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Why is reading classical literature considered right wing?

>> No.15727852

>>15727844
Because you start to sympathise with people in the past and understand why they did the things they did instead of rejecting it offhand as a point of course and instead follow the implicit narrative of now.

>> No.15727853

>>15727844
What's wrong with post-modernism?

>> No.15727854

Because it is aimed at self improvement

>> No.15727873

>>15727852
The realization that just being kind isn't a good plan is the beginning of what we call "right-wing thought" in the modern day.

>> No.15727878

>>15727844
I see this image often, what is the source?

>> No.15727883

>>15727852

FPBP

>> No.15727890

>>15727878
Facts and logic, a.k.a. reality

>> No.15727896

>>15727853
It leads the way to lazy post-modernism.

which is what most people who are not highly academic tend to do when they get into contact with it. Asking immediate questions largely in reation to strawmanned topics instead of taking a meta perspective of asking why they are asking the question in the first place. It also allowed preconsived notions mascarae themselves as daring questions.

>> No.15727897

>>15727878
A right-wing circle jerk

>> No.15727919

>>15727890
>>15727897
And I thought I’d get a real answer
:^(

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15727927

Everyone ITT fuck back off to /pol/

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>>15727852
the implicit narrative of now

>> No.15727955

>>15727939
why? im not saying any specific narritive. im not some le ebic sjw hater or anything. Just general modern modes of thought. People in the victorian times often felt themselves enlightened in their modern thought and practices, and the generation before them, and the generation before them. I just mean being able to sympathise with voices from the past and come to a nuanced understanding of human experience that might be called dispicable by one group or another. weither it be nazis, commies, Napoleon, or Muhammad.

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>>15727844

Loved Borges take on WW2:

Hitler thought he was fighting for a nation, but he was fighting for all nations, even for those he attacked and abominated. It does not matter that his ego was unaware of that; his blood, his will, knew. The world was dying of Judaism, and of that disease of Judaism that is belief in Christ; we proffered it violence and faith in the sword. That sword killed us, and we are like the wizard who weaves a labyrinth and is forced to wander through it till the end of his days, or like David, who sits in judgment on a stranger and sentences him to death, and then hears the revelation: Thou art that man. There are many things that must be destroyed in order to build the new order; now we know that Germany was one of them. We have given something more than our lives; we have given the life of our beloved nation. Let others curse and others weep; I rejoice in the fact that our gift is orbicular and perfect.

>> No.15727992

>>15727960
I don't see a source on the quote.

>> No.15727995

>>15727960
That was not his take, but a part of a story called Deutches Requiem. It was meant to be read as a fever dream, as the delusions of a madman.

>> No.15727999

>>15727995
makes sense.

>> No.15728002

>>15727960
Borges was literally making fun of Nazi sympathizers with that "take."

>> No.15728007

>>15727960
>>15727992
Deutsches Requiem
>>15727995
>>15728002
Exactly
He despised you all

>> No.15728031

>>15727844
It isn't, you cumguzzling nancyboy bootlicker.

>> No.15728033

>>15728007
You dont have to be a nazi to be a rightist anon.

>> No.15728037

Surely this image is a joke. How are any of those activities seen as "extremist" I have no idea.

>> No.15728042

>>15727960
>I rejoice in the fact that our gift is orbicular
Time is a flat circle, bro.

>> No.15728046

>>15728037
...Thats the joke.

Its overexageration of some hysteria inducing thing to spook parents.

>> No.15728048
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15728048

>>15727844
Most rightwingers are illiterate cousin-fuckers like pic related.

>> No.15728052

There's a lot of asshurt itt, desu.

>> No.15728057

>>15728037
The BBC tweeted out that nature was a "white-space" today

>> No.15728064

>>15728046
I'm pretty sure most parents would be more concerned about the mass shooting aspect, rather than their kid's attitude toward classical literature. One salient warning sign would be if your son has an arsenal.

>> No.15728070

>>15728052
And you're the Bengay?

>> No.15728072

>>15728064
Maybe. But the joke is the exageratory nature of it, not its baring on reality.

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>>15727844
Because its bait

>> No.15728080

>>15728033
Was Borges a rightist, though?

Especially in today's stein-subverted climate?

>> No.15728084

>>15728080
Depends on what self proclaimed leftists deem rightist nowadays. So maybe depending on who you talk too.

>> No.15728093

>>15728080
He was
Not an extremist but it did cost him friendships tho, most writers are from the left
He loved Schopenhauer, Stevenson, Spinoza and Swedenborg to death

(I'm not rightist, Borges was brilliant and he thought right was right, so what)

>> No.15728102

>>15728080
He was a neolib like Pinochet. But it doesn't matter. His art transcends all.

>> No.15728109

>>15728080
He was kinda, but i assumed the person i responded too was calling all rightists nazis with
>He despised you all

>> No.15728112

>>15728048
blacks are the most illiterate demographic and vote 98% democrat

>> No.15728116

>>15728112
>>15728048
These two posts show that statistically warpestry can support anything.

>> No.15728141

>>15728046
Parents would be happy at everything on that list
"we must have done something right"

>>15728057
Lmao what

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>>15727844
I'm pretty much most of those.

>> No.15728166

>>15727844
>Why is reading classical literature considered right wing?
It's not, your pic is propaganda.

>> No.15728173

>>15728080
Yes, Borges was rightwing. But you wouldn't know that from his works, which is one of the signs of a good author.

>> No.15728178

>>15728048
You people lost us the American working class. The left used to completely dominate Apalachia.

>> No.15728218

>>15728178
>LOL

USA is armored against the left, they have never had more than a handful of followers and anything that remotely smells red has always been supressed then and ther
The working class of the USA has believed 200 years nonstop in "It is good that there are super rich, because tomorrow I could be one!" "Muh continent, manifest destiny" "I have guns therefore i have freedom"
That masochistic Calvinism that they have so deeply in their brain and that does not allow them to adapt to this time is what causes the decline they are experiencing

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>>15728218

>> No.15728640

>>15728630
Dilate.

>> No.15728642

>>15728640
>Dilate.
Not a lefty.

>> No.15728665

>>15728642
Trannies are rightwingers.

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>>15727896
There has always been lazy art.

The problem the right has with postmodernism relates to the two single cognitive tools the right has: 'denialism' and 'definition'. Definition works to obscure denialism with romantic images (illusions) of stable identity, or stable origin. Postmodernism is really the continuation of the Nietzchean interest in genealogies (antithetical to the notion of an origin, for there is always some state from which an event cannot be isolated etc.), and the right simply cannot do with the erosion of definition that means a subversion of their denialism.

>> No.15728695

>>15728640
He is right, the bourgeoisie managed to make Marxism about the infighting of ht proletariat and the defense of big corporations as long as they invest in said fight(and why wouldn't they it benefits them tremendously in multiple way, see Jeff bezos hiring diversity hires to stop unions from forming).
Anyone who defend the current "left" is either retarded misinformed or malicious in nature.

>> No.15728714

>>15728695
Bourgeois playfighting over 'cultural issues' has nothing to do with the left.

>> No.15728717

>>15727844
can we make it a rule to ban poltards?

>> No.15728718

>>15728218
Left does not mean communist. Retard.

>> No.15728723

>>15728718
Fuck off, libfag.

>> No.15728740
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15728740

>>15727844
>that pic
>no mention of God or religion
You can't have authentic virtue, a good society, monogamy, lots of kids, mental well being and peace of mind, [all the fruits of religion] without God and fulfilling your duty to God.

>> No.15728745

>>15728665
all LGBT are Godless abominations, thus some form of humanist/liberal

>> No.15728756

>>15728714
That is why the "left " is in cotation amrks you retard. Don't pretend that what call itself left and fights the right is not intrinsically linked with these movements . WTF do you think Anti-fa uses the an-com flag? why do self entitled Marxist professor push for this? Why the fuck are my professor pushing for protest of the death of a black man criminal in the USA WHEN I'M NOT AND NEVER BEEN NOT AMERICA? why is everyone who is not right wing talking about this shit in my country? why is the corruption of our politicians being ignored while this is news?
I'm not saying it is't a bourgeoisie psy op to co-opt the real left wing movement. I'm saying it worked.

>> No.15728840

>>15728740
Yes you can.

>> No.15728865

>>15728048
>tanned
>flat nose
>big lips

Funny that you chose that image to represent a dumb right-winger.

You don't even notice the reason. It's probably subconscious...

>> No.15728876

>>15728756
Because the West is throughly cucked by capital. It's almost written into its DNA at this point.

>> No.15728882

>>15728865
Rightwingers are notoriously nigger-tier in the IQ department.

>> No.15728888

>>15728882
Empirically false in the US

>> No.15728903

>>15727878
It's a fake made by /pol/. This is a deduction based on the fact that I only see it on 4chan, nobody can provide a source, and its obviously facetious tone.

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>>15728888
Er...

>> No.15728918

>>15728112
And if the Republican party didn't openly shit on them they'd vote republican. Outside of Black specific issues they are fairly conservative, and the Democrats need to appeal to Black voters is part of what has historically driven the party to the center on social issues. Gay marriage only passed because Obama being Black gave the Dems enough pull with Black voters to enact social policy contrary to their views.

The Democratic nomination process heading so far left is likely to lower Black enthusiasm for voting at all, hence the desire to get Biden the nomination (if Black voters don't show up, the Dems have no chance in certain swing states).

Simple reality is most Blacks in America aren't anti-capitalist or anti-family or anything like that. They tend to be religious, culturally conservative, believe in traditional gender roles, be sceptical of homosexuality, strongly respect their parents(the ones who are present). They are only voting left out of personal benefit. Leftist twitter types are a small minority of the community. Remember that older black voters asked for the tough on crime legislation of the 90s to deal with the crack epidemic.

>> No.15728924

>>15728888
Amerilards in general are dumb as fuck. Especially the rednecks in the south.

>> No.15728930

>>15728909
He's been a New York Democrat for most of his life. He's only "right wing" because the Democratic Party has moved farther to the left than even him. Even they are to dumb to stop a moron like him, which says something about the state of the left tbqh.

>> No.15728937

>>15728918
How does the republican party shit on them? I think you're full of shit, anon. My state is 20 percent black. Back in '12 during the election, a black coworker of mine said that he was voting for Obama because if Romney won, he wouldn't be able to go to community College.

Its almost sickening how out of the way Repubs go to try and win over black people. All demos have to do is say that Repubs are racist and thats that for most people.
t. Hispanic

>> No.15728944

>>15728930
Trump doesn't have an ideology. He makes decisions based on what makes him feel good for the next 5 minutes.

>> No.15728964

>>15728944
You clearly haven't been paying attention to him and what he actually believes based on 20 year old interviews like I have. If you can't even form an educated opinion based on actual research, why even have one?

>Inb4 you say something stupid like saying you get your facts from the news
The mainstream media is tabloid tier trash and journalists are low-key propagandists. They are literally the least likely people to tell you the truth, especially nowadays.

>> No.15728965

>>15727844
It's more like
>Obsessed with pornography, constantly mentions cucking, blacked
>Constantly thinking about shooting innocent people because he got redpilled by unsourced infographics on the computer
>plays computer games 24/7

>> No.15729061

>>15728964
Nice self-contradictory post, brainlet.

>> No.15729119

>>15729061
>Y-you're contradicting yourself, b-brainlet.
Pathetic. Go do your own research instead of listening to fucking modern journalists about anything before you can call anyone else a brainlet.

>> No.15729156

>>15728903
Actual autism

>> No.15729996

>>15728630
>they put rainbows on their corporate logos that must mean they care about us!!!
Is there a worse brainlet opinion?

>> No.15730004

>>15728112
Democrats are right-wing, so you just proved the point.

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>>15730004
I really dont think black people and yuppies vote democrat because of their right wing tendencies

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>>15729996

>> No.15730192

>>15728057
jesus fucking christ. They litterally want to destroy families

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>>15727844
>wholesome values are extreme

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>>15730192
Now you're getting it.

>> No.15730239

>>15728944
>Trump makes his own decisions and isn't a puppet of the bankster elite that control both sides of the political spectrum

>> No.15730253

>>15727844
Kek

>> No.15730260

>>15728717
Yes. Anyone?

>> No.15730283

>>15728057
No they didn't, fuck off. And fuck the retards who believed this guy.

>> No.15730317

>>15727844
Why is Christianity considered Right Wing? Because the idea is that we've moved beyond the need for either, and to continue holding onto them is to be stuck in the past and regressive.

>> No.15730363

>disdain for modernism
more like turbo plebian warning signs

>> No.15730364

>>15728944
Trump only had an economic agenda and had to pretend he cared about anything else. He's also shown himself to be a crypto-kike who's dedicated to making life better for Jews at everyone else's expense.

>> No.15730370

>>15727844
only one trait is natural to anyone, about nature.

anything else is description of a degenerate cuck larper.

this pic is psyop. OP is faggot.

>> No.15730776

>>15728740
Are you arguing for a noble lie?

Either that or you're beginning from the arse end; just wanting there to exist existence-justifying meaning REALLY emphatically doesn't quite get you there...

>> No.15730910

>>15729156
it's clearly fake. seriously, use the one braincell dinging around in your head like a dvd screensaver. it's obvious right wing circlejerking about how great their ideology is

>> No.15730933

>>15730910
No shit, congrats for figuring out the joke dumbass.

>> No.15730995

>>15727844
>disdain for modernism, post-modernism
Hilariously ironic when plenty of fashies love to make and share postmodern vaporwave art fetishising genocidal modernist dictatorships.

>> No.15731060

>>15727844
It amazes me that there are so many newfags who haven't seen OP's pic before.

>> No.15731073

>>15727927
Dilate.

>> No.15731096

>>15728048
I love how leftists have totally bought into two-hundred year old capitalist industrialist propaganda against poor, rural working whites.

>> No.15731114
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>>15728640
>>15728665
>no u
Please try harder.

>> No.15731122

>>15728965
Go back, tourist.

>> No.15731151

>>15727927
dilate

>> No.15731214

the constituents that make up the far-left literally do not read

>> No.15731349

>>15731214
most people don't read anon, most people who talk about their ideologies will never take any meaningful steps to bring them to fruition. i can't imagine the epic libertarians waving their rifles around in government buildings spend their evenings poring over dense philosophy texts.
most people just consume ideology vomit on their social media platforms, maybe one book a year if they're trying to keep up appearances.

>> No.15732158

>>15727960
Hitler was clearly wrong. Moving away from religion to atheism only gave people less restraint to hold them back from becoming degenerates.

>> No.15732295

The problem with people who fall into OP’s image is that they don’t self-reflect and end up completely out of touch with reality. Generally, these people buy a bunch of classic books and maybe get through one and inflate their egos to insurmountable levels believing falsely that they are now better and more intellectual than “the common people”. Since they think they’re better, they believe they deserve far more than everyone else. In turn, this creates an entitlement that has these people believing they have the right to some imaginary tradcon wife who exists only to serve them. In their minds they are so “alpha” that the woman would gladly do this.

They’ll be bombarded with reality though. Muscles do not blind people to narcissism and no one wants to associate with someone who puts themself on a pedestal above you. Everyone can innately see that the endless talk about all the self-improvement and philosophy is all a cope for a buried self-confidence issue.

Anyways, these kinds of people end up doing almost nothing but working, working out, and then posting right wing bullshit on the internet. They only have one-sided interactions with people because they don’t care about what others have to say and whether they notice it or not, people will go out of their way to avoid running into these lunatics. Given enough time, they always come to the conclusion that they are ostracized out of jealously by the masses. Congratulations, you’re now an incel.

>> No.15732585

>>15730283
Oh yeah
https://twitter.com/BBCCountryfile/status/1277277327639154688
Checkmate retard.

>> No.15732594

>>15731349
Unfortunately true

>> No.15732626

>>15728630
I really, really like this image. Mind if I save it?

>> No.15732851

>>15727844
>Disdain for modernism
>Spending all day on the internet
pick one