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Why was Nietzsche referenced in Yugioh?

>> No.15886745

because nips are cringe westernaboo with no culture of their own

>> No.15886747

>>15886705
because the animators are trying to virtue signal

>> No.15886778
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Why wouldn't Nietzsche be referenced in Yugioh?

>> No.15886895

Because Kaiba is a literal meme of Nietzsche.

>> No.15886994

>>15886705
Nothing makes me drop a show/manga/book faster than a Neetzsche reference, it's the absolute red flag for pseud territory.

>> No.15887009

>>15886994
..... guy, its literally a childs show about people playing CHILDRENS CARD GAMES.

i very much doubt they were trying to be deep about it. it was just to show what kind of child genius egomaniac he was.

>> No.15887021

Nips are obsessed with killing God

>> No.15887038

>>15887021
yah, noticed this, its weird. maybe somthing to do with not understanding the monotheistic position. they just see him as a tyrannical extra powerful mortal rather than a axiomatic entity if existence.

>> No.15887050

>>15886705
Because animators/writers are real people with interests

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>> No.15888035

>>15887021
>>15887038
I always had a suspicion that the japanese fundamentally misinterpreted massive portions of western society when they began their modernisation.

>> No.15888045

>>15888035
that's what happens when you read translations

>> No.15888053

>>15887991
I thought this was angel densetsu, was so goddamn confused lmao

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>>15888035
i read pick related who worked and lived in japan while modernization happened and he basically said the same thing. good book btw. nip students never seemed to think critically or tried to understand the why. never volunterally put their hand up to ask a question. they did it largely for the grade and social prestige. never wanting to learn why, but how. little curiosity. and this was comming from an absolute japanophile who studied their culture intensely and even married yellow. even thought the introduction of christianity to japan was a mistake.

>> No.15888132

>>15888035
“Western Society” post-1945 is NOT the same as it was pre-1945. Japanese took from the continental tradition, not the analytic one.

>> No.15888151

>>15888132
>Japanese took from the continental tradition, not the analytic one.
what the fuck are

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>>15888114
I believe you about their lack of curiosity, but it really makes me wonder how creativity originated in their society. They've been innovating constantly in electronics, engineering, automotives, food science, transportation, all sorts of shit. They're talented artists, created their own forms of jazz and their history of great film directors is top 3 worldwide.. Do they just tinker a lot in solitude?

>> No.15888277

>>15888132
no, its just the jap mindset which is still very much a pre liberal one. anyways, if that were true they wouldnt have such retarded reductionist takes on anything even remotely conceptual. make good art pieces tho.

>> No.15888330

>>15888252
i would highly recommend the book if you havent read. its okd, but it really illucidated the japanese mindset from a sociological as well as philosophical point of view. its not that they are devoid of “creativity”, but its that they have internalized the structures of their society so intensly and over such a long period with so little social upheaval that a type of strong completely naturalized traditionalism is engrained into the mind. it produces a wonderful sense of aesthetics and productive value. probably some nazi’s wet dream. the indivigual and the community is by an large synchronized. this is neither meant to be a admonishment or a praise btw.

you can get the book on Librivox for free. i even google translated a lot if japanese reviews to see their thoughts and they largely agree.

>> No.15888388

>>15886705
kaiba embodies nietzsche perfectly.

>> No.15888866

>>15888330
>but its that they have internalized the structures of their society so intensly and over such a long period with so little social upheaval that a type of strong completely naturalized traditionalism is engrained into the mind. it produces a wonderful sense of aesthetics and productive value. probably some nazi’s wet dream. the indivigual and the community is by an large synchronized.
If only the west was like this

>> No.15889204

>>15888866
i kinda agree ngl. actual felt really bad about it after reading. and the author gad such high hopes for the west too.

>> No.15889245

>>15889204
the shock of prewar optimism on the modern mind is a fucking bitch.

>> No.15889249

>>15886705
>overthrew his father's company at a young age
>became an absolute titan with even greater influence than his father
>revolutionized the world with his genius innovations in technology
>imposed his love for the game "Duel Monsters" onto the world to the point it became a global sensation
>rejects the course destiny has imposed upon him, setting his own values
>kills a God
>responsible for an entire academy dedicated to his game of choice
>sends cards out into space to ensure civilizations from other worlds will learn of duel monsters
>entire civilizations in distant galaxies flourish because of this
>invented technology that allows him to meet the Pharaoh in the afterlife to have one final game
>also a nerd
Very Nietzsche.

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Japs love Nitzsche

>> No.15889708

Am I banned

>> No.15889880

Makes you think

>> No.15889888

>>15888151
>what the fuck are
Continental Philosophy iwas the philosophy which was popular on the European Mainland, whereas analytic philosophy was the philosophy popular in the United Kingdom and USA.

The defeat of Fascism spelled the end of Continental philosophy in western Europe, but in eastern Europe it lived on via Marxism which is an outgrowth of Hegelianism. Japan modernized via importing concepts of continental philosophy from Prussia and Germany.