/lit/ - Literature

>>15470476
Just go to the coffee shop

>>15470476
>Are books about how to approach and get girls considered /lit/?
No. Soberly cold approaching women is retarded mutt behaviour.

>>15470476
just be tall bro

>>15470493
I'm tall (6'4) but due to my autism I've never held a woman's hand (I tried).

>>15470476
Read "the game" and then "mystery method"

>>15470580
I've read them both, MM is cool, the Game was basically MM 2.0. Anyway OP stop watching porn and leave 4chan for a bit, reading books won't help you with girls.

>>15470476
i got approached in hs and been with that person since
cant imagine having it any other way, no way id make a move by my own will

>>15470491
It’s more retarded on the basis of what kinda retarded bitch would even appeal to that

1. dont go for approachable women they are not wife material and therefore worth your commitment
2. dont go for those who wear yoga pants

You'll only get pua or some other shitty cope books which just virgins eat up.
Just be aesthetically pleasing, rich and a "decent person" (from normie perspective). And you'll be fine.

>>15470498
Try holding their heads instead it's easier on your back lmao

>>15470580
>>15470595
both of them are true and also socialize more with your parents friends peers coworkers or classmates
p.s even some free pua material and approaching women will help

>>15470476
Yoga pants are the quickest way to spot a whore

>>15470668
he is asking how to perform specific mating rituals to attract a reproductive partner

>>15470491
It works in places like New York, in general though, no.

>>15470491
I've never heard of a guy in real life successfully picking up a woman from cold approaching anyway. Depends on your country i guess, but talking to random strangers doesn't happen much here.

>>15470476

Don't waste your money with this, bs. I bought some of this stuff to "protect myself" and it is mostly garbage. Probably it has some placebo effect and turn on the "I'm going in" permanently, then you end up not caring and cold approaching numerous women until it works. Then you say that it was the book, imagine being a pussy slave. The guy is literally studying to work on the street and receive pussy as payment. Not even some real love.

Use some app and put what you are looking for straight up. Like I'm a nerd, enjoy reading and some other bs you do, looking for a gf.

Plus the common sense things like grooming yourself. Honestly, anon. Most guys in here should do some therapy. Self image issues can fuck up a persons life.

>>15470649

>#2

This. Absolutely this. Every time I see women wearing them I want to fucking stab my eyes out

>>15470476
Bang and Day Bang by Daryush Valizadeh
Attraction Formula by Paul Janka

>>15470476
You dont get muscles by reading books about anatomy. You dont get pussy by reading books about women. Theory is overrated. If you want to get a gf you have to socialise, you will get better at it eventually. Even socialising with other men helps you overcome autism (as long as it is a diverse group and not your DnD faggot friends that you had for 10 years). I am an eternal STEM fag and I currently have like 4 friends. I just accepted that I will have to import a third world wife some day. Clubs are a meme. Normal people dont get girlfriends or sex in clubs. Normal people get their gf from their circle of friends. Been to many clubs, techno, hip hop etc. Trust me, almost nobody there approaches girls, it is a hollywood lie. When I tried pick up I was basically the only one in 200 people doing that. I had some succes doing it as well. But I was alone so it is extra hard to do it. I tried it like 3 times and my succes rate was decent. But actually getting something beyond dancing or a kiss out of it.... You need charisma on 100 to do that. When you are alone you cant fall back on friends to keep her and her friends entertained etc. Also you have to go every weekend, always have the courage and energy and the money for that shit. It feels like work with shitty pay. It works for some people but those are the top 1% in charisma and looks. There were times when my social circle was bigger and that shit is auto-mode. If your circle is just big enough there will be atleast 1 girl who has a crush on you. Sadly I will never have a social circle like that again, that was when I studied economics. Now I went STEM and will stay STEM. My work will be excel sheets and nu-male collegues. There is absolutely no hope now

>>15470476
How would you feel if your gf went around town practically naked, everyone staring and taking video/pictures?

>>15470476

What a couple of posers. Relationships like this are the most insecure, they'll hate each others guts within a year.

>>15470986
>Sadly I will never have a social circle like that again, that was when I studied economics. Now I went STEM and will stay STEM. My work will be excel sheets and nu-male collegues. There is absolutely no hope now
kek

>>15470986
What fuck are you talking about? As an econ bs I can tell you everyone I know from my major was an econ/politics nerd who now does statistical analysis and excel spreadsheets all day.

Just get tinder and start fucking art-hoes.

>tfw just turned 24 and never had my dick touched
I don't get what I did wrong. I'm /fit/, good looking, have plenty of male friends, have a good sounds job that makes me decent money. Now I'm out of college and I have no idea how to meet girls. I tried Tinder and Bumble but they both went nowhere

>>15471031
the major is 50:50 gender wise. Also people there are much less retarded than CompSci faggots

>>15471191
Idk what kind of school you go to but I went to a fairly decent one and if was almost all men and half of them were Chinese. I have a hard time believing that a major with calculus requirements is 50% women lmao

>>15471054
you're not alone man

>>15470986
this is true
lookism is so big now because there's almost 0 ways to organically interact with women, in which case at least someone in your circle would have a crush on you because she just kinda liked something on you despite your suboptimal height, and you'd be interacting often in that circle so you'd get to know each other without awkwardness and shitty cold approaches or whatever other cope. but all this doesn't exist now, you have high school and the first couple years of college to get to know people and then it's over.

>>15471054
see >>15471246
what i just wrote
there's nothing wrong with you, i see more and more people like this every day. modern society has left us absolutely zero ways to organically interact with each other. the people that got lucky and were at the right time in the right place to get into a good social group are just that: lucky. and they will soon become the minority. they laugh at people who weren't as lucky as them, but their kids will become like the people they laughed at.

>>15470929
Same in Bongland.

>>15471054

you need to stop fapping for 30 days in a row

by the 10th day you will have met someone worth talking to

instead of fapping, give her you attention in txt messages

by the 20th day you'll have kissed

and by the 30th day you'll have had sex

>>15470476
>must obtain flesh bag to copulate with and feel goody like pic related, ask Liberian literature board, <<is x /lit/>>
Try reddit if you want people to condone this pathetic behavior. Imagine not already having had several women. Imagine not realizing that the biggest spook of all is being impelled and controlled by a biological prerogative. Imagine not wanting to quit sex and masturbation. Never going to make it, ever.

>>15471283
nofap may just be the most retarded of all reddit retardations.

>>15471283
Abstaining from masturbation lowers sex drive after a few days.

>>15471216
In germany it is I believe even slightly more than 50% female. Economics is a total meme in germany, the BS is a joke and the calculus is high school level. Dont know what it is like in the states but here for CompSci calculus is math major level (no girls allowed). In econ I have been invited to more house parties than ever before in my life and those people mixed. Sometimes we were with psych majors sometimes with law majors sometimes with film and art majors (top notch girls). In CompSci people barely even mix with eachother let alone with other majors. There are some hyperintelligent russian chicks and some rich asian girls, that is it (the major is about 5% female). I fucking hate the people I work with but I grew up poor and financial stability is my number 1 priority and in this country econ is a weak major.

>>15471288

it's true

i was a virgin no gf til age 18

pulled off a herculean feat of not fapping for four weeks and by the 28th day i had sex

she was a chubby lass, without even the tits to make up for it, but it was a start

8 years later and now i've poked some of the dopest pussy you'll ever smoke

thanks nofap

99% of men live to compete for women' attention, irrespective of the moral behavior fo those women.
Women give meaning to men'lives. men seek to be valued by women at all cost.

All those men are cuckold sooner or later. As soon as a man values a woman, he will be cuckold. SOciety is based on men being disposable and replaceable by women & ruling men. A woman has no problem replacing a lover, a husband or a father, especially when she does it ''for the kids'', as opposed to doing it for ''her'', which would be selfish from their POV.

1% of men try to find something else to value
99% of this 1% go crazy in the woods becoming hermits and failing hard

the 1% of the 1% get good at meditation

99% of those 1% of 1% confuse meditation with enlightenment

so 1% of 1% of 1% of men actually stop being coomers.

cold approaches suck and will more than likely lead to humiliation which will likely cripple your esteem unless youre a based retard that doesnt care
the classic way of gauging interest is simply repeated eye contact, glancing, and smiling. once you both make eye contact for the third or so time, you smile, and she blushes, you’re cleared to approach her — she has already signaled physical interest, so you have the benefit of that behind you

>>15471297

yes. exactly. men inundate women with sexual advances and feelings all the time. but not in a good way. women are attracted to men who are simultaneously capable of giving them attention without becoming immediately lewd. it's like meeting a unicorn for them.

tinder is amazingly easy once you realise all you have to do is have a conversation with a woman for 3 days without saying a dirty word and she'll go out on a date with you. and if you can get through the first date again without making any advances, she'll probably be willing to make out with you on the second and have sex on the third.

>>15471307
kek

>>15471307
cringe and cumbrained. ngmi

>>15471345

>ngmi

i already made it
cope harder

>>15471330
LITERALLY ME

>>15471352
You actually haven't. You're just coping and pretending that biological imperative is somehow an accomplishment.

>>15471301
Ah see im in America so anything even slightly math related has no women at all and is swarmed with Chinese and pajeets. What youre describing sounds like what business majors are like.

>>15471260
60-70% of my friends are chronically single as well so I know its fairly prevalent.

>>15471283
I did nofap once for like a month and it was a load of crap, I didn't feel any different my balls just hurt.

Try being 29 almost 30 and never had one. It's painful

>>15471246
cold approach is absolute cope. I knew some very succesful people and even they did not get girls in clubs or on the street. They organised get-togethers with friends, had small intimate parties etc. I only know 1 dude who got all the pussy he ever had through cold approach and he is a huge exception. He is a sociopath and incredibly charismatic (ugly as sin as well). This guy slayed. But again he is an absolute anomaly and I could not ever use his strategies. Despite me now barely having a social life, I have had a lot of experience. I hung out with cocain sniffing street rats (really nice people, no joke), absolute nerds, rich kids, hippies and lefty art majors (insufferable cunts). All have in common that if they had a gf it was through friends, except for some of the coke guys. My relationships are always short lived and die due to life circumstances. The only ones that always survive are my nerd friends (not my favourites). Now I do not see any opening to new circles. As I said STEM is set in stone. In germany you can legally get prostitutes though. I will be hitting that soon for training and that oxytocin which can carry you for a month

>>15471397

lol that's literally the subject of the thread, autismo

No. I read a bunch of these red pill and manosphere pickup books when I was young and stupid. I’m older now and confidently say it was pretty cringe and waste of time. I should’ve just been having a full on emotional/existential crisis like the other outcast kids. The only book I think had any value in retrospect was Corey Wayne’s How to Be A 3% Man and even then I’d take it with at least a few grains of salt. I guess if you’re really struggling you could read that, but if you’re really struggling it’s most likely that your issue isn’t something that would be fixed simply by reading some dating books. Of course, there’s also the issue of age. I felt like a total social retard when I was younger. By the time I was 25, I just stopped caring and things got easier. If you find value in it, then fine but whatever you do don’t go deep down the pickup/dating rabbit hole unless you’re extremely extremely desperate. It’s kind of cringe and pathetic in its own right even if it works. The biggest red pill you’ll ever stumble across is that no book will ever be able to give you a playbook on your life or how to be in it. You simply need to be in the world and do things.

>>15471484

explain how it was a load of crap? how did you replace your time? did you pay attention to the responses of others in your social interactions during this time? were you talking to people?

nofap is the buff. you still have to exert some effort. but if you have the nofap buff, your aura will be blessed and received with gratitude, instead of your presence giving people creeps

>>15470476
What will attract women to you is competence. Be good at something in the vicinity of women and you've found your way in. The next stage is not to be verbally retarded.

>>15470476

overrated. you're better off in you're solitude.

>>15470476
>Models by Maec Manson
Thank me later. Its the only book you will ever need on the topic. Its not PUA shit, it simply teaches you how to be invested in yourself and with that you become attractive to chicks. It was a total eyeopener for me and explained my entire shitty history with girls when i was younger.

>>15470476
The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

Read Game by Roosh.

I did it and lost my v card at 24, ended up being in an 8 month relationship due to it.
The cliché is really true, it's all about confidence but of course someone without it don't know how to act like they have it.
So that book is good at projecting that. I also had help from the roosh forum before it got purged of degeneracy.

>>15471538
The fuck do you mean "replace my time"? I'm not some NEET coomer, before nofap I generally jerked of every couple of days for a few minutes and thats what I went back to afterwards. The cumulative 20 or 30 extra minutes of free time in my week didn't change my life. I already had hobbies like fishing and surfing before that, I already had tons of friends that I do shit with. All nofap did was make my crotch feel like it was on fire for a couple weeks

>>15471722
post one aphorism that you would not know anyway.

>>15471743
Something that helps you be more attractive is projecting the idea that you can have other options, this girl isn't the end all be all.
Which is hard when you're a virgin, because it is a big deal to you. Now I project that but when I didn't I learned some tricks. I can't remember them off the top of my head but with texting it shows a lot.

>>15470476
No book will “teach” you how to get girls. The fact you have to find a book for this means that the way you are living isn’t right. This doesn’t mean you’re hopeless. It just means you will have to change yourself.

But you can’t change yourself for another person or you will be like a fake person or a robot. You have to become the person you want to be. So determine what your issues are, are you anxious, depressed, negative self-image, unable to hold a conversation? And fix it. When I was depressed I blamed loneliness for how I felt but my depression was the issue and women didn’t like my energy since it was so dull usually.

If you have to read a book, check out models. But you have to see that you aren’t missing knowledge. You just need to change the way you are living. There’s no secret recipe for getting girls. It happens naturally for most people. Just as natural as anything else, like a conversation

>>15471738

So you didn't change your behaviour at all?

Fapping is scientifically proven to dull the part of your brain that responds to 'long-term rewards by delaying short term gratification'. In other words, by masturbating, you're sapping your brain of all the neuro-hormones that allow you to be motivated to engage in activities that are beneficial to you in the long term. Even if you jerk off once every couple days, the effect it has on your ability to delay gratification in other areas of life is profound.

Coomers will always choose the most fatty, salty, sugary foods. They'll watch Youtube and play video games, and sit on 4chan, instead of reading books or developing other hobbies.

But nofap also refreshes your aura and makes you more sensitive to other people's feelings. And people's receptivity to you is improved because their deep limbic system (the mammal part of the central nervous system) senses your mind is at a good level.

First, don't fap. Second, go out and socialise. Third, pick a woman who you meet, and use your newfound aura and long-term courage to talk to this person over a medium term.

Having a romantic life is that easy.

>>15471743
>>15471764
And it just came to mind that during the first date he had the very clear tip of having had touched the girl.
The way I did it was by pretending to be interested in her watch, after which I touched her arm and looked at it.

This was something I did not know about, if she doesn't hesitate or flinch away from you it's a clear sign you're on your way.

Another one is being very clear about your intentions, people with little experience are afraid to take the lead but as a man you must.

>>15471791
>muh precious bodily fluids

>>15471054
>I don't get what I did wrong.

Being born too late. It's harder nowadays, girls go for the 1% and 1% only.

Everyone else has no chance but scraps.

>>15471791
This is just an atheistic religion at this point. I did no fap and I did full coomer. Nothing changed eitherway. I always went to gym and read books. When I did no fap I went to gym, read books and my balls hurt. No fap doesnt do shit. Also after 3 weeks my sex drive was almost completely gone which fealt unhealthy as fuck.

>>15470476
>Kissing an immodest thot in public who blew 20 other guys with that mouth.

>>15471333
Elaborate on how to do that and not register as a friend in her mind. My approach is to be more heavy handed with sexual remarks but serious as a character. I pay attention to making my intentions clear

>>15471333
>>15471828
>conversations on tinder
I say hi and then immediately ask for their phone number and set up a date 2/3 days later.

>approaching girls
CRINGE! Don't you know that you should never approach girls in public and only admire them from afar and write poems about how they are your muse and canonize them into the most important book ever written in your country?! What kind of a faggot actually goes up to a girl and says 'uh hey yeah do you wanna like go out on a date with me and we can like hold hands in a coffee shop and have sex and i'll never ever immortalize you into the wsestern canon' CRINGE! Oh my god SO CRINGE, BRUH! Imagine going up to girls and saying 'hey i wanna simp for you plese let me be your widdle simpy wimpy poo and worship your feet' SO CRINGE!

>>15471791
I don't have problems with any of that. Im /fit/ and I eat healthy. I have hobbies I've cultivated over years. I read and write in my spare time. I'm working on entrepreneurial projects with some friends. I have a full time salaried job that pays me well. I was doing all of this before i tried nofap and I'm still doing all of it afterwards. Under normal circumstances I do things with my friends every weekend. Last weekend I went on a 12 mile hike with a group, this weekend ill probably go to the beach with some of them. Your sitting here telling me to not touch my dick for a month because it'll make me stop eating chips and go outside, I have abs and I go outside to do things every weekend

>>15471807
Thats not true at all, most men I know have almost always been single but the ones who aren't are pretty random and the girls their with are equally random in appearance. Its just blind luck

>>15471828

You're literally on Tinder. It's not Friender. Women are not as autistic as men. You do not need to say "I want to date you, not be friends" on a dating app for women to understand that the implicit reason for your communication is the hope of a romantic relation. But they are on red alert for people who are only interested in a purely sexual toxic relation. Be normal. Always ask questions. The questions should imply that you are trying to find ways in which the two of you are genuinely compatible. But don't be like robotic about it. Have fun. Be excited if there is a genuine shared interest. Just don't make a simple compatibility a ground for saying she's the one or she'll sense the desperation.

Sorry. Lots of information but really it's just about being authentic (true to yourself) and not being gross and overly sexual. If you get along for two weeks with a woman without talking about sex, she will almost always be ready to have sex with you.

If you matched on Tinder, she already finds you physically attractive enough to date (if your pics were genuine). All that's left is to see if your personalities click enough for you to be worth her time dating. If they're not, they weren't from the beginning, and no dumb PUA attempts at manipulation would have changed that.

>>15471881

You sound pretty well adjusted then.

Do you have a problem with dating?

>>15471923

> If you get along for two weeks with a woman without talking about sex, she will almost always be ready to have sex with you.

Sorry, should note this includes at least two physical dates. If you want to have a 100% hit rate, do not ever try to sleep with someone on the first date. Probably not even kiss, unless there was like obvious super chemistry.

The first date from an online dating app is always just to test to see if you're sane and not going to kill her. Get through the first date without betraying any sexual intention*, and she will walk away thinking "wow, I finally met a really nice guy" and her feelings for you will start to blossom over the next few days. By the end of the second date, if you kiss her, she'll be totally receptive.

>>15471935
I was oblivious to it in high school and early college and by the time I figured out what to do I had no easy access to girls. My first date ever was senior year of college. The few girls I went on dates with at that point I always fucked it up by spilling my spaghetti because obviously I didn't know what I was doing. Now I'm 24 and I have no interaction with girls my age in my day to day life. My company is all boomers, my friends are all single men, my hobbies are all male dominated, etc. The sparse dates I'm able to find through shear luck always expect me to be super experienced because I'm decent looking and have my shit together but I've never gotten farther than making out with a girl and it becomes obvious that I don't really have any romantic experience at all.

>>15471984
you are just like me. There is no way out. People just dont meet anymore. There is no community. Those who already have their circles are closed and those who dont cope with online interactions. The internet was a mistake

>>15471984

Well this explains part of the apparent failure of the nofap regiment for your case then. Other single men are not really sensitive to these subtle psychic changes. And if you're otherwise just living a quite regular routine, you probably wouldn't notice the change either.

But OK, that aside, yeah, tough case. I'd say you could turn your experience to advantage if you are willing to be really modest and open about your lack of experience with a woman. Do the best impression of an innocent person who would be really grateful and committed to the a woman who would give you the time. If you are consistent enough, someone is going to fall for it and roll the dice on you. Nofap will help with the 'innocent aura' part, just fyi.

But the lack of social networks is an obstacle that requires a different solution, yeah, I see the issue now. Tough one. Honestly? Try joining a church or political organisation. Or maybe a dancing class. In some way or another, you need to find an social hobby which women are interested in and attend. If you run nofap while participating there, then I guarantee you'll slay it.

Or your money back.

>>15472022
>subtle psychic changes
kek, seek help

>>15471984
You sound like me: >>15471722

I never tried to date women till I was 24 even though I did get some attention from them at certain points. Also you sound like you have more friends than me which works in your favour.

Not sure how you spill your spaghetti though so can't say what you're doing wrong.

>>15471821
You pussy that's why

>>15470936
>I bought some of this stuff to "protect myself" and it is mostly garbage
wtf
post tits

>>15472024

psychic is shorthand for 'linguistic behaviours that betray the deeper preoccupations of your mind'.

Cumbrain has a smell. Women have strong noses.

I'm trying to help you people.

>>15472064
You're the one giving off weird vibes, weirdo.

Op i know it can be hard with autism but don't listen to these books. They are designed to prey on you when you feel weak so you think you can get out of the virgin bubble. Im not sure what your standards are in a GF but if they are at least a whole digit above you (Your attractiveness as a whole, physically and personality wise out of ten) on the scale you may need to keep searching. I know you have been waiting a long time but don't try and rush into them becoming your gf, go on dates from like tinder or something, maybe say something about how you have autism in the initial bio so you can weed out people faster. Good luck anon

kill yourself or go to >>>/r9k/

either way fuck off /lit/

>>15472097
are you talking about this anon>>15472075
or op?

>>15472067

yeah i jerked off today because i'm in a rut

but that just proves the theory is true

>>15472101
>this anon

>>15471054
>I'm /fit/, good looking, have plenty of male friends
>I tried Tinder and Bumble but they both went nowhere
You are not as good looking as you think you are

>>15472107
Are you trolling?
If not get some serious help, everyone itt thinks you're fucking odd.

>>15472111
uggo cope

>>15472110
it seemed like okay advice tho, thats what i did to get my first gf. i hate being autistic, i know from movies and tv that first dates are awkward but i find it hard to give any eye contact so it makes it difficult

>>15472114

can't you see? i'm trying to help you animals

>>15472145
Help yourself first, I think you need it more than most here.

>>15472150

You know, I actually get told that a lot..

Strange.

>>15472130
The advice is fine, don't worry.

>>15471923
this poster must have a hole between legs
there is no way a heterosexual men could have written this post

>>15470476
OP, I know it's always suspect when one anon pops up and say ignore everyone else in this thread. But, OP, ignore everyone else in this thread and listen to me.

First, books on cold approach are not considered lit.

However, as someone who has practised cold approach and used it to meet and sleep with some really quite hot women, I feel qualified to answer some questions. Btw I should add I'm not a natural - I'm 5'7", OK looking. The one guy you should read is Nick Krauser. Now, as a disclaimer, ignore everything he says which isn't directly about the practicalities of daygame. ignore his politics, lit reviews and all that, and just internalise and practice his daygame model. There's a LOT of turbo bullshit out there about game but Krauser is legit.

>>15472167
does it matter, if they are a girl then its a good viewpoint for op to have and if not so what.

>>15472123
post body with timestamp fren, i'm not the one claiming to be attractive

>>15472176
it matters because the way women and men experience dating and especially online dating is very different

>>15472061
You're dating a slut who other guys used as a fuck toy?

>>15472167
>>15472195

I'm a guy. Sometimes I fuck traps but otherwise I'm straight, and generally punch way above my weight with women because I'm in touch with my more emotional side. I used to break a lot of hearts before I found Christianity. Take my advice if you want to slay.

>>15472225
be honest you would like to be the guy who used her as a fuck toy

>>15472176

you get it. you'll make it

>>15472258
thanks my guy

>>15472160
I know how you feel. You try out new ideas and worldviews on /lit/ to test wether you are crazy or not. You use the guise of helping people to gauge if your current model of thought is strange to other people. You use this thread to self reflect. The seed of doubt is already deep within you. You half-know that you are bullshitting. You are the type of person who naivley tries to find himself through brute force. You try and try different theories. Either you are very young or you have developmental issues (no offense). Anyway I feel like you need to get out more. You are currently going nowhere. I wont even debate nofap with you. I know that your post is only on the surface about that. My advice is stop being so afraid of being authentic. It is just an obsession, a desperate attempt to relate to humanity without any direct risk. I used to do that as well: post my off the wall political theories just to see the reactions in the hope to learn something about human behaviour and in turn about myself. You need to approach life head on, engage with people. Else you will always be that odd person, the exhuman. Normal people learn organically and more genuinly. This way of thinking is too artificial and can lead to psychosis. Stop now anon.

>>15470692
kek

>>15470936
>Like I'm a nerd, enjoy reading and some other bs you do, looking for a gf.
terrible advice
unless you want to end up with someone you don't like

>>15472312
>unless you want to end up with someone you don't like
wouldn't op like someone with similar interests and or a condition like his

>>15471054
Some cities/countries are terrible for tinder. Maybe travel to some place like Brazil or Colombia once the pandemic is over? Girls over there will throw themselves at you if you're mildly interesting/attractive.

>>15472257
Of course. But my point is that the guy in the webm is dating her. Making him a cuck.

>>15470476
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Bone

>>15472362
you don't know if he is dating her long term or if she is just a short term fuck toy for him who he will dump for the next one

>>15470986
>Normal people dont get girlfriends or sex in clubs
t. never went out clubbing

>>15472287

Cool projections! But nope, I believe in what I'm saying here 100%. My only doubt is in my own strength of will to live up to my ideals. Sharing them here helps reaffirm my vision.

Unlike you, I have no problem fitting in. It just bores me to death. Once I realised that the modern philosophy of life is an un-ambitious grasping for simple social comforts and a safe secure passage from any 'negative feelings' at the expense of any chance of accomplishment or true existential fulfillment. Once you realise this, you too can begin the path towards an ascended way of being.

>>15470990
at the end of the day, I'm the one sleeping with her.

>>15471301
>informatik
What uni btw?

>>15472287

sorry but i actually do be like this

and it really is the truth

dope pic though

hope you find your way

>>15472325
Yes but stating you want a gf on tinder will scare off everyone except desperate girls

Ideas for dates on quarintine?

>>15472443
op is desperate tho

Men are attracted to physical beauty. Woman are attracted to social status and physical appearence. Anything else is just cope. Yes, being compatible and all helps in relationships BUT, if you are talking about sexual attraction, then it all comes down to social status and beauty. This is the reason there are boy bands but not girl bands, men dont worship high status the same way woman do, men worship beauty.
If you want to attract woman the only thing you need to do is to display social status and good physical appearence. Usually social status matters a lot more than beauty so you want to be able to talk smoothly and with confidence ( Really hard to do if you're a social retard). Also, clothes and proper grooming give you a HUGE boost in social status, so work on that.

There are some good books if you want to learn this. Some anons already recommended Models, which is very good. You might also want to read:

Mate: How to Become the Man Women Want ( evolutionary psychology approach)

How To Make Girls Chase( PUA, which I dont recommend doing, but that can give you good insights in ways to engage with woman that you probably haven't considered before.)

>>15472453
That's why I said 'unless you want to end up with someone you don't like'

>>15472376
If you're in public with a girl, you're dating her. Cuck status. Doesn't matter if you convince yourself you're only going to date her for a month.

>>15472461
well maybe it isn't that bad, he could have a short term relationship with some thot on tinder but at the same time get to know some of her female friends

>>15472455
>Men are attracted to physical beauty.
There's nothing more important. Beauty makes the world go around.

This is where you fucked up OP. You have the disease of the mind that the majority of internet niggas have. You think that there is a book, theory, or something that explains human behavior down to an intricate level. OP, just give up on finding that theory. Go outside and fuck up a bit, learn from experience, don't read a book.

>>15472493

This anon gets it, get to know people and let them surprise you.

>>15471984
it's over

>>15470476
Just go where women are and talk to them, why is this so hard for you guys?

Women hookup with anybody but only find bfs in their friend group/social group

>>15472632
Like where? How do you meet women these days without using the internet?

>>15472632
>Just go where billionares are and talk to them, why is this so hard for you guys?

>>15472641
Outside.

>>15472642
Women are a little more common than billionaires, don't you think?

>>15472451
walk in the park

>>15472653
women won't talk to me because i'm ugly :(

>>15472673
hm

>>15472653
yes, but it's more of a invisible barrier that separates us from them
one time i saw a billionare who lives in my own country and he had body guards and camera men following him, even if i wanted i wouldn't have been allowed to talk to him
with women it feels the same they are usually either with bf or female friends that act as body guards, but even when they are alone there always is this instinctual fear of approaching them as if somebody will kill me if i bother them

>>15470986
>There is absolutely no hope now
Not with that shit attitude

>>15472757
nah, it's over

How do I make do with my stutter
It's not a nervous tic, it happens more when I'm with people I'm comfortable with (then again I talk more with people I'm comfortable with)
I can do public speaking just fine as well, I don't really get nervous, I'm just cautious with what I say so it doesn't set off my stutter
Unfortunately while this strategy might work in a formal setting (using more obscure synonyms, pauses,etc.) it's just awkward in an informal one. I find it difficult to verbally defend myself and keep a dominant position in a conversation.
Girls always give these weird annoyed looks as well and people will talk over me, thus I miss my opportunity to give insight.

>>15471489
Improve yourself

>>15470476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcGttKu2DIk

>>15471683
>watch it Chrissy

>>15471491
>I will be hitting that soon for training and that oxytocin which can carry you for a month
Yikes. Maybe try something else

why does this board have to always have multiple >tfw when no gf threads every fucking day holy shit kys

>>15470476
why the fuck would you want to interact with women on purpose

>>15472806
give me a gf and i promise i will stop

>>15472806
this website is full of horny losers

>>15472804
to instert peepee inside holes
it be feel good sometimes

>>15471491
The way cold approach works is when the girl looks like she wants you to talk to her, as in looks at you or hovers or whatever, OR she is delighted when you first start talking to her. Very rarely it will work like 1 in a hundred if she's fairly indifferent or moody once you say something to her.

Cold approach is best when you're both in the same area say at a bookshelf at a library and it would be weird if you DIDN'T say something. Girls actually get offended sometimes if you don't try and start something, they expect it and you're supposed to. You're the man after all.

>>15472768
I didn’t go on a date until I was 25. It’s never over, especially if you start improving yourself

>>15470476
Books will not replace what you learn from direct social interaction. Just go talk to women. Expect to be rejected, dont set your heart on a specific woman just keep trying until you meet someone you mesh with.

>>15472769
Practice practice practice. If you have friends ask them to tell you things you can improve on

>>15472822
>horny loser
damn... literally me

>>15472828
Give me the rundown on how you made this impossible feat happen

>getting to the age where people ask me if i'm married and i've never even had a gf

>>15470476
Just learn from this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qhHiottlZw

>>15472769
Have you thought about rehearsing what you want to say in your mind before saying it?

>>15472835
Bro I've been talking all my life
And I've had it all my life
You saying practice over and over isn't legitimate advice

>>15470476
Men should look like that woman, too. Would make life a lot easier for everybody.

>>15472757
it is not like I did not try or did not have any succes prior. But life does not lead to stations where I can make new friends or meet people. So I am sitting at home reading dead men and preparing for gym. Once I finish CompSci I will work with 90% men and barely have time for anything anyway. I tried everything from sports to books to fashion to literature to cold approach. I even did psychedellics. The one thing left is therapy. Maybe I will do that soon but after that I technically did everything in my power. I guess I am just not made for this shit

>>15472889
I kno that feel anon.. I know it too.

>>15472895
Yes but it doesn't really change what I stutter on
I stutter on specific syllables and sounds (with some minor switches ever now and then)
What makes public speaking better for me is that I can change around phrases I know I'll trip up on and use more erudite words that'd sound awkward in a relaxed setting
Anyways rehearsed talking sounds strange and the most effective speakers have an ability to make shit up on the fly

>>15472788
very good post

>>15472436
mhh dont want to be doxxed. But I can say that it is in hessen. Thats it. Wont tell you if its uni or fh or anything else

>>15472881
Not him but I had my first date at 25 too. Was doing a group project on college, and literally the hottest girl in class was in mine. She kept eyeing me, laughing at my jokes, commenting on how smart I was, so much that I was all 'fuck it' and asked her on a date, right after one of our rehearsals. I was trembling on the phone and she said yes.

This date I almost get close to kissing her, then she started talking about her exes and a dude she was hanging out but was not interested into, so my bitter-loser aura decided that she wasn't interested in me at all. I won't go into specifics because it haunts me to this day, but I practically ran away from the date while despite her trying to stay with me a bit longer.

Fast forward a couple months, I realize what had happened, and decided to improve on this. On a travel to Brazil I used tinder, was as blatantly honest as I could to all my matches, several found me cute/interesting/endearing, and got laid like thrice in a week by different cuties. Some of which still write me to this day.

tl;dr Take chances, be honest, don't self-sabotage. Some girls may like you as you are, just don't blow it.

>>15472828
What did yo uimprove specifically?

>>15472635
That's natural, why would you do a life-altering decisions for literally who?

>>15472928
Well you could explain this to girls before/during dates, this way you won't have to be scared at saying things, which is probably the biggest hindrance towards girls.

You could even play it up saying that you get kinda nervous around her, or that she makes you feel comfortable enough to try to talk proper. Girls love that stuff.

>>15472959
>, then she started talking about her exes and a dude she was hanging out but was not interested into
why would a woman talk about who dicked her and who didn't while hanging out with another man who is trying to dick her?

>>15472768
>nah, it's over
Yep with that shit attitude

>>15472022
How long ago was this? You make it sound like something from like the 80s lmao

>>15472998
Talked about it to several girls (during dates, even) and it was a way to say that she was available, that she wasn't seeing anyone interesting, bonding, etc. Girls aren't perfect at portraying their interests or holding conversations either.

>>15473012
>not with le attitude

>>15472788
Fur q marv, nice hitler dubs though, impressive, very nice

>>15473024
He's right though

>using knowledge you didn't earn from your own experiences to manipulate others
may as well read books on witchcraft as well

Why do so many women look like they're wearing shitty diapers?

>>15472950
>hessen
TU Darmstadt or go home desu.

>>15473085
>you can't use the experience of countless other people transmited in written form to not have to start from zero with your own limited experience
i guess engineering is witchcraft as well

>>15473087
>he doesn't know

>>15470476
what is that guy doing right that i am not

>>15470476
looks like you want ass more than a gf to me

>>15473174
THere's no difference

>>15473182
Delete.

>>15473174
isn't that the point of having a gf?

>>15473182
fml

>>15473139
engineering benefits everyone. PUA tactics benefits liars

>>15470649
whats wrong with yoga pants? feminazism, lack of comitment, something else?

>>15470476
Try "how much for half an hour and one shot".

>>15470668
i have known guys with little money that hook fast through words; not wife material, i guess, but still get what they want.

>>15470476
Yes. But what you need to do first in read Schopenhauer's On Women.
Then go for Ovid's Ars Amatoria, which is exactly what you're looking for.

>>15473355
i tried, she said she doesn't see virgins

>>15473419
Just to be clear. Schopenhauer is to free you from misconceptions on the feminine nature; Ovid for pick-up techniques.

>>15471008
not insecure: just fake. the kind of promotional fake. they are actors.

>>15471283
the most promiscous dude i knew, once told me he also fapped everyday. he was a sex addict literally. he never had a stable relation, but he never tried or seem to cared for one (his patents sucked and hardly cared about him when he was a kid)

>>15473351
no, feminazis don't fit in yoga pants lmao, but yoga pants are an indication that the grill fucks around

is there a book explaining why every woman i meet is already taken and where to find single ones?

>>15472881
I analyzed myself objectively to figure out why I wasn’t getting girls, and what I needed to change about myself in order to get girls.

I was a shut in afraid of everything loser who looked like shit. So I forced myself to go out, changed my appearance through natural means (within a year extended family literally didn’t recognize me), and expanded my horizons.

I’m not some ladies man now, nor do I want to be. But I have had girlfriends finally, cute ones too

>>15471791
Science, according to who? point sources for those statements, or they are just weasel words.

like it or not we are animals, and not all bodies need the same amount of stimulation. thats biology. castrated people still had sex desires, even if the lower level of hormones change their personalities.

>>15472998
>>15473019
It’s that and it’s also a power play, they are letting you know that they are desired and you’re not the only one who can get her. Many modern women get off on feeling more experienced in some ways than their man, as they are often jealous when the man is more experienced than her. I dealt with this often with my one ex, she would constantly talk about past relationships. I started to do the same and it bothered her sooo much.

Your best weapon is to not let her think it bothers you, and it really shouldn’t either.

>>15472061
if pussy cares about quality over quantity, then its not a bad trade.

who truly wants to end with unplanned families, stds and a bunch of psycho ex seeking revenge or ownership?

>>15472971
Appearance (weight gain, wardrobe, style) and forcing myself into social situations now matter how terrified I was

>>15472925
You need to engage in more social activities and out yourself in situations where there is a better balance of guys and girls

>>15473705
How do you force yourself into social situations if you literally have zero social contacts? Pandemic doesn't help either...

>>15472897
Theres a difference between doing something and actively trying to improve on something. Have you tried taking classes? Speech therapy? Acting classes? Record yourself and analyze it?

>>15472167
why? because you are unable to think that? if im male and someone else thinks different must be female? lol

>>15473729
I had zero also

Meetup, volunteering, community college classes, job. And I’m still looking for more ideas

>>15470782
Also the quickest way to spot butt sweat

>>15472195
you dont need to be a woman to learn from women. women also speak and make vlogs. males that listen improve hooking skills. they can understand better reactions, and get better bait. logic 101

>>15473617
It's just that if you get a great gf you won't let her go, so as you get older they get more scarce (as great bfs)

>>15473182

That's not a Christian girl

>>15473783
Yes she is, she is going to church.

>>15473831
on the 22nd floor

>>15470476
Don't listen to >>15470936, no fisherman would take advice from a fish. That said, don't bother with PUA; read NEETchee instead and self-actualize. I'm not dumb enough to say "you need to love yourself before you can be loved", but having true confidence in yourself makes it a lot easier to deal with women.

>>15473842
>no fisherman.
Reminded me of this. Might be of some interest to OP and all

>>15473839
Looks like slut based off the clothes she is wearing.

>>15473821
lmao’ing at that tat

>>15470476

Idk I was pretty sure I was going to be an incel then I met a cute non-degen girl in HS at 16 and have been with her since.

Feel sorry for all the rest of you saps

>>15473939
What's it say?

>>15472455
Hello, ideas peddler.

>>15470476
I'm also 26 and i've never kissed a girl either the long and short of it , you can't really pick up girls just about ever
the closest i've got to a girl liking me was when i was a distant friend that she got to get to know
when you let loose and stop thinking about things just being honest really with them and with yourself
but that's the thing anon first you gotta pick them up as friends and then without judging them or expect things from them go from there , if you got real close with them and couldn't progress past that , they can help you find a quick fuck
so win win
just for the love of god don't have a mental breakdown over stupid shit like i did and lose the friendship And the relationship
for the love of god just be normal

>>15470491
What about Ovid's "Ars amandi"? The first pick up artit text.

>>15474238
pick up artistry is a sham
if you are not handsome enough for girls to approach you
just give up on the whole concept
i got the chance to witness a couple of chads real close
how easy it is for them to pick up girls is soul crushing i'm talking Yoshi video game easy the girls were almost fighting to get their attention

>>15474273
Another ideas peddler.

Canterbury tales and arabian nights.
They will show you the true nature of women.

>>15472959
>This date I almost get close to kissing her, then she started talking about her exes and a dude she was hanging out but was not interested into, so my bitter-loser aura decided that she wasn't interested in me at all.
Women inevitably end up talking about that shit. I don't know why, maybe subconsciously to gauge your response, but it's a favorite topic for them to bring up on first dates or in casual conversations, or even out of nowhere. When they do this just listen, you don't have to say anything about it unless they ask you or you feel like it, just change the topic once they're done talking for a whole minute or it might move onto your (lack of) previous relationships. Really, just act like you don't care, even if you do.

>>15474435
Had this happen also. She mostly talked about how her Ex was a POS, but we all know the opposite of love is not hate. I just tried to be supportive, lol. I guess it a flex that girls try to pull on us men.

>>15474435
Yes. It was my first date though, and my brain just shut down. She got really close to me and touchy, face to face, but I was all 'this girl has no interest in me, what am I doing here, I must leave now'

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this board is absolute trash. i hope everyone itt gets shot.

>>15470476
Casanovas memoir.

> Chadest philosofer ever. The rest are nerds

>>15470929
I've done it. Literally everyone wants a story. Its easier than what one normally think it is but is also true that you have to be a bit more bolder than u usually are.

>>15470929
. My regular friend with benefits, i got her with cold approach. An other friend with benefits is visiting me this summer (pretty reliable this one), i got her with cold approach in a Mcdonald a few years ago. Had my last success from cold approach last february A girl alone in a bar. Had some luck. It works for real, but before success, you will have dozens of failures. And after something like 50 consecutive failure, you might get demoralized if you don't have a strong will. That's why loosers say it doesn't work, because they approached 15 girls, it didn't work, so they assume it doesn't work. But if they had persevered, eventually it would have worked, even if the 100th girl. You will also get lots of numbers who don't go anywhere. However, if you are new in a place with 0 friend, or if you don't have friends anyway because you are a nolife, it's the only way for you (except online dating but it's shit), to fuck girls. Social circle game is easier and have a way higher success rate, but you are limited in the quantity of girls, and girls in your particular social circle might not attract you.

>>15470476
answers for this entirely depend on you and what kind of relationship you want.

>>15470938
>This. Absolutely this. Every time I see women wearing them I want to fucking stab my eyes out
said the foid.

>>15474411
explain.

>>15473584
Not really. You must be a virgin or close to it to think like that. In my experience, the women who are more prone to cheat in a relationship, are those who are somehow ashamed of their body. Those who exibit their body, to a certain extend, don't have complex, and won't get fucked by the first alpha in town, just because he give them some attention. In general, girls who hide their body and are ashamed of it are the biggest sluts. Because when some alpha give them attention, their think something extraordinary happens, and they give it all. On the other hand, the usual slut in her yoga pants is used to have chads picking up on them. So she is used to reject them casually. It's just my opinion, and i'm not sure to be 100% right. However, i had a girlfriends who was a total slut, but who always wear traditional clothes, and recently met a girl who dressed like a boy, but was a slut as well.

>>15470986
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MADE ME REMEBER WHEN I WAS INMY FIRST SEMESTER AT COLLEGE (all degrees have subjects in common) AND IT WAS FULL OF PRETTTY 18YOS. I MANAGED TO TALK TO A FEW AND I WAS FINALLY FUCKING HAPPY BUT THAT SHIT FADED AWAY AS I WENT DEEPER INTO ENGINEERING. FUCK THIS GAY SHIT WERE ARE THE CUTIES AT?? THEY ARE ALL OLD NOW NO LONGER 18 I HAVE WASTED MY BEST CHANCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>15475634
This is true but he is also right, yoga pants are trash tier and will cheat as well.

>>15470599
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HAVE ALSO BEEN APROACHED BY AN ARYAN HOT CUTIE AND ANOTHER COUPLE OF MID TIER WOMEN WHEN I WAS 15 AND NOW YOU MADE ME FUCKING REMEBER I REJECTED THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU NOW I AM SO LONELYYYY FUCCKKKK COVID SHIT IS ONLY MAKING IT WORSE

>>15473509
lmao the absolute coomer