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>>15482083
What does Neil deGrasse Tyson do again?

>>15482083
an ecotheologian explaining panentheism

>>15482098
Neil "Smoke deGrasse" Tyson appears on talk shows, cape movies and science documentaries. People like his voice. The media like that he's black.

>>15482098
Makes religionfags seethe with logic and reason

>>15482083
Not something I've read (heard it in a lecture) but the following insight helped me realize the nature of all discourse, artistic or otherwise:

>You should write not to communicate, but to provide value for a specific circle of readers.

“Strange friend,” I said, “here is no cause to mourn.”
“None,” said that other, “save the undone years...
...Now men will go content with what we spoiled.
Or, discontent, boil bloody, and be spilled.
They will be swift with swiftness of the tigress.
None will break ranks, though nations trek from progress."

listen to what people do, not what they say, especially with women

>>15482132
>he thinks "objective truths" can be apprehended outside of a belief system

oh no no no

>>15482135
I don't get it.

>>15482114
Is he an actual scientist? Does he do science or just talk about it for reddit plebs?

>>15482177
he hasnt published any research in over a decade so no he doesnt actually do science anymore. Apparently the field that's the "one true source of knowledge" or whatever was so worthless to him that as soon as he secured a media contract or whatever he immediately gave up on it

>>15482083
>What is the deepest, most profound piece of insight you have ever read?
The Whiteness of the Whale

>Here, I've got an experiment for you—safety glasses on. By the end of this century, if emissions keep rising, the average temperature on Earth could go up another 4 to 8 degrees. What I'm saying is the planet's on fucking fire. There are a lot of things we could do to put it out. Are any of them free? No, of course not—nothing's free, you idiots. Grow the fuck up. You're not children anymore. I didn't mind explaining photosynthesis to you when you were 12, but you're adults now and this is an actual crisis. Got it? Safety glasses off, motherfuckers.
Woah...

>>15482226
why is it horrifically if the adjective is horrific and not horrifical? shouldn't it be horrificly?

>>15482247
Why does he talk like a millennial when he is in his 60s?

>>15482279
>mfw it's real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7suWu37DY

>>15482259
Horrifical was actually a word. It's like comic, comical, comically. I'm not sure what exactly the deal is with adding the 'al' onto stuff.

>>15482290
He is the living embodiment of reddit.

>>15482247
Why are his eyes yellow? Is that a normal eye color?

>>15482259
>>15482292
Here's what I think it is, you can form adjectives by adding the 'al' suffix to nouns, such as nature-natural, base-basal, etc. Horrific entered English around the 1650s, apparently either from horrifique(French) or horrificus(Latin). At the time spelling wasn't standardized and you probably had various spellings of adverbs with and without the 'al' addition, until many ended being the long form.

Though you still have both for words that I guess didn't use the long form adjective as much, like public. Publical isn't used much, so you see publicly, and there used to be nonstandard publically. See also how words like ironical seem to have died out, though ironically is still used instead of ironicly.

I can't find anything specific about this subject, I just collated the above from a couple sources so it might not be that accurate.

>>15482114
>Neil "Smoke deGrasse" Tyson
I had a genuine laugh, thank you for that.

>>15482290
>Temperatures are rising because we gathered a bunch of data points and made a bunch of models! That's science right? What do you mean it's not falsifiable and has no real predictive power? Give me a billion dollars for climate research or we're going to die!

>>15482226
I hate people that obfuscate death with other forms of death with more numbers, as if there aren’t resources enough to solve all the problems and we just refuse to fix any of them.

>>15482768
Hello I am pleb. Can someone explain to me why all this climate change stuff is real or a hoax?

>>15482831
Climate change is a psuedoscience that has happened because in order to continue their research, scientists must convince their handlers that their work is important so they can recieve grants. That is they have every incentive to predict that climate change is going to kill everybody and no incentive to actually try and prove it wrong, to do so would be to actively try and destroy their own job and probably their reputation. (imagine a real scientist who actually tried to uncover error in a field full of people with a smarter-than-thou puritan attitude like Bill Nye).

All the disastrous predictions made by climate scientists are basically impossible to prove wrong because it's computationally impossible to model the atmosphere. It's just statistics with ideology piled on top.

>>15482888
>Climate change is a psuedoscience that has happened because in order to continue their research
But what is this research they want to continue that requires them to lie in the first place?

>>15482831
Things are getting warmer, but there's no need to get your panties in a twist.

>>15483003
So it's not going to get disastrously warm? And is it true that humans are causing it or is that a hoax? What is the cause?

>>15482888
If that's the case then surely it applies to other fields of science as well, potentially throwing the whole field into disrepute? Why do I only ever hear this argument made when it comes to climate science?

>>15482888
>>15483003
Also what about polar because losing their home due to the melting of the polar ice caps?

>>15483035
>Also what about polar because
*polar bears

>>15483034
It does apply to other fields of science, you should never trust any science that can't prove itself through some kind of application, or at the least through very accurate predictions.

>>15483034
STEMbug here. It is true of most other fields of science, except maybe math, cs (i.e algos and structures, not coding) and high level stats. Most of the stuff being published and getting grants are the bare minimum perturbations of the status quo, piggybacking on technologies that are in the mode (like CRISPR or deep learning).

>>15483047
Ok but here >>15482888
anon said that climate change is a psuedoscience that they made up to continue their research. So what this they they were initially researching before they said "In order to keep receiving grants, we need to make up a lie about climate change"?

>>15482083
>what they need to know
Who the fuck decides what people "need to know"
Fucking piece of shit Neil deGrasse

>>15482083
Yes, people turn to religion because the idea of others burning in hell for eternity is exactly what they want to hear.
What a fucking faggot retard.

>>15482999
Data collection, making models that purport to predict data increase, research into renewable energy (how many decades have they been talking about renewable energy and it is not even close to replacing fossil fuels or nuclear)

>>15483034
No because other fields of science have hypothesis that are falsifiable, and they are run by institutions that actually want them to falsify their hypotheses. This basic principle is why science has this aura of infallibility except its completely absent in climate "science" where it is absent.

>>15483035
I'm not saying that the climate literally doesn't change or that there aren't negative environmental changes, it's just that the way the "science" is done regarding these things is completely fraudulent.

>>15483088
They were probably initially doing genuine climate research, I don't think the pseudoscience developed consciously. It's like an evolutionary process where the scientists who predicted benign results stop getting funding and are removed from the gene pool until all that is left are the good bureaucrats who choose their research based on what their handlers want to hear.

>>15482768
>we gathered a bunch of data points and made a bunch of models! That's science right?
Yes.

>>15483460
the idea of people who disagree with them burning eternally while they get to hang out with their friends and gram-gram forever is the part that they want to hear you retard faggot.

Most religious people don't receive divine revelations and don't extensively study theology. They just love religion because their family/friends do and they consider priests good people.
Most science-loving people don't do science experiments or develop theories. They just love science because their family/friends do and they consider scientists good people.
Sounds pretty symmetrical.

>>15482313
he's becoming more powerful
soon no one will be able to stop him....

>>15483612
But seriously, why are his eyes yellow? Is that a Jewish trait or something?

>>15482083
So what he's trying to say is... philosophy is science?

>>15482098
>>15482114
>>15482132
He's an astrophysicist.

>>15482114
based

>>15482083

>>15483629
Except these types of fags usually say that philosophy is worthless.

>>15482259
>>15482391
I'm like 99% sure "horrificly" is the actual word, but some busebody pencil neck (probably the same fag that put an H and an E in "Thames" so it would "look Greek") decided to put an A in there because "Horfficly" is ugly.

>>15483487
> It's like an evolutionary process where the scientists who predicted benign results stop getting funding and are removed from the gene pool
I hear rumours that oil companies are willing to throw around a lot of cash and fund fraudulent studies as well, but this detail seems to be ignored (along with any other company funding a study for their own benefit) until it comes to the issue of climate change. It seems like the climate deniers have their own political agenda that they'd like to push.

>>15483687
The goal of climate change truthers is to stop the economy, stop travels and force people to vastly reduce their life quality (if not their numbers). That is being achieved now via different means.

>>15483746
>The goal of climate change truthers is to stop the economy, stop travels and force people to vastly reduce their life quality (if not their numbers).
But why? What do they get out of this?

>>15483487
>It's like an evolutionary process where the scientists who predicted benign results stop getting funding and are removed from the gene pool until all that is left are the good bureaucrats who choose their research based on what their handlers want to hear.

Imagine believing this while simultaneously doubting the rigor of empirical models.

>>15483770
Their models can't predict shit, and they've been caught fabricating data.

>>15483776
Source?

>>15482083
>science
>expanding anything

>>15482083
And under what principle does what he says change the core of judgaments that a believer makes? To believe in the empiricism of the world we live in is akin to believing that we live in a puddle. To believe in Socrate's cave. Dumb nigger, like many other so called atheists can't comprehend that the same 'fallacy' that religious people fall under is the same number retards follow. There's more to this world that we can see, to say that there is, or that there is not a god is equally as retarded.

>>15483460
>Yes, people turn to religion because the idea of others burning in hell for eternity is exactly what they want to hear.
This is unironically true for many people, which should be obvious considering that before the current invasion to this board of tourists that don’t read and just make self-pitying whinge posts, there was previously the large number of christlarpers fucking with board quality (though the Christians were far far preferable to the current faggots) and many of them took active joy at the idea of people they didn’t like going to hell.

>>15482831
it's real. watch potholer on youtube.

>>15482156
>save the undone years...
progress of civilization
>Now men will go content with what we spoiled.
not knowing the greatness of former civilization
>Or, discontent,
those who remember or otherwise know the greatness
>boil bloody,
grow angry
>and be spilled.
suffer or be punished
>They will be swift with swiftness of the tigress.
quickly
>None will break ranks, though nations trek from progress.
March against the progess to keep their security
I think it's about the fall of civilization or maybe it's better put as the decline of anything and the acceptance of those who seek security or ease and the loneliness and despair of those who remember and try to fight against a tide.
Basically just a long
>'Member?

>>15482135

>>15482083
>No one calling out that its actually a Marx quote

>>15483645
haven't kek'd this heartily in a long time.

>>15482083
i really wish bugmen would shut up about religion and open a fucking book

>>15482098
>What does Neil deGrasse Tyson do again?
>>15482132
>>15482114
>>15483638
Fedora tipping, mostly

>>15482083

And the whole world opened up before me because I have no dreams.

Everything you are experiencing is a non consensual experience.

>>15482132
>Objective truths!

Joe Rogan BTFO him when even asking about what causes gravity or what it actually is.

FUN FACT: Literally nobody can answer to a capacity other than "Gravity is caused by gravitons".

>>15482083
I'm thinking he's based, Science just werks. We are currently shitposting on a Samoan tea drinking forum thanks to the discoveries of science. Religion and philosophy are good, and if you want to understand reality, Science is the place to go.

>>15484833
no one said we totally understand reality. at least with science we can try

>>15482114
>Smoke deGrasse
Aha nice

>>15482831
It's a hox in a sense that all the green tax will not charge a thing but make a bunch of kikes rich.

>>15482083
80% of scientific studies, when recreated, fail to achieve the same results.

Science has become a cult. People use science now not to discover, but to reinforce. If someone proposes a scientific study and people fear the results may be less than politically correct, the experiment is not permitted to continue. Funding is cut. The scientist is blacklisted. And if the results are undesirable they are altered because the scientist feels they have a moral obligation before they have a scientific obligation. This is why the scientific community can't agree that the Chinese Flu came from China. This is why a nobel prize winner who cracked the human genome is blacklisted for suggesting genetics implies differences between races. This is why Bill Nye the science guy champions 616 genders.

Suck a dick, Neil Degras Tyson.

>>15484833
gravity is caused by yo momma's fat ass

>>15483650
'ate lingustic purists

>>15484893
>If someone proposes a scientific study and people fear the results may be less than politically correct, the experiment is not permitted to continue. Funding is cut. The scientist is blacklisted. And if the results are undesirable they are altered
Global warming/Cancer/Diet research in a nutshell.
>This is why the scientific community can't agree that the Chinese Flu came from China.
They don't make claims they can't prove. Like lawyers.
I think it was either random or american desu. It makes no sense for china to alienate it's allies by releasing a virus on asia to fuck with america.
>human genome
Oh that experiment where they threw away half of their research material for over six decades? I forgot about that complete waste of resource and time.
>This is why Bill Nye the science guy champions 616 genders.
That one episode really fucked you up huh?

>>15483755
We just really like hexagons. We all got together and decided this was the fastest way of turning the whole world into hexagonal prisms.

>>15482083
>Religion tells people what they want to hear.
Where does this meme come from?
Are evangelical preachers the reason it exists?
Did he read book of Ecclesiastes?
It's completely depressing and deals with the truth of existence
Or anything Jesus said?
Do I want to hear that i should care less and less for my earthly desires to reach God?
Do i want to hear that a mere sexual thought is a sin and I should control my sexual needs until marriage?
Did any of the apostles want to hear that they will suffer alot for his name?
One of the biggest points in the NT is how alot of people didn't like what Jesus said because it was too hard to accept or follow.

>>15482290
>give me money or else you are a child
so this is the power neo-liberal scientism

>>15484893
>80% of scientific studies, when recreated, fail to achieve the same results.
This isn’t true, schizo

The insights of my poems

As a historian, when I was in undergrad and doing my first research into serious military history, the phrase "le feu tue" was a huge eye-opener in terms of understanding what made Napoleon's tactics special and all subsequent military history make sense.

>>15483578
That's humanity m80.

>>15482083
Tyson has nothing to offer to alleviate the stress and despair brought by our impending deaths.
>dude the universe like really big, we're pretty sure it's expanding
>Bro quantum mechanics is SPOOKY
>Yeah you can do a lot with scientific knowledge bro

>>15482083
Please explain away my spiritual experiences, divine revelation, and enlightenment
>Take your meds schizo
k

>>15487355
>we can only rely on our senses and empirical experiences
>noooo, stop placing value in spiritual experiences that you empirically felt!!

>>15484833
is Ken Wheeler right about gravity?

>>15482132
I'd love to see one of these idiots go through the Canadian Income Tax Act line by line, and make sure that all ~3,000 bible thin pages were scientifically verified.

>>15484833
What about Gary's (Inmendham) Draft Science channel. He apparently is working on a unified theory of physics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL33ApS7fSo

>>15485400
It's a book that convinces you that only people who read it are smart and you're better than everyone else if you preach it to them and anyone refusing to listen is inferior or evil.
>You are the smartest and goodest and anyone who disagrees is the stupidest and evil.
If that's not what people want to here i don't know what is.

>>15487601
Man, I hate this. I also hate it when people try to explain away common experiential phenomena (like free-will, or even thought itself) as "illusory." Yeah, I shouldn't trust my experiences, but I should trust some argumentative prick with an ideological axe to grind. Okay.

>>15487716
>Free will is just an illusion, bro. We're just random collections of particles. Everything you do is just a completely mechanical reaction to stimuli.
>wtf you religious folk are such terrible, immoral people!

>>15484908
Based

>>15486834
>le feu tue
I tried looking up the phrase everywhere but got nothing. What does it mean?

>Nothing in life matters, bruh. There is no God, no meaning, no soul, no purpose, nothing! We all just happened to be born, one day we'll die, and none of it matters.
>WHAT THE FUCK YOU RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, SEXIST PIGS. The things you believe are NOT ok.

>>15487894
Firepower kills.

>>15482083
Nothing a human being has ever said will compare to the wisdom of nature itself. Go out to a remote place and listen to the breathing of the world.

>>15487897
Right up there with: "All morals are relative! By the way, if you don't agree with my belief system, you're evil."

>>15482083
This book.
I was a left winger until I discovered the reason why my opinions had been taught to me. It was an eye opener, and I now devote my money, time, and labour for the reactionary right in order to try to make up for my foolish, destructive labours on behalf of the cultural neoMarxists who were using me against my own interests.

>>15487708
No it doesn't. Isreal has a fucking awful history recorded in the Bible and Jesus end up calling them sons of Satan. Literally every Christian is called to be as humble as it gets and only look at your own sins without judging anyone.
Ofcours majority of Christians aren't like this at all and they think they are better people but they've totally missed the point of why we are saved. The road that leads to reach true Christianity is very hard and it requires alot of Self denial.

>>15483781
the silence is deafening

>>15482083
>What is the deepest, most profound piece of insight you have ever read?

The thing about niggers and crime rates/intelligence

>>15482259
>>15482292
>>15482391
>>15483650
>>15484923
HAT
ON
A
HORSE

>>15482247

>>15487944
based

>>15487959
What are some of the key points in this book?

Aryadeva's Four Hundred Verses, particularly where he talks about visualization meditation on how real woman are disgusting

>>15482132
He should be more careful with what he wishes. When AI makes decisions based on objective truths blacks are left behind

>>15487959
I don't believe people actually read CofC. I think they just point it out as a book written by someone with a doctorate who agrees with their anathemic views on people of Judaism.

>>15487960
You are absolutely delusional if you think there is a single thing you said in either of your posts that is not actively contributing to the "what they want to hear" factor of Christianity.
You are operating on have your "cake and eat it too" levels that should not even be humanly possible. Not only you are told what you want to hear, you are also told that you are not told what you want to hear, because you want to hear it.

The absolute memetic power is uncanny. The literal act of faith, the believing of the what you want to believe because you don't think it's warranted, this itself is part of the very struggle that proves to you that you engage in self denial.

>>15488086
kek

>>15488058
bump

>>15488089
It's really not as jew-hating as it's made out to be. It's more just like a dry summation of facts.

>>15488089
Have you read it or do you just asume people don't read it because they don't like Jews?

>>15488491
It's about the Frankfurt school or something? Save your time and read Jan Assmann for the deepest lore

>>15488489
It's an assemblage of points directed at a thesis. It is subjective

>>15488584
It's about several movements or events in the 20th century
>boasian anthropology and anti-darwinism
>general left wing groups
>psychoanalysis
>frankfurt
>immigration policy
>neocons esp. foreign policy Israel

>>15488612
What is psychoanalysis and how is it different from psychology?

>>15488612
Now why do you think a minority might stand athwart the proto-fascist and fascist impulses of modernity yelling stop? This is all superficial. To actually understand you have to go down another level into why that group exists in the first place. This is the same monotheism that rebelled against the Roman empire multiple times because it couldn't stomach being integrated. It then gave rise to Christianity (and Islam) which carried on the claim to posses the one truth/falsehood distinction. From the synthesis of their own ideas with Hellenistic Rome then sprang the very Western European civilization they now "critique" for being oppressive to them. In truth the criticizer and the criticized cannot be separated.

>>15488633
Are you genuinely asking? It's a theory and practice invented by Freud. Sort of hard to pin down what exactly it is, it's not really philosophy and it made no pretensions to empirical validity at the time(there are now some studies showing that it might have positive long term effects but these are recent).

Other people after Freud continued to theorize, and it's a therapeutic discipline, mostly for rich people. It's not regarded very well in academic psychology, though Freud obviously contributed ideas that influenced the field. Philosophers and literary critics and so on have taken it seriously though.

I guess the most central concept is the unconscious mind and its effects on the conscious mind and behavior. A whole kind of architecture is built up through your life in the unconscious because of things that happen to you as you develop, and psychoanalytic therapy tries to deal with these unseen areas to address problems the conscious psyche has. It's all rather complicated how it's supposed to work.

>>15488685
All this, plus couches.

>>15488685
But how is it any different from psychology

>>15488685
This was already formulated about two thousand years ago by Yogacara Buddhism, that you have a storehouse consciousness above the active mind that holds the seeds of your contact with afflicted phenomenawhich can latently manifest in the future

>>15488788
There's nothing new under the sun.

>>15488788
There were ideas in the 19th century that were similar as well. Notably Schopenhauer, who Freud maintained he had not read, which seems a bit dubious.

But Freud and his followers elaborated a whole complex theory and method, so you have to look at psychoanalysis as its own thing, even if it is presaged by earlier ideas.

>>15488815
Schopenhauer's affinity for Buddhism is well attested

>>15487960
>Jesus end up calling them sons of Satan
Wut? Sauce.
>look at your own sins without judging anyone.
Except when you're, y'know, stoning people for their sins. Let's not forget about having to preach his word and tell people about all the sin they are committing. Please donate to the church to be a good person, i promise it's not getting spent on fuel for private jets.

>>15489241
Revelation chapter 3 verse 9

>>15489264
This verse frightens the boomer.

>>15487684
This guy looks like a Schizo, give me a rundown.

>>15489241
>>look at your own sins without judging anyone.
>Except when you're, y'know, stoning people for their sins. Let's not forget about having to preach his word and tell people about all the sin they are committing. Please donate to the church to be a good person, i promise it's not getting spent on fuel for private jets
So as I said earlier. The Evangelicals are the reason this meme exists.

>>15487959
You owe it to yourself to read the many reactionary critiques of this book and anti-semitism in general. The last thing you want is to become is the heel leftists want you to be.

>>15489351
Reactionary critiques before the 20th century are pretty much all 'antisemitic'

>>15483687
Thats the common rhetoric you hear from the true believers. No shit oil companies have an incentive to fund research that benefits them. However there are also oil companies that suck up to the narrative (Shell) so again the point is about incentives. Science shouldn't be done with a conflict of interest, it should be done out of curiosity like it was originally before government centralized it and made it a political thing.

>>15482140
Wisdom. Only piece of actual substance Ive ever encountered here damn

>>15489328
>No true scotsman
If only you had such flexibility with people outside your cabal.

>>15483034
>If that's the case then surely it applies to other fields of science as well
All science is a grift designed to stray us away from the one true path.

>>15489364
So? the 20th century is where anti-semitism starts being a relevant topic to contemporary people in the first place, a pre-20th century writer will have nothing to say about the supposed takeover of the west by a jewish elite because it couldn't have happened yet.

>>15483770
>models
>empirical

>>15489374
>'member
too late
Do you remember when cornflakes funded a study on cholesterol and told people duh eggs are bad?
Or how about that poll to ban di-hydrogen oxide from the water supply?

>>15483795
>the current invasion to this board of tourists that don’t read
/lit/ has never read in any real sense.

>>15484807
Is /lit/ now a post modern board?

>>15483784
Its the better alternative though

>>15489437
Your point? Do these studies hold any water today? Does anyone respect them in the "scientific community" and does it affect public policy? I'm gonna bet the answer is no.

>>15490034
He was a very optimistic man.

>>15490022
You're correct because businesses interfered in scientific studies and misinformed or otherwise suppressed actual evidence.
E.G
>Eggs heighten cholesterol
>Heightened cholesterol can be bad for your heart
Both objectively true. There was no lying done here, only misinformation.
Or...
>Excessive consumption of di-hydrogen oxide can lead to drowning and oxidative stress which may lead to premature aging.
>Di-hydrogen oxide is h2o

>TL;DR the point is misinformation is easy. The first lie usually wins. Find out who profits most. Learn to tell the difference between adds and facts.
Oh, don't buy islands.

>>15482247
What a traitor

>>15482226
>Hey, let's just obfuscate the issue by presenting data that shows just how insignificant the issue is, while also not doing anything to stop the issues that are far more severe

>>15490042
Materialism is going down this century.

>>15489351
>the many reactionary critiques of this book and anti-semitism in general
Name some.

>>15482831
I think if it really interests you anon, you should read papers by climatologists or geologists on the issue. Read both people who suggest that the climate is changing due to human factors, and those who suggest that it is a natural process. Then, you synthesize the two and form your own conclusion on what it means to you. Also, remember to not confuse the map with the terrain; science is not about uncovering objective truths. Science is about making predictive models about an objective reality independent of subjective interpretation.

>>15490531
>Read both people who suggest that the climate is changing due to human factors, and those who suggest that it is a natural process. Then, you synthesize the two and form your own conclusion on what it means to you.
pretty shit advice to give a person with no training in science

>>15482134
That's a horrible, non-sensical quote
>you should write not to communicate
What? That's what writing is, communication.
>you should walk not to move

>>15482083

Sciences and Social Sciences assume themselves too much. Philosophy assumes too little.

Math and God are the only truths.

>>15490579
Complex answers are met with complex solutions, shocking isn't it. Unfortunately, the answers to climate change can't be summarized into some Vox article like you'd want it to be.

>>15484833
I thought Einstein proved that Gravity was just curvature of Spacetime

>>15491082
>dude just read whatever garbage you come across and then decide that truth is whatever feels reasonable to you
yeah real complex solution man