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>>15722671
Lib left

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>>15722671
Keep in mind that the template that you present as some sort of blank slate is itself pure lolbertarian propaganda.

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>>15722671
I threw this together in ms paint in the most half arsed manner imaginable, but I feel like it's pretty accurate.

Popper is the ontological core or sacrificial center of modern politics. He stands up for the "open society" against closed societies. That means standing for liberating the individual socially (which necessitates the destruction of the authoritarian personality, the family, church, etc) and economically (which necessitates the supremacy of global capital over borders, communities, etc). The only issue with this is that Popper was an anti-Zionist, so other Liberal thinkers like Arrendt and Berlin might be more accurate.

From there Schmitt represents Absolutism on top of the authoritarian scale. He stands for totalitarian order and hierarchy in the state and society over the individual.

Stirner is the opposite; he's an ontological anarchist and therefore is placed at the bottom of the Libertarian scale.

On the far economic right you have Rand, as the ultimate culmination of selfishness and individual autonomy in the market.

Then Marx on the opposite far economic Left for obvious reasons. He wants total collective control over the economy.

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>>15722688
/thread

>> No.15722730

>>15722708
In what way?

authority/liberty and collectivism/free market are valid axis.

>> No.15722743

>>15722730
The most obvious axes, if you want to do a 2D plot, are "liberal vs conservative" (cultural) and "left vs right" (material).

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>>15722708
I never understood this weird idea that "Centrism" somehow means being apolitical or not having an ideology. I always saw centrism as simply being a syncretism of two or more quadrants of the compass that can't quite be placed as neither right or left wing.

>> No.15723636

>>15722671
Anyone noticed that the whole memes are shifted by 45 degrees?

>You can get top left only by being a straserist
but it´s treated as strong state socialist
>pragmatic leftism with mid tier state gets you lib left corner
is treated as hippy
>being boomer tier necon with mid state role gives you bottom right somehow
is treated as libertarian
>Nazis go straight top cause think of the important difference to monarchist

>> No.15724511

>>15722717
Pretty good honestly.

>> No.15724558

>>15722717
Who's above Chomsky?

>> No.15724611

>>15722717

Chomsky does not belong there lmao. Replace him with Bookchin