/lit/ - Literature

>>15467691
Why are you posting about this? Where is the interest in gnositicism coming from these days?

>Christcuck mad because his religion STILL hasn't produced a satisfying answer to the problem of evil
Seethe more

>>15467701
privatio boni retard
Plotinus already BTFOd Gnosticism

>>15467691
>theology
>The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

>>15467691
This but it's all horrible. Anyone who takes any religious text seriously is equally stupid

Have you actually read any of the Nag Hammadi texts? Or is your knowledge of Gnosticism based on what Bishop Barron told you?

>>15467730
>yet another privatio boni midwit
>can't handle individuated interpretations of god, needs to assuage his terror of his own subjectivity with dogma

Lmao what factory do they pump you clowns out of? Evil has a qualitative existence, deal with it brainlet

>>15467730

Imagine believing this world is redeemable. Imagine believing it is redeemable precisely after your dogma admits only the excruciating death of God in his person can "redeem" it.

Imagine the sheer cope pretzel you have to become to argue why God has to play by the rules of the system he himself creates ex nihilo, as if the economy of sin can infringe on his divine power. Imagine worshipping a "God" who won't constrain you to love him, but will harden the hearts of pharaohs for dramatic effect when it suits him. Theists are cockroaches.

>>15467701
John 10
10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.

You are the hired hand who cares nothing for the sheep. In fact, you are worse than the hired hand, because you are not even getting paid to say what you say.
Christ is the good shepherd.

>>15468191
Isiaha 45:7 and Matthew 7:17. Gnostics know the Bible better than you do.

>>15468171
>Theists are cockroaches
Only dogmatists, most modern Christians are good people

>>15468203
That goes without saying.

>>15468201
I don't know enough about gnosticism to say whether it is correct or not.

What I do know is that God showed his love for the whole world by sending Christ to teach us and to ultimately die for us.

Even Jesus asked the Father, take this cup from me, for Christ knew he would suffer great evil and become sin for us.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

>>15468255
Literal robot

Please read my theology, I think it answers a lot of important questions
https://postsyntheticsocietalproject.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/i-am-the-second-coming-of-jesus-the-antichrist-the-dragon-of-revelations-and-whatever-else-a-meditation/
https://dancefighterredux.wordpress.com/2019/09/26/spyro-3-a-draconic-logos/

>>15468121
and what is that which is the essence of said evil?
suffering?
ok faggot

>>15468258
If you want to be gnostic, no one is going to stop you, but Christ is ultimately the answer. If we forget that then we are doomed to Hell.

God, don't you love it when spiritual-posing midwits immediately go for christianity because they can't handle that Jesus wasn’t actually a Christian and what you “believe” hardly matters compared to what you directly experience and do? “Christianity” is itself the Great Whore of Babylon, it attracts the same midwit fucks who think they managed to cut the gordian knot just so that they can feel "saved" and superior to agnostics, atheists, and people of other religions. It's fucking hilarious that you guys lap it up all the same as the midwits you make fun of, like, imagine some schmuck in 4000 AD digging up a copy of "The Roman Catholic Catechism" or a transcript of one of those modern televangelist preachers and trying to use it as proof that he's above everyone else because reading those works of fart enlightened him not through any actual profound spiritual reordering of themselves , but through the sheer power of CONFORMITY TO SOME MANMADE CHURCH. Get the fuck outta here.

>>15468279
Ignorance, retard lol

>>15467691
Only reason why mainstream theologies become more elaborate is from people who forced to believe in their dense doctrines trying to make more extensive rationalization out of them.

>>15468295
Rekt

>>15467701
a real encounter with christ causes that problem to melt away, i say this unironically

>>15468503
Been there done that, it didn't fix anything long term

>>15468514
Be patient. We all blossom in our own time.

>>15468543
I'm a chaos magician

>>15467701
Gnosticism doesnt solve the problem of evil. All it does is push it back a step

>>15468552
The real answer to the problem of evil is that you willed the universe to be exactly as it is. You're God. It's your fault. You got exactly what you wanted and exactly what you deserved.

>>15467701
>Brainlet needs everything explained in black and white gud vs evil like muh marvel movies
loll

>>15468296
Isnt ignorance a privation?

>>15468569
Being incoherent isn't the same thing as being complex.

>>15468552
only if you assume the pleroma is omnipotent

>>15468569
>shades of grey

>>15468570
yes but understood positively. not an absence of knowledge but a condition counter to knowledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlbkJZzVT20

>>15468595
>yes but understood positively. not an absence of knowledge but a condition counter to knowledge
I dont really understand how an absence could be an active force in such a way. I see ignorance as the privation of knowledge and any action rooted in ignorance as having only imperfect form. That sounds just like a system of privation. Perhaps you could elaborate ln how ignorance exists as a positive?

>>15468631
in the sense that the world is a system designed top-to-bottom for the perpetuation and deepening of ignorance

>>15467691
>Gnosticism is bad guys!!!! Theres no second evil version of God who makes bad things happen!
>GUYS GUYS GUYS MY COUSIN IS POSESSED BY A DEMON!!! I NEED YOUR PRAYERS TO HELP CURE HIM FROM DEMONIC POSESSION!!!

>>15468672
Would the perpetuation of ignorance be corrosive rather than constructive?

>>15468682
corrosive to the light, "constructive" within itself

>>15467691
>Gnosticism was the New Age hippie bullshit of its age
Christianity was the Marxism of its age, dogmatic, violent, authoritarian, etc.

>>15467696
because everything feels like shit so they turn to an idea that appealed to the gnostics, whom, plot twist: also lived under oppression at the time.

Christcucks:
>evil doesn't exist
Also christcucks:
>pic

Nobody in this thread refuted gnosticism. Cute.

>evil doesn't exist
>you are gay due to the absence of god.... invite him into your soft welcoming god shaped hole ;) and you'll be cured

>god, please resolve discord drama, amen

>>15467696
Coronavirus.

Crisis.

>>15468986
I keep forgetting that there's a fake pandemic going on

>>15468977
why pray to god to deliver you from the condition he created? how do you even begin to account for ego dystonic sexuality in a christian scheme? laugh riot

>>15468999
>>15468977
The angst comes from the illusion that God is the dreamer and you're only a subject of his dream. Prayer works, because Christ is the highest manifestation of the dreamer which is you. Christianity is actually genius when it's not fanatical and retarded, Christ even said that the kingdom is within and gave his followers the keys to the kingdom. The entire world is shaped by us, and it changes based on our own internal reality.

here's a freebie

>>15469014
no one operating at this level is frequenting those discords or shitting up gnostic threads on /lit/. ego dystonic sexuality is impossible without a dualism of pneuma/body

>Uhm, I think you mean "ask God to bind and send away these absence of good forces that seek to destroy"

>>15467691
what the fuck is gnthsis

>>15469046
privatio boni cucks annihilated top to bottom

>>15469046
btw guys, pink in this post is the same slut as red in this >>15468953
just in case you were wondering why
>gosh should I go to college?
gets 3 more prayers than
>sick people dying in the hospital

thirsty little christcucks

hot meme coming in boys