/lit/ - Literature

>>15899066
Unfortunately, yes.

if they want to sell books they will
but most of these introductions come from scholars and the only pop author that has an scholar so far is stephen king ( i don't remember his name). Otherwise it won't be uncommon to see segments of harry potter in a fantasy or children literature anthology, where it belongs

>>15899066
>the thought scares me
Why? Popular writers like Stephen King are a great reflection of the time in which they were writing. People don't study Tarzan and shit like that because of the excellent prose or the well-developed characters, they study it because of the huge impact it had on our culture and collective imagination

>>15899066
Unironically there will be critical editions of Stephen King and Rowling, if our society continues to exist. It will take about 60 years though. These authors will go through absolute dearth of readership for several decades before that though.

>>15899066
Yes but the good news is assuming Shueisha doesn't pull a Disney we will get Jojo being published by Oxford and Penguin.

>>15899323
Jojo sucks ass.

>>15899544
Yes that's why it's good news.

>>15899544
Parts 2 and 4 are great. I'm not a fan of the rest though.

>>15899323
Where on earth did you get the idea that Oxford and Penguin would ever publish a manga?

>>15899577
Money.

>>15899066
Harry Potter definitely will. Some of King's books might. I don't think Hunger Games will, most of those young adult hits get forgotten quickly.
I also think we'll see fancy arthouse labels remaster some Marvel movies in 50 years or so.

>>15899570
Those are peak Reddit Jojo

>>15899577
Penguin publishes all sorts of weird shit

>>15899066
Imagine Nick Land's works being published with a pretty penguin cover

>>15899066
>hack genre writers

>>15899066
Is LOTR never got the Oxford treatment, then HP certainly won’t. It’s not a matter of how much time passed, or even how much influence it had at the time it was written. It’s what some hack publisher thinks they can make money on decades after a book has long since been forgotten. You think anyone read Tarzan back when it was published? It was shit then, and it’s shit now. HP is shit now and it will always be shit.

>>15899953
correct

>>15899066
If the books can last a long time in the public mind, then you might see some books by writers like King in series like this (more likely Penguin, they already print some genre fiction as classics). It would be many decades away, though, and it would just be some of the 'major' books.

Alternatively, writers like King could also completely fade from view after they've been dead a couple of decades. There's plenty of popular writers from the 19th and 20th centuries who were huge at the time but are now entirely forgotten - not only are there no Oxford editions for them, but they've been out of print completely for many decades. Lovecraft, Buchan, Burroughs, etc are just the lucky few whose books have managed to survive.

>>15900334

Agree on the others, but Lovecraft was influential enough to justify not being lumped in with the others imo. As for the actual question, my feeling is that society is going to stagnate somewhat as we enter a permanent age of information. After a certain point, there won't be any new classics (the current generation might be the last) as the world becomes increasingly homogeneous and we enter the era of the global village and whatever comes after. Not the way I want it, but it seems inevitable.

>>15900508
Lovecraft being influential doesn't make him a better author. If it did then Jules Verne would still dwarf him and John Buchan would have a shout too.

Verne suffers from some very serious translation problems in every edition available in english. Not only is the english not representative and terrible, huge chunks are edited out. In France Verne is considered one of the greats along with Hugo. If any of these writers deserves a scholarly translation it is Verne.

>>15899323
Official Jojo releases in English are trash for the simple reason that the English release insists on changing the names of so many characters because of some retarded fear of getting sued.

>>15900527

Being influential is more important for being a classic than being well-written. An analogue might be accepting that Marx is canon philosophy despite being retarded in every way.

>>15900803
>Being influential is more important for being a classic than being well-written.
Cringe bugman opinion.

>>15900508
>Agree on the others, but Lovecraft was influential enough to justify not being lumped in with the others imo.
I'd argue that Derleth's Lovecraft is more "influential" going by your standards, since not a single person has actually taken footnotes from Lovecraft's style himself because to be blunt it's an inferior copy of Poe. Please do not misconstrue this as praise for Derleth either.

>>15899066
>Jules Verne, and other hack genre writers
You ought to be beaten to death in public.

>>15899653
Will they publish watchmen?

>>15900508
Jules verne was more influential.

>>15899099
This

>>15899099
>collective imagination
Sure thing, comrade.

>>15899066
These books had carved out their own special niche, they were on to something very different from their predecessors. Using modern values to judge them makes little sense given how well they've manifested into common culture and how far reaching their influence has been (on a literary level). Verne has been influential to many great artists, notable ones being Rimbaud, Mauriac, Cocteau, Perec, Tolkien and Saint-Exupéry. His plotting is first rate and his books serve as a valuable manual for writing inventive popular fiction. His scientific influence has also been immense. Wouldn't be implausible to assume that a good
deal of people who decided to go to STEM did so because of his portrayal of science.
If those King or Potter books had done something special (they did, it just wasn't related to changing or defining literary taste. Mediocre books have always been popular) they would've gotten this treatment long ago. King has been writing since the 70s, you would've seen a appeal to Canonisation soon after, reason you didnt is because it wasn't worth it and would make little sense.