to prominence in the first place, something that can only be explained by the First World War and the Economic Crash of 1929. If those two events had never happened, we would have been left with a bewildering ideology that tries to combine GermanIc polytheism (which was tribal and decentralized), Roman and Greek polytheism and philosophy (which contained little awareness of race, if any at all), Christianity (which has explicit roots in Judaism), some hints of Islam (which, like Christianity, is incoherent without Judaism), some ideas selected from the Enlightenment, such as the will of a single, homogeneous people, even though this homogeneity is seldom to never an actual fact of reality, some ideas selected from Darwinism concerning race, which have all been completely debunked, and the concrete that keeps this whole shabby structure together is a big antisemitic conspiracy, despite that the idea of a racially pure Germany being chosen by providence to lead the world is actually much closer to Judaism than most nazis would ever like to admit.

In short, nazism is a shitpile ideology, and if you consider it to be anything else, you’re a midwit and a brainlet

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>>15983612

Sometimes I can't be fucking bothered. I swear, the more and more 'stinky hitler' memoirs I read, I know it originated somewhere with those seminal works like Reitlinger or something.

Makes me wanna barf.

>> No.15983667

>>15983590
Not yet, going to tackle those in one swoop after I finish my current selection

>> No.15983669

>>15983660
>Nazism is a complete mess

I stopped reading here, fyi.

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>>15983660

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>>15983477
based

>> No.15984507

>>15983522
This is the only one you need, avoid the amateurish takes of later writers (most of whom can't even read German, I would imagine) and go right to the sources. Good stuff from Strasser, Feder, Rosenberg etc.

>> No.15984531

>>15980439
youre radiant niggs. one might even say youre...... glowing?

>> No.15984592

>>15983669
I think we all stopped reading there.

>> No.15984631

>>15983660
It is interesting how dominant Jews were in the German psyche and how their own ideals for themselves very much resembled the role they believed the Jews currently occupied in the world. One quote from the time essentially said it was a war between German savagery and Jewish cunning.

>> No.15984776

>>15984592
Blessed.

>> No.15985014

>>15983669
>>15983676
>>15984592
>>15984776
>requires reading dozens of books to be even halfway coherent as an ideology, and even then most of the ideology is incompatible with the other parts
>"hurr its a coherent and consistent ideology"
The only ideology of National Socialism is opportunism, Hitler especially was no theorist and if he claimed to be one he wasn't logically or internally consistent. Prove me wrong.

>> No.15985035

>>15983586
Imagine the gigantic soifaggot that took this picture

>> No.15985099

>>15978192
Book in the OP has a cool title and a nice cover but other than that it has no substance to it.

>> No.15985106

>>15985014
>Prove me wrong.

Philosophy is a Jewish psy-op.

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>>15981369
My guess would be it's because literally nobody understands it. The best I've been able to come across are shitposts around here that vaguely reference how Hitler essentially used labor as the backing of his currency.

The only "academic" theory I can reference in relation to Hitler's Economic miracle would be that of "MMT" or Modern Monetary Theory. If you look up youtube videos of Randall Wray, or Michael Hudson, or Stephanie Kelton, you can get an idea of how money works in this system. My view is that Hitler basically understood this theory 50+ years before it was formally developed in the west. The people who developed this theory are largely from a Keynesian/Marxist school of thought, which is interesting, because Hitler would have probably been exposed to similar economic theories in his time and hybridized them in a similar manner.

Here's one of my favorite lectures on MMT, but there are a number of good ones out there depending on where you are at in understanding economics. Kelton is the Easiest to understand, Hudson is the most complex, Wray is somewhere in the middle, but he establishes a strong foundation for understanding the theory as a whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KRi9nF8BiA

Wiki for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory

>> No.15985549

>>15981309
>>15981338
Could anyone help out with an assessment of Tooze ?

>> No.15985594

>>15985014
Hitler's philosophy was that a people is a living thing and you shouldn't treat it like an aggregate of selfish consumers who should all be in debt to some guy who lives across the ocean.

From there everything else flows. Leave the 'theory' to people who want to engage in it once the people is healthy again.

Marx has tons of theory, plenty of it interesting, but the people who read it all live in hellholes with no national or ethnic identity where everybody is enslaved to a hundred different creditors supported by the corrupt state. Maybe if someone came along and freed them from these burdens they would have more time to read and think about their pet theories too.

>> No.15985679

>>15985549
Just by reading the wikipedia page I can tell you that Wages of Destruction is trash. He gets Hitler's intent for the war completely wrong, and blames it on cynical economic reasons. Hitler never wanted war, and was forced into it against his will, he would have much preferred to finish building Berlin like was his boyhood dream, but the forces closing in around Germany were a more pressing issue.

>> No.15986160

>>15985679
>Hitler never wanted war, and was forced into it against his will, he would have much preferred to finish building Berlin like was his boyhood dream, but the forces closing in around Germany were a more pressing issue.
*smacks lips* MMMMM, that's some mighty tasty kool-aid! :^)

>> No.15986178

>>15986160
Not him, but Germany literally just wanted a highway to connect them with East Prussia, that's what ultimately led to the war

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>>15986160
Just more proof that Jews are racist bigots.

>> No.15986248

>>15986160

It was a war of Polish aggression. They should not have violated the frontier and attacked Gleiwitz.

>> No.15986338

>>15986248
Imagine being baited into a war of total annihilation by the Poles of all people lmao

>> No.15986824

So what is this thread exactly? I feel like I just stumbled into a thread for bored CIA agents

>> No.15986827

>>15986824

>> No.15986912
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>>15986824
Dr. Pavel?

>> No.15987082

>>15986824
True. Me, I am a CIA agent, I'll tell you what we're doing exactly, we're gathering information for the next National Socialist uprising in the US. We're working with hiroyuki and some of the 8kun site moderators, for a lot of the data gathering. If you wanted to know, we predict it's going to happen in the next 10-15 years, if the course is not disrupted, which we don't think it will.

>> No.15987102

>>15987082
Now that I think about it it's also around the same as Hitler, exactly 100 years later. The next Hitler should be writing his book just about now.

>> No.15987236

>>15985503
This. To simplify the principles Hitler was working with: People in a nation will use the currency their government provides without question, and the government can get into as much debt as it needs to as long as it's only indebted to itself, rather than foreign bankers. Debts to oneself can be waved by oneself.

>> No.15987783

>>15986824
I dunno, I make a distinction between conservative people who are willing to think about what really happened in WWII and edgy school shooter fags who want an excuse to joke about killing Muslims or whatever.

I just want Buchanan back.

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>>15980651
>Greg Johnson
kys, faggot.

>> No.15987915

>>15987865
Back to chimpoutchimpmaniachimpniggersfuckniggers.geocities.com, stormfront boomer.

>> No.15987919

>>15983660
>the will of a single, homogeneous people, even though this homogeneity is seldom to never an actual fact of reality
Group selection is real. Genetic similarity theory is real. Starting with your family and branching out there's a mathematically determined point where it serves your genetic interests to ally rather than oppose people. It's against your genetic interests to allow subSaharan Africans to move into your country. It's in your genetic interests to help your siblings raise your nieces and nephews. Somewhere in between those two is the line that makes a nation. This gives you a friend/enemy distinction and thus the possibility of political order.

Genetic interests are where the buck stops. Jews known this. Founding your life strategy on anything else is the brainlet move.

>> No.15987958

>>15987865
Yeah, he's a fag. Do more for wypipo than GJ and then talk.

>> No.15987976

>>15987958
The head wigger nationalist philosopher is literally gay

>> No.15988010

>>15981700
Schacht was a traitor, too. He was eventually relieved of his position and the bank was finally nationalized in 1939.

>> No.15988011

>>15987865
>the main problem with jews is not their genes, it is their culture
no word for this amount of truth

>> No.15988059

>>15987958
>promoting homosexuality to your race is helping it
Holy fuck.

>> No.15988079

>>15987102
Hello anon.

>> No.15988098

>>15980651
>>15987865
"Intolerance of homosexuality is Jewish." - Greg Johnson
https://www.counter-currents.com/2010/10/homosexuality-and-white-nationalism/

>> No.15988105

>>15988098

You can hate Johnson all you want, but without him Counter Currents would not exist, and we would not have a publisher for a lot of these materials.

>> No.15988118

>>15988105
>without him Counter Currents would not exist
So? I've never needed it.
>we would not have a publisher for a lot of these materials
Bullshit. A homosexual kike apologist got there first is all. kys

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why on earth would people worship hitler when they could worship the superior european hero?

>> No.15988135

>>15988126
Why not both?

>> No.15988144

>>15988135
because one is so obviously superior to the other that it's not even funny

>> No.15988179

>>15988144
>this thing gooder than that thing, so have to choose one
I don't follow your grug tier logic.

>> No.15988195

>>15981295
>what is ruling a country
>what is keepin the industry running
>what is pleasing the guys who got you elected
Hitler was a politician. He ultimately wanted power, relevance and efficiency more than masturbating over how pure and theoretically uncompromising he is.

>> No.15988224

>>15988126
hitler is just part of a vast pantheon

>> No.15988250

>>15988179
go worship homeless people then you dumb cunt

>> No.15988322

>>15988250
>t. retard who can't explain himself

>> No.15988326

>>15987865
I don't see anything wrong with any of these quotes. As long as gays act normal, I don't have a problem with them. I am against the influence of Israel on our country but I see no reason to support the destruction of it. Let Jews learn how to be nationalists in their homeland. As for the holocaust, whether or not it happened does not matter. Regardless of whether or not 6 million Jews, no Jews, or a billion Jews were murdered by the Nazis, the White race still has a right to exist and have our own homelands.

>> No.15988328

>>15988118
>A homosexual kike apologist got there first is all. kys

I don't see anybody else doing it, bud.

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>>15988326
>As long as gays act normal, I don't have a problem with them.
They spread disease, rape kids, and normalize mashing their dicks into feces. Get the fuck outta here you weak willed, dimwitted enabler.
>I am against the influence of Israel on our country but I see no reason to support the destruction of it.
I'd be willing to help Palestinians take back their land.
>As for the holocaust, whether or not it happened does not matter.
Retard take. It's only the foundation of modern secular ethics. If you can't show that Hitler's regime didn't commit the atrocities kikes attribute to it then you will never be able to promote nationalism from an equal moral position, because people will just call you a "nazi" and you'll have no rebuttal. It's the most important thing to debunk, you fucking moron.

>> No.15988488

>>15988328
Perhaps that has something to do with it already being done? Try to keep up here, dipshit.

>> No.15988736

>>15988079
I have hope in you.

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>>15979809
Fuck, Im a poorfag and can't find any free pdfs of this book translate d by Thomas Dalton. I'll just stick with the first I find then. Any good sites to download books?

>> No.15988775

>>15988768

Reynal & Hitchcock; and Manheim are better translations. Look for one of those.

>> No.15988829

>>15988768
>>15988775
This. The Thomas Dalton one is ok, but it's not that accurate.

>> No.15988844

>>15988460

>They spread disease, rape kids, and normalize mashing their dicks into feces

okay but all of those things can be said about all heterosexual men too. Fags just do it more because its two men instead of one so the obsessive sexual degeneracy is doubled. Don't blame normies for being traumatised by their overbearing cunt mothers into not liking pussy

>> No.15988876

>>15988844
>Fags just do it more
The entire fucking point. Kill yourself.

>> No.15989923

>>15981538
anyone who disputes Table Talks' authenticity is a faggot LARPer who doesn't know shit

>> No.15989938

>>15979489
Benjamin Franklin was right. You people are some swarthy motherfuckers

>> No.15989969

>>15980575
read Evola. Fascism viewed from the right and notes on the third reich

>> No.15990024

>>15988126
the Napoleon > Hitler crowd are the biggest bunch of pseuds on earth. Most notably Kantbot and Moldbug

>> No.15990730

>>15989923
Because?

>> No.15990739

>>15990730
the people who cry forgery are usually christcucks because it destroys their illusions of Hitler as this second coming of Christ type figure. the dude hated christianity

>> No.15990759

>>15990739
So you didn't even read the link. Richard Carrier, aside from being the guy to bring the falsity of the Table Talks to light, also highly doubts the mere existence of jesus. Anybody who takes your uneducated word for anything is as stupid as you.

>> No.15990776

>>15990759
David Irving > Richard Carrier when it comes to anything nazi. Even Ian Kershaw says it's legit but the English translation is just slightly off

>> No.15990801

>>15990776
Ok, cheerleader. GO TEAM IRVING! you're a retard

Irving also believes in 6 million dead by bullets, and gas vans. It might hurt for you to do this, but you have to consider many sources to find the truth, not just gobble some famous personality's cock. Nobody gets everything right.

>> No.15990820

>>15990801
ok so I read your retarded link and he's not saying it's a forgery but rather they are not his words verbatim and that guys like Bormann wrote it down in his own words at a later time. Bormann was a loyal dude and he probably heard Hitler rant about the same topics all the time so while they might not be direct quotes of Hitler, the ideas expressed are accurate.
and he says that Table Talk is far more reliable than the Gospels.

>> No.15990836

>>15990820
>The English translation I already demonstrated to be fraudulent, based on the heavily and bizarrely distorted French translation of Genoud. But even the German text (of which there are multiple disagreeing versions) intermingles the views of each entry’s authors and editors with Hitler’s, takes Hitler’s comments out of context and even creates new context for them, mistakes the comments of others present as Hitler’s, and is drawn at best from loose memory a day after the fact, by three or four different persons at different times, after countless things were discussed by numerous people. And then all was edited and added to by Bormann. (And possibly meddled with by Genoud!)

That's what he said. Far worse than you tried to portray. Cope harder.

>> No.15990842

>>15990836
no, that's pretty much exactly what I said
>English translation is slightly off
>Bormann tweaked it a bit
Now please go cope somewhere else. Your anti-Table Talk crusade is pathetic

>> No.15990853

>>15990836
>slightly off
>heavily and bizarrely distorted
I'm not as dumb as you, those aren't the same.
>Bormann tweaked it a bit
He did so after
>But even the German text (of which there are multiple disagreeing versions) intermingles the views of each entry’s authors and editors with Hitler’s, takes Hitler’s comments out of context and even creates new context for them, mistakes the comments of others present as Hitler’s, and is drawn at best from loose memory a day after the fact, by three or four different persons at different times, after countless things were discussed by numerous people.

Cope harder.

>> No.15990864

>>15990853
cry more

>> No.15990865

>>15990853
meant for this obviously >>15990842

>> No.15990888

>>15987919
Genetics is not gospel, and the fact that you consider it as such shows that you’re neither a biologist nor a very deep thinker. Human are a very complex organism, much more complex than your pathetic ideology could ever capture. Your ideology does to biology and genetics what Marxism tried to do to economics. It assumes, without any evidence for it, that it has found the penultimate mechanism by which the ideal end state of humanity can be brought into existence. It seriously believes that genetics is destiny, and that a state controlling this destiny will lead us to paradise. This is an extremely disturbing thought, one where the state basically gains totalitarian biological control. The potential for disaster is tremendous. If the state turns out to be wrong, even slightly, you end up with untold amounts of terminated and ruined lives. This is why nazism and nazis aren’t taken seriously. Luckily, this idiocy extends to other areas, such as warfare, giving nazis the confidence that they can fight the whole planet, which solves the stupidity of nazism. It’s a pity that so many lives were lost in the process, but you do end up with a world were nazism only appeals to lonely, angry, bitter NEET virgins who daydream about being the master race, while masturbating to chicks with dicks hentai

>> No.15990919

>>15990888
>untold amounts of terminated lives
What are you referring to?
>giving nazis the confidence that they can fight the whole planet
Why was the whole planet attacking Germany?

>> No.15990945

>>15990919
>what is Aktion T4
>muh persecution!!!1
Pathetic. Tries to fight, and complains when people fight back. No wonder no one in their right mind takes nazism seriously. Not only are you people intellectually weak and deceptive, you also have zero honor and decency in your struggle. Once again, you guys are ironically very close to the jewish stereotypes you stamp onto others. You cry out in pain as you strike others, and cry even harder when those people strike back. Guess what, your ideology is a failure. It lost the only war it ever fought. Cry me a river, bitch

>> No.15991014

>>15990945
>Aktion T4
>“Reich Leader Bouhler and Dr. Med Brandt are charged with the responsibility of enlarging the powers of specific physicians, designated by name, so that patients who, on the basis of human judgment, are considered incurable, can be granted mercy death after the most careful assessment of their condition.” - Hitler
>Kershaw, Ian, Hitler, the Germans, and the Final Solution, New Haven & London: Yale University Press, 2008, p. 96.
Literally nothing wrong with this.

>muh persecution!!!1
Why was the whole planet attacking Gemany?

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>>15979489
>bro trust
>Prussian-German ancestry

>> No.15991441

>>15988126
Because its quite literally single handedly Napoleon's fault we live in the world we do today. Fuck him

>> No.15991445

>>15988460
Based

>> No.15991463

>>15988888
Bumping to check this get.

>> No.15991485

>>15979489
im a true browned skin spic and can confirm youre a tanned whiteboy

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15991486

>>15988126
>European hero destroy's Europe
>2nd European hero destroy's Europe forever
You people make me laugh. Imagine worshiping and listening to losers who lost, pathetic. If reddit is midwits this is very low iq.

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>>15990801
>GO TEAM IRVING!

Unironically, though.

>Irving also believes in 6 million dead by bullets, and gas vans.

Nobody's perfect. I'm still rolling at the idea that Einsatzgruppen had specially built gas vans lmao. Reading Bernd's memoir right now and he falls over himself to say he'd never shoot a stinky jew or do the SS' bidding. Probably a product of the times. He could never support it now.

>> No.15991596

>>15991552
Irving's great, I own 4 of his books and read "Hitler's War" 3 times, but some people want to replace their brains with David Irving's writings.

>> No.15991617

>>15991596

Irving's a product of his time, there is no doubt. I took a peek at the PDFs because I couldn't wait to buy the physical copies.

I'm working on my collection over here, as well, trying to scrounge up whatever WWII related volumes I can find when I go out to Goodwill, yard sales, etc. My ideal scenario is that I can save money this way to buy Irving, CODOH, and other related books to round out my collection of less "stupid Hitler!" tier-books.

>> No.15991621

Proud to see all the NatSoc white brethren in this thread. Remember when this board was full of Catholics and Marxists.
We are truly rising, brethren. Keep up the good fight, and keep redpilling the normies and Jews

>> No.15991628

>>15991621
Lets see how hatred works out for you this time. If we're lucky enough to get a this time. Fourth times the charm?

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>>15991628

What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.15991652

>>15991617
>I took a peek at the PDFs
I need to get it myself still, but I highly recommend his first book "The Destruction of Dresden". I read the whole PDF. Also read half HW before buying.

>CODOH
Yeah, we were talking about this recently. I want that collection.

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15991656

>>15991621
See Kyle.

>> No.15991658

>>15991652
>I need to get it myself still, but I highly recommend his first book "The Destruction of Dresden".

I will take a look. I also want his Goring, Keitel, and Rommel.

>> No.15991729

>>15991658
It'd be nice to have them all of course, but those are on the back burner for me. I remember an interview where he referred to stuff like "Rommel" (his best seller) as the books he wrote to fund his more important works, like the Hitler, Churchill, and Goebbels books. The ones I'm most interested in adding to my collection now are "The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor", because that goes deep into what kind of substances Hitler was on and works as a counter to the slanderous pop-history book "Blitzed" (Hitler's health did deteriorate thanks to poor dietary choices and some weird medical practices, but meth had no part), and I want to get "Nuremberg - The Last Battle" so I have a powerful reference for why the trials were bullshit, though the Holocaust Handbooks cover that as well.

>> No.15991755

>>15991729

I understand they're not at the forefront, but he seems to have written them with the same historical rigor as his other works, which is a hell of a lot more than you can say about most Nazi lit. Speaking of, I just added Secret Diaries to my goodreads, right before I saw your post.

>> No.15991784

>>15991755
>but he seems to have written them with the same historical rigor as his other works
Yeah, he discovered most of his material for those at the same time as he was researching the other stuff, so I'm sure he was on point. When he sued Lipstadt for libel she had a bunch of people peruse his books for "lies", and they presented 37 entires across all of his works (around 30 books) they deemed false, but only 7 were found to be in error. I could add a couple of my own to that, but that's damn impressive.

>> No.15991793

>>15991784
>entires
entries*

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15991820

>>15991784
>only 7 were found to be in error.

lmao incredible. The Lipdstadt era was a disaster. Scarcely could you produce a more deceitful and Jewy Jew.

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>>15991820
Here's who they had portray him in the film "Denial" (2016)

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>>15991868

And the other half of the equation. As I said, utterly deceitful.

>> No.15991943

>>15991930
Oh, wow, it's like I'm seeing double!

>> No.15992046

>>15991943

No kidding. I wonder how long it will be before Irving is vindicated by history? It may be long after we're gone.

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>>15987236
well summarized fren.

>> No.15992922

>>15983500
The guy who translated those Feder works, Alexander Jacob, is not even white and a terrible translator to boot. He either has no understanding of German or English, I'm not sure which. Arktos used him for a few translations and they are horrendous.

>> No.15992979

>>15992922
This >>15983522
Has Feder's major works and is from the 1970s, translated by professionals so I would imagine better than some amateur.

>> No.15992986

>>15990801
Irving estimates between 500,000 and a million dead, mostly in the East and a lot of it by local Estonian, Latvians and Lithuanians who were paying back a year's worth of occupation and abuse by Jewish NKVD torture squads.

>> No.15993014

>>15992986
In one of his interviews for the Himmler book he talks about only being able to show a certain number on record, but then then saying that Himmler's operations continued quietly till the end of the war, giving enough time for 6 million to have died.

>> No.15993019

>>15992922
>>15992979

Thanks.

>> No.15993028

>>15985549
Tooze's book was really good imo

>> No.15993068

>>15992979
Appreciate it. I will check it out. I was initially excited to see the Feder translations roll out then disappointed to see who did it. I mean, just look at the guy's picture online. I stopped buying arktos because of his transitions being so muddled. Hard to put my finger on it but it's almost as if he just runs text through Google translate.

>>15991930
>>15991868
This is always pretty funny to show people.

>> No.15993148

>>15993068

Even if they aren't printing the best translations, I'm still glad we've got publishers like Arktos, Counter Currents, Ostara, et al.

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>>15985549
>>15993028

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>>15993165

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>>15993211

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>>15993217

>> No.15993252

>>15993148
Don't get me wrong, they've all published some great stuff for which I'm grateful for, but many of the books stuffer from poor translations, typos, bad editing (especially how annoying the footnotes get in Arktos books), and cringe inducing cover design. Counter currents is really the only decent one remaining, and I'm pleased with their hardback Devi and Yockey works, but based on the recent G Johnson book, It's Okay to be White, it looks like they are getting out of the publishing game.

Don't even get me started on Hermitage Helm Corpus...

If only the Right had something akin to Verso Press.

>> No.15993291

>>15993252
>If only the Right had something akin to Verso Press.

Man, that'd be sweet.

>> No.15993311

>>15993211
>>15993217
>>15993235
Unconvincing and cringeworthy trash by teenagers for teenagers. Just link a man to the Wikipedia page for externalities and be done with it. The establishment of an enlightened despot to solve externality problems is well-known in orthodox economics, any thinking person can deduce the shortcomings of a pure free market economy from that, whereas the monopoly and monopsony models show the respective deadweight loss for state capitalism.

>>15993252
What's the problem with Arktos footnotes?

>> No.15993382

>>15993311
>What's the problem with Arktos footnotes?
They are overly copious and often totally asinine stemming from editor/translator comments rather than the actual author. Maybe they've gotten better, but it used to be so bad as to giving a footnote after say, Himmler's name to give his birth/death dates and some sentence summary of him. Not necessary whatsoever. Again, contrast this with Verso books and you'll see what I mean.

Also, I just remembered their podcast channel. Could they have picked a more awful host?

https://arktos.com/2020/05/04/traditional-living-in-a-modern-world-with-graf-von-marstall/

Their current publishing lineup is so dreadful. I hate this trend of Jason Jorjani and kitsch "philosophical" works written by some random blogger. At least they are releasing an unabridged set of Decline of the West...

They should really just stick to republishing Evola as that's where the cash is.

>> No.15993430

>>15993382
I see. Far-right publications will remain more amateurish and less academic for the time being, an unfortunate consequence of the lack of wealth and intellect willing to associate itself with something so dangerous. Are there any (leftist) works from Verso you find interesting enough to recommend?

>> No.15993446

>>15993382
>unabridged Decline of the West
Sign me the fuck up

>> No.15993515

>>15993430
Fair summary. As someone who dabbles in reading books from the right and left I'm continuously disappointed at the lack of competent "Right" publishing.

Verso has a great website presence that breaks their titles into reading lists..I would however recommend 24/7 by Jonathan Crary, Reading Capital, any of the Frankfurt School authors, hell, there's even a Hezbollah title they published.

I admire what Akrtos is trying to do, but they really seem to keep taking steps backwards. Easy step would be to fire their cover designer. Kicking out Jorjani and the "parapsychology" and we wuz Persian larp would be nice too.

Counter Currents seems to be the best thing going right now, but even they have fucking Bronies publishing under their name. Johnson is at least a smart guy but has made a number of dramas and mistakes.

https://www.counter-currents.com/2020/07/its-okay-to-be-white/

"Counter-Currents is getting out of publishing, but Greg Johnson is still publishing books" RIP

>> No.15993548

>>15993446
Exactly. This is the kinda stuff we need/want - more from de Benoist, Faye, and the like would be great. Not another Tito Perdue novel with a shitty cover or some flavor of the month crap like "CRBN".