/lit/ - Literature

>>15781504
don't care, still voting trump

true, now what

<isekai
dropped

>>15781512
Keep your politics out of my novels.

>>15781528
Read last sentence.

>>15781504
most light novels have prose that can only be described as "fucking horrible"
this may be due to poor translation, or it may be due to the soullessness of east asian languages

>>15781504
this but unironically

>>15781539
>most light novels have prose that can only be described as "fucking horrible"
I read the post. The post's words were reflected in my eyes. The words, which came off the post, entered my brain. I was processing the information in the post. Fucking horrible? Those were the words in the post. I had read the words "fucking horrible" in that post. Fucking horrible? Was the post talking about light novels? The post was talking about light novels. My heart was beating...

>>15781539
I know that, I even acknowledged it on the OP, I read Zeroth Maria before Re:Zero and found the writing utterly terrible and disgusting, and that's why I can say with confidence that Re:Zero's writing is much better than in other light novels, of course it's not innovative or extremely original by any means, but it's decent, it's on par with most of the good novels in the fantasy genre.

>>15781559
You would describe the writing simultaneously as "on par with most of the good novels in the fantasy genre" and as "peak fantasy"?

>>15781504
Fuck I hate Subaru, if I was the protagonist I would make the best of the situation like a true chad. No consequences, jesus... Is it so fucking much to ask for some proper fucking degeneracy instead of this pathetic simping?

>>15781573
He said
>it's on par with most of the good novels in the fantasy genre
Surely, that doesn't mean "on par with Peake and Crowley". That means passable. You are supposed to approach this as quality popcorn, not as a work of art. The presence of *some* literary value is an added bonus, to make you feel less disgusted with yourself.

Anyway, I would agree that in the context of contemporary Isekai garbage this can be read as a brutal critique of the idealized NEET hero and the whole world-view propagated by weebs.

>>15781573
There's more to a novel, especially in the fantasy genre, than its writing, and Re:Zero nails almost every other aspect that makes a fantasy novel really good.

Also, I don't really see how those two statements contradict each other...

>>15781598
Well, at the end of volume 9 there's a 30-page chapter about how his life would be if he had ran away with Rem during that time, at one point Rem says that she was surprised that he worked all day long but still have strenght at night to do naughty things. There's some other sex jokes on that chapter as well, he's a chad, man.

>>15781598
Firstly: >>15781639
Second, you're missing the point of Subaru, if he did that the entire story would collapse, his entire motivation is his love for Emilia and his unwillingness to let his friends die, it would be, if he did that it would defeat the entire point of the story, and make Subaru a completely different person. His goal isn't Emilia, it's to protect and love her. Not for glory, not for sex, not for adoration. Because he loves who she is. That's what makes the bad iterations so heart-wrenching, he really is a good person, so it hurts so much more when he gets twisted up inside and everything goes wrong and hos brain breaks only to get set back to the beginning only to watch everyone die again. Because that's who he is, suffering as long as it takes to save the people he cares about. It's a story about nobility, perseverance and love.

>>15781504
A guy in my English Lit course at Uni has a Hibike Euphonium background on the laptop he brings to class, is fat greasy and autistic, and brought a translation of one of the A Certain Magical Index light novels to a class to use a segment as an example of good prose.

>>15781713
Holy kek, now I need to read that light novel

>>15781702
Seems like literature for simp incels. I guess the author knows his audience.

>>15781702
Holy shit, your interpretation of the novel is so cringe and banal. I bet you like Tolkien, don't you? jesus fucking christ, how can people like you exist post-Cervantes?

>>15781639
>he is a chad because he does "naughty things" with his wife in a literate alternate universe

>>15781771
Don't listen to him, it is a critique of the chosen-one complex (the mentality which arises from too much consumption in the form of thinking in archetypes and narrative as opposed to proper laws of human existence). The simp incel also suffers so much so that it has become a meme.

>>15781792
>>he is a chad because he does "naughty things" with his wife in a literate alternate universe
Learn to take a joke, friend...

>>15781813
Something something Murphy's law something something you should have expected this in a website full of autists like moi

>>15781504
Only weeb thing I tried to read was the game/VN Va-11 hall-a. Stop about an hour in. Couldn't get into it despite it being really well reviewed.

Will Re:Zero actually be worth it?

I'm on volume 12 and the part where he's eaten alive by rabbits and completely goes mad when he return by death was pretty heavy to read, can't wait to see how they adapt that into the anime, I just hope they go the entire way with the gore because the descriptions on that one are pretty intense.

>>15781834
I don't think they can legally animate the rabbits crawling up his butthole.

>>15781558
10/10

>>15781831
First off, Va-11 Hall-A is venezuelan, not japanese, therefore it cannot be 'weeb'
Second off, it's a very subpar light novel, just watch Matthewmatosis review on it and you'll understand most of its shortcomings compared to other successful titles
>Will Re:Zero actually be worth it?
If you're into fantasy, then yes. The thing that impressed me the most about re zero is its world building, the author did a really good job in constructing everything and dropping the lore into the story little by little, I can't remember any other manga/LN/anime who did world building better than re zero, not even Berserk (although I still believe Berserk is more successful if we consider only plot as comparison)

Actually started watching the anime first season recently since I saw season 2 was getting out soon.

Should I just drop it altogether and read all the novels first? Is it good enough to warrant such a time investment when I have so many books on my backlog already?

>>15781869
The first two arcs of the anime were adapted without leaving anything important out, so you should just watch the first 12 episodes. But Arc 3 left out a lot of stuff out in the anime, they cut some scenes, lore, character interactions, so I'd suggest start reading from there, which start at the fourth volume of the light novel.

I personally really like it, I think you should give it a try, the light novels are short (230 pages mostly) and the writing is decent enough.

>>15781869
read something else

Serious question.

What's the age cutoff to read and get into those LN?

“Say, is this really enough for that huge body of yours? It’s not like you’re living off air, don’t tell me you’re about to say that you can survive as long as you have booze?”

“Don’t you know how efficient giants are? Despite our awesome strength, we don’t need much sustenance. We were famed across the land during the warring period, you know.”

Rom’s face was stern as he answered Subaru’s tactless question.

He then brought the bottle he had been pouring out of to his mouth, and as he drank,

“Because of this, most of us were wiped out. Even in the capital, I haven’t seen any other giants.”

“Yer strong even without eatin’, sho kewl. … Gunna throw up.”

“I’m saying something sad here and you respond like that?”

He wasn’t about to let someone’s sob story kill his mood.

As Subaru blocked his ears and interrupted the story, Rom gave up on telling it and started eating his beans.

The two of them passed their time silently eating those terrible beans as a side to their alcohol.

>this is peak fantasy

>>15781885
>first 12 episodes
Sorry, it's the first 11 actually

>>15781771
Simps worship women. Subaru Maintains a relationship with one, and fights to keep her and other people he cares about alive. But sure, anyone who does anything for a woman is a cringe simp beta-male. Go back to redpilltalk, incel.
>>15781792
No, I'm not really into tolkien, I read the hobbit once, it was boring. When you reference cervantes I assume you're alluding mainly to don quixote, because most people like you ignore his other works, you might note that the point of don quixote was that the protagonist was obsessed with chivalry to the point of vacating reality, whereas Subaru lived a fairly normal and unobtrusive life pre-isekai, he only engaged in heroics when he was literally transported into a world of magic and given a power that meant only he could save those he loved. All in all, your analysis is kinda cringe.


I get why both of you are like you are, yeah sometimes it sucks to see morally idealized people in stories, I know I'm fucking flawed, but just because the main character isn't as morally complex as the protagonist of most modern books and movies doesn't make it a bad story.

>>15781899
Post some more snippets from this thing pls

>>15781895
Considering they're made for like age 11-15 boys i'd say anything older than that is pretty cringe.

>>15781831
What was your problem with valhalla?

>>15781899
Yen Press's translation is horrible, sorry. Also, this part is better:
>He felt a burning sensation in his calf. His eyes reeled from a stimulus like flesh and bone being mercilessly raked by a file. Reddish-black bubbles poured into the middle of his throat, causing him to convulse like a fish out of water. He didn’t faint. He couldn’t. The pain was too strong for that. The pain was too strong for that. The cruel pain forced his mind to remain awake.
>Kii, kii, went the countless cries that his eardrums picked up.
>The number of these high-pitched voices was vast, and he was surrounded by presences he couldn’t bother to count. >His eyeballs were already derelict in their duty, having giving up on looking at his surroundings. That was a mercy.He was glad it was only his ears still working. He could not have borne the sight.
“”
>Fangs tore into his entire body. From the feeling of the fangs biting into him, he knew it was a horde.
>He screamed. He rolled onto his back, sending his voice toward the heavens. >That very moment, he sensed something furry enter his mouth, ripping out his tongue. His throat was violated, opening a path from his windpipe to his stomach, from which his viscera could be voraciously eaten. He was being chewed away.
>Fangs invaded from his anus, crashing inside his body against those that had entered from the mouth.

>>15781930
>>15781831
I haven't actually read VA-11HALL-A, but I'm pretty curious what would turn a dude off in this game.

I'm pretty sure the raving reviews are because of the love for the cyberBONK JAPANESE PC aesthetics

>>15781935
So >>15781925 was right. It's garbage written for edgy teens.

>>15781702
Been a while since i watched the anime, but isnt the point of subaru that he is a at heart a selfish cunt who projects onto emillia his love of himself and his need to have some sort of reason to live? The character is a colossal dick but it made him at least interesting compared to most MCs

>>15781972
Yeah, thanks for sharing your well-thought opinion on it after reading small excerpts, says a lot about your intelligence.

>>15781985
No, but it does say a lot about yours from how vehemently you defend this trash. Don't bother replying back to me until you've fully developed secondary sex characteristics.

>>15781985
Can you post a part that you like?

>>15781895
>>15781925
Re zero is originally a web novel that as picked up by an editor and made into a LN, bunch of imbeciles, can't even do a little research. The LN cuts content and makes it lightet, but the web novel doesn't really cares about things like targeted age.

>>15781908
Your analysis is kinda cringe, I actually have el coloquio de los perros which I have reread at least 5 times in my hands now. But yes, I was referring to the heroics parody, who would have thought...
I would go on to explain just how wrong you are, but for someone who has such a reductionist, white-knighting world-view it wouldn't do any good. I would advice you to read Pirandello and a bunch of midwit moral nihilists to cure yourself of this cringe mentality. Because no, conforming to the standard 21st century hypocrisy marketed as "morally idealized protagonist" is pure stupidity. For, in fact, Subaru is not morally idealized at all, and, for tat matter, the whole notion that you can identify the perfected form of morality is pure arrogance.

>>15782018
Heh, getting this triggered about a book you didn't even read, not a good look big guy.
>>15782019
Yeah, I love this part, what do you think about it?

For a long time, I went to bed early. Sometimes, my candle scarcely out, my eyes would close so quickly that I wouldn’t have time to say to myself: “I’m falling asleep.” And, half an hour later, the thought that it was time to seek sleep woke me up; I wanted to put down the book I thought I still had in my hands and blow out the light; while asleep I hadn’t stopped thinking about what I had just read, but these thoughts had taken a slightly peculiar turn; it seemed to me I was the one the work was talking about: a church, a quartet, the rivalry between François 1st and Charles V. This belief would last for a few seconds after waking; it didn’t seem shocking to me, but weighed like scales over my eyes and kept them from realizing that the candlestick was not lit. Then it would start seeming unintelligible to me, like the thoughts of a previous existence after metempsychosis; the book’s subject would slip away from me, I was free to choose whether or not to apply myself to it; I would immediately recover sight and I would be quite surprised to find darkness around me, gentle and restful for my eyes, but perhaps even more for my spirit, to which it appeared like a thing without cause, incomprehensible, like something truly obscure. I would wonder what time it could possibly be; I would hear the whistling of the trains that, more or less remote, like the song of a bird in a forest, charting the distances, would describe to me the extent of the deserted countryside where the traveler hurries towards the nearest station; and the little path he follows will be engraved in his memory by the excitement stemming from new places, unaccustomed actions, recent conversation, and the farewells under the strange lamp that follow him still in the nighttime silence, to the imminent sweetness of return.

>>15782074
kek isn't that Proust?

>>15782074
>>15782087

>>15782087
Damn, you shouldn't have said it now, I wanted to see how the guy would justify Proust being trash because he thought it was from a light novel, kek

>>15781504
>peak fantasy
>isekai
Here's your you, now fuck off.

>>15781899
>>15781935
This is terrible and slightly worse than your average YA novel.

>>15782123
That's prejudice, man.

>>15782101
That's literally opening passage (something which only a person who hasn't actually read Proust would select), I doubt you would've fooled anyone.

Why can't the work stand on its own merit? Why resort to subterfuge to make your point? In short, why are you such a faggot?

>>15782136
You do realize that the opening passage is not of the best well written ones in the history of literature, right? Trying to claim that I haven't read Proust to sustain your agenda is pathetic, there's no author that I've studied more, I could lecture you on all of the 7 books of À La Recherche du Temps Perdu.
>Why can't the work stand on its own merit?
It can, but no matter which excerpt I post you'll call it trash anyway, so I just wanted to have a bit of a laugh at your stupidity, I should have chosen a less famous passage though, oh well, whatever.

>>15782136 #
You do realize that the opening passage is one of the best well written ones in the history of literature, right? Trying to claim that I haven't read Proust to sustain your agenda is pathetic, there's no author that I've studied more, I could lecture you on all of the 7 books of À La Recherche du Temps Perdu.
>Why can't the work stand on its own merit?
It can, but no matter which excerpt I post you'll call it trash anyway, so I just wanted to have a bit of a laugh at your stupidity, I should have chosen a less famous passage though, oh well, whatever.

>>15781539
>or it may be due to the soullessness of east asian languages
they could stop treating sentences like paragraphs
that would help I imagine

>>15782195
The japanese admire brevity above all. It's a part of their culture, philosophy and history.

>>15782186
>You do realize that the opening passage is one of the best well written ones in the history of literature, right?
Said the anglo reading cheap translations

>>15782216
Are wapanese really this delusional?

>>15782131
I am also prejudiced against western "YA" schlock and it has served me well so far.

>>15782216
it makes their work look infantile since the layers of meaning don't carry over when translated

>>15782186
I'm 15782019 and I was ready to praise it...
Think your evasiveness about this LN doesn't do you any favors

>>15782225
Sure, it can serve a brainlet like you well but it's a disservice to art itself. No medium has been moved foward by holding prejudice against bold, innovative, experimental, different titles. Where would we be now if Joyce didn't experiment on Finnegans Wake because he held prejudice against experimentalism? The true artist is the one who is open to all forms without limiting himself into the things he already know were successful in the past. Within you lies the soul of a braindead conservative who gladly shuts himself in his own bubble.

>>15782224
It's not delusion, it's part of their philosophy which was shaped by hundreds of years in isolation. >>15782251
Well, Kawabata won a Nobel Prize with novels all below 300 pages (except for one I think).

>>15782285
Imagine believing this

>>15782254
Yeah, do whatever you want, it's clear by now that you choose to hate Re Zero no matter what, I doubt I'd convince you otherwise, but then again, I don't care.

>>15782186
>I should have chosen a less famous passage though, oh well, whatever.
You couldn't pick a single page in Proust that was as poorly written as the actual excerpts from this isekai shit you posted, so the difference in quality would have been obvious (Or maybe you're just a shitty reader who can't see the difference.)

Why would you even post this shitty thread here instead of /a/ or /jp/ since it's pretty obvious all you want is some circlejerk in favor of this teenage's novel? Man, imagine being so insecure you'd go home happy if at least another retard validated your shitty taste.

>>15782309
Je venais de comprendre pourquoi le duc de Guermantes, dont j’avais admiré, en le regardant assis sur une chaise, combien il avait peu vieilli bien qu’il eût tellement plus d’années que moi au-dessous de lui, dès qu’il s’était levé et avait voulu se tenir debout, avait vacillé sur des jambes flageolantes comme celles de ces vieux archevêques sur lesquels il n’y a de solide que leur croix métallique et vers lesquels s’empressent les jeunes séminaristes, et ne s’était avancé qu’en tremblant comme une feuille sur le sommet peu praticable de quatre-vingt-trois années, comme si les hommes étaient juchés sur de vivantes échasses grandissant sans cesse, parfois plus hautes que des clochers, finissant par leur rendre la marche difficile et périlleuse, et d’où tout d’un coup ils tombent. Je m’effrayais que les miennes fussent déjà si hautes sous mes pas, il ne me semblait pas que j’aurais encore la force de maintenir longtemps attaché à moi ce passé qui descendait déjà si loin, et que je portais si douloureusement en moi ! Si du moins il m’était laissé assez de temps pour accomplir mon œuvre, je ne manquerais pas de la marquer au sceau de ce Temps dont l’idée s’imposait à moi avec tant de force aujourd’hui, et j’y décrirais les hommes, cela dût-il les faire ressembler à des êtres monstrueux, comme occupant dans le Temps une place autrement considérable que celle si restreinte qui leur est réservée dans l’espace, une place, au contraire, prolongée sans mesure, puisqu’ils touchent simultanément, comme des géants, plongés dans les années, à des époques vécues par eux, si distantes — entre lesquelles tant de jours sont venus se placer — dans le Temps.

>>15782267
Damn bro ok go read another roastie's self insert road trip novel man. You will likely find them stunning and brave based on your reply.

>>15782309
>You couldn't pick a single page in Proust that was as poorly written as the actual excerpts from this isekai shit you posted
That was not the point of my post you imbecile, it was clear that no matter which excerpt I posted he would call it trash, so I posted one of the best opening passages of literature to see how he would justify it being trash.

Also, almost everything out there is poorly written compared to Proust.

>Why would you even post this shitty thread here instead of /a/ or /jp/
LNs are banned on those boards, idiot.

Is the ln better than the anime?
I watched it some time ago. I think it had potential to be great but fell to something campy and moronic.
Did they cut off some part of the novel that was required for the story to be actually good?

>>15782352
Why can't you just honestly post your favorite excerpt from the LN? If it really is peak fantasy as you attest, then shouldn't the actual work convince at least one person here to that pov? Even if you're shitposting, I'm sure you've read Peake, Tolkien, Crowley, Wolfe, Le Guin, Vance, etc. etc. what makes you think Re Zero is better than all of their works?

>>15782352
>LN's b& in /a/
>but Konosuba is allowed to be posted,as well as Oregairu, and Kumo Desu Ga, to name a few examples
Just admit you're a midwit that wants to pretend their waifu's show is literature. Don't pretend anybody cares that the threads are "for the anime" and people aren't constantly discussing the light novels for any of these better series.

>>15782352
You have no way of knowing what he would've replied. Like I said, the difference in writing would've been obvious, which was the point of MY post. They're vastly different not only in quality and density, but even in the narrator's perspective.
I read those excerpts as well as Proust and I think your novel reads like utter shit.
>LNs are banned on those boards
Oh, so you are familiar with this website's culture. You're an insecure faggot looking for yous or on par with a bronies' delusion. In either case, get the fuck out. I don't care which way.

poor op is getting ganged on

Post an excerpt in Japanese if you have the guts

>>15782445
I don't think Re Zero is better than the works of Tolkien, Wolfe and Le Guin (which are the ones I'm familiar with on that list), I just said that it's better than the average LN out there and on par with other good fantasy novels. You people are too hung up on the little joke about 'peak fantasy' that I did on the beginning as if it was the only part of the post. It wasn't serious people, let's wake the fuck up and start to understand jokes, especially if it's a joke that's famous on this site.

>>15781504
>I'm not ashamed to say that as far as fantasy is concerned, Re:Zero stands amongst the very best of the genre
>I don't think Re Zero is better than the works of Tolkien, Wolfe and Le Guin

It's all so tedious.

>>15782440
Arc 3 has a lot of lore, character interactions and scenes that were cut from the anime.

>>15781600
>There's more to a novel, especially in the fantasy genre, than its writing
This is why I don't take you genre shitters seriously.

>>15782467
Yeah, thanks, now tell me where I was saying re zero is comparable in any way to Proust or other classical authors? I even say that its writing is only decent, it's not innovative nor original, its serviceable to complement the other aspects such as the plot, world building and characters.

>>15782524
Fantasy is also about worldbuilding and characters and plot idiot something Re Zero has in spades. The prose issues ar e because of translation but even then some are passable and at the level of mainstream fantasy novels. But please go ahead and jerk off to your prooooose. It's the only thing you faggots ever think about on this board.

>>15782511
That was a little hyperbole, whatever, let's ignore all the other points, twist the words in the OP and derail the discussion to suit an agenda, right?

>>15782566
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING, IDIOT

Stand aside OP. Light novels belong to us toaruchads.

>>15782566
What other points? This?

>But damn, it gets so much less credit than it deserves, I started reading expecting mediocre writing like most light novels are, but the writing is pretty decent. As for the novel as a whole, the characters are all meticulously well constructed and likeable, the world building is extremely well done and the whole plot is amazing.

Yeah one of the most popular LN series with millions of readers and its own anime "gets so much less credit then it deserves". And you still haven't posted a single thing from the book in support of your other claims. From what's been posted so far, this trash isn't even better than your average YA novel.

>>15782581
Do you know what hyperbole means, jerk? I have no problem admitting when I exaggerate, as I did twice already. Now can you imbeciles move past that and engage in an actual discussion about the meaningful points that I made?

>>15782596
I can't get over the fact of how ugly written Japanese looks, mixing cursive and regular script like that, disgusting, the Japanese truly are the mutts of Asia

Could you share some excerpts from the novel, please?

>>15782616
You are claiming to know board culture in your posts and yet didn't expect this kind of response to your """pretending"""?

>>15782614
>Yeah one of the most popular LN series with millions of readers and its own anime "gets so much less credit then it deserves".
As if praise in the LN community which is full of weeaboos who haven't even read an actual good book means anything, I was talking about the fantasy community in general, go to the fantasy general here and ask there if people know what Re Zero is, I'd guess 2 in 10 will know and those probably only have watched the anime.
>And you still haven't posted a single thing from the book in support of your other claims. From what's been posted so far, this trash isn't even better than your average YA novel.
Yeah, yeah, believe whatever you want, whatevet I post here will be labeled as trash anyway, you people are too predictable, if you wanna see how it is, just download it and read it yourself, stop asking to be spoonfed.

>>15782630
Another random passage:

Her face, her voice, her love, Garfiel knew them all from the Trial.

And that Trial had shown him the her unfortunate death shortly after her departure. So, to Garfiel, seeing his mother again is an impossible dream.

If so, now, the woman in front of him should also be impossible.

Reala: “Mimi-san, your ears look so soft. Would it be possible for me to touch them?”

Mimi: “Please go ahead~!”

Reala happily reached out, stroking Mimi’s ears with a look of contentment.

Mimi’s smile was one only a little girl could wear. They were an odd pair, a tiny beastman and a suspicious demi-human, but they had been invited in without a second thought. This woman had simply no sense of wariness.

Such attitudes were, to Garfiel, all associated with motherliness.

His mother Reshia had been quite the unfortunate woman. Her parents had lost everything to debt, and had sold her to a group of slave traders, who had been ambushed by demi-human bandits. They had made Reala their concubine.

Somewhere along the way, she’d become pregnant with Frederica, and the bandits had put her up for sale. She’d been taken by another band of thieves and had spent a long time with them.

Frederica had grown up in that thieves regiment. Although she rarely spoke of such times, she considered Reala’s departure something to be thankful for, indicating that it had been a rather poor environment.

Suffering misfortune after misfortune, she had fortunately been rescued by the curious Roswaal.

Roswaal had made her a proposal; he would take them to Sanctuary, where they would be given safety and shelter. In Sanctuary, Lewes had become their guardian.

Life’s treatment toward her could only be summed up as ‘cruel’.

>>15782628
There's no cursive in there, pic related in cursive japanese.

Also japanese is beautiful.

>>15782649
Whatever, I don't care, I thought /lit/ was a high IQ board like /sci/.

>>15782486
It's perfectly desirable. We already get a daily dose of children asking whether manga is literature, if VNs are literature, if LNs are literature... The faggots truly invested in LNs and VNs are beyond saving, because they only care about other /a/utism related media. The least they could do is being less smug and confrontational about it.
>>15782545
Let's say you had 5 kitten and 1 full grown tiger, which stood out for obvious reasons. Someone comes your way and you offer to sell them 6 of the most amazing house pets in the world.
I never even said you were addressing or comparing their quality. Just by placing the odd one with the rest, at some level a comparison is made possible. In order to identify whether there's an odd one in the group, the seller would have to COMPARE it with the other ones.

>>15782708
Based retard, what do you think kanas are?

>>15782674
>Plainly articulate schizo tier rambling.
I don't know what to do with this.

>>15782674
Spoiler tag that shit man

>>15782723
I don't understand, what do kanas have to do with cursive writing?

>>15782742
>what do kanas have to do with cursive writing?
Remainder, those are the retards out there defending Japanese "culture"

Here's the opening of the very first chapter:

―This is really bad.

Lost and penniless, those few words were all he could think of.

Well, penniless wasn’t quite right. He did have his wallet in his pocket, and setting aside the fact that he had an abundance of small change and very few notes, it couldn’t be denied that he had his assets on him.

More than enough to go to the nearest mall to do some shopping and eat some lunch. Even so, he could only be called penniless.

“Looks like the currency around here is completely different after all…”

Flipping the rare ridged 10 yen coin he was holding, the youth sighed deeply.

He was an unremarkable youth bearing short black hair and average stature. He had some muscularity which combined with his cheap jersey gave off the air of an athlete.

His sharp eyes were his only noteworthy feature, and now even they drooped helplessly.

The banality of his appearance was such that one could instantly lose him in a crowd, however the gazes directed at him were those of wonder and incomprehension, as though they were looking at something strange.

Obviously, there wasn’t a single person sporting black hair or a jersey among those looking at him. Their hair varied extensively, blonde, white, brown, green, blue and so on. Furthermore their outfits were armor, dancers’ clothes, monotone robes and more which possessed a certain vibe.

The youth could only cross his arms in comprehension as their brazen gazes washed over him.

“So basically, it’s like that, huh.”

Snapping his fingers, he pointed at those who were staring at him.

“Seems I’ve been summoned to another world.”

Before his eyes was a carriage drawn by a massive lizard-like being.

>>15782486
It's perfectly desirable. We already get a daily dose of children asking whether manga is literature, if VNs are literature, if LNs are literature... The faggots truly invested in LNs and VNs are beyond saving, because they only care about other /a/utism related media. The least they could do is being less smug and confrontational about it.

>>15782545
I never even said you were addressing or comparing their quality.
Let's say you had 5 kitten and 1 full grown tiger, which stood out for obvious reasons. Someone comes your way and you offer to sell them 6 of the most amazing house pets in the world.
Just by placing the odd one with the rest, at some level a comparison is made possible.

>>15782749
Please, educate yourself:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursive_script_(East_Asia)
https://amp.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/1hcf6j/does_japanese_have_differant_handwriting_styles/

>>15782708
Based retard just keeps on giving, keep it up

>>15782800
The red are the old cursive forms of the hiragana, modern hiragana is not cursive. Search for sosho
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_calligraphy

>>15782760
>>15782674
Oh wow. Given safety and shelter in "Sanctuary"? HOLY WORLD BUILDING.
>And that Trial had shown him the her unfortunate death shortly after her departure.
Great translation.
>and more which possessed a certain vibe
Poetic charm.
You realize in one sentence his eyes are drooping and barely 2 seconds later he's "pointing at the crowd" in a defiance of sorts, right? That's what constitutes great plotting and characterization?

>>15782821
>If I don't call it cursive, it'll stop looking ugly!
Bravo.

>>15782825
>in one sentence his eyes are drooping and barely 2 seconds later he's "pointing at the crowd" in a defiance of sorts,
that is what every anime is like kiddo.

>>15782825
Leave troll, the sight of your obvious bait disgusts me! Go vomit your meaningless insults at other boards, this place is not for the likes of you!

>>15782839
That is subjective, I find it beautiful.

>>15782844
Oh, I know. But I don't call it great or anything other than adolescent.

>>15782859
My point exactly, you're a retard drinking the mutt kool-aid, the cursive picture you posted is objectively hideous, it's not even funny

I'm with OP on this one desu. You don't read LNs for the prose, but for the plots and characters and RE:ZERO is really good for that. Just posting random bits doesn't do the whole thing justice because it's carefully built up. Also the tranlsations for the amazon verison are vastly superior than what's been posted.

>>15782888
>Also the tranlsations for the amazon verison are vastly superior than what's been posted.
Where do I get those?

>>15782882
Just noticed it even has reading kanas next to the handful kanjis left, even in their calligraphic pieces the Japanese
admit being illiterate

>>15782894
...on amazon.

>these are the retards critiquing itt

>>15781504
you can just have a guilty pleasure like everyone else and be normal about it. don't need to jump through hoops and reach so hard to explain why mediocre isekai LN is actually an incredible piece of literature. it's not
ive read all from tappei, including re zero, and it's just a teen LN. very light reading, not that stimulating. creative though, i'll give it that

Well, thread got much more answers than I expected and someone already posted two excerpts for those that were asking earlier, go on now, call it shit, as if we didn't know you would already do that. I'm outta here now, gonna keep reading volume 12, bye frens.

Also, Beako is the best girl. (And I'm not a lolicon)

>>15782920
Based midwit.

>>15781558
Underappreciated post.

>>15782920
Lmao this retard came exactly to validate his taste in light novel shit

>>15782920
>bye frens
we are not frens

>>15781831
Play Umineko: When They Cry. It's the best writing you'll get out of visual novels.

>>15783220
Subahibi is better

>>15782044
>assumes morally idealized and morally uncomplex means morally ideal
kek

Who/what have you read in the fantasy genre in the first place?

>>15781831
I second >>15783220
You should however start from Higurashi: When They Cry. It's the first instance of the series.

>>15783958
>People who never played SubaHibi trying to recommend VNs
Yeah, sure.