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What prevents you from offing yourself

>> No.15666240

>>15666231
Read the Truth of Rebirth by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. It convinced me against suicide.

>> No.15666244
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15666244

>>15666231
I imagine Sisyphus happy

>> No.15666245

i'm literally immortal

>> No.15666249

>>15666231
Life is good.

>> No.15666255

spite

>> No.15666258

>>15666231

As you already knew, there is this pernicious thing known as the survival instinct which obtains in almost all human organisms, and which almost always overrides the drive to oblivion, even when the latter is intellectually and correctly understood.

>> No.15666261

>>15666244
Are there any arguments as to why Sisyphus wouldn't be happy?

>> No.15666262

>>15666231
Mum would be sad

>> No.15666264

I'm offing myself, just in a very slow way

>> No.15666265

Personal obligations and fear of messing it up and bringing more suffering into my life

>> No.15666268

>>15666262
Would she, though?

>> No.15666285

>>15666231
lack of easily available firearms

>> No.15666293

>>15666262
fuck her it's all her fault you turned this way

>> No.15666295

>>15666261
That he's condemned to carry that stone, and a condemnation isn't supposed to be happy, but tormentous.

>> No.15666298

>>15666262
If your parents really knew who you were, would they still like you?

>> No.15666323

>>15666245
sorry to hear that

>> No.15666328

>>15666295
at least he has a purpose, unlike us

>> No.15666344

>>15666231
I'm too scared to.

>> No.15666345

>>15666298
...no

>> No.15666359

>>15666323
don't be
all my lives have been great so far

>> No.15666391

>>15666231
I made a promise to kill myself only if I manage to find a way to kill everyone else along with me. If I never do, I’ll just endure until I die of old age.

>> No.15666403

>>15666231
My parents would kill themselves.

>> No.15666415

>>15666231
I'm programmed not to

>> No.15666461

>>15666391
>to kill everyone else
you mean everyone else or only your surroundings?. every human or nothing?.

>> No.15666487

>>15666231
I know with certainty that God has a plan for me, and that I am capable of changing the world, because he has told me directly. If I didn't believe this, I would have killed myself already.

>> No.15666532

>>15666298
Yeah but I don’t like that I’m too flawed to not be able to keep that much to myself from them

>> No.15666543

>>15666244
INSANELY BASED

>> No.15666607

>>15666231
I'm not a nihilist or a relativist. I guess you could say I'm a Platonist of sorts, although I'm also a naturalist.

>> No.15666675

>>15666461
Everyone else. So, unless I learn how to control asteroids with my mind or get my hands on some mega-virus, I guess I’ll just live my normal life until I die at 80-90ish.

>> No.15666695

>>15666231
Momentum, mostly.
But I have two other thoughts on the matter:
First, if I were going to die, why would I care about my finances? I should open up credit cards, max them out, travel around the world and fuck prostitutes in every country.
Secondly, how many completely awful garbage human beings are currently walking the Earth, living? Why should I have to die while these evil people still eat, laugh, breathe, fuck, and otherwise live? I might as well drown myself in naked hedonism until my body breaks.

>> No.15666858
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>>15666245
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uz6anwm47g

>> No.15666937

>>15666858
Read the upanishads and calm down. This is nothing new.

>> No.15666949

Because Jesus Christ loves me (and all of us) and may have a purpose for me yet

>> No.15666984

>>15666858
The universe is finite in time and space

Checkm8

>> No.15666990

>>15666262

came to post this

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15667091

>>15666231
Very little

>> No.15667318

>>15666231
This board and my writings. Thank you guys.

>> No.15667723

>>15666231
>Feels depressed
>Goes outside for a long walk at the park
>Sees how beautiful nature is
>Goes home with a better mood and gets stuff done

>> No.15667756

>>15666858
How do I escape

>> No.15667764
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15667764

>>15666231
Because I feel as though there is an adventure still to have. And to quote; an adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered. Lockdowns are a very boring adventure, I'll admit, but I want to see what happens on the other side of Corona.

>> No.15667766

Mostly fear but Ive tried. Its easier than I thought, atleast up to a certain point.

>> No.15667799

>>15666231
>It will generally be found that, as soon as the terrors of life reach the point at which they outweigh the terrors of death, a man will put an end to his life. But the terrors of death offer considerable resistance; they stand like a sentinel at the gate leading out of this world. -Schopenhauer

>> No.15667888

I haven't read enough yet. My only regret is my inability to create literature of my own. Damned to be crushed by the giants whose shoulders I wished to have stood on.

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>>15666231
First of all, living itself and trying to appreciate every second I get to be alive, since I'll spend most of the time dead from here on out to the end of the universe anyway. Might as well see where this takes me.

Second, there's always opportunity for things to get better and the future be brighter as long as I'm alive and I keep chugging along. Life is unpredictable and thinking tomorrow will be as bad or worse as today is just lying to yourself, it's an illusion.

I'll be dead soon enough, why rush?

>> No.15667952
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15667952

The real immediate reason is that it would cause an unfathomable collapse in my family.

The reason I tell myself and work toward is that God put me forth into existence for a reason. Even if I'm to be nothing but a single-use tool in a microcosmically insignificant thread in the tapestry of life, my contribution being imperceptible even on a human level, I live to fulfill that purpose. Who am I, in my human arrogance, to tell God that He was wrong in creating me, that I know or deserve better because I suffer? Dukkha is the only constant certainty of conscious existence. Am I to kill myself because the sky is blue or water is wet, also? To thrash against the confines of mortality is not to be heroic or brave, it is to be supremely arrogant in a way only human beings can be.

>> No.15667960

>>15666231
I might be the messiah and I don't want to take any chances

>> No.15667961

>>15666345
Yes they would anon.

>> No.15668461

>>15666231
uhhhh, not offing yourself, i guess....????????????????

>> No.15668638

I have ambition and the potential to fulfill it. Even if I didn't I'd find it.

>> No.15668775

>>15668461
yeah, that has always been the hardest part for me

>> No.15668779

>>15666293

Chill out mate

>> No.15668783

A spectacular death awaits us all.

>> No.15668785

The credit card company hasn't come to seize my few assets yet.

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>>15668638
>implying you have potential
>implying you could fulfill it
you do know essence comes after existence, right?

>> No.15668817

>>15667318
same.

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>>15666231
I haven't been alive long enough yet. Maybe it gets better at 30.

>> No.15668824

>>15668789
I didn't imply it I outright said it retard.

>> No.15668832

Fear is pretty much the only thing. Even the only "ideal" life I could achieve, which is be successful at a job by pretending to be normal 40 hours a week, then get a better job and continue being miserable until I die, is both distant and unappealing.

>> No.15668840

>>15666231
incompetence.

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>>15668824
>>15668638
>implying there is such a thing as potential one could have it
>implying you have what it takes to fulfill anything
fixed it

>> No.15668852

>>15666231
Nothing but spite

>> No.15668863

>>15666231
the world continues to exist with or with out me, and i am given this sort sliver in time to exist within it. I have chosen to take what little time i have for i have all eternity to be dead.

>> No.15668869

>>15666231
Cowardice

>> No.15668870

>>15666262
this

>> No.15668882

>>15666293
that's a bad attitude to have, blaming other people for YOUR problems

>> No.15668886

>>15668882
I dunno but if a mother and a father have a kid without a digestive tract because one of them didn't have a digestive tract and they knew this was going to happen they should have not had the child.

>> No.15668890

>>15666293
Not entirely

>> No.15668892

Truthfully: same as everyone else, sheer fear of death
But I've read a lot of philosophy and classic literature to fill my heads with plenty of coping spooks that let me believe that I'm living for something and have values to treasure.

>> No.15668896

>>15666231
Mis padres

>> No.15668922

>>15668886
i mean shinji turned out alright

>> No.15668927

>>15668922
Yeah but Araki is still a hack.

>> No.15668938
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>>15666231
I still have hope things will improve. Naive I know

>> No.15668945

>>15666231
Are all these people really suicidal or just memeing? If not than why tf does 4chan attract so many suicidal people?

>> No.15668955

>>15668945
nah I really want to kill myself

>> No.15668956

>>15668847
Not everyone is as untalented as you lmao.

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15668959

>kill self.
>your consciousness re-appear in some other life form on different time and different place in the universe after gazillion^gazillion of years but it feels like a millisecond for you.

big-bang was a mistake.

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>>15668945
Gen Z is here. They are the most unhappiest generation in human history.

>> No.15668982

>>15668945
I mean I am but that's because I'm not only autistic but have a host of other bad genes and personalities calcifications.
I mean how the fuck could I not be depressed knowing that the world would legitimately be better off without me?

>> No.15668988

>>15666231
i don't want to hurt any of the three people who genuinely care about me.
if things changed, however, and my existence became an undeniable burden for them all, i will with no hesitation kill myself off.

>> No.15668994

Creation has given you the gift of life but also the gift of death
It means you were put here to suffer but you were also born to understand none of that suffering will last forever
You have been avenged from life even before you were born, nothing can touch you here for as long as you understand this
Imagine you are being tortured. The real pain the tortured feels is not that he's been tortured, but that he doesn't know where the torturing will go, or how long it will last.

>> No.15668997

>>15668956
talent is an unfalsifiable spook. hard work and success? talent. hard work and no success? no talent. why? don't ask.

>> No.15669000

>>15668997
Hard work is a spook used by genetic low IQ peasants to justify why they should be king.

>> No.15669003

>>15666231
Contentment and happiness

>> No.15669009

>>15669003
how do i imagine myself happy?

>> No.15669011

>>15668997
Lol loser.

>> No.15669024

>>15668982
anon you're valuable to me (no homo) and I'd be saddened if you offed yourself, unless ur an irredeemable cunt

>> No.15669027

>>15669024
>unless ur an iredeemable cunt
What do you think "the world would be better off without me" means?

>> No.15669029

>>15668963
Why tho? Not judging , just honestly asking

>>15668955
>>15668982
I hope you get better anons <3. There are people who care

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>ignored by the "there are people who care anon :)" posters as usual
like pottery

>> No.15669046

>>15669044
I care anon <3

>> No.15669050

>>15666231
I don't know how

>> No.15669059

>>15666231
My best friend killed himself, I love my parents and even tho I hate society and its upcoming future I want to be loved by a woman and start a family with her.
>>15666244
Based.

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>>15669000
>Hard work is a spook
kek

>> No.15669066

>>15669046
insincere fuck, get lost

>> No.15669073

>>15669059
>My best friend killed himself
Why?

>> No.15669087

>>15668963
Kids have always been and always will be whiny faggots. If anything, I suspect that suicide rate among millenials was slightly higher because of the whole emo thing.

>> No.15669088

>>15669027
9 out of 10 times people like you have a skewed image of themselves and are fixated in small things. you're a good lad unless you are planning a genocide

>> No.15669115

>>15669073
I wish I knew it for fuck's sake. All I know is that he hated his parents, expecially her mother. It makes me think that even people we think we really know we really don't know them deep inside. He was the man, full of friends and girls loving him. Last time I saw him he said "see you for christmas anon!" (It was summer and he studied in another city). His death was a turnpoint in my life, my innocence lost. I unironically live to keep him and its memory alive in me, I know it sounds naive but that's the truth. This summer will be 3 years without him.

>> No.15669123

>>15666231
I believe that with my death the universe would die ;\

>> No.15669133

>>15669087
>suicide rate among millenials was slightly higher because of the whole emo thing.
How can you be so retarded?
The "whole emo thing" was nothing more than a fad in the same way as hipsters and swagfagging.
If you seriously think anyone killed themselves purely because it was the emo thing to do, you're a fucking moron.

Why can't you be suicidal instead? You aren't doing anyone e a favor otherwise.

>> No.15669146

>>15669115
Not the anon you replied but anyway. Your friend killing himself should show you something anon, especially if you're feeling depressed about other things, to you he had it all but obviously that doesn't mean anything. Ponder on life anon, talk long, multiple hour long walks and really think about it. Find those basic things that make life worth living along with your firends memory. Immortalize him in a novel, live the way he lived. Take the good from him and use it. Make him part of you and in years time you may have a child with a woman that you only approached because you took on that confidence your friend had and you raise that child and you fill them with that confidence of your friend. Have him live on not only through a memory but as a force to improve the lives of yourself and others.

>> No.15669150

>>15669123
only if you would kill yourself, with a particle accelerator.

>> No.15669171

>>15669146
Thank you for taking the time to write this, I screenshot your post as a reminder for the future. You are right, we should all learn from our experience in order to improve ourselves.

>> No.15669189

>>15669171
You're welcome anon, I hope you live a happy life.

>> No.15669204

>>15669087
kys retard

>> No.15669226

>>15666262
This

I think about suicide everyday several times. I tried pretending to believe in G-d for sometime and I felt so disgusted by my hypocrisy. There's no way out of nihilism and pessimism. And anhedonia is a dagger on the top.

>> No.15669284

>>15669189
You too brother

>> No.15669331
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15669331

Thoughts on her?
Her life was probably worse than everyone elses in this thread but she is extremely well adjusted and empathetic and would do it all over again just to get the temporary peace she has had in the last couple of years, still appreciated whatever small amount of good she had in her life despite the overwhelming suffering

>> No.15669390

>>15669331
Who? And what's her story?

>> No.15669412

>>15666328
There is no purpose, that's the point of the myth.

>> No.15669423

>>15666231
My enjoyment of life

>> No.15669425

>>15666293
Ok Freud

>> No.15669429

>>15669423
you wouldn't be here if you were truly happy. stop kidding yourself

>> No.15669436 [DELETED] 

The Winds of Winter

>> No.15669442

anyone got the source for this, if it's even real and not westoids larping, i want to read it in japanese.

>> No.15669449

>>15669429
Not him but I come here because I dont mind to look into hearts of darkness. It helps me to put things into perspective by seeing the conditions of mental illness and instability firsthand.

>> No.15669450

>>15669390
the streamer with Tourette's?

>> No.15669478

>>15669390
sweet anita
She has tourettes, was abused by relatives as a child because of her condition/environment, was beaten unconscious by people 5 years older than her in the 1 year of formal education she had all because of her condition, was chased and had stones regularly thrown at her outside of school. had two long term relationships one ending with her being beaten all across her body for months until she escaped, one having her business&savings robbed and threatening her life, having 6+ rl stalkers some of whom assaulted her in her own home and chased her from shops armed with a knife (mentions people like to get close to her because they see her as a crazy/vulnerable person they can take advantage of), roommate who tried to poison her, not able to work any regular job or have much independence because of her neurological condition, having a rare autoimmune disorder which causes her throat to be stripped and to cough up blood and get very poor sleep, has adhd comorbid with tourettes, having to be a full time carer for her mother who has parts of her brain missing and to be attacked by strangers in public throughout her life because of her verbal/physical tics, always has to be conscious of her safety when by herself in public or using transport due to her condition (can slap/hit people and scream insults) had anxiety, depression and isolated herself for 4 years (no internet/tv barely any food due to her mother being sick and poor, had to care for her mother during this time) after she left school at 13 and thought normal social interaction was looking at strangers passing her house window, was homeless for years as a child, lived in a treehouse in a field at one point with a group of other homeless people and a lot of other things which she doesn't share or that I can't remember well, probably some drug related things or more detail on the physical abuse

And yet she is still one of the most rational, capable, empathetic, mature, intelligent, charismatic, emotionally regulated, patient, mentally resilient person I've ever seen

>> No.15669499

>>15669478
Is this a pasta?

>> No.15669505

>>15669449
>I come here because I dont mind to look into hearts of darkness
Top fucking kek

>> No.15669508

>>15669066
This is why you probably have trust issues

>> No.15669525

>>15668823
> gets better at 30
now thats what I call delusion

>> No.15669547

>>15669508
how does that explain trust issues?
please do tell

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>>15668823
>Maybe it gets better at 30.

>> No.15669635

>>15668823
>Maybe it gets better at 30.
anon....

>> No.15669731

I wonder what makes one person commit suicide. I don't think I would ever be able to do it. I like living despite its shortcomings.

>> No.15669900

>>15666262
This...

>> No.15669997
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Plotinus said it's a sin
Hermes Trismegistus said that to leave this world without offspring was also a sin.

>Now the doctrine that is taught in secret about this matter, that we men are in a kind of prison and must not set ourselves free or run away, seems to me to be weighty and not easy to understand. But this at least, Cebes, I do believe is sound, that the gods are our guardians and that we men are one of the chattels of the gods. Do you not believe this?”
>“Yes,” said Cebes, “I do.”
>Well then,” said he, “if one of your chattels should kill itself when you had not indicated that you wished it to die, would you be angry with it and punish it if you could?”
>"Certainly,” he replied.
“>Then perhaps from this point of view it is not unreasonable to say that a man must not kill himself until god sends some necessity upon him, such as has now come upon me.”
>“That,” said Cebes, “seems sensible.

>> No.15670071

>>15667764
Absolutely based.

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>>15666244
One must imagine Hamsterus happy.

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>>15666231
>What prevents you from offing yourself
muh family and Christianity
For real, my pop always lectures about the insincerity of suicide whenever it comes up and I know its aimed at because I had breakdown in my early adulthood before I got my meds straightened.
I'm not particularly afraid of death (and I'm tired of people thinking I'm suicidal) but I did have a nightmare last night that some psycho bitch LARPing as Jack Torrance tried to stab the shit out of me with a scalpel.

>> No.15670176

>>15667723
This desu, hiking always puts me in a great state of mind

>> No.15670351

>>15666858
This is somehow more scary than the assumption that there is nothing after death. Maybe because I'm not used to this idea.

>> No.15670366

>>15669331
>Her life was probably worse than everyone elses in this thread
bold statement to make without any proof

>> No.15670370

My cats would forever wonder where I went. That's it.

>> No.15670381

>>15670083
>What prevents you from offing yourself
nothing, by the time you read this post, i am already dead

>> No.15670384

>>15669478
Lol but is she a virgin, the actual measure of suffering

>> No.15670456

>>15670370
Trust me, cats don't care.

>> No.15670593

>>15670456
My cat whines when I come home after a 12hr shift and purrs, so I have to believe she cares; I don't mind the thought of her eating me if I died in my home alone with her.

>> No.15670641

>>15670593
>My cat whines when I come home after a 12hr shift and purrs
Sounds like she really likes you (I hope it's not just because of food), I'm glad to hear that.

>> No.15670722

>>15666262
mom*

>> No.15670763

>>15668823
It won't magically get better at 30 if you don't try to change anything in your 20s. At most, it will get less worse because you become used to suffering.

>> No.15670785

>>15668945
I came to 4chan when I wanted to kill myself. Now I don't, but I still come here. "You're here forever" really ain't a joke.

>> No.15670794

>>15670384
Comical, anon. Perhaps you should have sex.

>> No.15670883

>>15670763
Not him but I really need an answer. I think I wasted my 20s because of mental illness in general, but I'm better now. Will I be able to find meaning in life in my 30s or is it too late?

>> No.15670899

>>15668882
cope, a building with bad foundation will crumble

>> No.15671023

>>15666231
>>15666231
can I get a name on the original artwork

>> No.15671697

>>15670883
Stop thinking your life is so special it needs to have some specific outcome to have meaning
Think of all the trillions of people who have ever lived, what is the meaning of their lives?
Stop thinking like that, you will be chasing wind indefinitely

>> No.15671750

>>15666262
i literally only said 'i dont like my life' and my mom started crying. dont know what would happen if i actually offed myself. she was near catatonic for 2 years after my uncle, her brother, passed