/lit/ - Literature

>the idea that nothing can be proven has a proof

>>15478536
'life is meaningless' is not a conclusion you come to if you philosophise for yourself instead of repeating popular sentiment wordforword

>>15478538
>the idea that something can be proven has a proof

>first they shoehorned women into my vidya
>now they are even lecturing me in my memes

>>15478541
btw every single point is riddled with unexamined philosophical presuppositions, that is biases and preferences.

>>15478546
Explain. That doesn't seem anywhere close to being as paradoxical.

>>15478541
pretty sure you've been proven wrong by every angsty teen out there

Existentialism is not what philosophy is about, existentialism is just baby's first philosophical problem.

>>15478536
no but if you can't figure out why then philosophy is "just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences"

>>15478554
You're justifying reason with... reason?

>try to prevent that bleak future from taking root
Thanks for the laugh.

>>15478555
every angsty teen out there is a hive mind of popculture.

>>15478559
also this. existentialism rarely counts as legit philosophy and when it does it's still boring and trite as fuck.

>>15478536
Women don't have real problems, so of course it would follow that they wouldn't seek out answers.
Imagine if you could put some powder on your face and hordes of idiots would give you free money. Do you think that kind of life lends itself to the sort of suffering that leads to philosophical reflection?

>>15478536
>life is meaningless
>you're supposed to be the first or the last
>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
She implies a lot.

>>15478536
Literacy is wasted on 95% of men and completely wasted on women.

>>15478578
>5% of men
You're being generous. That's one kid in every second classroom.

judging by this thread, looks like shit hit a nerve

>>15478563
It's at least circular rather than contradictory like proving unprovability.

>>15478583
make it 98.3% then

>>15478536
>>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
>
>i-is she right?
yes, but rationalists are too full of spooks to see this

RATIONALISTS ARE BRAINLETS

>>15478536
>i-is she right?
she is not right. she is wrong. philosophy is the best discipline in the world. philosophy is the best use of time.

>>15478590
>>15478538
You're going for a rather universal theoretical argument. A more practical way of stating it is that currently, for humans, we can't be sure about anything.

>>15478605
That's a far cry from the concrete statement that nothing can be proven. It's that explicit idea I'm criticizing (springboarding from a different thread to try to salvage this one) rather than ascribing any universal truth myself.

>>15478536
If nothing matters or means anything why the fuck do I give a fuck about her bitch opinion?

>>15478615
Far cry? Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. That statement is true for all intensive purposes.In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn’t take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It’s clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother’s mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

>>15478631
>doubles advocate
Not with those digits

>>15478637
try again, loser

>your "profound" misery is trying to flex your intelligence and you do that to compensate for other failings and it's making my pussy dry
>I have limited time before my tits and skin sag. I could be investing my time with someone who self actuates than self pities but I'm not quite hot enough to snag the 1% so instead I'll take my frustration out on you because you will take it

>>15478536

She sounds based

>>15478536
Women are always right anon

>>15478631
That doesn't even make sense. "Far cry" is used correctly there.

>>15478649
>being sexually attracted to the male body
Homosexual

>>15478536
Women are a chore. Thank goodness for 2D and ERPing with my fellow yiffers.

>>15478652
I thought that the redpilled position is that women fake it all

>>15478536
the entire thing rests on the idea that things we worry about is voluntary, it'd be like saying to a terminal cancer patient you're going to die anyway so stop worrying about it

>>15478536
>Meet woman
>Woman says stupid thing that men also say
>Post about it on /lit/
Stop it.

>>15478620
Thread should've ended here.

>>15478688
the truth is, everybody on /lit/ deeply cares about her opinion
even you, as you replied to this thread

>>15478693
I replied to this thread to give a man advice and try to improve the quality of the board.

>>15478688
>>15478693
>>15478698
The thread's existence is justified only by the only good advice in the thread, which is provided here: >>15478654

>>15478536
Don't lie on the internet, OP.

>>15478536
>can't think of a thread to make
>'philosophy is a waste of ti-' oh fuck I already made that thread...
>wait a sec
>'a GIRL said philosophy is a waste of time!'
>im a fucking genius

>>15478713
thanks, I'll try "my BF said" next that should raise a few eyebrows
any more ideas?

>>15478536
ANY FORM OF LANGUAGE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING
ANY PROBLEM IS A FALSE PROBLEM
ANY DISCUSSION IS BULLSHIT

NOW FUCK OFF AND NEVER ASK THIS AGAIN

>>15478730
I'm sorry, but I don't know if I understood you correctly

>>15478536
What an unfunny image, they really can't meme

>>15478756
>I thought memes were supposed to be FUNNY
>f-fuck woo-oo-men *sob*

>>15478773

Vaginal and unfunny, like the OP

>>15478713
Based response.

>>15478660
Women wanted to make men so hideous they could leech off their resources like they are doing today, but ended up attracted to werewolves and sasquatches.

>>15478536
So what she is saying is "Live, laugh, love".

>>15479058
It's nice to do those three, and a mantra may help one reach those states. Though I love sadness too much to leave it alone for too long. I don't cry, though. I just don't laugh like I used to.
You know the kind of sadness where you smile and it's not fake, nor is it a grimace? That kind of smile.

>>15478536
Philosophy has its place. It's a useful way to think about the nature of the world and humanities place in it. Where it stops being useful is where it cedes to pure sophistry or attempts to impose a singular view on the world. If you want solid unambiguous answers, you study scientific subjects. Philosophy, in the modern day, functions to explore questions that science can't answer, and that can't really be proven in any way shape or form. I think the problem with /lit/ (aside from the fact that philosophy is discussed her at all, which I'm not an advocate of) is that too many people see it as either some way to "answer the questions" of the universe, or as a way to come across as intelligent by referencing whatever meme philosopher they've latched onto.

>>15479109
*humanity's

>>15479109
>If you want solid unambiguous answers, you study scientific subjects.
Nothing more incorrect.

>>15479109
>functions to explore questions that science can't answer
such as?

>>15478536
A young, fresh and cherry STEM student walks into the halls of a sterile English department with his head held high. Stern and with a proud heave, he bellows through the cavern at the beanie-sporters scattered through the hall:

" WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER STUDY, HEATHENS? "

Seven fragrant dreadlocked beards spew coffee from their continental gullets. Free-range hens shuffle out a window somewhere.

" WORDS ON A PAGE OR THE FUCKING COSMOS? "

An emergency evacuation is called. Afghan clogs stuff the exit. Native tears are shed. A triad of cauldrons full to brim with boiling kamquat loose their bellies with a fever on the frantic patrons all around. The shelves are raided. Looters stuffing oriental knapsacks leave no kitsch untouched.

From the roaring depths of chaos in the halls, through sheets of stirring fire: calm and rigid comes up looming in the haze a stoic English professor, tailored suit to keen perfection, forty thousand pages full of Marx and further reading in an unstained palm.

Expressionless, with firm phenomenologic hold on mind and body, he whispers to the STEM student, currently engaged in evil laughter:

" What would you rather study, child? "

The student is hushed. Voiceless. The man has snared his subjectivity entirely.

" Nature - or the nature of nature? "

Of an instant all the place is silent. In the corner, captive underneath the groins of several existential theists, one brave soul begins to clap. Soon the place is flooded with cheer.

The next day, all sciences were cancelled nationwide. The shells of disenfranchised rockets sheltered lonely bohemians everywhere. All was well.

>>15479112
Yeah, true, I was probably oversimplifying things there. The answers aren't a sure thing in science either, but the discipline itself functions with the idea that there is an objective truth. Basically it tries to provide some stable frame of reference in a reality that is, at its root, unknowable.

>>15479116
Meaning and being, for example.

>>15478536
>it's pointless to worry about, just live your life, you won't be able to prove any philosophy
That's a pretty interesting philosophy.

>>15478600
this lifestyle is based. And who knows, maybe Mephisto will offer you a chance to relive your youth once you finally give up

>everything is meaningless
>life sucks
>who cares
Only self hating people say garbage like this. If you love yourself the world becomes a beautiful place and that spreads to everything involving other people as well. When I was a depressed asshole I would take walks in nature and feel nothing because I was too critical of everything to truly open my fucking eyes and see what was in front of me all along.

>>15478693
I dont

>>15479162
This. Live. Love. Laugh.

>>15479122
thank you Tommy

>>15479167
you sure proved your indifference with that reply

>>15478536
>>life is meaningless but who fucking cares you aren't the first to figure it out and not the last, worrying about death, afterlife, god or not god.
>>it's pointless to worry about, just live your life, you won't be able to prove any philosophy
That isn't philosophy lmao. That's pop phil.

>>15479133
if religion can answer those things then why do we need philosophy?

>philosophy can't be studied for personal enjoyment
Sounds like a pretty immature attitude for her to have.

>>15478600
this is unironically me, except I've learned now to commit to a project concretely

>>15479230
We can look at perspectives and compare them, turn things upside down and take a gander at them from a distance. We will find limits of science, and limits of religion.

>>15478536
Why does this board care so much for IQ? Every fucking day there’s a new thread for this meme.

Hint: you’re probably fucking retarded, and you don’t need a number to tell you that.

>>15478536
>caring about a woman's opinion on anything
>of a young inexperienced woman at that
Fag

>>15478538
"nothing" or "not everything"? If you can prove that nothing can be proved isn't that a contradiction?

>>15479372
Either a contradiction or a paradox, depending on your dogma. I lean towards the former.

>>15478600
its me

>>15479168

>>15478536
>i-is she right?
No

FUCK HER
stupid bitches they get everything handed to them, "oh look I am genetically a success, don't need to do anything but spread my legs and I have already completely eclipsed you as a human being" but here I am, a genetic dead end, trying to create something valuable, so that at least some vague echo of myself will survive, but mostly to just justify my own existence so I don't hang myself while this thot already has everything by just existing, the whole word acknowledges her value and even people on anonymous imageboards worship her literal ass, while I rot away in social isolation, every human contact a slap to my face, an axe to my psyche, a kick to my groin (which doesn't hurt btw as I have completely given up my sexual nature) fuck her, and fuck you for inevitably making fun of me, or for not even bothering to read this post, and most of all for agreeing with anything I say you fucking pseud

>>15478553
/thread

>woman has opinion

no, she's not right. she never is.

>>15478536
>>life is meaningless but who fucking
Anyone who casually uses swear words is a brainlet not worth talking to.

>>15478536
>i-is she right?
Who knows? However she seem quite philosophical.

She's right. But who cares, I like philosophy anyways.

>>15479122
good post

>>15478536
"Life is meaningless" Is the beginning of ones personal journey, not the end. Philosophy can be figured out by noting various aspects of reality and coming to certain conclusions about them/it. It wont always true, no human can be objectively truthful, after all. But if she wants to stunt herself by letting the petty grasp of nihilism define her outlook, that is her prerogative, not ours.

>>15478536
crazy hahahaha

how do you talk to girls btw? ahahaha

>>15478538
>proof

>>15478536
>just live your life
While we can talk of outsider art, there is no outsider man. Cooperative living is a consequence of the fact that our desires are of a like kind, and so in the nebulous overlap there is civility. Our desires repeat with predictable regularity. And the objects around us change slowly. Customs and habit at once express and shape this. The conformist knows the world but not themselves and in this way they are ruthless pragmatists. For a desire to spurred, you must comprehend the object. In this way a frog is less conflicted than a dog. If we think about concepts of justice, the superior person can appreciate what’s fashion. Because they can grasp the objects sufficiently and so also the desires spurred and situate these rightly. The ancients appreciated on this sort of ground that eudaimonia or happiness or right living isn’t for everyone. The refutation is one, but fashions are many. This is the basis of the supposedly antiquated ideas of caste, and is the foundation of any merit some forms of it might have. When a person who can’t distinguish fashion from refutation offers their opinions, it’s like this: If you host an exhibition of your paintings at a gallery, and a blind man comes and runs his hands over the painted canvases, then comes up to you and offers his opinions on their beauty, do you take him seriously?

>>15478536
>>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
this is unironically 100% accurate.

>>15478536
>it's pointless to worry about, just live your life
classic fem*id
live laugh love right?
fucking idiots i hate women. most think history is worthless cause "like, it already happened" that must be why they all make shit life decitions.
FUCK YOU. Dont listen to them.
Asides from that she is retarded cause she has a philosophy herself (a retared one) and yet negates philosophy...

not only is she wrong, but every single person on this board who agrees with any of the above points is a weak-minded womanish faggot

>>15479748
Itty bitty baby

>>15480065
crying about muh nihilism is peak pathetic emasculated bitch behavior. taking charge of life is masculine.your post is cope.

>>15478536
No because the problem isn't "society". It's people. People suck, and not even in ways we're conscious of. We get the world we resery and we don't deserve any better. Fuck "helping the community". That's nonsense. The actual situation is much more stupid and irredeemable

DONT LOOK UP 'GNOSTICISM'

>>15480083
>crying about muh nihilism is peak pathetic emasculated bitch behavior
yeah and i never did. reading comprehension, retard. I know MORAL values cant be proven and i still have moral values. And so does she, but she is too much of a retard to realise, and arrogant enough to believe "not having morals" make her smarter. pathetic indeed

>>15479749
If you're American. She just represents a basic bitch pragmatist.

>>15478536
Mostly, she's nihilist as nihilist mostly are.
Nihilists generally just stare into a wall because nothing matters but rather refuse to delude themselves to such an extreme degree that they think life has meaning and live as they have always done.

>>15478536
Yes

>>15478536
philosophy is for retarded fags.

Materialist utilitarian egalitarianism is the only true way my bros

>>15479143
reminds me of Daoism or Zen

>>15478536
She's a retard. Just ask her about her opinion on any topic like abortion. Does she have one? Congratulations, she's gained them through ethics, a field of philosophy.

>>15478536
>she says that philosophy is an objective waste of time in every regard.

I enjoy philosophy, so why would that be a waste of time, she's saying enjoyment is a waste of time, so we should all be unhappy then?

>>15480146
its disingenuous to criticize someone dissing philosophy for having a personal philosophy. with the usual definition of philosophy, it is impossible not to have a personal philosophy. the difference is she doesn't advocate obsessing over it like a pretentious pseud.

>>15478536
>All is arbitrariness? Well, as my arbitrariness compels me to strangle you, better hope that your arms are as strong as your words are convincing.

>>15478536
No, she's just developed a cope that seems sophisticated.

>>15478536
>statement statement statement statement statement statement statement statement
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH THIS IS NOT PHILOSOPHY GET THE FUCK OUT

>>15478536
Curating a personal ethic with knowledge you have about the world, and keeping it up-to-date is important and rewarding.

Being an edgy aspie constantly bombarding people with metaphysical questions and then explaining how shallow their thinking is and that you spend so much more time contemplating shit, is absolutely a waste of time.

The girl in question is right in all that except that it is a waste of time, death and the afterlife and god inform our base motivations and personal decisions. It's not an objective waste of time because a person who has never thought about consciousness or the motivations of life is more likely to live wastefully and be disrespectful. So it does make an objective difference at the very least.

>>15478600
Anon please put down that mirror

>>15478536
No, because she only convinces herself she's right by adhering to the feminist ethos, instead asking questions she judges somebody.
He never even brought up videogames, and she jumps to the conclusion that because he has disdain for the ebb and flow of the times he must hate that social commentary flavor characters are objectively a poor addition to any media. Maybe part of the society he hates is the constant bowing to media, and he hates videogames regardless.

She's just a judgemental bitch.

>>15478536
>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
this is real, check out Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil. The whole work is framed from the beginning with "Supposing truth is a woman, what then?" And I've seen too little attention to this aspect of the work. Ressentiment is a hell of a drug after you realized that active/reactive isn't just Nietzsche shifting over the old moral dichotomy

well you obviously don't care about philosophy either otherwise its value would be self-evident to you

>>15479122
based

>>15478600
yeah i can't relate to this one

>>15479122
In full honestly, I am moved to tears.

>>15478536
>get involved in your community
>ease the suffering of others
i hate women so god damned much

>so are most people
>world fucking sucks and it's coming to an end
Why is it always the most privileged shits that spout this bullshit? Like seriously

>>15478536
>philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
only a woman could think of something this stupid

>>15478536
>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
Based and Nietzsche-pilled.

>>15478536
>talking to a girl

Why?

Philosophy is the art of concept creation. It is something that humans do naturally. Without it we wouldn't have a frame of reference. So I don't think it's pointless in that context

>>15480969
>>15481047

>>15481080
pusy

>>15478536
>There is no truth
>Just live your life man
>Later... *dies*
>Burns in hell for all eternity because you took the advice of this hole
Listening to roasties, not even once

>>15478536
Thats one based broad

uhhhhh fuck women

>>15478536
>you should be a benefit to others, despite others being meaningless the same as you - except in practice others should outvalue you
>everything is meaningless but you can waste anything at all; implying a value hierarchy
>it's pointless to worry about
I agree. Worrying is stressful waiting, and you can do relaxed waiting as well.
>just live your life, you won't be able to prove any philosophy
Proof is unnecessary, unless you're insecure and scared of relative failure.
>you aren't supposed to be pretensious
>you aren't supposed to have your own biases and preferences
Ooof

>>15481448
based

>>15478536
>just stop worrying and everything will work out. just the other day I got invited on a luxury cruise with Chadmeht the Saudi prince, and it's crazy but all I did was upload a couple of my yoga videos to instagram you see it's all about having a good attitude and putting yourself out there
>now stop being so bleak and do something entertaining

>>15478536
>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences

This is basically dead on. It's astonishing the byzantine frameworks people develop to avoid admitting their pre-philosophic notions are just a not-totally-coherent jumble of prototypes they made up to handle day-to-day issues. Anything but that, there must be some outrageously complicated unifying principle that explains why I think everything I already do.

>>15480192
>philosophy is for retarded fags.
>and this philosophy is the only true one

>>15481714

There's a cartoon somewhere which makes the same point, caption (my paraphrase): How philosophers arrive at their theories, philosopher (speech bubble, same): "I think that the following is true, because if it were not, then that would make me sad." I haven't quite done it justice but that was the thrust of it.

>>15481571
>you aren't supposed to be pretensious
>you aren't supposed to have your own biases and preferences

It's not that you aren't supposed to have biases, and preferences, it's that it's intellectually dishonest and a colossal waste of time to pretend that you developed them based on serious inquiry into the nature of logic and the universe, if you didn't. Very few fit the theory to the observation, and instead warp logic and cherrypick observations to lead (shakily) to a pre-determined conclusion.

>>in fact philosophy is just a pretentious way of defending/explaining your own personal biases and preferences
n-no give me one more chance! women can't keep getting away with this

>>15478536
Just hit her with a “How do you know that?” and questtion her approach to that conclusion, which is obviously neither logical, nor empirically informed. Ironically, it’s her own bias and preference. But you need not merely assert it when you could easily prove it.

>>15481714
>>15481745
Stop pussyfooting around it and just read Heidegger already.

>>15482110
literal sophistry
instead on focusing on winning arguments, focus on being honest with yourself

>>15482133
You're presupposing that being honest with yourself leads to the perspective of the girl described in the OP, but you haven't explained how.

Getting involved in your community for roasties like this is signing an online petition

>>15482133
How do you know im not being honest with myself?
Plus you seem in the dark about what constitutes as sophistry. A basic def of it puts it as “a fallacious argument meant to deceive”, yet the point of the method above is exactly to expose the fallacious argument the girl made. She has no proof nor evidence and most likely not even a methdology for her conclusion. To question it is the opposite of sophistry.

>>15482153
simple: you want her to be wrong, and you will tie yourself in logical knots to prove it if you have to
even now, you're frantically thinking of a response, any place to drive in your blade of "reason", any way to justify yourself
are you really so insecure? hell, of course you are, you've been baited into posting in this thread
>>15482166
basic def? did you just google what it means? learn your history, as in why was it considered a different discipline from philosophy i.e. that it (over time) became concerned mostly with rhetoric and public speaking

>>15482202
I asked you why you think she's right..

>>15482202
>learn your history, as in why was it considered a different discipline from philosophy i.e. that it (over time) became concerned mostly with rhetoric and public speaking
I believe you’re being dishonest here. Since clearly you meant sophistry in its negative character otherwise what value does calling my comment sophistry? Plus the most generlaly used concept of is in its negative character such as Socrates vs the Sophists.

>>15478536
Saying life is meaningless is already a (really) pretentious way of defending/explainig her own personal biases and preferences.

>>15478536

There is plenty of provable philosophy. She's just a retard.

>>15478536
Sounds quite based tbqh

>>15478536
Imagine if a woman said “honestly dude” before lecturing you. I would turn 360 degrees and walk away

>>15478536
Philosophy is a gigantic waste of time, yes.

>>15478536
>talking to a girl, she says that philosophy is an objective waste of time in every regard.
The conversation should've stopped right there and you should have fucked her in the mouth.

>>15478536
Yes and no. What's she is saying in itself is a philosophy of optimistic nihlism, and while she has a point to the extent that we shouldn't dwell on sadness, her entire point is hypocritical.
There is nothing wrong with seeking the answers to your life, especially if it makes you feel stronger or educates you, but there is an issue with not caring and giving up, because by coming to that conclusion you chosen to accept a dead end.
Do what you want, explore morality, just try not to hit dead ends.

>>15478536
>>talking to a girl, she says that philosophy is an objective waste of time in every regard.
this is the part where you say "that's right baby girl" and then you get her drunk and put it in her ass

>>15478620
most of /lit/ is too brainlet to know that this sentence right here annihilates post modernism and empiricism

this is a retarded thread that isn't related to literature. fuck off

>>15485235
Many literature discusses philosophy. Either you have a piece to share or leave it.

>>15485212
you sound uneducated. do you actually think philosophers just forgot about this idea or decided to ignore it? what a shallow unread take

>>15483526
>There is plenty of provable philosophy.
Huh? Name one (1).

Why do people who believe that life is meaningless spend so much time talking about what the objectively best way to live life is?

>>15485472
They forgot f buddhism, bro.

"Every journey start with the first step."

Not the thought or whatever.

>>15479058
No, she’s saying live. She’s telling you not to worry about philosophy, do not worry about what is right and wrong, good and bad, do not worry about what is true or false. What you’re left with is your own creative goals, what you want, and no amount of doing ‘wrong’ shall stop you, but instead use any means to find that goal. Do not bother with finding the truth of the goal, or the truth of everything surrounding it, simply attempt it with all your power. Your goal is not to do good, avoid bad, that’s only what the philosopher says

>>15479308
i'm happy for you, anon. i'm not quite there yet.

>>15485508
this is just setting yourself up to be a rat in someone else's plans set out before you were born

>Philosophy is useless.
Ah, but you came to this conclusion via philosophy, m'lady ;)

>>15478536
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>>15478536
No female said this.

No female could ever comprehend something like this

>>15478538
>>15478546
>>15478554

To seek a proof for the Principle of Sufficient Reason, is, moreover, an especially flagrant absurdity, which shows a want of reflection. Every proof is a demonstration of the reason for a judgment which has been pronounced, and which receives the predicate true in virtue precisely of that demonstration. This necessity for a reason is exactly what the Principle of Sufficient Reason expresses. Now if we require a proof of it, or, in other words, a demonstration of its reason, we thereby already assume it to be true, nay, we found our demand precisely upon that assumption, and thus we find ourselves involved in the circle of exacting a proof of our right to exact a proof.

I recently sort of reconnected with a qt I met at uni a few years ago who was just a part of a group I ran with for a while. She's kind of debauched and shit, but somehow I managed to rant about Jacques Ellul to her for like 2 hours and when I was done she said that she agrees and since then, she's been asking me questions about philosophy all the time and like lamenting that she can't change her life to be more restrained from worldly and consumerist desires. She treats me with like a weird amount of respect too, with her treating everything I say as an absolute truth. What is going on here?

>>15485117
>optimistic nihilism
That's a great way to say "I live my life like everyone else and I have morals and values and conform to society subconciously but whenever I feel bad about something, and especially guilty, I just say that nothing matters and feel good again because being happy is important"

>>15478536
Philosophy is escapism for me.

>>15478536
I think philosophical reasoning has merit because it points to Christ.

>>15488479
>philosophical reasoning has merit because it confirms my world view

>>15487059
Based "On The Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason" poster

>>15487078
Bugmen btfo

>>15489540
cope

>>15478554
It's kinda tautological.

>>15489610
Where's the cope faggot

>>15487057
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
/POL/ BTFO BY THAT ONE
AHAHAHA

Nihilism is the most logical position for one to hold.

A society killing people who believe or promote nihilism is also the most logical position for it to take.