/lit/ - Literature

He meant that he's a fucking LEECH

it means i OWN these digits

>>15949844
holy based...

>>15949844

>>15949818

REEEE GIVE ME YOUR MONEY

>>15949818
It means you got filtered

>>15949818
it means you don't have to get a job. you can just be a fucking parasite.

>Let's kill or otherwise push out and disown all the poor or indigenous people who have lived here for generations so we can build golf clubs, condos and casinos!
Hmm I wonder. No really it's so hard to grasp!

>>15949818
He is speaking specifically about land, not labor-generated wealth. All property traces back to primitive accumulation, and primitive accumulation is straightforwardly theft.

>>15949818
to be robbed you need property first.

Theft from whom?

>>15949818
Literal nonsense. Property cannot be theft because theft is an act and property is a noun. Asserting property is not an aggressive act.

>buh buh buh
No. Anyone who asserts that private property is theft is simply lying. Theft literally means the seizure of private property, PERIOD. The very act of using the word "Theft" requires that you acknowledge private property rights. Acknowledging private property rights completely contradicts the claim that property is Theft. Period.

There is zero ambiguity. There is no room for discourse. Either you support theft or you do not--I.E., either I shoot you in the belly for trying to steal from me, or you don't try to steal from me. Thank God the Left got blown the fuck out so hard that we don't need to reiterate this stupid conversation over and over anymore.

>>15949952
you can see that this concept of property is somewhat alien to how humans must have functioned for most of our prehistory though. It is even alien when you consider how families and extended families have tended to operate. There is a unit of social organization to which property belongs, whether individual, familial, tribal, communal, social, national, etc. As was pointed out above land is really at the root of the issue here, territory, which was prehistorically a tribal 'possession'.

Obviously our cities and countries are not tribes, but they are also not in the state of violent warfare or territorial exclusion that prehistorical tribes had towards each other. We have little pockets of our own territory nested within a greater labyrinth of national territory. This national territory also has a bunch of goods and institutions that are supposed to be collectively owned, and even your own personal territory is taxed and so on, so the boundary between what you own and what you don't is honestly a bit vague.

I think property rights are necessary for anything to function really, but the exact nature of the property rights you have in such a complex society are by no means unambiguous.

>>15949844
Checked
>>15949818
>I shouldn't have stuff
>Don't take my stuff
o I'm laffin
>>15949952
Now do how even arguing implies property because you let me own my vocal cords

>>15949952
Theft is a noun.

>>15949934
From me.

>>15949952
>Property cannot be theft because theft is an act and property is a noun.
Stopped reading right there. Go back to /b/ or wherever you came from, brainlet.

>>15950112
Theft is an act that violates someone's private property. There is no distinction between private and personal property that is not totally arbitrary.

Theft therefore is defined as an action that antagonizes someone else. To own property is inherently passive.

The low IQ sophistry going on in this thread is just more evidence that I'm right. Nobody bothers arguing the obvious point that people can own things and that taking those things is wrong.

>>15950257
Individual property rights are spooks. By claiming property you are by definition depriving others of resources. Hence, theft.

>>15949818
he meant that property, a short term for "owning the means of production", should not belong to anyone.

>>15950257
>To own property is inherently passive.

I know, I passively own the moon myself

>>15950382
There are no such thing as spooks. Stirner wasn't a real philosopher which is why he's in the garbage pail of history where he belongs.

>>15950484
No you do not. Notice that you can claim that you own my property, and I can kill you for trying to assert that claim, but you can also claim to own the moon and then do fucking nothing with it. In the real world, merely asserting something is meaningless.

>>15950418
The distinction between private and personal property isn't real. It's situational and it means that Jews will just starve you to death.