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Why does /lit/ love Taleb now?

>> No.15475287

>>15474515
Because of his monumental book- Muqaddimah.

>> No.15475302

>>15474515
/lit/ doesn't
Taleb is gay

>> No.15475347

>>15474515
He’s an obnoxious buffoon and his writing style needs an editor.

>> No.15475396

>>15474515
he is relentlessly handsome

>> No.15475409

>>15474515
I don't see how anything he talks about has any relationship to the humanities. It doesn't even have philosophical implications. He's a decent mathematician and investor, that's it. I think he is educated. Issue is his personality cult, but to his credit, other public "intellectuals" like Sam Harris have a more annoying personality cult.

>> No.15475417

our IQ is just that high

>> No.15475421

Taleb is one of the most important thinkers of our time.

>> No.15475437

>>15474515
We dont, its just the one gut (aka you) who keeps spamming him on and off.

>> No.15475448

>>15474515
Taleb is a self-hating Arab like all other cringey Lebos living in western countries who claim to be Phoenicians or “white” while looking like Jafar bin Jafar. I’m curious to know how will Lebos adapt when In 30/50 years China is the world’s superpower and not the US. Will they claim to be descendants of the Han Chinese? I bet they will.

>> No.15475450

I'm doing it ironically

>> No.15475676

>>15475396
It's the lifting.

>> No.15475699

>>15475448
Even Ibn Khaldun said they're not the same as Bedouins. Bedouins are really like the only true Arabs.

>> No.15475754

3612%

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/taleb-advised-universa-tail-risk-fund-returned-3-600-in-march

>> No.15475774

>>15475409
>I don't see how anything he talks about has any relationship to the humanities. It doesn't even have philosophical implications.
t. actual moron

>> No.15475776

>>15475754
Based Arabian investment strategies.

>> No.15475783

>>15475774
Explain how it has philosophical relevance, and I will explain why not.

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>>15475754
>tfw not rich enough for Universa

>> No.15475813

Because he's nash pravoslavniy brat vo Hriste.

>> No.15475820

>>15475448
Honestly he looks more gulf arab then a lot of levantines. His nose especially is not levantine at all. He could easily fit in at a khashogi family reuinion. Which makes his whole character even funnier.

>>15475699
I'll never understand this whole arabs = bedouin thing. There have been urbanized arabs from Egypt to Northern Syria since ancient times. Arabs were even heavily represented in the Roman political system (Phillip the Arab among others). A lot of (not all) of the modern "I'm not an Arab, I'm (some ancient civilization)" comes from backlash towards Islam, and a very clever Colonial strategy by the French. (See the Berberist Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berberism))

Also the whole genetics argument really is invalid because the MENA has basically been a toilet bowl for genetics due to the prevalence of sex slavery and rape over the past 1500 years. You often see somebody from Morroco with much more in common genetically with somebody from Syria then anybody else in Morroco.

>> No.15475821

>>15475783
His most salient contribution is the identification of cognitive bias in the assessment of post-productive economies.

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>>15475785

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>>15475813

>> No.15475907

>>15475820
>Also the whole genetics argument really is invalid
Not really when 1) we have ancient genetic samples from the region dating to both Chalcolithic and Iron Age times, and 2) we can compare one's genetic distance to these samples on PCA autosomal DNA plots, which covers the whole genome.

>> No.15475977

>>15475907
True but from some of the genetic studies I have seen it seems that the only communities with consistent results that prove relation to these ancient sample are the more insulated communities of the region. Groups like Druze, Copts, and Assyrian. Not even like 10% of the MENA. Meanwhile there is no such consistencies among the majority population of the region Sunni Muslims. Which is why the Arab identity caught on. Shared cultural and religious value. Also it allows Sunnis to bask in the glory of past empires. It is an identity that I think matches with the European Identity.

I can see how people like Nassim Taleb, a Christian, hates that identity. It leaves his group out and leaves them in a weaker position.

>> No.15476026

>>15475977
Iranians/Persians too. We have only two Iron Age samples from Iran, Hajji-Firuz-IA and Teppe-Hasanlu-IA, which many modern-day Iranians cluster with.

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>>15476026
I don't really know much about Persians or Iran, but according to this it seems Modern Iranians are further from ancient Persians then modern "West Asians" whatever the fuck that is compared to Near Eastern.

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>>15476049
That's the sample from Teppe Hasanlu, which may have been Hurrian or Mitanni, but it's still close to Persians. The one from Hajji Firuz was most likely an Achaemenid though. You can use nMonte to compare distance.
It's still pretty close.

>> No.15476104

>>15476049
>>15476088
Circle is contemporary Iranians. The Hajji-Firuz-IA sample clusters with them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f740_B13UU

>> No.15476108

>>15474515
Taleb is this generation's McLuhan, though probably somewhat less compelling... after all, what good is "antifragility" or "skin in the game" nowadays? These are more important as virtue signals in the Twitter shitstorm, that is to say, as symbols, totems, rather than distinct, fixed concepts. Taleb himself has been lost to the Twitter maelstrom--he will live to see his own work become redundant, since he fixed it in an old medium, e.g., print. All mottos, all choice phrases will yield to a new mythology. Even aphorisms (Taleb's "Bed of Procrustes") will go out of style. These latter are too individual, too personal. The important thing, as one can already see, is viral potency. The measure for the values of tomorrow must be made according to their miasmal power, not according to any logic or objectivity. Or, put in another way, the usefulness of terms, of symbols, of pronouns must be measured according to their capacity for inducing submission, or for their propensity for charming, bewildering, or silencing. Words, literacy will become like swords, like weapons in general, and must be measured according to their context in conflict. Twitter is little more than a battlefield, yielding petty victories. What is won? What is conquered? The only result is the manifestation of cults. The cult, by definition, is that which establishes a new orientation, an arbitrary orientation. Already in Taleb there is a pervading violence, an unchecked aggression. He always had a villain in view--and this, more than any of his ideas, is what gives him his Twitter persona. His followers gravitate towards his combative nature, rather than his intelligence. He is, deep down, a mild, passionate being, just like his followers. That is why he is inferior to McLuhan, who yielded less to passion and maintained a perspicacious disinterestedness.

As to the matter of the OP--it should be obvious: 4chan loves violence--it invented Internet violence. Therefore, as Taleb sinks deeper into the fray of Internet rivalry (the new folk atmosphere, altogether unique against the privacy, the solitude of literature, which bore Taleb's intellectual progeny, and most certainly not his more recent persona and celebrity, his "tactics," which he owes to the electric medium) he becomes more compelling to the vapid tomfoolery and deep irony of 4chan.

>> No.15476527

>>15474515
because /lit/ loves arabs
>am I doing it right?
>>15475754
Fuck even Buffett and Dalio couldn't get those numbers. I haven't seen a 10 year average though.

>> No.15476568

>>15476527
>/lit/ loves arabs
Correct.

>> No.15476620

Would Taleb attribute everything that has happened so far in 2020 to randomness?

>> No.15476635

>>15476108
good and thoughtful take anon

>> No.15476682

>>15476620
He hasn't chimed in on every major event this year. But as for his coronavirus take: he says it was a white swan event because governments saw it coming and had ample time to prepare but didn't.

>> No.15476712

>>15476682
>but didn't
What like, Angola?

>> No.15478571

>>15474515
the extent he goes to to prove he's not arab, probably means he's arab

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>>15476620
No he would attribute it to gross incompetence and bureaucratic fuckery and blast the "IYIs neglecting tail risk". In fact last year he took issue with pic related since he felt it failed to take into account fat tail risks (i.e. if you have heart disease, it's non contagious, you can't pass it on to others, unlike covid-19). And don't forget there's a passage in Fooled by Randomness I think where he warns that increased air travel will make the chance of a global pandemic more likely.