/lit/ - Literature

Not only can you judge a book by it's cover, it's preferable.

>>15925771
I can't read without a beverage. If its morning ill have coffee and water, if its night ill have a decaf or a beer. One time I was in the university library and I had a few chapters to read but I forgot my water bottle so I just skipped the class and went home.

Arm chair with slight recliner and leg rest up, book open at face level with elbow of the hand that's holding it resting on the wrist of opposite hand, which is resting slightly on your stomach.

Also, Alice Munro is a great short story writer.

>>15925771
I think the arguments that brassier and fisher exposed against land thinking, in that 2010 speech, were wrong, ideologically (fisher) and theorethically (brassier) slant.

Video > text

>>15925771
Women have never written anything of worth.

If you bare-ass fart into a book and close it quickly, you can trap the smell inside almost indefinitely.
A nifty trick when you decide to sell your old used books.

We should recommend doorstoper novels instead of novellas to people interested in getting into literature.

>>15925823
If the publisher can't be asked to make a nice and fitting cover, it probably means the book is meritless shit and only made for profit.

I am a Mormon Marxist analytic.

>>15926159
I have a crush on a mormon girl. How fucked up am i?
Also
>analytic marxist mormon

We all know English isn't worth reading because *nglish is filthy anglo-israeli speak, so this isn't controversial
however the other addition to this is that fr*nch shouldn't also be learnt nor read cause it sounds really fucking gay

War and Peace is boring and stupid. I don't give a shit that everyone in Moscow loves Natasha and thinks she's adorable, nor do I care that on the 14th of August General Vladivostok moved his armies 20 versts south along the Dneiper

Women write better prose, but men have better plots.

>>15926200
Read Pynchon or Gass and then tell me women write better prose

>>15926182
>How fucked up am i?
You're fine. Ask her out.

The Hues and Portuguese shill mostly overrated writers. Same goes for Latinos and Spaniards.
They also act like insufferable assholes on this board and nobody should follow their recommendations.

>>15926228
poor babby can't into romance language works that aren't french
stick to your shitty translated russian sappy drivel, pleb

For every novel with a good plot from a female author i've read, a man had written it first and better.

>>15926227
She has 3 older brothers. How intimate can mormons be?

>>15926242
>hardly mastered the language
>derides English
>in an English speaking website
Anon, hablo con conocimiento de causa.

>>15926258
i am esl out of principle, i refuse to speak this disgusting zionist language any further than needed to get my points across

The modern movie and TV show have made books effectively obsolete.

Novels aren't novel.

Los españoles me caen mal. Son mal hispanohablantes y son mal europeos. No deberian existir.

>>15926278
They were called novels in the 18 century
>>15926269
As an entertainment, yes, ad a way of learning and cultivating one self, no and they never will

People on /lit/ read non fiction and philosophy as real life user manual just to shut other people up.

>>15926283
Lima and Mexico City speak a purer Spanish than Spain. Same with the United States speaking a purer English than Britain. No joke, that's what the linguist historians confirm. Those Euros decided to fake-posh up their accents after their colonies rebelled.

The Japanese have never produced a good novel. Arguably, they haven't even produced a single good piece of art.

Shakespeare should only be reffered to as mc shaky p

>>15926302
>Lima, Callao
No

>>15926283
Sólo el boludo de G*ppy podría decir algo así.

>>15926308
>Soseki, Kawabata, Mishima, Oe
>not good
Fuck off.

>>15926317
>Callao
El Callao.

>>15926308
>the tale of genji

>>15926302
>the colonies speak a more "pure spanish" when to begin with it was an andalucian spanish they spoke while the literal birth place of spanish, Castilla y León speak a spanish variant
lmaoing at your life
go read some critical theory while you believe the shit they put in your head you dumb golem

Romans were better than the Greeks in both poetry and prose

>>15926333
No

>>15926250
I mean she's probably gonna be a wait until marriage person if she's a Mormon

>>15926308
Nah

Also, modern fiction is so formulaic its disgusting. Even the supposed great writers of our time have garbage brains full of TV tropes and pre-established philosophy wank.

We can't blame everything on capitalism. Maybe we're just dumber nowadays

>>15925771
It's perfectly acceptable to never finish a book if you don't like it.

The logical positivists were right

>>15926308
i mean im going to assume you dont know japanese which makes it very hard to, you know, read japanese.
I would have to concur, every single book ive read in arabic is absolute shit, although i know zero arabic, i just know that the book is shit

>>15926392
Please don't be serious

>>15926412
They were right when they admitted that they were wrong.
Cool guys though.

>>15926228
>The Hues and Portuguese shill mostly overrated writers. Same goes for Latinos and Spaniards.
No

>They also act like insufferable assholes on this board and nobody should follow their recommendations.
Yes

>>15925823
100% THIS

>>15926308
Weebs are seething, good job anon

>>15926412
They were wrong, but everybody should read Carnap's Aufbau anyway.

Prose in romance languages are better than prose in germanics by deafault

>>15926447
>"..." in romance languages are better than germanics by deafault
you got that right

>>15926392
How is this controversial?

I've never read a book over 200 pages long that needed to be that length.

>>15926219
>pynchon has good prose

It's OK to read the brief contents and description of most important literature and read the actual book only if you strongly want it now.

i went through college withouth picking up a single shakespeare text, and i'll keep it that way. very overrated and shitty. chaucer is much better

I'm slowly learning that the only comfortable reading experiences are small sturdy hardbacks that stay open easily and ereaders. I don't like admitting it but you can read in so many great positions with a kindle.

>>15926242
Exhibit A. Don’t get me started on the South American Borges fags.

>>15925942
How is this controversial?

>>15925771
fix your posture comrade

>>15926347
>>15926302
the real answer is somewhere in between. colonies retain some aspects of an older dialect that the motherland lost, but also developed new ones too. brits of 1700, wouldnt sound exactly like modern american or British. they would probably be rhotic like most general american accents, but other features might be more in line with general british. not to mention the wider veriety if dialects bqck then, but i am refering to high dialects of the educated.

>>15925942
Frankenstein?

>>15926269
This is not controversial. You only have to see kids on the bus or on other places, parents just give them a fucking tablet from such an early age. Making kids dumb.

>>15926352
I agree.

>>15925771

Story is important. If you don't have a good story, you can't have a good, satisfying ending. This is what is wrong with almost every modern book.

>>15926392
While I kinda agree with this, there's been occasions where I thought the book was boring but I didn't wanna stop reading it, so I skimmed through it a bit and then got more interesting.

>>15927863
You're just dumb. Do you even like reading?
Don Quijote for example?

Ovid, Cicero and many other Latin «great» authors are boring and greatly overrated due to their influence.

In the past, art was constantly pushing for freer and freer expression (i.e. pushing the bounds of propriety), but there were other equally powerful forces (mainly religion) pushing back against it, so a fairly healthy equilibrium was maintained.

Now, the latter forces have mostly been removed, but art is still pushing as hard as ever, and the result is bad. Art should be censored ruthlessly for vulgarity & obscenity. It would produce better art and a better society.

tl;dr Lady Chatterley's Lover should be banned.

>>15925771
There is no shame reading Harry Potter as an adult, it has the purpose of being a simple and lightweight story, with characters everyone can relate to. It wasn't created to appeal to heavy philosophical or even themes too deep rooted in morality, but as something people could naively enjoy and identify with. Hating on HP is the same thing as hating on a regular kids book just because it isn't as profound as Brothers Karamazov.

>>15928044
Wow. Wtf.
Chaucer is obviously great but surely if you like him, how can you not like Shakespeare? That's sad. I wouldn't trust anyone who says Shakespeare is shit.

>>15928197
No

>>15926250
Mormonism forbids dating, so you are probably out of luck.

>>15928201
There is shame on it. And it is mostly because adult people who like it just make it their main personality trait and are just obsessed with books that were written for kids. Like come on, you're an adult now. You can't get upset everytime an adult says they don't like Harry potter
The Lord of the Rings is a better series anyway.

>>15928215
Yes.

reading out-loud is the only way to read

>>15928235
Well but that's a problem with every popular book I would say. I've met more than one person who made Dosto and Nietzsche books, as well as their themes, their whole personality and were as insufferable as HP fanboys. I would guess it happens more with HP, but the problem aren't the books themselves or their literary merit, but how people start worshipping something they could slightly relate to because now it makes them a "book person".

politics should go to /pol/, genre fiction to /tg/ and youtubers to /tv/

>>15928195
>You're just dumb. Do you even like reading?
I'm reading several texts right now, including a Hemmingway which is under 200 pages.
From personal experience most of what I've read over 200 pages wasted a lot of time on inane bullshit that was unimportant.
That being said, I read a lot of works that are made up of smaller mostly-self-contained books such as religious texts and folklore lit a la Le Morte D'Arthur.
I haven't read Don Quijote mostly because I haven't studied Spanish in quite awhile though at one point I was decent enough to read entry-level texts. I'm kinda waiting for that urge to flair up again in which I'll probably use that book as a main driver of relearning the language. It'll just be a bit more tedious than my current reads because while I have a decent grasp on sentence structure and conjugation, I'm sure I'll be needing to consult a dictionary repeatedly.

>>15925771
I've legit thought about buying one of these because it seems like it might be the best position.

>>15928223
>Mormonism forbids dating
Literally the opposite, they push dating on singles after age 16 and have young single adult wards for the purpose of making them date, and put pressure on singles to marry. They recommend dating a lot. What they forbid is sex before marriage, like the rest of Abrahamic religion normally does.

>>15925823
>>15926103
dont judge a book by its cover is usually said in a positive way but i read HoL bcuz its cover and it was painfully awful

blood meridian is just okay

>>15925771
I am capable of separating the art from the artist and enjoying works from people who hold opinions I disagree with.
I don't believe in god