/lit/ - Literature

>>15642950
I liked it too, friend. Very cozy.

literally who

Pseuds filter.

I liked it tho

>>15642950
How exactly did it remind you of Tolstoy's work?

It was okay.

>le myth of orpheus
the only fucking greek myth pseuds know about

you were meant to say andrei rublev

>>15643330
This. Fuck all contemporary cinema, art haus or not.

>>15643325
Sisyphus is clearly the pseud Greek myth.

What movie?

I cried in the theater senpai

>>15642950
what's the movie called?

>>15643157
>>15643506
>>15643517
Portrait of a Lady on Fire

>>15643536
Thanks fren

>>15643272
i don't know. the realism, the dialogue. how the emotion hit you. it's one of those things i'm too stupid to articulate well enough to convince someone else of the validity of my experience. just an intuitive feeling in the marrow of my bones. for example, all music in the movie comes from sources within the film itself therefore realism. very natural dialogue and conversations and relations between people, for example when she first comes to the house and her and the maid have a silent conversation filled with knowing glances as she eats the bread and cheese. i could imagine that being a scene in war and peace. final example, i could really imagine the choir music from the dress burning scene being like perfectly applicable to Anna Karenina, as in it beginning with the death of levin's brother, when he gasps his last breaths in immense pain, and then these images being cross-cutted with the birth of levin's first child. growth, decay. life, death. the feeling of otherworldiness and the supernatural that i think is elicted from the chapter of AK with nikolai's death being called 'DEATH' - pretty reminiscent of this scene where it feels like a moment of transcendance from everyday reality

>>15642950
Babbys le epic arthouse feminist kino

>>15643643
also the fact the main characters are all very intelligent and sensitive people. this sensitivity being most evident when she lapses into hysterical tears mixed with joy while listening to the orchestra music at the end. an example from a tolstoy novel that exemplifies this (imo) is Pierre when he sees the burning comet of 1812 branded into the black night sky amongst the stars over moscow while riding in the carriage and it powerfully affects him. these types of moments

>>15643665
also of course prince andrei's recurring motif of the clouds scudding across the sky.

>Portrait of a Lady on Fire ... is a 2019 French
Into the trash

>>15642950
Thanks for the recc based anon, sounds like a promising movie.

I liked it as well

>>15642950
haven't seen it, how good is it? can you compare it to another movie? comparing it to tolstoy seems like an exaggeration

>>15643695
i dont even think it's an exaggeration. it's absolutely brilliant. ive watched a lot of movies and it's in my top 3. if i had to give an example of a movie that is just as good, probably there will be blood, once upon a time in america, manchester by the sea. i can't think of any movies that are very similar because i havent watched enough of them. it's a love story though.

It was okay, but I feel like it's way overhyped. A decent 7/10

>>15643703
give ur top 10 so we have an idea of your movie taste

>>15643834
my top 36 in no particular order (continued)

>>15643864

Abortion good: The Movie

>>15643866
>>15643864
Starter watching movies in 2018 starter pack

>>15643887
>sneering
get a life lol

>>15643864
>>15643866
What is this website

>>15643893
letterboxd, great for keeping a visual diary of films you've watched, though i dont really give a shit for the social aspect

>>15643893
letterboxd

>>15643897
>>15643898
Cool sounds handy, will look into it

>>15643887
not wrong, but good picks nonetheless

>>15643912
>>15643887
have some more

>>15643924
cont

I’ve been boycotting non male writers and directors ever since the ‘no boys allowed’ showings of Wonder Woman

>>15643912
>good pics
Literally the most basic most obvious "dude I LOVE kinos" possible

>>15643946
look at my other choices. just because i like movies that are universally liked doesn't mean that's everything i've ever seen, lol

>>15643932
You got better taste than most people thats for sure, though i'd recommend trying out some more foreign folks, truffaut, wenders, bergman, fellini, antonioni, yang, haneke, herzog etc.

>>15643946
everyone starts somewhere

>>15643949
ty for recs

>>15643953
np, if you have a specific genre you like or a favourite film I could be more specfic.

All her films are shit, this one’s no exception. Terrible actor direction as usual.

>>15643955
in the similiar vein to daniel plainview's discourses on religion, 'i like all genres, i like them all'. more foreign directors tho plz theres very little information or discussion about them online and that's the source of 99.9% of the movies i sit down to watch

>>15643948
Pathetic honestly, watch more films

>>15643962
fair enough

>>15643932
>Infinity War, Star Wars, OUTH, Mission impossible and Joker.
>Above or same rating as Shame, Good Time, Uncut Gems.
It's like you made this thread to infuriate me.

>>15643969
infinity war is enough above shame, good time and uncut gems, lol. and my personal enjoyment is not representative of objective quality. obviously shame is better than joker. mission impossible fallout is a perfect action movie tho so yeah

>>15643974
is not above************** ffs rofl (they are all 8/10, i.e. same rating)

>>15643961
>victor erice
>ken loach
>terrence malick
>yasujirō ozu
>andrei tarkovsky
>jean luc godard
>františek vláčil
> krzysztof kieślowski
>rainer fassbinder

the last two also made two tv shows that are very much worth your time: Dekalog, Berlin
Alexanderplatz also another tv show: I, Claudius
some documantiers too:
>crumb
>act of killing
>encounters at the end of the world
>pictures of the old world
>grey gardens
>paris is burning
>sans soleil
>palms (ladoni)
>west of the tracks
thats all i can think of right now but be sure to also watch the films that win big at the berlin, venice and cannes film festivals, even the grand jury and director picks can be worthwhile

>>15643986
ive seen thin red line and act of killing but are unlogged so feel slightly less bad lmao. thanks tho once again appreciate the effort you expended in compiling that

>>15643988
np man, my favourite malick films are actually his older ones days of heaven and badlands. Though his latest a hidden life is quite good, one fav i forgot to mention is bela tarr, though be warned he is in the category of "slow cinema" I'd start with turin horse and werckmeister harmonies for those before diving into Sátántangó. Also I'll just say that I really only got into cinema about a year or so ago, so dont worry man

>>15643536
I saw the trailer on tv and it looked like pretentious lesbian arthouse made by a woman. Scorsese's Silence, though flawed, seems like it was a better movie.

>>15643703
>there will be blood, once upon a time in america, manchester by the sea.
Lmao okay kid, it's overrated like all of those movies. Though considering the movie the Op is about, There Will be Blood is far better, and it's an averagely good film. It's mostly just teenagers who exaggerate it because of its "le masculine" development that it offers to a pubescent.

>>15643864
>>15643866
LMAO IT GETS EVEN WORSE!!!!!

>>15644005
odd comparison? I'd compare silence to something more like Dersu Uzala by Kurosawa, though lady on fire did remind me of the piano by Jane Campion. The only good female directors I like are Claire Denis, Agnes Varda and Larisa Shepitko

>>15644017
Comparison because their both more recent films, while referencing Kurosowa is completely off, just because it's set in Japan.

I can tell this movie is bad, because you have bad taste, and the footage I have seen looks bad and little better in directing than a british bbc detective show.

>>15644016
ok im basic give me a break lmao

Everyone says Last Year at Marienbad is amazing, but I'm not sure if it's as good as the trailer makes out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Tvl1Fuxt8

Can someone confirm?

>>15644039
??? are u retarded I made the comparison since they were closer in style of film who cares if they are not recent, and when did I say I enjoyed lady on fire?

>>15642950
I'm not gonna watch a movie about lesbians. End of story.

>>15644039
and its not even set in japan you mongoloid

>>15643864
You cannot be serious

>>15644042
I'm sorry but this is just what happens when gets sucked into the degenerate entertainment of cinema, it can only ever be a lower art but man is stimulated by the instant gratification the ability of cinematography gives, without giving anything beyond this. As I said, whenever film is in becoming of an achievement unique to its own form, that is through cinematography, it can only ever be a lower art, but is predominately merely entertainment. It's why whatever minuscule of value a normal film has, it's always dependent on the script. Because it must be play first, and film second, for it to have any real content. Kurosowa and Riefenstahl are great because of this, even Kubrick though I'm not as much a fan. Someone like Bergman is an overrated ingenuitor of film, with little actual content, whereas for the most part content only comes by the hopeful inferrence of the audience that it does have some more meaning. Or the occasional luck of a short period of a scene to actually pull of some sense of the vague imaginative idea he first had, like playing chess with death for the first time is a rare example of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4yXBIigZbg

I haven't watched Welles yet, but he seems to obviously follow the play first and movie second, however he is also more of ingenuitor than an artist. Very few true directors-as-artists.

>>15644056
I also counted this in, the films are not similar in style.

>>15644063
Do you think I care? It's directed by a jap.

>>15644108
really? I've heard the argument bergman essentially stages a play and films it. He's never reliant on his cinematography too excel the story and nor does anyone watch his films for that.

>>15644118
ok so you're a pseud, good to know, excited for the new nolan film are we?

>>15644125
Are you kidding me? The only reason anyone watches Bergman is because he's apparently some genius director. Cinematography is obviously the biggest part in that credited fame to him.

In essence, his "plays" are meant to be filmed. The content is nothing, and he doesn't even pull the content off well. There is such a thing as achieving the best form of cinema through crafting a "play" made for filming, but when it becomes do dependent on the film it is hot garbage. I'm a bit confused what to say in this paragraph, but I explain most of it in the previous post.

>>15644133
Nolan films were literally on your list.

>>15644156
im not op

>>15643703
>ive watched a lot of movies and it's in my top 3. if i had to give an example of a movie that is just as good, probably there will be blood, once upon a time in america, manchester by the sea
Is this bait?

>>15644159
You're spiritually of his interior, you worthless venom: https://youtu.be/y4x6OiHe3AU?t=25

>>15644152
the only reason people watch him is because the genius directors, themselves thought he was genius, are you trying to be contrarian for the sake of it?

>>15643864
lolololoollolololololololololololololo

>>15644168
>see I'm not a psued I-I listen to CLASSICAL music
bwhahahahahahahahahahaha

>>15644044
you asked this before just watch itnretard

>>15644186
>implying I wasn't calling you a jew

>>15644212
No! I gather it's disappointing.

>>15644230
>No! I gather it's disappointing.
why ask then dumbass

>>15643986
Dekalog is better than any piece of literature ever written

>>15644108
>As I said, whenever film is in becoming of an achievement unique to its own form, that is through cinematography, it can only ever be a lower art, but is predominately merely entertainment. It's why whatever minuscule of value a normal film has, it's always dependent on the script.

Dig a little deeper. There may be more going on than you think. Read Mast on Hawks, pic related. If memory serves, chaps. 2-4 address the issue of meaning in film, and film vs. script.

>The apprehension and understanding of art that is fun and easy require not special learning but special sensitivity to complicated essences that have been translated into perfectly elegant, graceful, brilliant surfaces, and special care not to be fooled by those simple surfaces into believing the art is simple. They also require a certain immunity to the Puritanical suspicion that something fun cannot be very good for you.

>>15643943
As we all should. Get women out of film

>>15643676
this

>>15643864
>>15643866
kek

>>15642950
T. Never seen Barry Lyndon
https://youtu.be/Slkn1GhonV8

>>15643330
I have been watching movies for decades now, have even been taking notes religiously for the dozens and hundreds of movies i have watched for college and yet there is not a single one that even comes close to Tarkovskys Andrei Rublev. The catharsis of the bell maker is the pinnacle of filmmaking. Based.

>>15646892
I love that movie so much, but it almost ruined other films for me entirely.

>>15647673
It doesn't matter because your taste is dog shit and you're a pseudo-intellectual

>>15644005
I don't want to bother watching anything about lesbianism unless it's depicting in a negative light.

>>15643330
>>15642950
>>15646892
>>15647698
Stay on /r/movies you dilettante embarrassment

>>15646892
lol what the fuck is this goofy shit?

>>15647719
Post a better film but I know you won't

>>15647719
>your taste is dog-shit
Thats hurtful.

Is it actually good? /tv/ was complaining they found it boring so I didn't think twice about it

>>15643924
>>15643932
I know this is a troll but I still feel insulted

>>15646892
>dude look at how I tried to imitate a painting and still made it end up looking drab! I'm film making!
Kubrick is the epitome of soulless film and trying to make it up with "technicality".

>>15647753
Nostalghia

>>15647807
Wrong terrible movie

>>15647812
filtered

>>15647818
Every patrician I follow has it at 3-4 stars so you are objectively wrong.

>>15647825
>Every patrician I follow
Yeah, I am thinking he's a pseud subhuman incapable of forming his own opinion

>>15647847
No I have my own opinion but everyone else I know shares almost the same opinion so I'm saying you're the wrong one

>>15643924
That's a pretty solid list. Will watch some on ot although I have been avoiding them for years now

>>15647857
everyone else can suck my fucking cock, Nostalghia is the greatest film of all time.

>>15647911
ok weirdo

>>15647857
>I have my own opinion but everyone else I know shares almost the same opinion

watch The Elephant Man