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Where do I start with Jung? I found out about him through Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces.

He seems very interesting. I also love Persona 4. But he wrote so much, and it's hard to break in.

>> No.15734789
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peterson's a mumbling cuck btw

>> No.15734793

Also where does he write on Christianity, gnosticism, and esoterica? Those seem most interesting.

>> No.15734794

>>15734780
I'm starting him now by reading Modern Man in Search of a Soul. Seems to briefly sum up his major ideas

>> No.15734802

>>15734789
Don't read this. This is a series of books that are so surface level that you may as well read the first paragraph of the wikipedia page.

>> No.15734848

>>15734794
MMISOAS
This.

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>>15734780
Jung was a serious researcher so some of his books have more footnotes than that American guy wrote the books with the footnotes before he killed himself.
These 2:
Man and His Symbols
Synchronicity
will do just fine to start.

>> No.15735619

>>15734780
He is a hack. Jung did basically invent the stages of consciousness and layers but the archtypes and occult shit was fake and gay

>> No.15735690

>>15734780
Man and his symbols

>> No.15735700

>>15735619
Based baconian cultist

>> No.15735745

>>15735619
>the archtypes was fake and gay
wut

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>>15735619

>just stay "Jung" at heart and you'll be okay, whether you fake or gay

>> No.15736046

>>15734780
>I also love Persona 4.
This is why I don't take Jungposters seriously.

>> No.15736062

>>15736046
Jung and the entire field of psychoanalysis is completely charlatanic, which is telling when its legacy is in pretentious high school dating sim RPGs.

>> No.15736114

>>15735700
>you have to be a STEMcel baconian if you don't consider occultism valid

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>>15734780

>> No.15736315

>>15734780
>I also love Persona 4.
Jung would consider the entire Persona series superficially deep nip shit.

>> No.15736323

>>15736122
Where does modern man in search of a soul fit in here?

>> No.15736334

>>15736114
Yes

>> No.15736338

>>15736323
anywhere near the beginning, desu. it's pretty entry level and made for people who aren't super familiar with analytic psychology.

>> No.15736356

>>15734780
Skip him entirely, he's a mystic who roots all his ideas purposely in the ethereal and unfalsifiable and even scorns the idea of proofs (as anyone who has read Modern Man In Search of a Soul will know)

>> No.15736359

>>15736356
That sounds like /lit/'s forte.

>> No.15736366

>>15736356
>skip massively influential author
That’s horrible advice, regardless of the validity of jungs work

>> No.15736395

>Ah yes, ze classic archetype of liking persona five

>> No.15736400

>>15736359
Unfortunately you are right
>>15736366
Fair enough, but there are many "influential" authors that absolutely can and should be skipped

>> No.15736405

>>15736366
>>skip massively influential author
Jung isn't influential to anyone besides people interested in psychology. You'd have a better case with Freud in regards to historical relevance.

>> No.15736430

>>15736405
'hero with a thousand faces' was massively influential on cinema and literature, and was directly based on Jungian theory

>> No.15736448

>>15735619
Based

>> No.15736483

>>15736430
>'hero with a thousand faces' was massively influential on cinema and literature
Yeah but it's also pure fucking shite, double edged sword really.

>> No.15736781

>>15736400
>Fair enough, but there are many "influential" authors that absolutely can and should be skipped
I disagree. if they're influential then you need to familiarize yourself with their work. because otherwise your understanding of ideologies/works/theories that were influenced by them will be incomplete. the only intellectually honest way to understand an author is to read them. if you don't immerse yourself in their thinking and instead rely on secondhand accounts of their ideas then you will never truly understand them.

>> No.15737903

Afaik, Red Book is Jung for normalfags

>> No.15739163

>>15736062
>Only empiricism is real inquiry
>Mind-Body Philosophy? Not important. William James solved it. We can just hand wave the hard problem of conciousness away while letting the spooks of Cartesian Dualism run rampant behind us.

>> No.15739249

>>15739163
Go back to >>>/x/ psychotard.

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>>15734780
Unironically start with the Seven sermons to the dead. If you can take it while enjoying it then you can go on studying his work with ease. You're initiated.
If you don't get it - don't bother reading anything else.

>> No.15739268

>>15739163
>>Only empiricism is real inquiry
But Jung was an empiricist.

>> No.15739270

Start with chap 10 of modern man insearch of a soul. Anyone who says man and his symbols first is a fucking hack.

>> No.15739557

Read about the Archetypes and ignore everything else. Everything else he's done is Satanic New Age Occultist nonsense.