/lit/ - Literature

>>15759031
I will confess that I don't like this book, and I didn't even read the final 50 pages or so. It felt like I was being preached at or something. I like Salammbo though

>>15759031
>A new translation
NGMI

>>15759031
that's not Stendhal

>>15759178
Seconded.

No. It's not even peak Flaubert.

>>15759048
>translation
ngmi.

>>15759178
Flaubert is a lot better than Stendhal, but everything by Stendhal is much better than Madame Bovary

>>15759031
poor man's anna karenina

>>15761283
Patrician's Anna Karenina*

>>15759031
No, Proust is.

>>15759031
"A fine organ, imperturbable coolness, more temperament than intelligence, more power of emphasis than of real singing, made up the charm of this admirable charlatan nature, in which there was something of the hairdresser and the toreador."

It's somewhere in the top, but N°1 is Proust.

Vous ne pouvez pas donner un avis légitime si vous n'avez pas lu les œuvres en français.

Also, Maupassant est le plus grand.

>>15759031
>I AM Madame Bovary
what did monsieur Flaubert mean by this?

>>15761283
>anna karenina
Poor man's Madame Bovary

>>15762459
This

>>15759031
>he doesn't know about Bouvard et Pécuchet

>>15759031
Voltaire's tragedies are. Novels are for plebs who can't into verse.

>>15762459
To be honest, French translates pretty nicely to English.

that's not beckett

>>15759031
It is not.

can anyone tell me the route they took through french literature, the depth im asking for being the order of the specific novels and not just the authors. thanks. also brief thoughts would be highly appreciated.

>>15762955
Personally, I preferred Mallarme's poetry.

>>15759031
Pretty sure the only French author /lit/ has read is Proust.

But George Sand should be given a try, too.

>>15762957
just read everything by Ballsack, that should keep you entertained for a while

It’s good, in my opinion Emma is a very relatable character. The ending was truly poignant and it felt as if you were in the room.

live, laugh, love

>>15763048
>Pretty sure the only French author /lit/ has read is Proust.
nah there's more obvious ones like bataille and beckett

>>15759031
No, it's entry level, one step up from Camus and Old Lazy Eye

>>15762955
C'est quoi ces commentaires à la con ?

>>15759031
It's very good but I prefer Sentimental Education.

>>15759178
>>15761379
Nice picks here, sad that there is nobody recommending Chateaubriand and Saint-Simon here. Of course philosophy, poetry and plays are another matter entirely.

>>15762847
>voltaire's tragedies
Now that's pure hipsterism. They are not even the best in their own aesthetic submovements.

>>15763712
>Chateaubriand
Read his Mémoires in high school, as it was the most boring book I could find in the whole library. Good times.

>>15759031
Trois Contes is much better.

But no, ''peak French literature'' is probably Villon or Mallarmé, maybe Racine or Molière.

>>15763087
The exaggerated tragedy of the ending made the whole piece too moralistic.

>>15763850
Emma's death is not a moral punishment, that much is clear. The book even ends with a triumph of immorality and greed.

Amusing that two anon itt found it moralizing when the root of it being put on trial was that it didn't provide a moral standpoint against Emma's action.

>>15759031
>peak French literature
You called?

>>15762932
Ça

>>15764340
meme tier

>>15764340
That’s one of the worst covers I’ve ever seen.

>>15762932
Fair enough.

>>15759031
No this is

>>15762957
I'm a French native so I have no really good advice for a nonnative, but this >>15763074 is really on point if you want to immerse yourself in great accessible fiction. Balzac is GOAT and he's much more beginner friendly than most writers on his level.
You'll need some patience with the descriptions at times however.

>>15764460
Cope.
Even /lit/ know's it's GOAT tier.

>>15762847
Voltaire is pure cringe. Middlebrow at best

>>15764491
Because most people on /lit/ have only read five books and the Stranger is one of them. Then they make threads on /lit/ about it and call it by its French title

>>15764491
>unironically posting a /lit/ chart
It's made by discordfags who probably browse r/books more than they post here

>>15764519
/lit/ has good taste, though.

>>15764340
Camus pu du cul

>>15764478
Bel ouvrage de fantasy, ce qui est rare! Le premier chapitre est particulièrement bien mené.

>>15764537
It doesn't. It has a basic taste which fits with a lot of people without an actual personality. It's basically literary horoscope.

>>15764614
laule gpt

>crtl+f
>Balzac
>no results

/lit/ is dead

>>15764973
see>>15763074

>>15764973
Refer to
>>15764483
>>15763074

>>15759042
Why in the actual FUCK aren't there more novels set in Carthage?

>>15763087
A stupid materialist wannabe bourgeois trollop
>relatable

You’re supposed to hate her but that hatred should tempered with understanding. If you actually relate with her character I feel very sorry for you

>>15764340
please be bait

>>15765841
Nope. 100% genuine.

>>15764340
Camus writes like how lay person would imagine french existentialists write

>>15759048
french is super easy, why the fuck are you even reading translations pseud

>>15762847
Voltaire is for midwits, I don't think anyone ever has said Voltaire is the best French has to offer except you

>>15763712
i just read Sentimental Education, it's a beautiful novel but I didn't care for the historical aspects and technisisms of 19th century art industry

>>15764340
that's the only french novel you've read isn't it? it's not even Camus's best novel

>>15764491
you realize that by that logic Inifiite Jest is the best novel ever, right?

>>15763048
Where do I start with Sand?

>>15764537
it's ok if you are just starting with literature, it becomes incredibly inadequate once you've digged a bit beyond the surface

>>15766391
>Infinite Jest is the best novel ever

EKHM EKHM

>>15766297
Tout à fait le faisant.

>>15766400
How predictable, you are like a child.

>>15765000
Because we don't know much about it.

>3.7 on goodreads
>peak French literature
nope

>>15767392
Not him, but the likes of Dosto are irrelevant now. The window of reality has shifted, and the books that have the greatest message and observation of the times are the best.

Traditional religion and traditional wives are dead.

>>15767531
We know more of it than most other ancient cities.

>>15767548
hahhzhahhahhhhaahahahahahahhahahahaaaaaa *POP* *BLOOD SPLAT* *CORPSE SLUMPING AGAINST WALL*

>>15767563
You have never read a Dostoevsky book have you

dunno on which board i should ask.i have a french audio file from a girl i like and i dont understand any french at all where and how do i translate it?

>>15759031

It's pretty good but no. I wouldn't put him in the same league as a Bataille, a Huysmans, or a Houellebecq

>inb4 edgy taste

I can't help it sorry

>>15767598
Just post the fucking audio instead of asking to ask. I know some French.

>>15767548
>Goodreads

>>15767598
Post it here, I'm French, trust me.

>>15767605
Continue

>>15767610
you just wanna masturbate on her love to me anon.
or perhaps on her grocerie list she is reading loud.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS AHHHHH

>>15767598
Je parle un peu français.
:)

>>15767622
Post the audio along with tits or GTFO newfag

>>15767633
This.

>>15762847
Based.

>>15767591
I've read C&P and feel I understand his general philosophy. Can you explain what I'm getting wrong without using memes?

>>15763376
beckett is not french moron

>>15768401
>four hours later
Yep, I'm declaring this an official "BTFO"

>>15766396
>it's ok if you are just starting with literature, it becomes incredibly inadequate once you've digged a bit beyond the surface

you can't type out a sentence like that and not expect us to believe you look like this. even if it has validity.

>>15769916
It has too much entry level shit. Sure, some of it is not bad but there's a whole world of literature that that list neglects in favor of memes and shit anons read in high school. It's useful for someone who wants to start reading literature.

>>15767563
What the fuck does that have to do with Infinite Jest being the best novel ever?

>>15769356
Much of his writing is

>>15764491
This pic serves to remind me to take the opinions of this board with a grain of salt.

>>15769883
Based.