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what racial philosophers led to the modern conclusion that anyone who doesn’t act in an “actively antiracist manner” (a completely nebulous definition) is secretly racist?

>> No.15501042
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>>15501017
Well, I suppose I'm a racist then.
Funny, I thought I would feel different. I feel no change. I am still precisely the same. Maybe it's not as bad as I thought.

>> No.15501051

>Calling the police on black people

Bruh

>> No.15501053

>>15501017
Once it was effectively decoupled from political-economic dynamics, “racism” became increasingly amorphous as a charge or diagnosis—a blur of attitudes, utterances, individual actions, and patterned disparities, an autonomous force that acts outside of historically specific social relations. Today it serves as a single, all-purpose explanation for mass incarceration, the wealth gap, the wage gap, police brutality, racially disproportionate rates of poverty and unemployment, slavery, the Southern Jim Crow regime, health disparities, the drug war, random outbursts of individual bigotry, voter suppression, and more.
The obvious racial disparities are cause for concern, but the way forward is precisely through the kinds of social and economic policies that address black people as workers, students, parents, taxpayers, citizens, people in need of decent jobs, housing, and health care, or concerned with foreign policy—not to homogenize them under a monolithic racial classification. Thanks to this misguided reflex, we now routinely act as though initiatives directed to address working-class concerns can’t suffice for African Americans, since they’re class reductionist and therefore racially exclusionary. Ironically, as Touré Reed also points out, this perspective is race reductionist: It presumes that key policies and initiatives must always and everywhere be tailored to singularly African American-branded issues in order to appear to address African Americans’ needs.

>> No.15501052

>>15501017
"racism" is a fallacious concept

>> No.15501056

Jewish ones

>> No.15501057

Why are liberals and progressives so into GOTCHA politics. Seems dishonest and controlling

>> No.15501058

i hate this idea because the only way you can be active in more than a handful of issues is if you just follow the herd and never do your own reading. so what this kind of post is really saying is that you should either A) only care about BLM because other (objectively more important) issues can wait or B) give up on trying to have your own nuanced viewpoint on political issues and just smile and nod whenever a black person tells you what to think.

>> No.15501068

>>15501052
>"racism" is a fallacious concept
Yes, no such thing as racism.

>> No.15501152

>>15501017
Also, just think about this allegation that all people are racist. Do the activists who produce stuff like your pic really think their souls have been cured in the cleansing fire of "lived experience" and "unconscious bias" seminars? Have those black among them successfully purged the last of their "internalized racism?" How do they know their product is not also a product of the racist culture which raised them, formed their schools, of which they are only just becoming cognisant?
What the hell kind of person looks around and sees secret evil in everyone around him? Sounds like a fucking /pol/tard, that's no friend of humanity or of me. I prefer optimists who like people and abstain from punative punishment or shaming, to craft my public policy and ideology. Thanks.

>> No.15501162

I don't get how doing nothing is siding with anyone lol seems like some crazy tribal rhetoric, can anyone explain this mindset without schizo moralizing? Why would someone be "complicit" if the outcome would be the same if they weren't there or never existed?

>> No.15501188

>>15501162
you can’t. leftists have brought up their own religion of morality and proclaim everyone as complicit sinners

>> No.15501222

Pseuds, trannies and marxists on lit will still believe all races are equal and racism is bad despite all of this

>> No.15501230

>>15501222
Don't forget that there is no biological foundation to race but mixing races results in more genetic diversity. That's a real mind bender

>> No.15501243

I like the works of Joey Vimsante, who discusses racism in his book. Frist World Problems.

First World Problems

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08249CZ4D

A world where people are deeply offensive to eachother. One person decides to campaign against that, in the face of saying the insults are first world problems.

>> No.15501333

>>15501017
Gigantic wall of text
The left can't meme. They also want me to just accept all their fallacious premises vis a vis racism. They can fuck off.

George Floyd died of a drug and stress induced heart attack.

>> No.15501345

>>15501017
>What racial philosophers?
Undergraduate liberal arts professors aka ZOG bot programmers.

>> No.15501358

>>15501068
Racism as this asymmetric idea where whites are always bad because of their race and everybody else is always vindicated by their non-white race is fallacious.

Racism as hatred based on race, isn't fallacious.

>> No.15501378

>>15501017
whoever made this needs to read Mark Fisher

>> No.15501383

>>15501378
Everyone should read fisher.

>> No.15501411

>>15501230
I like this post too much, please someone step in to prove him wrong

>> No.15501434

>>15501378
Any recc in particular?

>> No.15501663

>>15501057
They operate often outside of the same wheels of power they want to control. The only way for them to achieve power is to claim, constantly, radically, and inconsistently, that everyone who currently occupies a seat of power is an insidious character who can offer nothing but hurt and oppression. By doing so, they undermine public trust in the current system and pave the way for their own ilk to take root in seats of power. Ironically, they do this not to promote genuine change, but because THEY themselves want power and influence to exert their beliefs -- through the same system they excoriate -- over the masses. They are no different than the very same people they claim to despise.

>> No.15501769

>>15501053
Based

>> No.15501780

>>15501053
All catered by the handmaidens on the intellectual left

>> No.15501792

>>15501017

Look how many black women are mayors of US cities, how many black girls are working at wal-mart and McDonald’s. There is a problem with black masculinity that is not addressed in their communities and families and is given permission and excuses by liberals in America. Nothing is their fault. It’s the only social issue that people seem to know exactly what the cause and effect is.

>> No.15501798

>>15501663
Based

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>>15501792
>Look how many black women are mayors of US cities, how many black girls are working at wal-mart and McDonald’s. There is a problem with black masculinity that is not addressed in their communities and families and is given permission and excuses by liberals in America. Nothing is their fault. It’s the only social issue that people seem to know exactly what the cause and effect is.


Look how many black women are mayors of US cities, how many black girls are working at wal-mart and McDonald’s. There is a problem with the structure of society that is not addressed in those communities and families that benefit and is given permission and excuses by everyone in America. Nothing is their fault. It’s the only social issue that people seem to ignore because a white supremacist society benefits them.

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>>15501017
Leftist/POC: There is only one race: the human race. We all came out of Africa. All humans are the same.
>Yessss this! So true! Racists BTFO *applauds*
Literally any white person: There is only one race: the human race. We all came out of Africa. All humans are the same.
>This is covert White Supremacy (see bottom of chart)
>You need to acknowledge differences in races so that you can pay more heed to POC voices
>Of course you want to see everyone as one race, because it benefits your privileged position to pretend we're equal
>retributive justice demands the raising-up of certain races and removing of Whites from prominence
You cannot win with leftist doublethink

>> No.15501890

>>15501833
Should add that if a white person quotes a black writer or thinker that disagrees with mainstream/leftist black thought that black writer is an Uncle Tom.

>> No.15502045

>>15501833
It is such a shitshow to watch white people teach and shame each other on Twitter and Instagram. Literally, for not spamming their timelines. And every other advice posted contradicts another. Say this! Dont say this! Do this! Never ever do this!

>> No.15502053

>>15501017
Michel Foucault

>> No.15502076

>>15502045
>Literally, for not spamming their timelines
Yeah I don't understand this. The "your silence is deafening" (etc) crowd. Am I supposed to be spamming the same BLM posts as everyone else? To what end? To show solidarity with all my white/brown Canadian followers? Am I going to be ousted for not being "outspoken" enough?

>> No.15502117

>>15502076
"Is that all you can do?" "Post something!" "Post more!" "Don't be a performative ally!" "Donate!" "Long-term!" "Dont be not racist, be anti-racist!" "The beauty of anti-racism is that you find racism in yourself." .......

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>>15501378
sweetie, this is a thread about being anti-racist. and you just recommended we read a DEAD white male
could you please join us in the 21st century, it's literally the year 2020

>> No.15502206

>>15502117
I know "virtue signalling" is a bit of a meme at this point, but come on. Nobody is reading any of this spam. Nobody is reading the 100th post that someone felt obligated to put on their story/timeline. The content is identical to every other outrage piece, every other call-to-allyship, every other "acknowledge your privilege" etc etc. It's a race to signal membership to a movement. It's "quantity-over-quality" taken to the extreme. These are the same ideas that have been discussed ad-nauseum in any elementary, secondary, post-secondary educational setting anywhere in North America. These ideas do not require continual meditation, constant re-wordings and re-workings, personalizations, etc. I understand and agree with much of it, but I do not need to contribute to the mass word-vomit to show that I am not a closet racist.

>> No.15502226

>>15502045
This is the result of the protestant legacy of American SJWs.
They desperately need a pope figure.

>> No.15502248

>>15502076

These assholes think they live in South Africa in 1980.

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>>15502076
>To show solidarity with all my white/brown Canadian followers? Am I going to be ousted for not being "outspoken" enough?

Come on bro even the Leafs are speaking out!

>> No.15502482

>>15501162
It's some sort of twisted would-be original sin. You aren't neutral in their books, you are evil by default and need to take specific, big action to atone. For them, anyone that doesn't openly and explicitly worship negroes is evil.
The word worship is hardly hyperbolic considering it often takes a ritual aspect, extremely strong rhetoric and clear material and social sacrifice. Just look at the recent amerimutt videos of hundreds of whiteys kneeling and reciting incantations in unison to a few niggers standing in front of them after torching some random stores. It doesn't even have the protocol formal aspect of genuflection in front of hierarchical superiors, which is really a 'good manner' esthetic with no other emotion behind it. It is really the kneel we take in front of prophets.
It's effectively about negroes most of the time. They don't care much about other races and they wouldn't bother you for disliking chinks or others provided you worship negoes hard enough (many such cases).

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>>15502482
this applies to the cult of niggers too

>> No.15502513

How do you "Defeat" something as intangible as racism? The fuck

>> No.15502644

>>15501780
shut up retard, the adults are speaking

>> No.15502659

>>15501230
Who said anything about genetic diversity? When people reference diversity in this context they're talking about diverse cultural contexts, diverse beliefs, or diverse experiences, not biological diversity.

>> No.15502669

>>15501333
That's not a meme

>> No.15502674

>>15502513
permanent revolution - (((trotsky)))

>> No.15502678

>>15501162
>>15501188
Are you trying not to understand? Leaving the racism word behind,
>have power to easily intervene in someones unnecessary death
>don’t
The question then is obviously why didn’t you?
The answer they give is racism

>> No.15502682

>>15502513
You don't. It's neopuritanism. You can never be free of sin/privilege, but through constant acts of devotion and submission you can get into heaven/be considered one of "the good ones" by a cool black person on twitter.

>> No.15502698

>>15502669
yes it is. it is an idea put forth with the intention of persuading the public consciousness in some way. Nobody is going to read and absorb this condescending crap.

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Why should I even care about racism?

>> No.15502795

>>15502659
Absolutely untrue, hybrid vigor is a stock argument used by liberals to promote/defend mixing races. This includes papers and articles that assert that mixed-race individuals are more attractive or healthier on average. You might be able to argue that it’s just rhetoric but hybrid vigor is routinely wheeled out by liberals in arguments against racists (they also teach this in medical school)

>> No.15502885

>>15502795
I’ve also seen gigalibs rant about how whites are all chronically inbred.

>> No.15502888

MLK quote about how we'll remember the silence of our friends + general postmodern idea that everything is discursive (even silence is action, here extrapolated to "silence regards to race" = racism).

>> No.15502894

>>15502795
and most of them have curiously never heard the term outbreeding depression

>> No.15502908

>>15501053
>The obvious racial disparities are cause for concern, but the way forward is precisely through the kinds of social and economic policies that address black people as workers, students, parents, taxpayers, citizens, people in need of decent jobs, housing, and health care, or concerned with foreign policy—not to homogenize them under a monolithic racial classification.

Social and economic policies are what the US has been trying to use to uplift the negro for the last century, always to realize that it's pretty much useless. At this point you're lying to yourself if you think the negro question is merely a social and economic issue, and not an issue on the genetic level.

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>>15502885
Whites are the least inbred of all people.
Some people (Arabs and all muslims plus Indians in particular) are so inbred that your kids would be more inbred if you (white man) married an arab/paki woman than a random white girl.
Inbreeding is also overblown in the west by people that never studied statistics. You really have to be first cousin fucking for several generations to get the meme Charles of Spain levels.

>> No.15503070

>>15503059
What the fuck is wrong with islam and shitskins in general? Why are they so fucking inbred?

>> No.15503107

>>15503070
For islam it is the only big legal/moral tradition that not only allows but encourages cousin marriage. Thanks Muhammad.
Shitskins in general form very low trust societies (can't blame them when they have other shitskins around them) compared to higher races. I assume it limits what is considered fair game to reproduce with (outside of rape/conquest-slavery of course).

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>>15501017
>Calling the police on black people
my sides

>> No.15503176

>>15501053
>but the way forward is precisely through the kinds of social and economic policies that address black people as workers, students, parents, taxpayers, citizens, people in need of decent jobs, housing, and health care, or concerned with foreign policy

That's been happening for decades, y'know. Though, the introduction of the min. wage did, in part, affect black employment.

>> No.15503213

>>15503059
this can't be accurate; cousin marriage isn't that uncommon in Japan

>> No.15503255

>>15501017
>Imagine thinking posting on twitter is "Fighting for the cause"
Absolute state

>> No.15503297

>>15502644
Triggered

>> No.15503303

>>15502482
Based

>> No.15503404

At what point of that pyramid do whites just tell them to go fuck themselves?

>> No.15503455

>>15501017
Its just word games from people who are hungry for power, its not an honest attempt to find the truth.
>>15501358
"racism" in most people's minds connects an absolutely normal and stable in group bias with mass murder and genocide.

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>>15503455
checked

>> No.15503541

>>15501378
or just go to Deleuze.
Land's first essay is great for this stuff too - Kant, Capital, and the Prohibition of Incest.
>>15502137
kek

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>>15501152
>What the hell kind of person looks around and sees secret evil in everyone around him? Sounds like a fucking /pol/tard, that's no friend of humanity or of me
BASED

>> No.15503946

Is this makes you feel insecure then maybe you are a actually a racist

>> No.15503965

>>15501017

>Mass incarceration
>Socially acceptable

I wish

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>>15503946
>insecure
Pretty sure not wanting to be explicitly targeted for your skin colour isn't "insecurity".
I don't really give a shit if people think I'm a racist or not. Fuck with me and I'll fuck with you right back. I'm not going to give you special privileges or consideration for your skin colour either and if it bothers you I've got no problem telling you to eat a dick.
Come to my country and try to tell people how to think and act while bitching and crying like a little retard. See how long you last.

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Fuck wypipo