/lit/ - Literature

>>15817190
Aristotle

>>15817190
aristotle you nigger who else would it be?

>>15817190
Nicomachean Ethics then read a 300 page history of philosophy that engages you. Very biased one's like Ben Shapiro's right side of history are fine. The point is to engage w philosophy like the news wants you to engage w their politics

>>15817205
This

>>15817231
Lmao don't read Shapiro. He's a lawyer and public debater who really doesn't know shit about the period. Just read Peter Adamson's books or listen to the relevant episodes of his series, The History of Philosophy without any Gaps. They are academic level but also beginner friendly.

If you want something a little more difficult, I'd recommend Anthony Kenny's A New History of Western Philosophy, volume I.

>>15817190
Read
Plato > Kant > Schopenhauer
and then stop

The Holy Quran

>>15817613
No I read anthony Kenny. It is boring, there is no narrative. The point of philosophy is to find and engage w other metaphysics. This sterile, here's what was said let's leave it, crap is why it's become ivory tower. Ben Shapiro is biased and you know his biases so if you want to see philosophy through his metaphysics, one you might find palatable at that, then read his.

>>15817613
My issue w ak is I wanted a scholastic interpretation of it all and got none except for some interpretations on Darwin. Plus he's not very well read on all these philosophers. He skips conties almost entirely and again the historicism is terribly uninteresting

>>15817696
Cringe

>>15817613
The point is to engage w philosophy. If you find you dont remember shit or that it just seems like you're learning how other ppl think then you aren't engaging w it. If there was a good history of philosophy by a left winger (I haven't read Russell's yet and he was a bit too critical of Aristotle for me to recc him if you preferred Aristotle) then I'd recc that. Politics takes most if not all of their ideas from philosophy

I've never read aristotle and it hasn't been any kind of obstacle to reading any other philosophers after him. Take from that what you will OP.

If you want to understand philosophy you need to understand Kant and Heidegger. When you study Kant you will inevitably become aware of Hume, Spinoza, Hegel, and so on... These are like winding mountain paths. You will eventually reach the zenith of Kant through kant and through the thinkers that surrounded him in that historical moment... But when you do you will see the looming peak of Heidegger, and you must then navigate yourself to that final summit. You'll take detours, loop back around, climb, descend. But eventually by understanding Heidegger and Kant, you will have understood all modern philosophy, and so will have the grounding needed to tackle contemporary philosophy.

the only logical continuation

>>15817190
Wrong way. You should have started with the pre-socratics

>>15818192
Which pre socratic work do you recommend

suicide

>>15818415
Truth by Portagoras and then the completed works of Thrasymachus

I'd like to help you out but I don't feel like it.

>>15818418
Been there tried that. It's remarkably difficult and expensive

>>15817719
Since when was that the point of philosophy? Lmao philosophy is much broader than that.

>>15818415
I think parmenides, heraclitus is fine. If you want to dive deeper then pythagoras had a huge influence on some of Plato's dialogues, particularly Timaeus. An interesting guy besides that is Empedocles and Anaximander and Anaximenes. Besides them an overview is fine and the last three are if you're looking for different instances of your own metaphysics that may align with them (like if your metaphysics is concerned w entropy and what underlies it empedocles love strife plus heraclitus is good to see older interpretations or applications of it)

>>15818446
Philosophy is simply about metaphysics and its derivatives. The point of man is to engage.

Apply what you've learned.

>>15818756
What I learned is that totalitarianism rules and democracy is for the chikdish simpletons. If we lived in Plato's Republic, Rose's kids would have probably been beheaded and their heads mounted on pikes.

>>15818756
Someone like officer fatty is not the philosopher king or even in the philosopher class. He would be taking orders from me.