/lit/ - Literature

>>15958912

>Are there any interesting literature on this subject?
Yes.
>How does it work?
I don't know.
>Is it even a real thing?
Yes.

>>15958925
So do u have any recommendations?

>>15958912
Check Chinese society for a real usecase of mass brainwashing.

>>15958935
1984.
Animal Farm.

yeh

>>15958912
Brainwashing (concept) is class propaganda. You should wash your brain by one who knows how, and you should learn to wash your pussy you sticky bitch

>>15958935
>>15958935
Read about Scientology and how they brainwash their subjects.

Or religion, or cults, then read the cited books about psychology.

I had a Cristian gf who was part of a more 'hardcore' group of Christians. You cannot believe the level of control their "leader" had over them... It's sad and amusing at the same time.

As soon as I discovered that she wanted to drag me into that bullshit I started running away.

>>15958912
FUCK THIS BITCH

>>15958935
Propaganda by Edward Bernays

>>15958935
Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes
Marshall McLuhan's books
Amusing Ourselves to Death
Society Of The Spectacle

>>15958912
people adapt to environment. substitute environment and you change "personality", which adapts by his own free will.

suppose you clone a newborn child, and one copy is adopted by jewish family, another by muslim family. these two identical kids will end up hating each other, and even may kill each other, but they are essentially the same kid. you are brainwashed all your life, mostly by parents and priests.

>>15958935
Listen to a lot of sissy hypno.

>>15958912
Get a marketing textbook, anon.

>>15958912
Brainwashing is literally part of every society ever. As soon as you are born you are being instructed as to how to behave and think.

>>15958912
Read any book that is a commentary on ideology or explains the function of ideology and that's basically all you need to know. "brainwashing" is when someone starts to believe something you don't want them to believe in.

The stupid mass is the real threat from brainwashing. Some retard tried to convince our people that the government lied to them. The older generation actually got tricked, but it backfired on the young. They brainwashed themself into believing their love for government. It terrified me watching them coup anyone oppose their belief

>>15959036
When you realize that she was just a figment of the MC’s imagination to get his to move on and reintegrate with society, you find that you are merely hating an aspect of yourself, for you have already identified with the MC.

Welcome to the NHK is basically Fight Club, but without Robert Paulson.

>>15958935
The Power of Habit

>>15960081
>Welcome to the NHK is basically Fight Club, but without Robert Paulson.

No. Just no.

>>15958938
American society is probably an easier case to observe

Read about the CIA mind control project called Mk ultra. Brainwashing is definitely a real thing.

The idea is usually to break someone's psyche through things like sleep deprivation, drugs, starvation, hypnosis etc. After severe trauma it's apparently pretty easy to introduce new thoughts beliefs or suggestions into someone's brain as it is in a vulnerable state.

>>15958912
This post would probably fit more into /x

>>15958912
i miss watching NHK for the first time :(

>>15960710
Were there any of those experiments that actually succeeded?

>>15960602
It really is once you realize the problem with Japanese males. Their birthrate has plummeted, the Hikikomori (NEETs) tendencies are widespread, and rampant consumerism for worthless trash (Video games, anime merch, and boy/girl idol bands) has basically destroyed their culture and threatens their future sovereignty. Sure the answer isn't amateur boxing in cellars and warehouses, but the message is the same

>>15960835
Nope, they all ended up either lobotomizing the patients or driving them insane from all of the stimuli. As it turns out the best form of mind control is giving someone every physical comfort they could ask for and when the dopamine high finally starts to peter out from all of the abuse you tell them that they can feel better if they just defend Israel from whatever threat needs to be purged that week.

>>15960081
Was she? She is mentioned by a lot of characters, not only mc

>>15960869
That's pretty reductive. They definitely blew alot of brains along the way, but I think it's safe to assume they developed some working techniques from the literal decades and millions of dollars spent. Keep in mind we know very little about these programs, just what has been released via FOIA and it's all heavily redacted.

The CIA also experimented with RF mind control and other things like that and I personally believe they have largely figured out much of it.

>>15961059
The MC basically is imagining what others would say about her if she was real. It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say the MC imagined the whole scenario in the safety of his room, and we’re simply a spectator is his own delusions.

>>15961088
They discovered nothing that Freud and Jung hadn't already explored. You assign too much importance to all of their (failed) experimentation. Yes, humans have a subconscious and a conscious, no they cannot be controlled reliably through chemicals alone, no they cannot be predictably modified by drugs (unless we are talking about lobotomy), no they cannot be tailor made to accomplish a mission, no they cannot be reasoned with using a Magic Bullet, no there are not shortcuts to inoculating a large population at will to whatever you wish to define is a threat to larger society. All of their experiments were massive failures which is why they are A) public knowledge, and B) heavily redacted. The CIA are not advanced humans or massively big brain individuals, they are just regular human beings just like you and I, and they are just as prone to retardation as anyone else.

>>15961173
Whatever you say, kid. Great discussion!

>>15961179
Ok Schizo

>>15958935
Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism
by Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.
Lifton uses extensive case studies of Chinese subjects of the cultural revolution's reeducation programs to develop a theory of brainwashing. Interestingly the cultural revolution was where the term "brainwashing" was coined, from the Chinese xǐnăo (洗脑,"wash brain").

>>15961238
I should also add that he interviewed American soldiers who were captured during the Korean war and subjected to Maoist indoctrination.

>>15961181
Hey look a smarmy zoomer on the internet who's only capable of speaking in tired internet cliches. WEIRD!

>>15958912

>>15960081
>>15961100
I'm pretty sure that she's real. That one episode Where he thinks that the MMO game is real life and ignores reality to his detriment shows what his delusions are actually like. The time he was around Misaki is nothing like that really. I'm leaning towards her being real.

>>15959008
I hope that experience hasn't turned you away completely from religion, because Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior who died for our sins

>>15960081
>character is a figment of the MC's imagination

>>15961615
A delusion within a delusion. This is actually pretty common with schizophrenics.

>>15961667
This is like Ed edd n Eddy being purgatory lol you're reading in to it too much

>>15961173
I wish I was as naive as you

>>15962035
You’re worse

>>15962045
means nothing.

>>15958912
> How does it work?
Call a man 'dog' one hundred times and on 101 time he will bark.

>>15962015
I don’t know. The very fact that Misaki literally comes out of nowhere is a pretty clear indication she’s not real. We know already that the MC is paranoid, which again is a classic symptom of schizophrenia. All the clues are there, you just have to put them together.

>>15962015
Also, the MC uses psychedelic drugs, so that coupled with schizophrenia leads me to believe its all just one big mindtrip delusion.

> The novel also regularly mentions drug use by the main character, and later, his friend, Yamazaki. This element of the story is downplayed in the manga (drugs Satō uses are referred to as "legal psychedelics purchased off the internet"), and left out of the story altogether in the anime (with the exception of Hitomi).

>>15962388
>>15962410
> schizophrenia
It is an artificially created term to tag people who behave 'weird'. Nature dosen't have tags for things. Look in the Bible “Adam naming the animals"