/lit/ - Literature

>>15542002
All religion and philosophy before Marx (pbuh) had one role: to keep the plebs in line

>>15542002
He isn’t the archetypal Asian man is genghis khan

While western philosophy tries to understand and take advantage of reality, eastern philosophy takes it in the ass and pretends to enjoy it.

Have you even read the Analects?

>>15542679
You can't possible believe this.

>>15542002
For some reason in China the alternative to rigid stability results in millions of people dead

>>15542104
Hume and Spinoza were also pretty damn freedompilled.

>>15542002
Asians are an extremely slave like people who see nothing wrong with working 18 hours a day no overtime until they literally die from exhaustion.

>>15542730
I believe it

>>15542002
Some people are only good as slaves

>>15542002
Confucius is the single reason East Asia has been order of magnitudes more stable than any other region
China is a polshitters wet dream

>>15543128
That's poverty for you, nothing to do with race

>>15543262
>Some people are only good as slaves

>>15542730
It's a valid take, although a little stretched.

I would say
>Asian philosopher takes it in the ass
>And pretends it was meant to be

Or

>Takes it in the nostril
>And pretends he meant it to be.

t. centipede chink, fight me

>>15543128
There's nothing wrong, just supply and demand.

For those who IRL slavecuck for 18 hours a day, they have no choice. It's that or the family starves.

Have a heart, fag. Not everybody gets to worry about too much carbs.

we freed our slaves and fucking look at what happened
maybe change really is bad

>>15543379
t. worked in a workshop with imported chink riveters who work like dogs for 300$ spending money, just so they can get certified for better employment back home.

>>15542002
Sweat shops in China are still a thing. They should accept working 15 hours a day for a bowl of rice.

>>15543318
>>15543379
Explain South Korea, Japan, etc. then. Some of the richest countries in the world, yet they choose to kill themselves with work even when it's been proven to be less efficient.

>>15543423
They're sincere.

>>15543423
The country is rich, sure.

The wage slaves individually are struggling because the cost of living is astronomical. They have starbucks prices on everything.

It's not a choice; jap and kor have cram schools. That's how fierce competion is. Same with their job market.

Ever wonder how come economic migrants dont go to jap or kor at the rate that they do to the US, UK and Uro? I'm not talking laborers and maids and language teachers; i'm talking about skilled workers and professionals. Here's the obvious answer: outsiders cannot match the work ethic these places demand.

That simple.

t. Actual chink

>>15543423
Democracy is a proven shitshow, but it's still the most workable and acceptable shitshow.

Not everyone is fortunate enough to be born some flavor of Scandi.

>>15543423
Because they’re collectivist, hence why those suicidal Nips live in a country where 99% are Nips and you live in one where the government is deliberately trying to breed you out of existence.

>>15543305
Famine, genocide, revolt, war, massacre = stable

got it

>>15543606
Yes. China has existed since before the Homeric Era and every single western empire has been faded out of history. The Japanese have also outlasted the Romans. China has even survived Communism.

>>15543634
Imagine thinking that Modern China is even remotely the same as Ancient China. In that case, Egypt predates China and will outlived it.

>>15543508
>It's not a choice
It can be hard for any individual to rise above, but then that describes most cultures doesn't it? As a collective they're slaving away as if they were still destitute although the situation no longer demands it.

>>15543662
Wrong. Not an ounce of ancient Egyptian culture can be found in modern Egyptian culture. The same cannot be said of China.

>>15543634
>China survived communism
It didnt. The loss of irreplaceable cultural wealth means all we have left are infinite remakes of Sanguo generously interspaced with state- backed serials about sino-jap wars shilling patriotism. /Pol/ anons slurring us as soulless bugmen are at least 40% on target: we have no souls because the CatAutomatic ripped it out.

Also, Taiwan has better /tv/.

>>15543679
Wrong. What China has are parodies of ancient culture. Whatever claim they had to their past was killed by Mao. Compare to Pagan larger in Europe.

>>15543662
Anon, stop trying to talk about a subject you don’t know. China has existed in its varying forms uninterrupted and autonomous since the Shang dynasty. If you want talk about capital C China, then fine, then the Zhou or Qin, but then they’re still the oldest uninterrupted state. Egypt wasn’t a country or an independent state during almost 2 thousand years under Greece, Rome and then the Ottomans, and then they were colonized by the British.

>>15543678
Depends on your perspective of the situation.

We tend to be foreward thinking and pessimistic: tomorrow might be a world of shit. Chink countries never really had prolonged periods of peace and several renaissances, so we're not complacent that way.

Make hay while the sun hasnt vanished etc...

>>15543679
>>15543682
Culture is a pointless argument. Culture is transient and fluid and saying whether or not a country retains jts ancient culture is subjective depending on which anthropologist you ask, but objectively speaking China has been an autonomous nation for almost 3 thousand years.

>>15543678
>Doesnt it?

I can be a trashman in australia and pick up 15-20$ an hour. Working here, i'm getting 6-8$.

Sure
>It describes most cultures
Just some places more than others.

Also, anywhere not the Congo.

>>15543704
Your definition of uninterrupted is literally true of almost any people. Shit. Aboriginal Australia existed longer "uninterrupted." China has been controlled by foreign dynasties and powers the same as any other. Egypt (arguable) and Greece have as many ties to their past as does Modern China.

>>15543750
>China has been controlled by foreign dynasties and powers the same as any other.
No it didnt. The Mongols never controlled China, the Europeans couldn’t colonized it but imposed enclaves. The Japanese did for like almost a decade sure, but that’s a blip no different than say Nazi occupation of France during WW2. The Ancient Egyptians are civilization completely different from modenr day Egyptians, not only culturally, but ethnically and historically. They are not comparable. Defining China only to its modern expansion would be like defining the Roman Empire to the city alone. Even if Rome was 1/3rd the size in 5BC than it was in 2BC, it’s still the same entity. China begins either with the Shang or Zhou depending.

>>1554378
>the mongols never controlled china
What is Yuen Dynasty

>>15543789https://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/china-history/the-yuan-dynasty.htm#:~:text=The%20Yuan%20Dynasty%20(1279%E2%80%931368)%20was%20China's%20first%20foreign,touch%20with%20its%20Mongol%20roots.

>>15543789
>The Mongols never controlled China
lmao

>>15543714
Sure, and I understand that real poverty is not a distant memory in the minds of many koreans. The point was simply that they don't have to work like slaves because of poverty anymore. They could chill a bit more. I'm not sure what could bring about this change though, since we're talking about a large attitudinal shift.

>>15542002
Bro how did you get that from Kung Fuzi?

>>15543789
>The Mongols never controlled China
Now that's I call historical revisionism. Also the Qing? Discussing history with chinks and chinkaboos is useless, I've found. They'll appeal to a non-existent 4000 years of history, say your views are eurocentric, and shut down mentally. I have heard it a thousand times.

>>15543634
Most of chinese history is fake mythological bullshit but the people are too prideful to admit this.
Its like if the British still clung to the idea that they descend from Trojans.

>>15542659
This. Based Genghis.

>>15543117
>>15542104
bourgeois philosophy is just hedonism disguised as altruism

>>15543679
>The same cannot be said of China
The Chinese have been busy eradicating any trace of actual Chinese culture for more than a century now, to replace it with Western
If they had gone the way of Nationalist dictatorship like Japan, they wouldn't be trying to replace all their lost cultural artifacts with cheap knock-offs now
>>15543606
Those things happened everywhere. The Roman empire lasted some 400 years before it collapsed into a fragmented chaotic mess in constant turmoil over the next two Millennia.
In contrast, China has a much greater cultural unification, and the periods of unified empire has far outweighed periods of fragmentation

>>15543128
Stop believing in meme, please.
Viet here, we are influenced by Confucianism as much as the Japs or Koreans but we're lazy as fuck. The same can be said about Singapore.
The things is Koreans and Japanese had to build their country from ashes after WW2, in order to do that, they work like a bitch everyday.
Confucianism doesn't force people to work hard, just look at the Tang Dynasty.

>>15543899
The Tang was the one dynasty primarily dominated by taoism

>>15542002
What are you talking about? Both the communists and people like Fukuzawa Yukichi hate Confucius alot. But no matter how hard they try, his ideas won't disappeare because they are so deep rooted East Asian culture

>>15543886
Wow, I never thought about it like this. Its like how in hollywood movies one American man can save the world but in reality it is actually China that saves the world.

>>15543974
Get a brain

>>15543987
China number 1

>>15543912
Nah it's Confucianism > Buddhism > Taoism. Buddhism was influenced by both Confucianism and Taoism

>>15542002
Lao Tzu > Confucious

>>15544196
This

>>15543828
How long is chinese history then?

>>15544533
About 70

>[11:16] Zi Gong asked who was the most worthy between Shih and Shang. The Master said, “Shih goes too far, Shang does not go far enough.”

>“Then is Shih superior?”

>The Master said, “Going too far is the same as not going far enough.”

>>15543886
It is not the replacement of culture with a western one but rather the removal of culture itself. Following the Chinese communist revolution, Mao Zedong pursued Marxist Communism (but with a chinese twist) and attempted to destroy all religion and culture in order to create a classless and unified society.

>>15544554
You dont think they are any way heirs to a lineage of cultural and political history? Why would it change in such extreme, drastic way after the communist takeover? Much of the political system and provincial governance remained intact and has done so for a long time

>>15543679
Where I live some Roman laws are still in effect, we have many buildings form classical antiquity standing strong, some customs still there.
that's incomparably more continuity to old times than china, especially after the cultural revolution.
I'm not even saying it as a brag. Whether long term historical continuity is a good thing or not doesn't even enter the question (it's a good thing though), modern Chinese larping their old ways is cringe.

>>15542679
It's the exact opposite, European is 100% a product of Catholicism, Protestantism and life denial

>>15542002
>Why is this guy the archetypal eastern wise man?
Because he is archetypally Eastern.

>>15543721
China has been an autonomous nations for 70 years at most

>>15543392
It's more of a negro problem than anything related to slavery.

>>15543899
eat shit u commie fuck

>>15544196
Based ox man.

>>15542002
Your garbage genetics will oppress you way more than a rigid eastern society ever will

If anything it’s the lit posting losers who need that kind of society the most, but you’re too proud to admit it