/lit/ - Literature

Everyday until you like it

>>15697694
Been seeing more and more Jaques Ellul on /lit/ lately. Is he worth checking out if I liked Industrial Society and It's future? I have a suspicion that Kaczynsky just stole his best points from Ellul.

>>15697711
are you talking about your dilation treatment?

>>15697759
It is the next step in the Kaczynskifikation of /lit/

>in an erudite manner of course, not violent (yet)

>>15697694
How’s the technological society?

>>15697711
So every day forever then?

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So close to finishing Ghost Wars. Never thought I'd be as interested in Afghanistan as I've become. What a tragedy. I'm hoping Directorate S is just as good.

Meditations is strolling along leisurely. Awesome and helpful work. I'll have to buy a copy for my bathroom.

I haven't got to why Bell Curve is so controversial yet, it's not as racist so far as I've been lead to believe. Good reading and interesting in any case, seems very well grounded so far.

>>15699365
That’s a huge stack. How many do those are you currently reading?

>>15699506
its not his stack that calender is nowherer near current

>>15699673
the calendar is from 2013 and I've had it hanging up for 7 years.

>>15697694
>Georges Sorel
>Jacques Ellul
based

>>15697830
It's extremely depressing but highly informative. Give it a read, but just understand you can't unread it.

>>15699833
>just understand that you can't unread it
that makes me very excited to read it. thank you

Pretty entry level stuff. Read up to As I Lay Dying so far, currently reading lonesome dove which is pretty good

>>15697711
Can you post the programming socks again?

My actual stack right now is 100% memes so I'm not even posting it.

>>15697694
Are you a baguette or Sauerkraut?

>>15697711
>SMT
Today's the last day then, SMT is my all-time favourite vidya franchise.

>>15697791
>>15700645
Why do you assume that I am trans? I am a girl
>>15700721
Based

>>15700721
german but close to France so I got to perfect my french quite easily even verbally.

It's going to be a great summer.

>>15701320
Do you really think we haven't seen this stack a million times before?

>>15701327
That doesn't mean it's not my stack good sir.

>>15701320
i hope this isn't sincere

>>15701343
I would hope you werent a tourist but you have already proven you are

>>15701340
> It's going to be a great summer
so its been ages and you've yet to finish even one of these books? your stack has remained the exact same for so long that a slow reader like myself has finished like 5 books since I last saw it? terrible bait

>>15701301
anime video games especially SMT, Urbanomic, and Burroughs are not necessarily transy on their own, but altogether, they are unbearably transed.

>>15697830
I just finished the day lasts its such a good book.

>>15701490
did Ted read it himself?

>>15697711
>my relentless shilling of Krzhizhanovsky finally paid off

>>15701424
Oh fuck I missed a SECOND victim

the ones w/ the bookmarks are the ones I'm reading rn

>>15701424
Yeah this is severely based. I've only read the Ungar and a different Gombrowicz - the former was so-so the latter pretty great, but I also just really dig this aesthetic of minor (Eastern European particularly) literature

The Iran book is boring me and I am probably not going to finish it.

>>15697759
I would recommend it, yes. The Technological Society is much broader in scope than I SAID. "Technological" is a bit of a misnomer that is the result of something being lost in translation. Its main concern is with the technicization of all aspects of society and how this becomes inevitable after a certain critical inflection point which our society has already passed. It is not strictly limited to technology as we normally mean it, but also methodology and approaches to all aspects of society, e.g. financial methods becoming more complex and technical just for complexity and technique's sake. Very good read, but a bit dry.

>>15701320
stop posting this

>>15702031
sorry I meant ISAIF**

Haven’t started Chaos yet and it’s what I really want to read now. Is 4 at once too many?

>>15701884
How’s reincarnation blues, title sounds interesting

>>15702429
it's a comic novel in the vein of Tom Robbins and Christopher Moore. I enjoy it immensely. If you like guys like that then it'll be up your alley. The idea of reincarnation is present obviously, but it's also a book with a clear thematic argument of be the best version of yourself you can be.

>>15697694
Le bon, Ogilvy, and Crystallizing public opinion are very based reads

>>15697694
Sorel seems cool

>>15697711
The burroughs and nyrb makes up for some of this, but not quite.

>>15697830
Lolita and the Porteus book seem very interesting.

>>15699365
>Library of America
They're gonna make it

>>15700017
Clockwork Orange and Crime and Punishment pair well, they're also very based, I do say

>>15701320
Very old image lol

>>15701884
>Vonnegut
Based, methinks. Got his Library of America editions coming.

>>15702028
Symposium and KJV are good. Only things I've read from there.

>>15702196
>Everyman's TBK
Beautiful.
>The History of Western Philosophy
Dropped.

I am >>15702495, and here's my stack, short and stout.

>>15702506
Bleeding Edge and Vineland are underrated because they're not exactly hard so people tend to dismiss them. They have a lot of sincerity going for them and seem to be more autobiographical for Pynchon, as much as his books can be considered autobiographical

>>15702464
Dank

Almost done crime and punishment
Just started atlas shrugged

The other 2 are just for flipping

>>15702689
How’s ride the tiger?

>>15702196
>Is 4 at once too many?
I'm reading the Iliad and Men of Mathematics, along with a math textbook and a Grammar textbook all at the same time, along with short stories from "A Treasury of Irish Fairy and Folk Tales" every day. I'm trying to force myself not to start any new books before I finish the Iliad (might read Brave New World before I start the Odyssey) but it's genuinely really difficult. It's not like I've stopped reading these books either, I'm going through at least 2-3 of them a day for some time, but I just can't help but want to keep reading new material.

>>15703286
i.e, some of the books I want to start reading include "Ukrainian Catholics in America," "The First World War: A History," some reader's digest biographies, a Psychology book, and a book on refining precious metal wastes, most of which I got today or just recently. I think I'm just fucking autistic man.

Current bedside table. The Bellow book is Herzog, the title somehow wore off completely.
Herzog is great and I'm probably going to try to finish it in the next day or two, The Red and the Black is so disappointing and incredibly boring that I never feel like picking it up anymore and may eventually drop it.

Here’s mine I’m really trying to get into more poetry I think it really helps with prose and structure

>>15701827
Definitely did, as evidenced by him lifting his most potent arguments directly from there.

>>15703570
How's Australia?

I cannot stand reading this awful abomination that is Don DeLillo's dumb shit book called "Zero K'.

Don DeLillo mark my words I'm going

>>15703300

Actually you have unbeknownst to you started on a journey of far grander knowledge than before. These links will chain and form a bond of neurons far spanner than that of a far quasar. Have no fear for all will reveal in due time.

>>15703851
really? I thought zero k was pretty mild. not great, that's for sure. but inoffensive, easy to read, and short enough not to be a bother

>>15703869

There is always a chance my brain may be as slow as a slug, however, on the contrary other hand so-to-speak if I were to postulate and stipulate and query quip quide and widen my mouth into the shape of an elephant I still could not reckon the egregious lost time I spent meandering through the swap of prose "zero k" so chooses to inhabit.

Often I came upon myself chiding my own self with thoughts of, "Why are you alive if you spend this precious and most short time alive doing that which is ultimately inane and retarded", and these thoughts persist until I shut "Zero K" and defenestrate my bound copy through my second story broke house building. On fire if possible.

>>15703043
Why have I seen so much Ayn Rand lately? Which of her books are worth reading?

Currently working my way through the Nature of the Gods, insightful and honest as expected but also extremely funny. Watching Cotta mercilessly shit all over the Epicureans had me crying with laughter.

>>15704007
none

>>15702031
Is there anything else I should read by Ellul before the Technological Society?

>>15704074
>The Peloponnesian War
How is this? Is it sort of like a document of the actual fighting taking place, strategies and such, or just a bullet point list of what happened and when?

>>15704175
Haven't read it yet but it basically invented history as we know it. Thucydides goes into detail about the geopolitics, records speeches, discusses the motivations of the people involved etc. It's not just one of those lists of 'this many men form this village, this many men from this village, this many ships from etc etc.'

>>15704208
Thanks, I'll definitely read it then.

>>15704091
I started with The Technological Society and then moved onto Propaganda. The lastest I’ve read from him is Money and Power. Start with The Technological Society than work your way from there.

>>15703674
Sorry bout that

>>15704626
mate...

Gonna buy The Odyssey this week so I'm gonna add that too

>>15701313
That's cool. I grew up speaking English and German, been trying to teach myself French. Making slow but somewhat steady progress. Considering I'm a humanitiesfag I feel compelled to at least have some language skills going for me.

>>15704626
crickey mate, you need to stick the books up on the ceiling and then flip your phone over to take a snap the yankees up top can see.

>>15704962
What translation does the Oxford Homers use? And is there annotations/ commentary?

>>15703094

Dense and often sporadic, but good. I start reading it when I get depressed and stop when I feel better, so I may never finish it.

Who writes the best poems out of Baudelaire, Rilke, Joyce, Plath and Marvell

>>15706097
people are still reading solzhenitsyn's faux authoritative trash? yikes

>>15706120
1/10 made me reply

Me summer stack, halfway through Serotonin, pretty good, bit rude though.

My gf just went book shopping, here’s her stack

>>15702495
what's wrong with the history of western philosophy? i haven't read much philosophy and wanted a general picture of it all before I started the Greeks

>>15707125

Dover math books are based af. I'm a big fan of Modern Library editions but usually only get them for English works, thats probably a Garnett translation which isn't terrible but not that great either.

>>15706097
Would hang out with

>>15703286
>>15703300
I know what you mean. Keep finding too many books I want to read and end up dropping some I'm currently reading to pursue the new. depends on mood too what I feel like reading

>>15703851
How's Applied Ballardianism?

>>15704007
Skip Atlas Shrugged and just read the Fountainhead, that way you will save alot of time and get the same concepts down.

>>15703867
I have that ceiling fan.

>>15701424
based hrabal stack

>>15703472
What Bellow is that?

>>15705415
Robert Fitzgerald. No, there's no notes or commentary, just a glossary of names at the back.

>>15699424
Reading Ghost Wars as well. How has this not been made into a Game of Thrones-style series yet? It has all the politics, backstabbing, intrigue, and violence, and it's all real. The story would follow CIA case officers, their KGB and ISI equivalents, politicians, mujahedeen commanders, and of course track the rise of Bin Laden. Throw in some sex, harshly beautiful Afgan geography, and a wicked soundtrack combining ethnic music and 80s pop hits and you have a pretty good TV show in my opinion.

>>15710340
... Herzog

>>15710752
Are you gonna do a terrorism bro?

>>15706097
enjoy your new dust collectors faggot

>>15706097
Borges and Mishima are the only good ones there.

Have not read McCarthy though.

>>15701320
gay

>>15697694
so if I understand this thread you post pictures of books you haven't read so others praise you for spending money on a item you've yet to use?

>>15703472
oi good stack and that, but you're having an absolute laugh saying The Red and the Black is boring. Where are you up to in it?

>>15707647
It's unanimously said to be terrible history of philosophy, even by analytics

No picture but I just bought

The death of Ivan Ilitch
Moby Dick
Antigone
The Metamorphosis
The picture of dorian gray

For 9€

>>15697694
fuck bernays. things would be different if he didn't sell out to the us government
>>15697711
Never heard of that burroughs but looks cool. Urbanomic chad
>>15699365
everything's an argument (but about convincing people you have somethign to say rather than that what you have to say is correct)
>>15702506
Enjoy Pynchon!
>>15706097
Excited for you to read GR. Read IJ first so it doesn't llok like pseudery in comparison
>>15707125
unnngh need a red scare gf. Tell her Anna Khachiyan is hotter than her
>>15714139
Excited for you to read AO!!

my list
>Intelligence and Spirit
>Moby Dick
>The Ticket that Exploded
>Taipei
>The work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction
>Dhalgren (maybe - been collecting dust for a while)

>>15710168
>A Temple of Texts
Holy based

Do you guys actually read these books or just take own them and take pictures of them ?

>>15714259
It's probably 50/50 around here.

>>15714259
>just take own them and take pictures of them
these faggots surely exist as well, but I would certainly hope it isn't even close to a >>15714490
50/50 split.

>>15714259
im posting the books ive read in the last month, not what ill read soon

otherwise how would i discuss the book?

Brown pill has got me interested in monks of different paths. What are some good books about monks?
Not looking for Brownpill reading list

>>15714785
I've read all those books. Enjoy your depression. (No but seriously, enjoy it.

>>15697694

>>15701320
>every day i will remind them

>>15702028
why would you ever just read straight up facts. dont you know that the human mind evolved to learn through story telling

it's the difference between hearing that 6 million jews died in ww2, a statistic too big to comprehend, to watching shindler's list, art and storytelling, that helps us to appreciate what happened although it was fiction

>>15710168
>Salinger, Gass, Barth, Rimbaud

Very respectable anon

>>15713213
Around 200 pages in, after the richest liberal tells the mayor that Julien's banging his wife. Nothing interesting or surprising has happened so far at all, the prose in my translation is dry, and the amazing psychology that got built up as rivaling the Russians isn't great.

>>15701320

hi

>>15716363
based and tankiepilled

>>15716458
not a tankie, nothing remotely like it either, but Deng was a great man worth studying, and if i am to conquer my enemy i must know him first.

>>15715130
Kutboeken

New to /lit/

>>15714785
What's Prometheus Rising like?

>>15715089
Thanks anon

>>15717057
It reads a little dated now (I think it was first published in 1983, although my version was an updated one from 1997). I hadn't heard of Timothy Leary's eight brain circuits of consciousness before, and Wilson does a great job of walking the reader through it. If you are interested in expanding consciousness and large scale human behavior I would recommend it.

>>15717138
Thanks for the reply anon, I'll try to give it a read.

>>15717138
Just make sure you have a good LSD and Pot dealer so you can complete the homework.

>>15713945
The Metamorphosis was a nice short read, and I liked Dorian Gray. You’ll like those I think.

roll

>>15716363
wtf why kissinger?

>>15717443
LOL why read the guy who was secretary for the President that opened up China to the world again lMAO

>>15701320
Absolute fucking tourist. Go back to pol or biz or reddit

>>15717508
>Absolute fucking tourist

>>15717508
How...... ironic...

>>15717443
he's THE guy for reading about china. his experience is second to none. he was a brilliant diplomat that completely shaped the world we know today.

>>15717508

>>15717443
>why do you want to know the perspective of one of the world's most influential men? noooo you can't just read him, he's a bad person! nooooo

>>15717808
>he was a brilliant diplomat
Doing a lot is not equivalent to being brilliant.
Kissinger did shape the world today but for the worse.