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Rome fell once before, and now it falls again; but whereas the ancient Romans left behind coliseums and aqueducts—monuments of human greatness, impervious to the passage of time—we leave behind nothing worthwhile, except soulless modernist architecture and a desecrated planet. 1960s were the last gasp of the modern human-being, before his imminent extinction, before his replacement by cultureless, artless automotons, infected by parasitic materialism and obsessed with instant gratification, and the pathetic legacy he leaves behind, after he's driven himself to ruin. Total darkness on Earth, an eternal eclipse.

>> No.15600114
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reminder: he tried to prevent all this

>> No.15600128

>>15600107
don't forget that even after our planet dies, our legacy will be carried on by a car full of pop culture references designed by committee to appeal to reddit.

>> No.15600131

>>15600107
>>15600114
It's too sad for me bros. I dont know what to do anymore

>> No.15600133

>>15600114
No he didn't, his pathetic and weak dictatorship and its subsequent DEFEAT was the last nail in the coffin for any sort of traditionalism or conservatism, or indeed the preservation of the indigenous race, in Europe.

>> No.15600200
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>>15600107
You know you can go to school and learn architecture if this bothers you ideas man? I'm sure the rich people and organisations who own these buildings will love your soulless neo renaissance shit, you american slob.

>> No.15600212

>>15600107
There's nothing 'eternal' when it comes to history. I'm sure people must have felt it was the end, when the Younger Dryas event destroyed the ante-diluvian civilizations 11,600 years ago. They couldn't have imagined that thousands of years later, history would have restarted in Egypt and Sumer, but it did.

This is not to say that what's happening isn't tragic and worth being sad about. I'm just trying to put things in perspective.

>>15600114
>>15600133
To be fair, he did try to reverse the course of time, and although he failed, he can hardly be blamed for the current state of things. Traditionalism was already dead when he came to power.

>> No.15600262

>>15600200
Architecture is diversity to the max. Most of them hate white man classicism, I've met many of these envious "architects" and you sound like one of them.

>> No.15600272

>>15600107
Scruton talks about this although I haven't read him yet.

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>>15600262
>Architecture is diversity to the max. Most of them hate white man classicism, I've met many of these envious "architects" and you sound like one of them.

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>>15600107
This is one of the only Western monuments that will last into the deep future, the cliff upon which the Amerilels carved their leaders' faces.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=891qV-7Y42w

>> No.15600325

>>15600107
the Colosseum and aqueducts were the soulless modernist architecture of their day though

>> No.15600395

Imagine gate keeping an art form you dont even participate in yourself

>> No.15600400

>>15600287
Mount Rushmore is really weird if you think about it. Like, imagine for some reason you never learned about it when you were a kid, and then suddenly, in your maturity, you were told about it. Wouldn't it be crazy? There are so few other things like it. It just feels like it should be from some religious monument from some ancient kingdom, but it's actually modern. Like, they had planes and cars and movies, and meanwhile in the wilderness they're making a massive, mountain-sized sculpture of their leaders. Crazy. People should do more things like that nowadays.

>> No.15600403

>>15600400
>it should be from some religious monument from some ancient kingdom

it was made by /his/ larpers

>> No.15600456

>>15600400
I agree it's nuts. And it's carved from granite, that shit will last forever.

Also the Great Pyramids of the Yukon are underway, don't worry.

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Roma, the whore city par excellence. Upon the surface of this painting is seen a vallient and masculine Victor, imposing and dashing of conquest every nation within it's reach; This being a false mirage, a drawing of a drawing; untruth derived and sifted from a truth. The truth of Rome was that in conquering it hoped to become that enemy which it conquered. Hoping to accept into it's bosom the gods and religion it had conquered. Perhaps believing it to be the only able heir of the superstitious people limited by their own isolated culture. Perhaps in Romes acquisition of its enemies and their cultic gods then nation would become more profitable and powerful then before. Adding more men to their market and Satysifying such foreignors by commodify their gods into the galley of waxed and lifeless figures, ; a chaotic cultural sphere as the demanded result of a mercantile boon of melted down golem like nation. Perhaps then Rome could have become as universal as it's market.

Like unto a women trapping and consuming even the undesirables, choosing the most pitiful and defeated men; defeated men trapped and compressed between the property of her tightened and populated thighs. Anything to add another delight to a passing and aging figure. Inclusively these foreign gods and foreign peoples crowd abouts the unlively and weakening hearth of rome; the fire dimming with each foreign addition. Those gentes and their tradition, patriarchic bearers of light, smoldering into a smoke underneath the feet of roving near east bands. Merchants and exiles crowding around the whore who brought abouts the cultural smothering of her own homeland; crowding into her fertile and populated abode, as a mutual dependence of trading traitors, her own imported perverse goods. Absorbed by and consumed by her, being given a chance to thrive amongst her empire. Enlivened by the past of high achievements and now waning in her effort to bound back to those heights by any means necessary, even the most perverse.

This bosom of foreign enticement only weakens and slackens the bond of her own home and of her own gods. The gods of Rome being from the beginning a amalgonation of many peoples, a sacrifical reciprocity to ensure the benefits of larger union. From the beginning the heights of self-denial and consuming influence of foreign interest added much to this whores power, yet in the end it destroyed all that she had been born of.

>> No.15600478

>>15600400
Its not really. American culture was unlike classical European culture in that they saw themselves as one big circle of compatriots, which is why the US was able to sustain a democracy in a time when no country in Europe could. Americans liked calling their presidents a personal friendly name like Ted and Abe. The average American saw his president almost as an extension of himself. It's not odd to me at least that they almost deify their leaders. You wouldn't see that in Europe historically but America was a new kind of nation. Ofc a lot of that isn't true anymore in the 21st century.

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>>15600478
True.

>> No.15600502

>>15600282
Posting your own picture to refute yourself huh.

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>>15600107
>the ancient Romans left behind coliseums and aqueducts
>we leave behind nothing worthwhile, except soulless modernist architecture and a desecrated planet.
What do you call this shit you stupid nigger?

>> No.15600525

>>15600107
>modernist architecture only appeared after 1960
why do you pseuds even bother coming here

>> No.15600587

>>15600262
Without googling it name three architects that aren't white.

>>15600107
OP you mention the 1960s as some sort of cultural Shangri-La, but you fail to know that "modernist" architecture is from the 20s...if you mean contemporary architecture, then yeah, its ephemeral and largely shit. However, our dams, pipelines, stadiums, and large manufacturing centers would be here after we fall.

>> No.15600612

>>15600107
>we leave behind nothing worthwhile, except soulless modernist architecture and a desecrated planet
There's that stuff on the moon.

>> No.15600637

For every post modernist building you focus on there are probably a million that arent in that style

>> No.15600643

>>15600587
Oscar Niemayar
Gyo Obata
Luis Barragan

>> No.15600658

>>15600587
You have problems with reading comprehension, I never called 60s some sort of cultural Shangri-La, quite the opposite. I wrote that it was "the last gasp of the modern human-being, before his imminent extinction" so I meant that things were already going wrong even before 60s but they represent the last gasp of authenticity.

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>>15600107
>>15600114
>>15600131
Who gives a shit? How can you in good conscious mourn for people who destroys themselves? Everything is our fault, and the end is all too welcome.

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>>15600107
A.G Cooks dad was the one who designed that building

>> No.15600684

>>15600675
That picture was made by someone that posts "x can't meme" shit.

>> No.15600685

>>15600107
>>15600114
>>15600128
>>15600131
>>15600133
>>15600200
>>15600212
>>15600262
>>15600282
>>15600287
>>15600325
>>15600395
>>15600400
>>15600403
>>15600456
>>15600458
>>15600478
>>15600496
>>15600502
>>15600518
>>15600525
>>15600587
>>15600612
>>15600637
>>15600643
>>15600658
Reading might be difficult for some people, and thinking even more so
But why do you all keep thinking /lit/ your personal toilet?
Fuck off back to pol with this shit

>> No.15600701

>>15600658
post some of your art

>> No.15600712

>>15600685
You're annoyed nobody noticed your Scruton post.

>> No.15600717

>>15600518
Boring, design that has been done a thousand times over. Made for utilitarian purposes

>> No.15600754

>>15600717
Yeah, because Roman amphitheaters totally didn't all look the same.

https://www.swedishnomad.com/wp-content/images/2019/10/kanda-romerska-amfiteatrar-1.jpg

>> No.15600791

>>15600754
Fuck off commie

>> No.15600799

>>15600754
Old: Good
New: Bad

>> No.15600810

>>15600587

I went to an inner city architecture college you nigger.
All the midpositions and cad/revit designers of these shitty high-rises and inner city modern art dump designs are managed by mulattos and blacks, lots of women to.
Of course your talking about famous architects who are usually European. But the vast majority building these profit motive plaster beamed blocks are the mulatto underclass.

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Read Scruton

>> No.15600840

>>15600643
Ok, well done.

>>15600658
Precisely what I said, thanks. What exactly is your point in the OP? How were the 70s any different than the 60s? Don't you think the slave labor in areas such as Doha, Abu Dahbi, and Dubai have built soulful cultured monuments to great civilizations? Don't you think the Camp Nou will be around for centuries? Three Gorges Dam? Sardar Patel's staute? The Gasun pipeline in Brazil? Trans Siberian Railway?

>> No.15600872

>>15600685
>Ah bloo-bloo

>> No.15600882

>>15600840
>Ok, well done.
Thanks man.

>> No.15601021

>>15600587
zaha hadid
oscar niemeyer
tadao ando

>> No.15601031

>>15600643
>>15601021
>oscar niemeyer
Lotta love for Oscar Niemeyer

>> No.15601040

>>15601031
didnt see the other anon had also named him.
but i do like some niemeyer occasionally

>> No.15601149

>>15600675
I dont mourn the fools, I'm mainly just pissed because I have to live amongst them. I hate this place. None of this is my fault, i have never endorsed anything expect things that would fight against the collapse.

>> No.15601186

>>15601021
Nice, good picks. Faith restored.