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Are we in the midst of a language shift? I've been reading twitlongers of Twitch streamers accusing each other of rape and they all use this terminology.

>> No.15713995

>>15713981
we're in the middle of mass conversion to the dumbest gayest religion in history

>> No.15713997

>>15713981
I wonder what happened in 2008 when the use of those terms exploded? Better to keep proles in a race war rather than in class war.

>> No.15714000

>>15713997
Mass smartphone adoption.

>> No.15714005

We're always in the midst of a language shift.

>> No.15714006

>>15713997
iPhone release date: June 29, 2007

>> No.15714013

>>15713995
and it's beautiful!

>> No.15714016
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>>15714000
Probably helped, but the media and its masters did spearhead this shift. It's doesn't matter that you are getting poorer every year as long as you support BLM and belong to the right side of the progressive history.

>> No.15714021

>>15714016
Even the "class war" doesn't affect their profits. This is bs, anon.

>> No.15714024

>>15714016
Wasn't that Chapo traphouse zoomer crew partially aware of this but still persisted in war on culture? Easier to farm snarks I guess

>> No.15714031

>>15714000
And an economic crash from which median disposable income has not recovered.
The bigger change came in 2000-2002 though. The creation of the Euro, the Chinese spy plane incident, the international reactions to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, where almost none of the developed world took the USA's side. In the ten years after the fall of the Soviet Union the rest of the world except Australia became comfortable with challenging the USA on everything that matters, and in 2000-2002 the American political system realised that that was the case and gradually tried to understand it.

>> No.15714032

learn latin frens, i'm doing my part

>> No.15714046

>>15713981
From 1990 to the present day the amount of people a journalistic enterprise has required had constantly declined. Fax, email, phone video sent over twitter and youtube etc, each of these has meant that any general news agency can produce the same volume of content with less people, with the decline in quality being slow enough that the public don't notice.

>> No.15714047

>>15714021
>Even the "class war" doesn't affect their profits.
But it does, just examine the history of American or European labor movements and see that collective bargaining, unions and violence did force captialists to soften their approach, at least temporarily. Unfortenately America has basically turned into a wagieland again.
I'm sure the people with power and wealth understand this and they play the old divide-and-conquer cards again. And it will probably work on muricans again too.

>> No.15714049

>duties
Top kek

>> No.15714064
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>>15713995
All it requires is pic related. 'All lives matter' is sufficient grounds to get fired.

You can't even raise counter-arguments. 'All police are racist, it's fundamentally racist to suggest that blacks are more violent.' Repeat for every inequality.

>> No.15714070

>>15714047
Europe, even pre-covid, has become more isolationist than the USA. They have plenty of internal movement but the aim has been to run a cultural firewall from the straits of Gibraltar to the Dardanelles and up to the gulf of Finland, fron which everything is exported and nothing is imported except raw commodities.
They do this mostly because of their own version of China's 4-2-1 problem; if you're in that situation the only way you can make enough money to buy what you can't produce internally is by having way more exports than imports; this applies to commodities, finished goods and culture. It doesn't even have to be a dictatorial edict; if you as a business or person go against the tide you go bankrupt.

>> No.15714072

>>15714047
The big problem here: "class war" takes actual effort and thought, the identity war can be fought from your sofa, with no evident contradictions. Any cause that takes any actual personal investments isn't going to take off anytime this century. Not in the West, at least.

>> No.15714084

>>15713981
Whats this "we"?
Chart refers to frequency of usage in the fuckin NYT, a wokel shitrag

>> No.15714088

>>15714084
Smartphones are agitprop devices, this translates into everything normalfags read. Weasel words everywhere, used to undermine society.

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15714095

>>15714084
Like Wapo and every other major paper, barring a couple explicitly conservative papers.

>> No.15714097

>>15713995
and that’s a good thing

>> No.15714127

>>15713981
Imagine thinking journalism is something worth supporting.

>> No.15714146

>>15714127
Enjoy total disinfo dystopia without a chance to ever read anything substantial about the world at large. If no one bothers to investigate anything thoroughly, you will get goons like Hunter S Thompson running around and spreading casual observations about the surface level stuff.

Even when they uncover things like Panama Papers, they get bombed or hide in embassies while social networks slander them.

>> No.15714155

>>15714146
>These people call themselves after "the day" (Journalister). It seems to me they could better be named after *the night.* Therefore, since journalist is a foreign word anyway, I propose they be called "night-carriers," " night-garbage-carriers." I do not think the word nearly as well fits the sanitation department workers for whom it is used. But journalists are really night-garbage-carriers. They do not carry the trash *away* at night, which is both a noble task and a good work; no, they carry the trash *in* during the day, or to describe it more accurately they spread night, darkness, confusion over men -- in short, they are night-carriers.
-Kierkegaard

>> No.15714163

>>15714155
Shitty for a philosopher to use such generalizations. Then again, he's the forefather of the psychobabble we're examining in this thread.

>> No.15714166

>>15714146
Literally what even is a journalist?
>uh you should trust what we say because uh...we're official or something
What is this shit? How are they different than some guy with a blog?

>> No.15714175

>>15714166
What the fuck is this, daycare? There are professional people in this world, doing responsible jobs rather than relativizing everything on message boards. Fuck off retard.

>> No.15714186

>>15714175
Imagine being this naive lol. So you just trust whatever they tell you? What authority do they have, what proof can they give other than video evidence, which anyone else can give too?

>> No.15714190

>>15714175
> appealing to authority in 2020

>> No.15714199

>>15713995
this marxist diversity shit has disgusted me so much I converted to Christianity

>> No.15714200

>>15713997
isn't there a copypasta on 2008 being the worst year in history?

>> No.15714210

>>15714049
Does say something about who made this chart, doesn't it? And this is definitely a more interesting discussion than this bs.

>> No.15714220

>>15714163
keep crying and complaining, you absolute shitter
journalists are an embarrassment to humankind

>> No.15714223

>>15714220
KEK the absolute state of this fucking thread.

>> No.15714271

Newspeak

>> No.15714290

>>15714095
I publish scientific manuscripts regularly and I capitalize my White
It's one of few subversive things I can get away with professionally, and the fact that that's a subversive act says a lot

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>>15714024
>zoomer crew
Why are millennials physically incapable of speaking without spouting dishonest buzzwords?

>> No.15714302

>>15714293
Dishonest buzzwords? I wonder where they learned that KEK

>> No.15714305

>>15714064
>almost everyone
yes, almost

>> No.15714310

>>15714293
>That pic
>Unquestionably older millennials
>These are the people with whom I will be associated for all eternity
That really just hit home for me, and it hurt badly

>> No.15714315

>>15714095
>we will continue to lowercase the 'w' in white, which is a wider descriptor of people of numerous origins

This is just weird. Do they think Africa is all one country?

>> No.15714338

>>15714146
>If no one bothers to investigate anything thoroughly
Rewriting reuters slightly is not investigation.

>> No.15714348

>>15714315
Yes. They're all crypto racists, I'm being 100% sincere here.

>> No.15714358

>>15714024
Most of the Chapos are anti-woke, their own fanbase hates them for it.

>> No.15714360

Basically everyone goes to college to become wise and be able to lecture people about Life.

>> No.15714399

>>15714175
They are the corporate equivalent of blogs. There are many blogs more reputable, honest, and better sourced than half the shit mainstream media shits out. In fact, mainstream media routinely publishes plain lies and only quietly rescinds them when called out (the damage, their monopoly on media, already gone through). Journalists are the elite frontmen and I wouldn't be surprised if half of them are actual sociopaths.

>> No.15714410

>>15714146
>>15714399
Btw most news outlets are just remarketed versions of a core write up. So there's little to no diversity.

>> No.15714419

>>15714293
zoomer crew is the userbase

>> No.15714421

>>15714315
No, they think Afro-Americans with a family background in slavery have a black/Black culture. They're assuming that black New Orleanians and black New York share a unifying culture (in which there is at least some truth). They're implying whites have no unifying culture or else they would capitalize it (which is not completely wrong). They're confusing black Americans as Afro-Americans by calling Afro-American culture Black culture (which is a bit misleading). In conclusion, it's confusing rather than useful.

>> No.15714449

How come you can be a female if you just wish it and go waving your lesbian dick in ladies' bathrooms but you can't be a nigger?

>> No.15714473

>>15714421
Let's be real, the capital B has nothing to do with their justifications, it's just to make 'Blacks' feel better than 'whites'. It's petty aggrandisement and a cementing of the new social order.

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>>15714419
>zoomer crew is the userbase

>> No.15714498

>>15714449
You can. See Talcum X and Dolezal.

>> No.15714517

>>15714498
people still think talcum x is at least biracial and dolezal was widely ridiculed and memoryholed

>> No.15714534

>>15714421
I've understood they meant that whites -- Germans, French, etc. -- all have different cultural experiences, etc. Blacks, of course, only one have cultural experience.

That's just what I gleaned. I still find it remarkably stupid reasoning for capitalizing/not capitalizing a letter.

>> No.15714565

>>15714095
Holy shit is this racist or what, they're literally saying all niggers are the same. Complete cultural erasure, not even niggers deserve this.

>> No.15714678

>>15713981

Analysis of the words used:

Around 80% of words on this list are literally not real.

>Misogyn, Mansplaining, Racism, Non binary, abelism, cultural appropriation, intersectionality, safe space, etc

A small amount of words are real, but only as a lifestyle.

>kkk, transgender, feminism, etc

Some of the other words are real, but so abstract that they hold no good concrete meaning and hold no meaning outside of context.

>offensive, hateful, subjugation, insult, bullied. etc

Words that describe real and concrete objects

>All words in the bottom row except war and duties.

So what we are dealing here is language gone insane.

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>>15714678
>misogyny
>not real
Anon...

>> No.15715478

>>15713997
Economical crisis

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>>15714199
Basado.

>> No.15715624

Western spirit grows increasingly dissapointed that its world isn't the Protagonist fantasy it was promised and this is the priests attempt at damage control for the slave class

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>>15713981
it happened since after WW2

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>>15714031
Pic related.

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>>15714293
It depends on the hosts.
>Amber is based nazbol and is a genuinely food person, absolutely reviled by the fan base
>Virgil and Will are true believers (because they are Jewish, they never feel welcomed in Western society)
>Matt is much more socially conservative than people thinks and is just now realizing what a tangled web of shit he doesn't believe he's been caught up in. He just wants to grill now and make his escape from the left
>Felix just wants to lift and fuc

People that listen to Chapo are to a t the most insufferable and degenerate people you will ever meet and would be euthanized in an healthy society

T. Ex Chapo trans cutie

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>>15713981
What's the spike in "anti-semitism" in the '80s? The Lebanon war?

>>15714293
Zoomers are the 4th generation of the baby boomer dynasty. A subpopulation founded mostly by the criminals and illiterates who replaced the first round of military personnel to die in WWII.

Because their lives revolved around the military, their solution to every single problem was to follow the crowd and spend tax money until it went away temporarily. Since they occupied the majority of influential jobs, they created a selective environment that encouraged this behavior and multiplied their numbers.

Now in the Zoomers we have a species that's almost incapable of taking responsibility or having an independent ("antisocial") thought. The punch line is that their behavior has delayed their reproductive age until they're nearly in the same age group as non-baby-boomers. I'm not sure how this is going to affect them but it definitely has given them an unwelcome education.

TL;DR there is no onions without zoom

>> No.15715843

>>15713995
FPBP

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>>15715835
>TL;DR there is no onions without zoom

>> No.15717380

>>15713981
>Are we in the midst of a language shift?
We literally always are, this is not how languages work, new vocabulary is always going to rise, sometimes unique to certain social groups, and some vocabulary will inevitably die.
The rise in use lf these terms sure, marks a change in how people speak, but if you want to meaningfully understand these changes you should not ask yourself if language is changing (a meaningless question) but why specifically have those terms rised in use and by who are they used.
>>15714678
>Around 80% of words on this list are literally not real.
Not how it works either. All of the terms you wrote are real words. Just by the fact that they are in use by speakers they are real. You might think this is some pomo shit but this is accepted since at least the 16th century. Your "analysis" is a meaningless way of examining the issue.

>> No.15717408

>>15717380
holy fucking pedant

>> No.15717413

>>15714220
Yeah but you're unlikely any better.

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>>15713981
Damn that's a bubble if I've ever seen one. How can I short this?

>> No.15717434

>>15714200
i'd like to read it

>> No.15717445

>>15717408
But literally nothing the second anon said is useful. I get what he is trying to get at but doing so by dividing "real" from not "real" words is retarded. A critique of "progressive discourse" is necessary but doing it that way does not help in doing it.

>> No.15717453

>>15717445
they 100% are meme words though, they don't actually mean anything, they're just used as sticks to hit people

>> No.15717486

>>15717453
I agree they became mostly meaningless terms specially when they became widely used, but they are still real words desu. They still serve a function which is why labeling as false words is useless, by doing so you just refuse in trying to understand how and why they are used.

>> No.15717487

>>15713995
this. why is no one writing about this?

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I am a fool, so do not mind my claims.

When such a considerably complex foundation that we know as digital communication is brought out, we experience effects and aftershocks that are quite irregular. For instance, the degree of personal considerations, of those who bear certain wrongs brought against them, are now directly tied to the structure of political dialogue. This should be entirely expected, as the perceiver who loosely brings himself to the research of ideology is met with an array of identities, all of which share different levels of sophistication (in my opinion, the large extent of these individuals are of a lower quality). As OP's picture outlines the inevitably personal realm of thought that is tied to contemporary political conditions, though the term "conditions" is slightly inaccurate, as the problems in front of us affect and influence nothing of importance, we can now understand the consequences from the digital medium: a stagnant situation of ultrasociality without any direct intervention from higher or lower classes; citizens chasing a carrot on a stick, except there has never been a carrot or a stick.


If you are able to imagine the analysis of Adorno and other Frankfurt types of psychic life under capitalism, then you can likewise consider this as its direct extension --- systems of thought or rational development perverted through the pervasive web of influences that stunts the growth of political practice. Through the interjections of those who are neither willful enough to introduce the ends of political change, nor knowledgeable enough to influence others to act in this vein, the thoughtful and rigorous development of ideologies that have traditionally grown in history are now reduced to instantaneous sensations of what is deemed morally wrong, and never built into a cohesive form beyond those opinions.

Welcome to catatonia.

>> No.15718523

>>15717433
buy guns, silver, and TP