/lit/ - Literature

Yes, Nick Cave, but also Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and M Gira as well.

>>15774091
Stephen Malkmus :)

Lou Reed

>>15774091
GG Allin

>>15774091
Billie Elish

>>15774091
Gerard Lee Way.

No contest.

>>15774091
Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Jim Morrison, Michael Gira, Morrissey, Alex Turner.

>>15774091
John Maus, without a doubt.

>>15774091
Beyonce

>>15774207
You're close.

>>15774476
>>15774604
You have to go back.

>>15774091
ez

>>15774631
Justin Bieber

The guy from Silencer

townes van zandt

>>15774091
Sparks, Alex Turner.

>>15774627
Based

This is the truest answer. Leonard Cohen is a close second but he has a bit of a crutch.

>>15774507
BASED.

>>15774551
The pseuds #1 choice.

Lana Del Rey

There is much to life than books, you know, but not much more

>>15774091

He's a fan of Bataille but not retarded like Bjork.

>>15774627
I miss him

>>15775115
>Alex Turner.
>>15774538
Everybody says this. Show me some lit/ songs from him.

>>15775223
>He's a fan of Bataille
How do you know

Paul Westerberg

>>15775138
second

Name any song with better lyrics than O'Malleys bar

"I have no free will", I sang
And I flew about the murder
Mrs. Richard Holmes, she screamed
You really should have heard her
Well I sang and I laughed, I howled and I wept
I panted like a pup
I blew a hole in Mrs. Richard Holmes
And her husband stupidly stood up
As he screamed, "You are an evil man"
And I paused a while to wonder
"If I have no free will then how can I
Be morally culpable, I wonder"
I shot Richard Holmes in the stomach
And gingerly he sat down
And he whispered weirdly, "No offense"
And then lay upon the ground
"None taken", I replied to him
To which he gave a little cough
And with blazing wings I neatly aimed
Blew his head completely off

i think the guy from the national

When I was young, younger than before
I never saw the truth hanging from the door
And now I'm older, see it face to face
And now I'm older, gotta get up, clean the place
And I was green, greener than the hill
Where flowers grow and the sun shone still
Now I'm darker than the deepest sea
Just hand me down, give me a place to be
And I was strong, strong in the sun
I thought I'd see when day was done
Now I'm weaker than the palest blue
Oh, so weak in this need for you

>>15775344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlBSCgpLjFo

And lyrics on his brilliant trees album.

>>15775586
>>15775613
>>15775684

And take me disappearing through the smoke rings of my mind
Down the foggy ruins of time
Far past the frozen leaves
The haunted, frightened trees
Out to the windy beach
Far from the twisted reach
Of crazy sorrow
Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free
Silhouetted by the sea
Circled by the circus sands
With all memory and fate
Driven deep beneath the waves
Let me forget about today
Until tomorrow

This is better than all the artist you said and it's not even in Bob Dylans top 10 songs lyrically

>>15774207
Are you the same anon that has been posting Malkmus/Pavement in these threads for years now?

>>15774447
>>15775107
these

>>15774091
Mark E Smith, easily
hes basically a vorticist tho, clearly heavily influenced by BLAST

>>15774507
hello, it's the based department.

>>15774207
Damn this guy id kine hot tho ngl

Why does /lit/ have the most basic bitch taste in music imaginable

>>15774091
Carl Barât and Pete Doherty

Is this measure based on the lyrics alone? Or how the lyrics charge the music, and therefore based in some degree of the music itself in how it and the lyrics of some level of charge support one another?

>>15775769
The finest lyrical moment in pop music for me anon. I can't even read silhouetted by the sea without getting goosebumps. Everything uniquely simple and pretty about pop lyrics is in here

>>15774091
Bruh

>>15775933
Because the choices are pretty limited

>>15774457
>don't go play with me emotionally!
>or i will make you bleed internally!
it's not peak lit but it's not half bad writing imo

>>15775107
yea, this

>>15775984
Listening to this right now

Jim of course. Too many incels on this board.

>>15775769
Soi the song.

>>15775984
BuhReEEeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HeeeaaAaAaaaAaaaDddD
GooOOOOOOOOOOooodDDDD
LyreeeeeeeeeiiiiiickkkkkKKKkkkssSssSSsuUUuuUuHHHHhhHH!

>>15775984
Overrated.
>>15775933
Being /lit/ is beyond meme internet labels.

Jacques Brel or Léo Ferré

https://youtu.be/56EktzaYtBE

Elvis had a heart attack
'Cause he got so bleedin' fat
He weighed nearly half a tonne
He looked more like a pregnant mum

Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead

Elvis had a gammy leg
He had a gammy head
He had a gammy kidney
He's better off dead

Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead

In August 1977, Elvis met his fate
But he couldn't get into heaven
'Cause he couldn't fit through the gate

Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead
Elvis is Dead, Elvis is Dead

Thank God
What a fuckin cunt he was
(Eh just heard he's losin weight)

>>15776199
I hate this fucking cunt.

>>15774627
Rip.

>>15775984
Joanna Newsom have some incredibly good lyrics and songs too. I don't like all of them, particularly the oldest ones, but she's amazing.

>>15776363
>Joanna Newsom have some incredibly good lyrics and songs too
Like what? I tried listening to some song by her and it was mostly some autistic and cryptic message about a park in New York.

>>15776386
They're pseuds and will only sperg at you

>>15774091
>David Bowie
>Elliot Smith
>Jesse Lacey

>>15776386
Yeah some of them are overly long and not particularily good.

Try
>Leaving the City
>Emily
>'81
>Easy

Leaving the City (band version) is probably my favourite song ever and I double dare you to find anything wrong with it, music, melody or lyrics.

That's what she says about that song :
>the chorus of that song has sort of an experiment in distribution of syllabic weight and contrary rhyme schemes, you know there's the dominant rhyme scheme but then there's a different one threaded through that sort of voice an opposing poly meter, musically

I'd expect it's the kind of thing /lit/ loves to hear.

Anyway, if you want to get into Joanna Newsom, I'd recommend starting from her latest albums and then going back. I think it's "easier" that way.

>>15776469
ok will check them out.

>>15776456
One of these is not like the other.
Hint: It’s Elliott Smith.

Take the classical pill

Songs are not /lit/ from any standpoint whatsoever. They have no literary value at all. Dylan was a huge mistake. He said so himself.

>>15776637
this is the only correct answer, jarvic cocker lives the kino lifestyle, just reading and fucking. Or at least he used to

>>15776456
>>15774447
I love Lou and Bowie R.I.P.

>>15776862
>Dylan was a huge mistake. He said so himself.
source?

>>15777147
That was just Dylan's role he was forced to play out, his deal with the Devil,
Which, I figure, he was just fine with.
It's been suggested, more than a few times, Cohen probably wrote most of Dylan's early stuff.
Not quite a surprise,
All mega-stars are a part of a "created culture".
Theo Adorno, of the Frankfurt School, was the primary writer of most of the Beatles shit.
Jim Morrison was the son of an Admiral, who false-flagged the Vietnam War into existence.
See Gulf of Tonkin.
David Crosby has a sweet genetic pool, purported to go back to the lineage of George Washington.
I could go on, and on....

>>15776026
Bam is a true Earthrocker

>>15775836
No.

>>15774551
>nick cave
>nick drake
>Steven Malkmus
>Leonard Cohen
>bob Dylan
>Lou reed

But John Maus, the political philosophy professor is a pseud?

You have lost. Get over it. Nothing productive can possibly come of the path you are currently on. I’m trying to help you here.

>>15775182
You’re a fag who only likes morrisey because of his politics. If he was still consider hip by artsy millennial leftist types you’d hate him, precisely because those people rejected you.

>>15774091
Why does everyone on lit have the most shit music taste? It’s like you guys only ever listened to music in the car with your dads.

isaac brock

>who would want to be such an asshole?

>>15774627
Wow dude Rip, so sad can’t believe David Berman of Silver Jews (really niche band, you prob never heard of them) killed himself. He was a poet. Yeah man it’s fucked up.

You guys wouldn’t know music taste if you were sodomized by it.

Tom Waits

>>15774091
>no mark kozelek
>no Phil elverum

>>15777811
Indiscriminately shitting on everything is the easiest thing in the world.

>>15774091
The late Scott Miller of Game Theory.

>>15776456
Incredibly based

>>15777855
No, thinking a pop band from the 90’s is genuine is.

>>15777894
>pop music = bad. ok?
>trv genuine????? ok
Cut this post any way you want to, it's shit.

>>15777927
>a sellout who was such a pseud he refused to join pavement is a legitimate folksinger

It’s easy to think good taste in music is music that you like.

>>15778060
Oh...

>and then killed himself to cultivate an aura of artistic genius

100 gecs is unironically better music than anything posted in this thread, and I fucking hate them.

>>15778060
>>15778068
>characterizes art as defined by sellouts and non-sellouts
You'd better be underage, cuz mentally you're about twelve. It's not normal to think like this. Ironypilled proselytizing from a sad sappy cynic is fucking pathetic. No one that doesn't spend their days filling out 4chan captcha and masturbating six times every twelve hours is like this.

>>15778068
Pretty evident that you fucking hate a lot of things lol. Have fun dying early.

>>15776199
Gorgeous

Portishead
Van Morrison
Nick Cave

>>15776157
Go fuck yourself.

this frog

>>15775182
Maybe his very early stuff, it seems like he stopped reading poetry once his solo career took off. I still like all his albums but his writing was the best during the first album, the hand that rocks the cradle, reel around the fountain, suffer little children are lit as fuck.

>>15775586
>>15775613
>>15775769

https://youtu.be/Q8k3qB61lhk

How about this?

>>15774192
>>15774538
>>15775138
>Bob Dylan
I'm replying with my first reaction to two songs of his I was recommended to show that he was "/lit/", or even a good musician.

>it's all over now, baby blue
Literally just a conglomeration of purple lines that only work with the simplistically "nice sounding" tone and pitch of the music: this all makes it exceedingly meaningless.

The lyrics are at heart no better than something a 14 year old writes while just trying to find something to rhyme the previous word with, and inevitably you find trinkets of word combinations that one should have known exist only to further stimulate the creative development of the individual who has just written it, but are in any other sense garbage, and rarely even do so much as to particularly effect the individual in that creative moment. And even then the majority of the song's lyrics don't even have lines on that basic level. It's why people like Joe Roegan like him. Opinion Discarded, Into The Trash It Goes.

cont

>>15778532
>sad eyed lady of the lowlands
At least this ones lyrics is more connected, but it still suffers from the same problems as the previous song of which I replied to above, that he's a fucking midwit that sucks at writing both music and words.

He should have fucking given up and it's just another shame of the languidness of our times as Carlyle put it that this man is even considered okay rather than straight out awful.

>For if we will think of it, no Time need have gone to ruin, could it have found a man great enough, a man wise and good enough: wisdom to discern truly what the Time wanted, valor to lead it on the right road thither; these are the salvation of any Time. But I liken common languid Times, with their unbelief, distress, perplexity, with their languid doubting characters and embarrassed circumstances, impotently crumbling down into ever worse distress towards final ruin;—all this I liken to dry dead fuel, waiting for the lightning out of Heaven that shall kindle it.
>Nevertheless, you will say, there must be a difference between true Poetry and true Speech not poetical: what is the difference? On this point many things have been written, especially by late German Critics, some of which are not very intelligible at first. They say, for example, that the Poet has an infinitude in him; communicates an Unendlichkeit, a certain character of "infinitude," to whatsoever he delineates. This, though not very precise, yet on so vague a matter is worth remembering: if well meditated, some meaning will gradually be found in it. For my own part, I find considerable meaning in the old vulgar distinction of Poetry being metrical, having music in it, being a Song. Truly, if pressed to give a definition, one might say this as soon as anything else: If your delineation be authentically musical, musical not in word only, but in heart and substance, in all the thoughts and utterances of it, in the whole conception of it, then it will be poetical; if not, not.
>Song: we said before, it was the Heroic of Speech! All old Poems, Homer's and the rest, are authentically Songs. I would say, in strictness, that all right Poems are; that whatsoever is not sung is properly no Poem, but a piece of Prose cramped into jingling lines,—to the great injury of the grammar, to the great grief of the reader, for most part!

That is that, he is nothing other than an embarrassment to our times, Bob Dylan is ugly and dumb.

>>15778536
Nobody told this guy about Hard Rain?

>>15778570
>Hard Rain
Fine, I'll listen to it.

>>15778570
Sorta sweet I guess but
>good thing... but then BAD THING lmao
>do this over 20x and sometimes reverse it
Cringey and unoriginal.

>>15778249
I can’t tell if you really like Silver Jews or are just like insecure about your music taste. Why the fuck are you so mad? Just go to a house show somewhere you’ll learn about 15 better bands than them after talking to people fior 5 minutes Funniest part is that like 99% of the reason I don’t like Silver Jews and Pavement is because of the fans...

>>15778249
Also, selling out in music strips you of all your credit and just makes you a massive turd. It’s not art, faggot, it’s rock and roll.

>Colin Meloy
He's probably too Portland for /lit/, but he's an amazing lyricist

Here we come to a turning of the season
Witness to the arc towards the sun
The neighbors blessed burden within reason
Becomes a burden borne of all in one
And nobody, nobody knows
Let the yoke fall from our shoulders
Don't carry it all don't carry it all
We are all our hands in holders
But meet this bold and brilliant sun
But this I swear to all

A monument to build beneath the arbors
Upon a cliff that towers towards the trees
But every vessel pitching hard to starboard
Lay it's head on summer's freckled knees
And nobody, nobody knows
Let the yoke fall from our shoulders
Don't carry it all don't carry it all
We are all our hands in holders
Beneath this bold and brilliant sun
This I swear to all, this I swear to all

And there a wreath of trillium and ivy
Laid upon the body of the boy
Lazy will the long come from it's hiding
Return his quiet certitude to the soil
So raise a glass to turnings of the season
And watch it as it arcs towards the sun
And you must bear your neighbors burden within reason
And your labors will be borne when all is done, and nobody nobody knows
Let the yoke fall from our shoulders
Don't carry it all don't carry it all
We are all our hands in holders
Beneath this bold and brilliant sun

And this I swear to all
And this I swear to all
And this I swear to all

To all
To all
To all

>>15774091
Aesop Rock.
Not just because he pretty much uses a thesaurus for every word in his songs. The literary and cultural references expressed are some of the best.

>More in a cave with a torch on the wall than a window arrangement of porcelain dolls
>Got a little plot of land where authority isn't recognized, contraband keeping the core of his Hyde Jekyll-ized
>Awaiting panacea, channeling your inner Beowolf. In purgatory just before you pay up to filet yourself(and others.) Into ego death alone, no telephone from Gabriel...

>>15775769
You're a pretty effeminate dude with wooly hair, who smokes and wears doc martens, am I correct?

Because fucking hell grow some testicles son and realise art can have more substance than pretty nostalgia.

>>15774091
How about one who was a real writer?

>>15779073
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3hX5E5cLckM

Here's some Boito/Verdi. Monolinguals need not apply.

>>15779107
The best of all "lyricists", however, was Arnaut.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ArrbdR_l4eo

Text: http://thecantosproject.ed.ac.uk/index.php/canto-6-title-page/vi-sources/175-arnaut-daniel-lo-ferm-voler

>>15774091

Didn't knew lit has such pathetic taste in music

>>15777857
massively overlooked choice here. miller was a known fan of Joyce and wrote liner notes in an imitation of Finnegans https://web.archive.org/web/20170304214121/http://pantherfile.uwm.edu/jenor/www/RN-IAQ.html

>>15774627
Who’s on his shirt?

>>15774091
Ian Curtis and Kris Kristofferson

>>15779457
Stonewall Jackson i guess?

>>15778268
I love her, lads!

I met Ferdinand de Saussure
On a night like this
On love he said
"I'm not so sure
I even know what it is."

I'm just a great composer
And not a violent man
But I lost my composure
And I shot Ferdinand

for me it's magnetic fields. and morrissey

>>15777682
please leave the internet. massive loser

>>15778429
And if a ten ton truck
Kills the both of us

>>15774091
Moz and that bloke from Cats on Fire

>>15777630
>earth rocker
on this note, Neil Fallon is pretty good as a lyricist as well

>>15778429
you like those songs because you're a nonce

>>15775890
>Mark E Smith, easily
Muh nigga. His death, along with Bowie, was the only time I really felt sad about a famous singer dying. And I'm 42, so I remember very well when St. Cobain died and all the screeching my classmates had.

look at all the architecture
i love to touch the textures
of all the mortar mixtures
look at all the architecture

no one loves it more than me
that’s why i have to set it free
’cause i feel the buildings weeping
i hear the brickwork screaming
it’s in such misery
that’s why it’s begging me
chow down, chow down the buildings
chow down, chow down the buildings

look at all the sculptures
think of all the untold tortures
feels like a loud lament
from all the monuments
no one else can hear them cry
when they suffer so do i
’cause i feel the statues weeping
i hear the granite screaming
it’s in such misery
that’s why it’s begging me

i like to lick the paintings
i wanna taste their pain
why the paintings have to hurt
lord, give me the strength to do my work
’cause i feel the paintings weeping
i hear the canvas screaming
it’s in such misery
that’s why it’s begging me
chew through, chew through the paintings
suck up, suck up the statues
chow down, chow down the buildings

>>15774091
Mazzy Star

>>15778818
>>15778822
I'm not talking about Silver Jews, you should just know that dissing shit isn't nearly as impressive as you seem to think it is.
>DAE indeh is shite???
>support ur local scene bro!!!!
Nobody thinks you're cool.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Sufjan Stevens yet.

Morrisey actually has a book in Penguin Classics, so him

>>15778925
Fuck off retard, go read Hemingway
Also, Jesus, is this what passes for "some of the best literary references" nowadays? Just blatantly namedropping a bunch of mainstream works?

>>15778532
Do yourself a fover and listen to baby you've been on my mind (the original is on vimeo don't listen to the live versions at first)

>>15778925
I agree that Aesop is great, but desu I think his literary references sometimes detract from his work, as >>15781548
mentioned, a lot of the time they serve no use other than mentioning something (not always mind you).

He’s still got a gift, especially tracks off Float.

> On the train
Watchin' the rainbows (thank you windows) I mean, it's all the same to some But that cityscape makes me numb

> I used to have a rope ladder but tattered were the rungs, I strung it from the highest willow, trying to hug the sun. The seventh level buckled and I tumbled from the summit, Now I'm back to re-climb and this time light my cigarette from it.

> I never felt pressure to have to justify my selfishness At least not to your and yours Maybe just my friends and fellowships As long as the mood is somehow linked to my enhanced development I swear they'll understand

> The harvest appeared less plentiful than last season. I imagine sloppy seed handling evoked a stroke of tardy planting, and the crops we'd have harnessed mid-november had only brushed the blossom bracket,
Then soon sacrificed lives to icicle jackets when the frost hit. I sunk to find the warmth beneath the mosses with a plan to tunnel past after the rains had run their courses, but alas,
The portraits of these frostbit corpses tortured in the grass offered this torch supporter one tall glass of nauseous, and I'm asking you: Why's the spy supply hiding in strangers when they know atop the food chain I could spot biters for acres?

I don’t often come to music for lyrical content, but Aesop can pretty easily fit when the want arrives.

Joni Mitchell

>>15781607
Do you mean mama you been on my mind?

A great love song IMO, and not purple or nonsensical at all.

>>15778536
I think you're taking the examples of Dylan's songs that you're most likely to dislike. The accusation of purple writing is not applicable to the majority of Dylan's songs. Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat is humorous, Ballad of a Thin Man, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carol, I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine, I Shall Be Released, Idiot Wind, he has tons of great songs that your criticisms do not apply to at all.

Listen to Blonde on Blonde, Just Like a Woman, Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat, and Absolutely Sweet Marie are good examples of his songwriting. The album contains a survey of different women and relationships that's not at all purple, and mostly isn't nonsensical. Only Sad-eyed Lady of the Lowlands and Stuck Inside of Mobile might give you issues.

Listen to Blood on the Tracks as well, particularly Idiot Wind and Tangled up in Blue. He often speaks in a very direct way on this album.

Also his singing style is very sensitive. He is singing with attention to the poetic and dramatic qualities of his lyrics. It's similar to the way an actor will know which words to stress to finely alter the meaning of what he's saying.

the one who doesn't reference literature for nerd cred

>>15775107
based

>>15774631
>Can't handle obvious jokes

>>15774091
this bad boi

Gustav Ahr

>>15782794
is that limp bizkit

>>15774091
my bloody valentine has some pretty based lyrics

>>15774091

goddamn lit is full of insufferably useless pseuds

i skimmed the thread but the only good picks i saw were opera librettists and aesop rock. can anyone decently experienced here salvage the best of this thread? its still a worthwhile question.

>>15783543
looks extremely scandinavian

>>15784210
Aesop Rock is "lyrical miracle" bullshit for pseuds

>>15784227
i consider AR a failed attempt but hes at least interesting

the lit references posted were pretty reddit and that makes me doubt if AR actually reads

>>15784227
based npc repeating the phrases

>>15774627
Actual Air is everything I want to be as an artist

>>15783872
no

>>15778458
that song was sick thanks for posting

Zack Condon without a doubt.

Manic Street Preachers' Richey Edwards.

>>15774091
Jello Biafra.

Glenn Danzig

>>15774627
Correct

>>15778818
All fans are trash, but your hatred of artists because of their fans is just genuinely sad. Like why would you allow others to ruin things for you that you might otherwise enjoy?

>>15774091
I like Michael Penn, though I'm neither a musician nor a poet.

>>15774091
This is actually a very difficult question.
If i had to choose one person in the pop music sphere i would say Scott Walker, maybe Brian Eno.
>>15774634
Yes
>>15775071
Kinda. In the key of Silencer i would have chosen first bands like Bethlehem, Forgotten Woods, Sortsind or even Trist/Hypothermia. Nattram's obsession with pigs, mutilation and the holocaust was cool tho
>>15775107
yes
>>15775890
totally
>>15778387
YES
>>15778395
*yid
>>15779222
i'm a very edgy person and leaning to third position politics but i find boyd rice overwhelmingly boring.
>>15781747
yes

>>15783543
Based

Bladee, too

>>15774091
Townes Van Zandt, Blaze Foley, Will Oldham, Matt Berninger, Benjamin Tod, Joni Mitchell, the guy from Fontaines DC, Sufjan Stevens, John Darnielle, Ariel Pink sometimes

>>15785660
It’s literally just pavement...a kid in a creative writing class would somehow always feature them in his writing, and he thought it was the most profound thing ever. It literally made me unable to take them seriously anymore, and then I realized all Malkmus ever wanted is upper middle class kids at liberal arts colleges to write bad poetry about his music. So yes, I don’t usually hate bands just because of the fans (huge ween and dead fan to prove it) I just FUCKKNG HATE pavement and anyone ever tangentially involved with them.

>>15786576
Lol gay picks you faggot

>>15774091
Music with lyrics is for pseuds.

>>15774551
lmao i bet you visit /mu/ too huh

>>15774091

His son cucked a guy I went to high school with

>>15786815
Why the JM hate on lit, he’s literally a political philosopher

>>15778532
Lol I remember you. You posted this exact thing in a dylan thread WEEKS ago. It's an exact copy paste. I think It's funny you have this preschool shit saved on to your computer. Like you wrote the perfect criticism or something

Guillaume de Machaut.

Other than that, this song is pretty /lit/

https://soundcloud.com/thefactthatsomanybooks/i-have-never-seen-a-vagina

>>15774192
Cringe. I never got the appeal of these folk artists. Jeff Mangum is probably the closest to /lit/ just because he evokes good imagery.

>>15775984
I'll allow it

>>15779211
Autistic manchild

>>15786969
the dead one?

>>15778536
"the previous song of which i replied to above"
fucking pseud. read something good and learn to write before you attempt criticism again

>>15788498

>>15788509
The best. His imagery is beautiful.

>>15775984
greatest recording artist of all time. Her poetic texture is up there with Dickinson and the bard

>>15778588
Gates of Eden or "god on our side" are Dylan's best lyrics IMO. Everything after the 60s he made is trash.