/lit/ - Literature

>>15617474
Mathematically speaking there is still a chance.

>>15617474
I keep messaging girls on Tinder but never bothering to read their responses.

>>15617474
Stop this shit and talk to me, I'm not gonna bite: tot@national.shitposting.agency

>>15617474
im still hopelessly in luv with buttercunt
>WHY DO YOU BUILD ME UP, BUTTERCUNT BABY

>>15617617
Shit is down as always. Send me a message here if you want: nicohe6782@nsabdev.com

>>15617474

women are generally a malign influence on men, there are a lot of tradfags who would qualify that by saying that "modern" women are the problem, but it's a phenomenon that goes back literally thousands of years

in all but the most extreme patriarchies (saudi, for instance) marriage/attachment in whatever form to a women is essentially a bargain to devote x% of your time/life to satisfying the banal desires of somebody else. whether you're a hedonist or some intense spiritualist looking for enlightenment, a serious "love life" necessarily detracts from whatever your other goals in life are.

this was obviously the price of doing business when there was intense social pressure to get married, but such pressure arguably exists in the other direction now. by promoting the view that everybody can achieve fulfilment/self-actualisation, people who get married are essentially replicating the previous ties of attachment suited for a pre-modern society, whilst still holding the gay view that they don't have to give up anything in terms of career/self-worth for that attachment. hence the massive divorce rate, among other things I'm sure.

this is not a new thing. there are anecdotes from egyptian monks in the 3rd century talking about how they have to choose between a life of god and a wife/family; the latter would bind them into society, into the village community, thereby preventing the separation necessary to actually achieve the degree of ascesis that they desired.

>>15617679
have sex

>>15617683
>yeah babe reading can wait aha let's watch that netflix show you like and snuggle
>I'm gonna coooooooooooom

wow if only I knew that sex was the kind of reality-defining experience that should be prioritised above everything else in your life

I have though.

Because love has already given up on me.

I probably will. I have found a gf that is great in every way, except her history. I just feel physical pain when I imagine her with other men. It wasn't even that much, 5 by her account.
I just wish I don't accidentally get her pregnant and get stuck forever.

>>15617864
the realisation that this is basically an inescapable feeling was one of the worst I ever had in my process of maturing. pretty much the only place where this isn't going to be the case with women is in super strict religious groups, and they're probably fucked up in different ways

genuinely so depressing. there could be a dozen perfect girls out there for you, but virtually all of them have been getting regularly fucked since ~16, through school, university, and so on. it's one of the things that makes me genuinely want to kill myself, I've missed the chance to "be the first guy" and not have to worry about this shit.

just go with it if she makes you happy man. try not to get bitter and twisted, try not to let it fester bc it'll just end up coming out as aggression towards her in other ways, which will inevitably ruin what you have. or maybe that'll happen anyway, idk.

>>15617899
The only way I can cope with it is by checking out emotionally and accepting things for how they are, but what's the point of being in a relationship like that? She was my first too so it's even worse.

>try not to get bitter and twisted, try not to let it fester
it does sometimes though. I can't get it out of my mind and it ruins me for a day. I've even told her about it too, she gives me the usual female shit. "I can't change my past","my past makes me who I am","If I knew you would come along I would've saved myself". I makes me hate her when she says that. I want to break her heart and make the reasons clear.

I don't want to have to compromise. Sometimes I consider taking the normie route, getting a bunch of arm and neck tattoos, do drugs and have women throw themselves at me. Then become a good boy and settle with a tattooed wife.

>>15617474
i did it doesnt exist

>>15618034
you are an idiot

>>15617474
I have. I've been seeing escorts since I was 19. I get matches on tinder sometimes but I don't love myself in the slightest so I wouldn't expect anyone else to love me, nor would I really know what to do otherwise.

>>15618034
>>15617864
Like the other anon said, if she's worth something to you drop it forever. You don't want to keep bringing that crap up.
But if she brings them up or still texts them and crap get rid of her.

>>15617864
>5
>Not that much
I'm guessing she's in her early 20s, perhaps if she was 50 that's not that much.
1 or 2 tops by the time she marries and I'm being nice because we all commit mistakes.

>>15617474
I did years ago

>>15617864
>”5 by her account.”
>he doesn’t know
OHNONONONO

Bro’s it literarily happened today, am going on date this week. I was almost hopeless and it came out of the blue, do not give up anons.

>>15618366
We all go on dates, we just don’t follow them up.

>>15618384
>We all go on dates
No we don't

I gave up a long while ago but I think I may be experiencing it now, bros

>>15617474
I have
I now only fuck lonely middle aged women i work with

I think if I fell in love I would be fulfilled and happy...I've never been in love and I feel so empty

>>15618366
Good luck bud. I got a date with the girl of my dreams. No second date. I still live in bleak agony. I hope you accomplish what I couldn't.

im about to. im getting tired of falling in love with women who make an effort talk and flirt with me then a week later lose all interest in me. Its just too emotionally draining

Gave up after I had it and realized it's not that great. Basically you've got to give up a huge part of yourself, for the rest of your life, and in return chances are you're not getting someone who will have your back or stand up for you when times get tough. It's nice, but not really worth it unless you're 100% dedicated to settling down and becoming a normie. Even then there's no guarantee your wife won't get bored and cheat on you.

>>15617679 is spot on here. It's a big waste of time when you get down to it, doubly so in modern society. Not to mention with tinder and hook-up culture romance feels more like a practical joke than a worthwhile part of the human condition. Jump through these hoops, and maybe this woman will 'reward' you with bored missionary sex and you can just try to ignore the fact that if you had more muscles, a couple tattoos, and were half a foot taller she'd jump into bed with you without hesitation. It's a fun game for women, but I don't see what self respecting men get out of it.

>>15617864
>5 by her account.

>>15617679
This is such a shit take its not even worth saying anything else.

>>15617864
The more girls you meet, the less you’ll care. You’re suffering from an inferiority complex at the thought that she has more options than you. Don’t box yourself in. Sex is rather meaningless outside of the more major platonic connection you two can share which reinforces the act of sex.

>>15617474
Because I still love by current boyfriend and my friends
and specially my cats

>>15617679
accuratepilled

>>15617474
Mostly because I haven’t had enough time to find the love I want. It’s something that grows like a plant, but before you i even start the sapling you’ve got to understand the environment you’re growing in. It all takes time and effort, which in itself is rewarding, but you just know that once you’ve reached a satisfactory amount of knowing that you can proceed dutifully onto your next desire. The thing is I know that what I want is coming, and it also helps invigorate me to keep working. The moment I quit is the moment the dream ceases to be real. So, realistically, I’ve got about two options: I quit looking for love and throw away years of toiling work and practice, or I carry on to see my effort through; and I ain’t no fucking quitter, that’s for damn sure.

>>15619434
No please, enlighten us. Offer us a counterargument.

>>15618215
You're not being nice, you're being a retard

>>15617864
oh my sweet innocent child

>>15617864
>It wasn't even that much, 5 by her account

>>15617864
Anon, I will put my savings on the fact that she has fucked more than five guys.
>>15617899
> I've missed the chance to "be the first guy" and not have to worry about this shit.
Same anon. Kinda hurts ngl. At this point, if she gets a hint of you being less experienced than her, you're fucked.

>>15617864
>5 by her account
Women always, ALWAYS lie about their body count. To get something closer the real number you multiply the number by 10.

>>15617474

I gave up on love a long time ago
I simply have no desire for it any more
The sheer thought of imagining myself living a married life actually makes me physically cringe

I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

>>15617474
Don't know how it's /lit/-related but anyway.
I believe in love because I experienced it multipile times. Sometimes it was bad, sometimes it was wonderful, but all in all, I crave for love because it changes me drastically. Instead of being an apathetic fuck as I usually am, I turn into a person with almost a religious devotion to a certain female. And although I try to hide it and subdue this irrational craving, I do not feel like my usual self which is a refrechishing experience. In other words, I would like to experience love once again because it makes me lose my mind like they sing about in shitty pop songs. And it's mentally healthy, I believe, to sometimes lose your mind a little bit. I do understand that hardly any man or woman deserves any praise or worship whatsoever, sometimes I feel the desire to devote myself to someone other than me. I feel somehow content when the centre of my existence is shifted from my ego onto somebody else.

>>15620858
Kek, based copypasta fag

>>15620862
Unironically 90% true though

>>15620860
Read "The Metaphysics Of The Love Of The Sexes" by Schop.