/lit/ - Literature

Anything by a Catholic Social Theorist before the 1964.

Any book written under capitalism

>>15689547
For example?

>>15689751
The Big Book of Reddit

>>15689395
Spengler

>>15689751
My diary desu

>>15689756

i dont understand why religion has been set up in opposition to many left and right wing political beleifs, since religion in its core is not political or about this world really at all; yet people seem intent on forcing it into the category of politics in order to seek excuses to get rid of it (wont work btw)

>>15690048
>i dont understand why religion has been set up in opposition to many left and right wing political beleifs
political philophy comes from theology.

>clergy
>capitalist
wut

>>15690060
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusionism

>>15690217
too bad America was founded as a secular state which has never had a clergy.

>>15690229
Don't forget the church sided with a literal fascist during the Spanish civil war

>>15690245
And that’s a good thing.

>>15690229
>too bad America was founded as a secular state which has never had a clergy.
lmao

>>15690255
let me guess: your special snowflake definitions of religion meas pastor billy bob is somehow a cleric?

>>15690245
Francoism and fascism aren't capitalist lmao. Franco opened the markets in the 50’s but it was a pragmatic move.

>>15690271
You should look into the Protestant roots of American academia and it's evolution into Liberal Progressivism

>>15690248
Then don't bitch about how anarchists killed the heckin preisterinoos

>>15690298
You got any good literature on that

>>15690303
non sequitur

>>15690325
Revenge isn't based on logic

>>15690314
If you want a basic gestalt I'd read over a Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservation by Moldbug plus Moldbug namedrops other sources.

Aside from that the book Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America goes over the formulation of different American ideas and institutions as a result of competition between 4 Religio-Ethnic groups that made up the vast majority of early Americans in a lot of depth.

>>15690342
The white terror wasn’t revenge, it was pesticide.

>>15690288
Fascism is capitalism in decay - Lenin

>>15690348
Thanks Anon

>>15690357
Damn if he said it it must be true.

>>15690357
>noo, we got the monopoly on anti-capitalism, our way is the only true way

>>15690314
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Gospel
It's good to be familiar with this

>>15690298
protestants are not christians. the entire point of protestantism is the rejection of christian dogma. Protestantism is liberalism.

>>15690493
Doesn't mean they're not a clergy. You could also call it Satanism since it's created a world where pretty much every sin other than Murder is socially acceptable.

>>15690388

>>15690255
many US states had State Churches up until the Civil War or so and the creation of the Incorporation Doctrine.

>>15690342
Congrats on BTFOing yourself.

>>15690541
Sauce?

>>15690534
Not fat enough to pass for Marx

>>15689395
Marxist Works ie Adorno (Good where descriptive of flaws, horrible for solutions)
Fascist and National Socialist Works ie Gottfried Feder
Classic Cyberpunk works

>>15689413

>>15689395
*slams comically large copy of Kapital onto the table*
here :)

>>15690048
A lot of marxists believe that the church in medival europe was oppressive, and a tool to keep people docile.

>>15690048
The ancien regime of Europe was associated with the Church, so because lefties fetishize the French Revolution, of course they want to destroy religion.

>>15690048
>since religion in its core is not political or about this world really at all
Protip: everything is about this world, the only world that exists

>>15690709

>>15690778
>When your revolution is so disastrous that you re-elect a monarch a decade later.

>>15690792
The values of the revolution far outlived the monarchy that followed

>>15690986
cope

>>15691026
Why do i need to cope the revolution was successful in in long run and literally changed the course of world history.

>>15690609

>>15690986
lol

>>15691110
Nice cope

>>15691110
>>15691026
Why did what he posted get deleted?

>>15691217
It was too damn cringe.

>>15691217
Something about the french revolution

>>15689395
mein kampf

>>15689413
Based

>>15690555
Open an American history book. Much of the Constitution originally applied only to the Federal government. Incorporation was a massive centralization.

>>15689395
None. There are none.
Might I recommend some works by Smith, Friedman, Rand or Sowell?

>>15690048
"I do not see in religion the mystery of the incarnation, but the mystery of the social order; religion attaches to heaven an idea of equality that stops the rich from being massacred by the poor." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Capitalism isn't real. Only selection pressures are real. You can "not do capitalism" but what really matters is your selection pressures. Do you select for the ability to innovate technology? Do you select for compliance? Do you select for violence? The problem with leftists is that they think they can improve upon religion, a system that asks for mental hygiene on the most fundamental level, instead they ask people to do well for "the good of the party" or for "the good of humanity"

>>15689395
The Jungle - Upton Sinclair

>>15690357
Look man, you're never gonna convince me the reinvigoration of a people is capitalism, especially if capitalism itself debases said people in the name of Mammon.

unironically

>>15690388
No Anarchists and Feudal Conservatives can also be anti capital.

>>15692459
Internal contradictions of capital accumulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_contradictions_of_capital_accumulation

>>15690777
Waste of blessed trips

>>15690048
Like leftism, catholicism is slave morality that gets in the way of the hyperfascsist state a. Total work of art sculpted out of well toned human bodies. If you dont have the courage to cull the unworty what good are you even for?

>>15690694
>the church in medival europe was oppressive, and a tool to keep people docile
Have they spent any time at all reading about the vast number of wars waged in those centuries? Because if the church was supposed to keep people docile then they clearly failed.

>>15693839
Based and truthpilled.

>>15693928
Docile against rising up against their own rulers not killing fellow peasants

>>15690609
soiboys hate christianity

>>15695642
>Docile against rising up against their own rulers
Peasant rebellions were rare, but not entirely unheard of. Disputes involving the peasantry were typically solved by economic changes rather than force of arms. Peasants were not skilled at warfare, peasants were not soldiers and did not pretend to be. Trying to fight was always their last resort so they used it sparingly. Contrary to popular belief the nobility and upper and middle classes were not overly eager to slaughter their own peasants either.

Meanwhile, virtually every monarch of every major country ignored or abused the pope at their convenience. Churches were frequent targets for plunder. Rome was even sacked on more than one occasion. The church was not a very effective organization.

>>15689395

>>15695813
>tfw this is actually a good selling book on Amazon
>this guy made more money writing than you ever will
In a way it is a critique of capitalism.

>>15693839
>facism is not slave morality
oooh am I laffin

>>15689395
There are none, that's why it is sad to see pseuds shill lefty economics

>>15693839
>Like leftism, catholicism is slave morality
Fascism is basically wanting a big strong man to be the daddy of the whole nation. Fascist are just sissys who want to be dominated

>>15695944
>Marxism
>Leninism
>Maoism
>Stalinism
>Chavism
>tfw you realize commies do the same but with anti-heros
>the world is a struggle between heros and anti-heroes
>heroes are non-existant
>anti heroes are hipocrites
>we are doomed

>>15695868
I remember reading this during holidays at my grandparents house.

>>15696007
What did you think of it? Personally one of my favourites in the series

>>15695819
It's also a critique of your wit

>>15695978
Lol cope

>>15696090
lol not an argument leftard

>>15695805
It was in the serfs interest to revolt against their rulers (for obvious reasons)
The rulers needed to keep them quiet; through violence at times, or through bullshitting them by the church, telling them that if they don't revolt they'll go to heaven, and that it's god who spreads wealth so if they work hard enough they might one day become like the nobility.
Sure, revolts did happen at times, but if not for the church they would have happened much more often

>>15689413
>>15690609
True chads are liberation theologists

>>15689395
How can you btfo an ideology that has no stated goals, only one principle, and is always correct by its own premises?

>>15692494
>Moishe

>>15689413
fpbp

>>15696375
>wojakposting to cope

>>15690357
Lenin never really said that platitude, you braindead mongoloid

>>15692389
If you'd have mentioned Hayek instead of Rand i would have taken you seriously

>>15695699
t. tradcath who was a fedora two weeks ago (and will be one again in another two weeks)

>>15695944
>t. never knew his father

>>15698913
Lol looks like i hit a nerve there

>Lol looks like i hit a nerve there

>>15695819
It's honestly better literature than all the intersectional crap that is spun out by LA schools.

>>15689395
Why is wojak just a formless lump on Marx' shoulder?

>>15696090
what is the point of posts like this. The guy's entirely right, lefties do suck off Stalin and Che and whoever in exactly the same way.

>>15699549
Lol owned

>>15690048
Marxism is a religion

>>15689395
idk about capitalism, but adam smith completely btfos landlords and other parasites in the wealth of nations

>>15689395
The Communist Manifesto

>>15689395
I don't understand why castrated millennials hate le capitalism so much.
The door is wide open for them to fuck off to a non-capitalist country.
Yet everyone is desperate to move to le evil capitalist Amerikkka.

Is the youth that retarded to fall for poser teen trends?>>15689395

>>15689395
no such a thing exist