/lit/ - Literature

is going into debt while a marxist professor brainwashes you /lit/?

>>15505685
No

self-studying is lit

No, even brainwashing to a certain extent and boring af

>>15505693
>>15505698
>>15505722
Ok I've cancelled plans on attending what do i do now

>>15505685
these people are mongs who couldn't get into or couldn't afford a decent school. yes university is /lit/, don't fall for the STEM meme. a liberal arts education will teach you to read on a deeper level than most people here will ever reach

>>15505733
dance in public

>>15505741
a "liberal arts education" will put you out on the street.

>>15505778
Someone has to drive taxis or uber

>>15505778
just get a scholarship lol

>>15505685
I dropped out of university after two semesters, even though I had a very good scholarship and lots of financial aid lined up, since my family is poor. Ideally, it would be very /lit/, but university was not what I thought it would be like from reading about the university lives of various philosophers.
On my first day, one of my professors asked everyone to write down their preferred pronouns on an index card. I was very surprised, because I thought an Alabama university would be free of PC nonsense, but apparently not. Aside from math classes, which are another extreme in that they are the drabbest thing imaginable, all of my classes consisted of some silly lectures and watching instructional YouTube videos, like Crash Course, after which we would get into groups and do some dumb teambuilding exercise that was barely related to anything.
If you want to go, then go, but it's not gonna benefit you much. You're probably not going to be listening to groundbreaking lectures on philosophy and debating Kant with your fellow students.

>>15505685
Not anymore.

>>15505813
i guess this is bait. Fucking mutt university is a scam and Alabama on top of it.

University is for trannies and their enablers now. If you get a good education from it it's only because you wanted it bad enough to make it happen on your own. Anyone who brags about the tranny training warehouse they went to at this point is a retard who comes from money.

>>15505741
This guy's a twink who sucks tranny cock.

>>15505685
Absolutely not. School is not a place for intelligent people.

itt: people justfying why they didn't uni

>>15505733
trade school
plumbers earn way more than English grads.

>>15505895
t. buyer's remorse

i like how Americans are doing Amazon reviews in here. Imagine paying for higher education and not getting NEET bucks for it.

Depends on what you go for.
All these retards are saying it’s a waste of money but good luck trying to get a job in any lit related job without a degree regardless if it helped you or not

>>15505914
And that's a good thing!

>>15505685
uni is a brainwashing institution. My brother went to uni and then he started talking about "muh hurt principle."

no
I'm forced to spend endless hours on bullshit projects which achieve nothing yet show my capacity to persevere in subservience and endure humiliation when I could be reading a fucking book on what I nominally should be studying

>>15505693
>going into debt
*puts on annoying european accent*
Imagine paying for university

Op here a lot of you guys sound like Chris mccandless larpers please give legitimate responses please

>>15505983
imagine being forced to read "racism is bad: the book" a dozen times

>>15506000
Wat

>>15505986
Oddly accurate take lol

>>15505733
Start a small business, accumulate precious metals, buy a house in a majority white, republican neighbourhood, find a loyal waifu, buy lots of guns and raise 20 guard dogs that are trade to attack blacks on sight ( do this so if blacks attack you have a method to kill them without getting in trouble with the law) and then spend your free time raising a family and reading whatever literature you fancy.

>>15505685
I'd agree with most of the anons, it's not necessary if you have the instruments to be self taught. Although for many jobs nowadays a degree is necessary, or at least very helpful. You don't need a literature degree to write a book, but you need a degree to teach

>>15506082
What step are you on?

I dropped out, but it seems like it's mostly a place where you pay an extraordinary amount of money to then be sold extraordinarily expensive books in sales lectures and seminars. If you want to learn about your chosen field you'll be doing it outside of the university anyway.

>>15506000
imagine not knowing that radical PC is an American concept. American race consciousness was carried over in recent years, even if it makes no sense here. You fucks started out your freedom project by forming class structures with a colour code and now pretend that it isn't irreversibly ingrained into your society.

Based thread

>>15505693
I attended a /lit/ university only to get kicked out in the Spring of my freshmen year.
I went home, got a job, went to a local state college, got a degree in CS and Math and now plug in printers for a living which allows me several hours of uninterrupted time to do whatever the fuck I want including read books.

>>15505685
Yeah, having a MFA is must if you wanna make it in the contemporary literary scene.

>>15505722
Checked

>>15505986
Depends where you at.
I'm studying for music professor, most of my classes are fine and let me have time to read and do other stuff.
And when graduating, I can pick a job either teaching or researching, plus study something else.
Thank God uni is free here :)

Become a hermit my friend

Yeah, going for a psych degree.

>>15505813
So you'd rather be a whingy little bitch and quit instead of taking this opportunity for what it is, an deadass easy degree.

>>15508208
You still have to pay a shit ton of money back even with financial aid/scholarships.
I dropped out of a top 20 university after my freshmen year and am still paying on that loan

>>15508531
>still paying on that loan
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>>15508531
there are no top 20 universities in Alabama, anon, unless you're talking about top 20 in football LMFAO. quit larping.

>>15508543
like everything else in our shitty country, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Really depends on the school you go to, and what for

>>15508562
I'm not him, retard

>>15507481
You can't research music lol.
>>15508165
Psych is based but has too many die-hard liberals ruining the field. Psych is also taken as seriously as a medical profession, the fuck.

>>15505899
Fuck trades too
I used to weld, all my bosses were forced into office work cause blue collar work destroyed their bodies

yes

>>15510107
>Psych is based but has too many die-hard liberals ruining the field. Psych is also taken as seriously as a medical profession, the fuck.
Well I'm going in with a few interests, one of which is to help those on the autism spectrum; another is that I've taken an interest in human-environment interactions and would like to get involved focus testing and behavioral analytics; a tertiary interest is in watchdog groups that study the movement of radical collectives and their culture; finally, I'm concerned with social psych/epistemology and how people interact/communicate with things and where breakdowns in those interactions originate from. Hopefully I won't run into too many ideological distractions, but who knows.

>>15510107
you can, it's called ethnomusicology :)
plus anything that mixes music with other discipline (music's semiotic, psychology, sociology, etc).

>>15505693
>paying for university
ultimate kek
imagine living in a opressing military country, giving your life for private companies and also paying for education and health

usa is the country for cucks, have fun with your freedom to be a nice docile capitalism defender for the big fat company and go in dept for breathing in the next century

>>15506000
>says the anon that never step a foot in a university

>>15505685
Yeah. It taught me how to read and write well but I was a foreign language major, which was free from modern idiocy.

>>15505685
>pic
Piranesi was BASED

>>15510107
Read Musicophilia by Oliver Sacks

>>15505846
>If you get a good education from it it's only because you wanted it bad enough to make it happen on your own

This.

The only valuable thing that I got out of college was access to the library and ILL.

>>15505685
No, but dropping out is.

The way you guys talk about university makes me wonder if you guys have ever studied in one.

>>15510535
Right, there's so much animosity towards it, yet very little nuance.

>>15505685
In the past, sure

>>15510535
>>15510553
6 months ago I could have dug up some of my Northwestern University propaganda but I conveniently trashed it when I bought a house recently.
I still have my state college degree though

So to the people who didn't hold to uni, what do you do for a living? Are you all just NEETS? Getting an actual career is almost impossible without checking off the bachelors tickbox

Go to St. John's College

>>15510535
Because most unis actually teach out of proprietary textbooks designed to fail the least amount of kids. It's disgusting.

>>15506082
wow seems easy enough, thanks!

>>15510962
Why they don't even give out real degrees

UK university has been a lot of pozzed out leftie shit so far. Loads of emails about 'decolonising' the western canon and the like; it's annoying but I'm planning to teach Eng abroad when I'm done so I just put up with it. The 'loan' you take for Brotish uni isn't functionally a loan so you don't get debt trapped thankfully

>>15506082
Napoleon?

>>15511146
Each student graduates technically graduates with two degrees according to the sum of credits: one in the history of math and science; and another in philosophy.

>>15505685
In this day and age it's only good if you use it as a means to an end for a profitable career.

>>15505983
>>15510365
Taxpayers thinking shit is free lmao

>>15505813
> I thought University would be like it was as discussed by Philosophers
> Alabama

lmaoooooo cope cope cope

>>15512941
do people go bankrupt from taxes

University is a good backdrop for a good individual life if you're intelligent and have agency and have pragmatic goals/and or talent. If you take it too seriously and have no life besides resentiment, you'll end up as one of these >>15505693 people who end up warning people about a developmental experience that they never had.

>>15513232
>University is a good backdrop for a good individual life if you're intelligent and have agency and have pragmatic goals/and or talent
If you are intelligent and have talent you could be an autodidact, which will get you further and make you happier.
Stop trying to defend university, there's nothing good about it except the library. If you can LIVE without it, don't bother, it'll weigh you down
t. geography student (in my free time I study philology)

>>15513484
The credentials matter more. Autodidactism if taken seriously only works in certain professions i.e journalism, writing, some forms of programming etc but would be expedited by most decent university curriculums WHILE being given better opportunities.

>>15510933
They're all just polcel failures.

>>15512941
You pay taxes too, but your taxes are only applied to invanding other countries and keeping you guys docile through force. You pay and gets nothing back except the thick veiny dick of big companies. Your government work only as a way of guaranteing and validating a speech of fake freedom and fake democracy "of the people" but it's pure cuckoldry. A government that serves only for the trillionaires and you poor people think you're done with a John Green's mower and a gun while paying for your own hangman.
Your government is a mere theatre for the folk.
What's the point of having your government then? It serves for nothing except fucking you guys even more inside "The Constitution"

>>15505983

>>15513998
I'm a Slav, our cost of living is low

>>15506082
Too individualist, anon. Don't forget to take part in your local church community activities.

>>15513998
>imagine a free university without support programs to pay to the poor student so he can study and live 100% for free
They never learn...
Where's the housing support? Where's the feeding support? Where's the transport support? Where's the stay-in-uni support? Sweds need to claim their rights

No. Do you know what is /lit/? Not attending to university, sticking to low-level jobs that you hate and spending your free time gaming and browsing 4chan. After doing this for a few years, you turn into a bitter, resentful faggot that is profoundly unhappy with how his life stagnated. Then you start coping by making posts on /lit/ about how you think higher education is futile, how universities are crowded with leftists, how you can learn everything online, and telling other people they don't need university for anything. Then you also start posting threads asking for literature that will make you not kill yourself. Now that, my friend, is /lit/.

>>15514052
/thread

>>15514052
You sound like a faggot professor who thinks they’re superior to everyone else because of all the boring papers they write and read. Of course, you’ll never consciously admit you think you’re superior to everyone else because of your credentials and your education, you’ll just sort of hedge around it and imply it. And if anyone points it out to you, you’ll deny it or get uncomfortable, and try to turn it around on the person accusing you. No?

>>15505722
checked and
/thread

>>15505685
ye I love the uni experience and can-t wait until I get back to it next year

>>15505693
COMMULISTS ARE AT IT AGAIN

>>15505741
Get a stem degree for employment purposes while taking as many humanities classes as possible. Your major is just about 50% of coursework at American unis at least

>>15514052
kek literally this, the most part here are claiming unis are bad and evil because they're trying excessively to cope and present themselves as higher something for not attending to uni when they easily can
this thread is just a huge cope for midwit first-worlders wh*tebois
they think uni has no value because they never attended to one nor even know what happens there
i'm not a fan of the uni, too boxy for me, but it's indeed a big source of knowledge and creation of knowledge

>>15517069
>Get a stem degree for employment purposes
Hell no, nobody is safe from unemployment, sir. You'll just waste your time in shit that you hate and realise years after that you wasted your youth

It depends on your goals e.g. if you have a career in mind look at postings to see if they require a degree

Law and MD are the only /lit/ choices

>>15512941
You don't have to pay taxes if you are under a certain income threshold in my country.

depends what uni

>>15505741
imagine going 100k in debt to learn how to read
OH NO NO NO
Do brainlets really?

>>15505685
its closest thing to a symposium, if you do humanities.

Alright /lit/, let's be real; reading is boring. Or, it can be, if you do it by yourself... what you need is a book club. A big brained think tank, a study support, whatever you call it. But you and your brain need it. Why? Because just like any analytical process, reading is best done from multiple angles. You don't just want your mind to be the only reflection for the material; you want many points of view. This can help avoid the pitfalls of echo chamber and also make things, as mentioned before, interesting. A book club turns the driest book into a interesting read when you can get multiple people to bounce the ideas off of and get a new, fresh perspective.

So, that's why YOU should be joining our server /sig/. Self Improvement General. And nothing speaks to self improvement more than opening the mind and expanding both your knowledge and your imagination. We currently ARE DOING A BOOKCLUB, and our current book is Aldous Huxley's "Brave new world", a look at a dystopian future and a classical think piece. We take readers at all levels, there is something for the experts or the newbies, and maybe if you have read this book before, you can get a fresh perspective. Or just wait till we start our next book, it is sure to be an interesting one whatever it is.

Take the /sig/ pill and read more. Join up fast, the jannies are coming!

https://discord.gg/EptsGSq