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Do people read poetry? I thought it was gay back when I was in school but that might just have been peer pressure.

>>15486711
I read a ton of poetry. Reading poetry is the straightest thing a man can do.

>>15486852
The lack of margins make it pretty hard to read

>>15486891
I can see that. It’s a bit better when you have it in your hand. But this was only a prototype printing, so I’ll keep that in mind.

What the best poetry for a beginner?

Do Mallarme's Un Coup De Des next

>>15486931
At a beginner's level you should really read as widely as possible to get a feel for different poets, then stick to one you like. Get a short poem from a bunch of poets Classical and Modernist, even translated ones (ignore those language purist goons), and cull a list of poets you want to explore. Then expand from there. Try writing your own poems in varied forms too.

>>15486702
they could be using poetry data compression techniques to enhance their stories

still the soul of poetry is to triangulate an idea by activating multiple associated neurons in an exotic way.

>>15486931
There isn’t really a general best poetry “for beginners.” What kind of poetry you’ll like depends on your own personal tastes. I’d recommend just finding one poet you like, and then reading the poets who influenced them.
Some ideas to start with: Bukowski, Ginsberg, Whitman, Frost, Cummings. I’m not saying these poets were all equally great, but they we’re at least entry points for me into poetry.

If you share some of your favorite books, songs, paintings, or whatever, in sure I could give more of a personalized recommendation.

>>15486931
dr seuss

>>15486931
Media portrays women as linking poetry so its probably easy to read

>>15486711
Yes

>>15486962
There's absolutely no reason not to start with Howl, then the annotated facsimile of Howl, then say "fuck poetry" and jump right into Naked Lunch.

>>15486962
>Bukowski, Ginsberg, Whitman, Frost, Cummings
no Yeats or T.S. Eliot ?

What are you a faggot?

>>15487247
those are just the poets who got me personally into poetry

>>15487247
>Yeats or T.S. Eliot
Hacks, both of them.

>>15486702
Cool idea, but why would you need compact storage for poetry? Ideally, poems should be printed in large text set in wide margins on large sheets of paper or scrolls. Cramming everything onto a notecard ruins the aesthetic appeal.

>>15488329
toilets

>>15488430
When I'm on the go, I like to carry a little booklet of poetry in my pocket. >>15486702
>>15486852 are from a little anthology I made, which is about the size of a cassette tape.
It's a much better momentary diversion than taking out my phone and scrolling stupidly through it.

>>15486702
This is ugly and part of poetry is the actual way the poem is shaped. You're just ruining the art. This is something a retarded anti-aesthete would do. You don't deserve to read poetry, go back to prose, plotfag.

>>15489787
wrong.

>>15489837
wrong.

>>15489570
You do know that apps for reading poetry exist on your phone, don't you?

>>15490139
The point is to be reading poetry instead of using my phone. Using my phone to read poetry is still using my phone.

>>15486711
I think this is broadly a Western and specifically an American notion, that of poetry is "gay".

I feel like I have whatever tone-deafness is for stress. I don't understand how people do scansion on poems.

>>15486702
Looks easier to read this way desu

>>15486962
This, and after that go for the Chileans. Some of the greatest verses have been written by them.

>Vicente Huidobro
Altazor. Nuff said
>Pablo Neruda
"I like it when you shut up, because it's as if you're missing"
Also makes women cry because muh miso-yo-knee
>Nicanor Parra
Father of anti-poetry in Latin America. His works were some of the most quotable things in history.
"There's two pieces of bread. You eat both, I eat none. Average: 1 bread per person"

If you can learn spanish for the best experience much better, and I'd recommend watching Destinos to absorb the language well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destinos

Have fun, anon.

I sort of want to start reading poetry but is there a handbook or guide I should read to understand poetry better or is it better to just dive into it. And by that I mean I dont't understand meter or measure or those sorts of things.

>>15492242
Pic related is a good intro.

It also might be good for you to just read through a relatively short but comprehensive anthology of poetry. Louis Simpson’s “An Introduction to Poetry” isn’t bad for this—plus, it has a few essays on poetry as well in it.

Allen Ginsberg also has a ton of lectures on archive.org. Some are more centered around writing poetry, but if you listen to some of his “Basic Poetics” course, that might give you a decent foundation.

Best of luck.

>>15492719
Forgot pic

>>15492719
>>15492725
One more thing: reading poems aloud helps a TON!!!!

You won’t always want to read every poem out loud, but it will aid your enjoyment and comprehension if you do.

>>15486938
kek

>>15486702
fuck all yeats ever wrote fits into a book WITH proper formatting and font size 14

>>15487247
Yes.

>>15486702
>>15486852
OP is just printing out his directory trees.

>>15492734
Be quiet, woman.