/lit/ - Literature

>>15503833
Ridiculous, you're just a cat.

Me too, anon. French is /lit/ and not that hard considering by native language.

>>15503833
French is cute, wanna learn it someday too
I'm currently trying to learn mandarin but I'm not sure if progress is being made

>>15503833
Oui.

>>15503833
>I should...
>I have to...
>One day I will...
>I'm going to...
>I want to...
>I just started...
If you use any of these phrases regularly you're never going to make it.

>>15503923
Enlighten us, anon. Which phrase starters are the best?

>>15503930
>I'm doing it
>I've done it

>>15503833
The literature is good.
>>15503845
Non, un chat.

>>15503833
You should pick up Carl from the airport, OP

>>15503833
I'm currently learning french, and after a couple months of immersion and using some language apps, I am able to somewhat follow along Houellebecq-level prose (I am reading Lanzarote right now). Those of you who have learned a language in the span of a year max, how fast am I going to improve from this point on in terms of understanding the language ? I just feel like I have progressed pretty fast but I am afraid of hitting a plateau

>>15504143
You are doing good, I was progressing in a decent level but messed everything up when I quit smoking. I managed to quit smoking now I'm at it again. So fuck me rgiht?

>>15504143
Keep reading and create those wrinkles in your brain, anon. I only needed a year of high school french to begin with their literature and philosophy although I cheated with English translations on the side
After a while, the training wheels come off.

>>15504143
>couple months of immersion
how do you do this? move to france?

>>15503833
French is a pain to learn. the grammar rules are endless.

>>15504149
I picked up smoking a couple of months ago, and I'm honestly pleased with my decision. Incorporating these little needs and desires, which I can easily fulfill, into my daily life, I have been able to temper my sexual frustration and all the other major areas of my life where my needs are not met with the appropriate fulfillment.

>>15503833
cest plus facile

>>15504169
No, I've never even been to a Francophone country. I just consume French content in the internet, read articles and recently also picked up some novels, and I have also been watching French TV channels that are in my cable network (but I wouldn't recommend watching too much French tv, since basically every tv drama series is filled with interracial sex/white man cuckold plots).

If I move to Canada (Quebec) and learn their French, will real frogs laugh at my accent?

>>15504222
how much did you study before you started doing this? like being able to watch a french show

>>15504169
Not him but i watched alot of tv shows like Kaamelott and rohmer films, used radio garden to listen to french radio every morning on way to work then do about 300 anki cards, then read later in the evening some books in basic french authors like Camus Houellebecq

>>15504194
Quit while you still can, not worth at all. Messed up my life in many ways, and I don't even have erectile dysfunction, yet.

>>15504242
imagine the smell

>>15504248
like heaven

>>15504222
>basically every tv drama series is filled with interracial sex/white man cuckold plots
based

>>15504239
You just learn along the way if you pay attention. That's how I learned English, not in the class room, but from movies and the internet. I've also used this app Busu with which I acquired all the basic grammar rules and expressions

>>15504245
How did smoking mess up your life?

>>15504143
mind sharing what apps/resources?

J'apprend la langue se. Je ne suis pas parle tres bein, mais je pense c'est... I can't think of the word for fun. Anyone have good French TV to watch?

>>15504312
Mostly I have just consumed as much authentic content as I can, but the apps I've used that have been useful are LingQ and Busuu.

Spanish anon here. French language is very similar to mine, what are some good sources to learn it besides Duolingo? I know for instance that frogs have plenty of weebs so watching anime with subs could be another option.

>>15504301
When I had to do things for a long period of time and couldn't concentrate because I couldn't smoke. I used to study while smoking too, this messed me up big time too. You can't smoke indoors nowadays.

>>15504331
If you have an opportunity to watch TV5Monde in your TV I'd recommend that. There are some interesting documentaries there and a lot of cultural content around the clock. Tv5monde also has french subs available for most of their content which are very useful especially in the beginning

>>15504343
Which did you prefer and did you use a computer or phone?

>>15504354
Search something like "anime name" + VOSFR
it is Japanese voice and French subs. The acronym stands for voice originale sous titre français

>>15504362
I use computer mostly, and if I had to pick one I'd say go with LingQ.

Can any french anons tell me if they know whether cats meow differently in France? Do cats have a french accent?

>>15504354
Duolingo is not a good source my dude

le français est une langue de merde, je suis content de ne pas le parler

>>15504401
miaou

>>15504401
Marcel le Caide. Facile sur le mascara

>>15503845

A "sophisticated cat"

>>15504409
i think its pretty good for beginners anon. I've been doing it for around 8 months, 15 minutes a day ad have learnt a lot and am able to read and understand pretty well. Speaking still very slow.

>>15504409
I know it's a meme but it works when you get at the last levels of any language.

>>15504688
>>15504675
Of course it works to some degree but you there are way more effective tools disposable

>>15503833

Learn spanish instead. It's basically the same thing but less annoying, and you'll come out the other side understanding both.

I should pick German back up again, maybe after this semester

>>15504551
a sophisticat if you will

>>15503937
I... I've DONE IT! I'VE LEARNED FRENCH TODAY. Thanks anon.

>>15504716
can you name some? preferably free or cheap? keen to check them out

>>15504177
>Grammar rules
Just learn it by listening and speaking lmao don't learn any rules

>>15503833
cest facile mon anon

>>15504331
>Je ne suis pas parle tres bein, mais je pense c'est

J'apprend aussi. Je regarde Le Chalet et c'est bon pour apprendre des phrases.

I started learning French and got frustrated at the pronunciation. I literally can't hear the difference between words like "dessus" and "dessous". I got accepted to a school in Quebec though, so now I have to learn it.

>>15503845
I am not a cat

>>15504382
Thanks anon, LingQ is so based.

>>15504716
The stories are the only things I use on Duolingo. Not the best place to learn but the stories are decent to try reading if I have a spare minute or two

>>15506598
actually fuck I take that back.
Why is it so expensive

>>15504281
bit boring in every single show though

Please do learn french, it’s a beautiful language and there are many words that have the same meaning in french and English.

Btw, don’t get discouraged because you have trouble speaking / writing... it’s the same for everyone who started to learn another language.
Male and female connotations and verbs are things you are bound to have problems with, but with rigour and diligence you will succeed. Good luck anon

>>15504235
They won't, your english accent will hide most of the French Canadian one anyway.

>>15504235
This: >>15506940
And also, as much as French people are stereotyped as being pretentious dickwads, in my experience they seem to genuinely appreciate people who learn their language, even if they're not perfect at it.

>>15503833
Do it faggot

>>15506951
Also I'm French Canadian and know A LOT of people from France who live here, there was also a shitton of them at university. Nobody laugh at accents, we only did that when we were like 12.

>>15506666
Because it was made by ((Steve Kaufman))

>>15504242
>>15504169
>>15504143
if you have a vpn you can watch the garbage that is french tv with molotov or captvty
try to find a youtube cahnnel with french people on a topic you like too

3eded

I studied french for 4 years at l'Alliance Française without putting too much effort in and I learned a lot.
I'd say what you do with French outside of class is just as important because it cements everything you've learned. I realise this now in hindsight and maybe that's the reason I couldn't really speak it too well 2,5 years in.
I started going weekly to one of those café meetings where you speak French and it did wonders.

>>15508413
and now what do you do with it

>>15503845
OP BTFO

>>15508424

Honestly? Not much.
I've read Le Petit Prince, L'étranger, Le tour du monde en 80 jours (kiddie version lmao) and a bit of La chute.
Other than that I just talked to French people and paid an underserved 50€ fine in the metro.

I picked up a Tintin comic today to help my studying. A1 level here I come.

>>15508696

L'étranger is pretty easy to read and it's a good book so start. I read it after my first year of French.

>>15503845

/thread

is this what a slide thread look like?

>>15508872
Actually L'étranger is the one book I decided to read first. I've read it in English which should help my understanding. My library has a huge selection of Tintin books, and as I believe them to be fairly easy, why not start with them.
Did you take a French class or were you doing self-study?

>>15503930
None. Shut your mouth, ball your fists, do it.

>>15508960

I'm >>15508413
I already spoke Spanish (native), English and Portuguese (not formally, just travelled to Brazil a lot) so French was fairly easy to get into.

>>15506349
I grew up in a French speaking family and can pretty much understand eveything they say but reading and writing is a totally different ball game.

https://youtu.be/1ZKPBQ8uCyk

>>15504143
>>15504312
>>15504354
I learned French in one year. I attended two courses, one semester each, of French at my university. We covered the A1 and A2 level books, respectively. The prof was pretty good but if you want to learn on your own I guess you can look for the books' PDF and audio files online and go through it yourself. Alongside I watched Easy French and other popular youtubers for French learning (innerFrench, StreetFrench.org, French in Plain Sight, etc, there are a lot). At the end of the year I centered around spoken French. I remenber I had a pretty big breakthrough thanks to this YouTuber who centers around spoken French, his channel is called The Language Geek - Fred Grün. His videos are incredibly helpful and I wish there were videos similar to his for all languages. After this breakthrough, I started watching YouTube videos intended for a French speaking audience. I'd watch French vloggers (specially qt girls like Anastesa, La Caroligie, etc) and my favorite, this youtuber called Loris Giuliano, pretty funny guy, doing street interviews on people. He's pretty helpful because he put subtitles in pretty much all his videos. And he and the people he interviews speak like, real French, the one you'd actually hear in France. So with him I learned the true spoken French, their expressions, etc.
Then, I went to Europe for one month. I spent like 3 weeks in France. I spoke with real French people. Even invited a French girl to go out with me. Bought like 30 French books, and came back. I could read L'étranger easily, I could read Un homme qui dort, quite easily. That's my current level, more or less. I can also listen to podcasts in French now, I like these feminists podcasts, I think they're pretty good, "Podcasts à soi" is one, and the other one is called "Les couilles sur le table". Of course you won't like those if you get triggered by "muh SWJs" lmao but the ARTERadio podcasts are pretty varied.

(mother tongue is Spanish btw)

>>15508983
Good prerequisites. I've never reaally been interested in other Romance languages, but ever since I started French I've grown more curious about Italian. Wouldn't study it in the near future though. Besides English I grew up speaking German which makes the genders of French a lot less frightening.

>>15509050
Spanish is watered down french so doesnt count

Any tips for me on how to read a book in another language?

>>15509202
Read one word, then read the next word, and so on.

>>15509209
but i dont know what it means.

>>15509233
Then you figure out what it means while reading words one after another.

Learn German instead. Why read French "philosophers"? For mathematics I can sort of understand why you would want to learn French. But fuck the accent it makes me cringe so hard. The language is for fags. German is so much manlier and actually makes sense.

>>15510081
German's for autism. French is for soul.