/lit/ - Literature

>>15776577
retard;

tfw it's pretty common in other languages

Was he right?

>>15776577
>t. never written code in their entire life
programming languages didn't save the semi-colon, retard.

>>15776581
I bet. They taught you. In creative writing classes. To write short sentences. Ending with periods. Because it's the "cleaner" or some bs; and you like a good NPC accepted it religiously.

>>15776607
>What is Javascript and C/C++
Python zoomer cuck

>>15776617
it's the "right" way/"cleaner" or some bs.

>>15776602
The opposite is true. Also notice how antis don't have any arguments, only opinions.

>>15776602
>creative writing
Like clockwork. You are mediocre.

>>15776602
Holy based

>>15776628
my point to you is that just because programming languages use semi-colons doesn't mean they saved them. fuck off retard.

>>15776701
Yes they did because people still use it.

>>15776748
>Amazon sells books so Amazon saved the book business
>Nike sells shoes so they saved the shoe business
>Intel says processors so they saved the processing business
>Writers use periods so they saved semi-colons.
Semi-colons are used all the time. You're just some retard who is just learning how to program so you're projecting your lack of knowledge onto the entirety of the English language. Kill yourself, faggot.

>>15776602
Fuck this faggot.

As usual, tourists lowering /lit/'s IQ average with their shitposting.

>>15776769
>writers use periods so they saved periods*

>>15776602
>taking writing advice from an amerimutt

>>15776602
>transvestite hermaphrodite
Somebody's getting canceled

>>15776602
Vonnegut's writing is steadily mediocre quality, with some pretty good verbal flourishes and interesting ideas carrying it along. Taking his advice on writing seems like a good way to produce shitty prose without the qualities that allowed his work to still be decent

>>15776602
How contrarian.
A semicolon is just less severe than a full stop and more severe than a comma; don't use one if you don't want to.

>>15776628
Python is Mayakovsky

>>15776577
>>15776602
>not one mention of the master of semicolons
Today I will remind them.

>>15776602
He was right for his own section of writing; irrelevant advice otherwise. I do not mind; and yes, I am using semicolons intentionally.

>>15777213
I think semi-colons are based; what else would I use?

>>15776577
I use it all the time in my writings though

ain't nuthin' wrong with it; just 'cause y'all don't use it don't mean nobody does

>>15777326
>;
>y'all
OH NONONO my friends at creative writing class are going to hear all about it!

>>15776577
I used semicolons all the time when I was in high school. Now I use periods or dashes instead.

>>15777359
Based creative writing student.

A musical equivalent of the semicolon is the relative minor i -> V cadence at the end of individual movements of concerti grossi, etc., after the movement had already finished in the tonic, used quite effectively by Handel and Corelli. Plebs will not get it; plebs don't get semicolons.

Okay, this explanation is bullshit. Tell me one good reason why semi-colon should be used over period or comma and no bullshit excuses like its a longer pause than comma but shorter than period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94ii6MVilw

>>15778063
The way I see it is this. There are subordinate clauses and independent clauses. The subordinate clause depends on the main clause to make sense, while independent clauses stand alone. In sentences with subordinate clauses I use the comma, like this
>I took my umbrella to work, because it was rainy.
But in sentences with independent clauses I may use period or semicolon. Period, if they are independent and unrelated, like this
>Too much sugar is unhealthy. I like movies.
And semicolon if they are (grammatically) independent, but (thematically) related
>Too much sugar is unhealthy; I prefer my tea with no sugar.
I don't claim this is grammatical a rule; it's just a rule of thumb ;).
I think you could write the last sentence with either one, as long as you're consistent. It comes down to style and preference.

I need to brush up on how to use semicolons. I mostly use it for lists where the individual entries in the list have commas but I forget the other rules for using them. I see them a lot in books I read though.

I used semicolons a lot due to work emails. I want my ideas to be properly read. Unlike here where I don’t really care

>>15777588
Could you post a example of a good semicolon use in poetry? Please.

>>15776602
Melville was criticized for his frequent use of semi-colons, and he never went to college.

>>15776607
Computing in general with programming at the forefront made many symbols included in ASCII more important than they were historically, because they had to cram their notation into a very limited character set.
The semicolon would have survived anyway, but it's not entirely wrong.

>>15777588
Explain to me minor i because I know very little about music technicality.

>>15778324
This is how semicolons are defined to be used, aside from the list usage. People use them incorrectly out of ignorance and pseudery but I think using them incorrectly with knowing intent is BASED.

>>15776602
>Americans need to go to college to learn to use semicolons

>>15778835
So you just go full stop all day every day?

Semi colon is essential when making a list that isn't "propositional" and has commas within it: like blah blah, blo; blo, blah, blo; blo blo, blah.

>>15778324
Should be a colon after the first 'this'. Tbh

>>15778841
Every line break, jump, or whatever it's called when it goes down a line, is almost like an invisible semicolon, except when it's in the middle of a sentence, how do you read that?

>>15776577
>>15776602
It's not that simple;

>>15779372
Should be a dash between 'this' and 'desu'.

>>15779383
no...

>>15776602
Based. Only gets hate because he’s not TOO DEEP for autists.

>>15776617
Nigger; Faggot

>a semi-colon indicates a pause in a sentence but does not end
What doesn't end? The semi-colon? Or the sentence? What retard wrote this ESL-tier garbage?

>>15776577
I use it in lists all the time.

>>15780104
Maybe it is only semi-colon because it begins but does not end?

>>15776628
semi-colon is completely optional in javascript anyways.

>>15776577
http://www.openculture.com/2014/07/theodor-adornos-philosophy-of-punctuation.html
>Adorno reserves a special pride of place for the semicolon. He claims that “only a person who can perceive the different weights of strong and weak phrasings in musical form” can understand the difference between semicolon and comma. He differentiates between the Greek and German semicolon. And he expresses alarm “that the semicolon is dying out.” This, he claims, is due to a fear of “page-long paragraphs”—the kind he often writes. It is “a fear created by the marketplace—by the consumer who does not want to tax himself.”
Based Adorno

>>15776602
>>15780182
chad Adorno vs virgin Vonnegut

>>15776602
>Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: do not use semicolons; they are transvestite hermaphrodites representing absolutely nothing. All they do is show you've been to college.
Fixed.

>>15776769
AMD saved the processor business.

>>15780160
Nah, not completely. They botched it.
Semicolons are only inserted if you'd get a syntax error otherwise. So if your next line starts with a parenthesis then it may get interpreted as a function call argument list anyway if you omit the semicolon.
Python did it better. There it doesn't depend on the surrounding statements.
Go tries it too but it has some unfortunate quirks (not as dangerous as Javascript's, at worst your code won't parse).

>>15780242
BASED
Intel should choke on an unwashed, uncircumcised cock