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Could Kaczynski's "Industrial Society and its Future" be considered a modern-day manifesto of philosophical cynicism?

>> No.15791263

More like a manifesto of deranged lunacy. To be a philosophical cynic you have to be able to think. Ted is too intellectually empaired for thinking.

>> No.15791273

No. But it is a pretty good read. Kaczynski makes some excellent criticisms, and more importantly, he's able to distil his thinking into the language of the layman.

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>>15791230
I don't know if I would call it a work OF cynicism, but it certainly is a philosophical dissection of industrial capitalism and how it has impacted human society. Ted doesn't glorify an un-industrial society. He spends a good amount of time in Technological Slavery dismantling anarchoprimitivists. His underlying argument seems to be that, while it would still be bad, it's the lesser of two evils. He's basically calling for a grand trade-off of technological comfort in exchange for the true autonomy (and chaos) found in nature.

>> No.15791308

>>15791230
I don’t think Ted is a cynic. He’s more of a
disappointed idealist.

>> No.15791366

>>15791230
If by a "cynic" you mean a strain of Greek philosophy of Diogenes of Sinope, then your comparison is semi-valid. But Diogenes had never encountered such a monstrosity as the industrial society.

>> No.15791399

>>15791366
Yes, that is what is meant.

>> No.15791471

>>15791399
Well, they both idealize Nature as the best kind of order for a man to live in but for different reasons. If memory serves me right, Diogenes suggested that the law of Nature is more just than that of the State and Ted argued that Nature doesn't disrupt the psychological power process of human beings. Diogenes attacked the ethical side of culture while Ted criticized the economical aspect.