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15807561 No.15807561 [Reply] [Original]

Is there a book for a 20 yr old that feels like all he wants is to get jacked and fight people? to be free, ride the open world horseback, hunt, lift heavy weights and fight every single day? am i gay? are these normal fantasies?

I want to destroy my body, physically I want to take it to its limit, I want to perfect it in an aesthetic sense, as much as in strenght, but then I want to ruin it with fighting, I want to damage it as much as possible.

>> No.15807578
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>>15807561
You are describing Yukio Mishima

>> No.15807585

>>15807561
The way you’re phrasing it you’re definitely some kind of latent something, this is like DSM level attention seeking behavior. That being said it’s good to be fit minus the masochism, and it’s good to fight people as long as your fighting for a good cause.

>> No.15807597

>>15807578
>>15807585

>DSM level attention seeking behavior

>> No.15807603

>>15807585
>it’s good to fight people as long as your fighting for a good cause.
Everyone thinks that the cause they are killing for is good. Good is just a word made up to justify violence upon the other.

>> No.15807624

>>15807585
If it gave off that vibe, it was not my intention. I don't seek any sort of attention.

>> No.15807636

>>15807578
Where should I start with Yukio?

>> No.15807654

>>15807561
>am i gay?
>>15807578
>You are describing Yukio Mishima
Apparently you are

>> No.15807656

>>15807636
Sun&Steel
Confession of a Mask
The Temple of the Golden Pavilion

>> No.15807658

>>15807561
>>15807624
You should check out Mishima. The Temple of the Gold pavilion is perfect for you and a fucking masterpiece of writing.

>> No.15807670

>>15807561
if other anons also want to analyze this, I also want to scream, scream to let something out, don't know what, these feelings have been on my mind for a while. Sometimes I picture myself in the middle of a forest, and I'm there alone, the body is sculpted like an ancient diety, but it's thorn with cuts from head to toe, I think im just gay.

>> No.15807671

>>15807636
The Temple of the Gold Pavilion is what I was going to recommend.

>> No.15807679

>>15807561
Xenophon's Anabasis

>> No.15807685

>jojo
The Big Book of Reddit

>> No.15807690

>>15807671
>>15807658
>>15807656
>>15807654

Will order tonight, thank you.

>> No.15807700

>>15807636
Confession of a Mask if you don't mind struggling with homosexuality alongside a pure distillation of exactly what you're looking for.

>> No.15807701

I‘m reading Raging Bull and like that a lot. If you decide not to be a fag that is.

>> No.15807703

>>15807624
I know it has this bad connotation but it’s very common. It sounds like you want to be fit for others not your yourself (yes, for yourself, so you can be confident, but your confidence comes from how others perceive you). To say it’s common would be an understatement, and if you own it instead of being “oh I’m not attention seeking” it can do wonders for your mental and physical health. It’s by no means a bad thing. Just my 2 cents.

>> No.15807716

>>15807561
Read Henry Rollins diaries

>> No.15807734

>>15807703
I see nothing wrong with what you wrote, but, to speak what I think is truth, when I try to look for the reason for my inclination I only see a selfish goal for what can only describe as eternal beauty, something that would mesmerize, almost blind, but it has to be destroyed, it's at that moment where it fulfills it's purpose. But it's selfish. I really don't care for others here.

>> No.15807744
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>>>/reddit/
>>>/fit/

>> No.15807781

>>15807561
I would definitely suggest buttsex because
a) nobody is as relentlessly judgemental
b) aesthetics are best judged by people who are also in the position of rival
c) nobody will mock you too much for the horses and hunting thing, some of them will be into it
d) you will ruin assholes and see yours ruined
e) you are already a faggot

>> No.15807841

>>15807703
Everyone only does things for other people it's called signalling, it's the reason anyone does anything. Some may delude themselves and say they do things "for themselves" but no, if it was only you in the world you wouldn't bother doing much of anything

>> No.15807855

>>15807561
I wish I had a good reason to become fit besides lifting for girls. I find it too pathetic and that's why I don't commit myself to be fit.

>> No.15807864

>>15807855
>I find it pathetic
How so?

>> No.15807866

>>15807561
Op here, after ordering the temple of the golden pavilion I came across https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaqVv5j0m48 and watched it.
How? How is it possible that I feel so far as I can see exactly what he felt. I'm in for a ride with mishima. who is this man.

>> No.15807867

>>15807841
That’s what I’m saying, better to recognize that fact and own up to it and use it to your benefit

>> No.15807879

>>15807561
Take an MMA class at a gym with pro fighters and come back to us

>> No.15807894

>>15807864
I'm trying to diminish my lust and I know when I'm lifting I'm doing it for girls.

>> No.15807899

>>15807585
hey anon, where did your bachelors in psychology get you in life?

>> No.15807903

>>15807734
I’m all for eternal beauty as well, but a man can’t be eternally beautiful, that quality belongs only to what you consider the divine. You can make yourself beautiful out of respect for eternal beauty, and you can strive to make yourself more beautiful than others, but not eternally beautiful. Nor can you destroy that which is eternally beautiful. Based on what you just wrote though, you would love Ahab.

>> No.15807941

>>15807899
Double major with English, I’m a teacher deciding to go to grad school for that, psych, or education.

>> No.15807955

>>15807899
But just FYI, psych is very helpful for teaching English to 14 year olds, way more than English.

>> No.15807972

>>15807955
why is it helpful for that?

>> No.15808034

>>15807972
Just makes it easier for me to understand where they are coming from/why they react certain ways

>> No.15808042

>>15808034
don't lie to me anon, that is called empathy + remember what it was like to be 14.

>> No.15808773

>>15808042
Yeah for being a good teacher that’s really what matters, but it’s still fund development psych stuff especially things about parenting helpful for how I interact with these kids, like I can pick up what their home life might be like a lot of the time from talking about them and respong appropriately. I studied psych because it’s what I liked in hs though and it was easy enough to double major.

>> No.15808831

What psychologists do you like the most or recommend somebody read to further their understanding of it.
I have only read Freud and Jung who I enjoyed a lot but I understand that they are out of fashion in academia.

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>>15807561
>>15807636
Confessions of a Mask to start with, then I'd either go Golden Pavilion, or A Tale of Two Tsunderes if you'd like to read the entire Sea of Fertility.

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i know this isn't a manga board but Berserk sounds right up your alley

>> No.15810823

>>15808831
>psychologists
Get that feminine weak pedantic bullshit out of my face.

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>>15807585
>paying attention to jewish pseudo science
>not realizing psychology is just a psy-op to get normal people to buy pills and pacify themselves.
>Its perfectly natural for men to want to fight due to healthy competition
>only jews dont like this because their psychology is rooted in not working and manipulating people so naturally they would develop a twisted sense of what healthy mental behaviour is and try to force everyone to go alone with it.

Theres a difference between violently beating people up for the sake of power and healthy competion where men agree to fight each other for the sake of self improvement of their martial arts and fitness in every sense.

>> No.15811681

>>15807561
Conan short stories.