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Good literature for learning to be more modest as a Christian female? I've been in a secular environment for most of my life and am looking into more traditional Orthodox Christianity right now.

>> No.15467071

Try dilating tranny
>orthodox AGP tradwife
Lmao, like pottery

>> No.15467118

>>15467065
>secular environment for most of my life
>Orthodox Christianity
trading materialism for superstition

>> No.15467119

>>15467065
https://archive.org/details/catechismexplain00spiruoft/page/392/mode/1up
And maybe page 500

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>>15467065
>looking into more traditional Orthodox Christianity right now.
PLS WILL YOU W*STERN LARPERS FUCK OFF. I WAS RAISED ORTHOTOX. ORTHODOX CHURCH IS SHIT CORUPTION
PRIESTS ARE DUMB DIRT PEASANTS WHO FAILED AT ALL ELSE NO UNI REAL DEGREES
LAITY ARE DUMB DIRT PEASANTS
EVERYONE IS FUUCKING ONE ANOTHERS THEN COME IN LITURGY AND GO TEEHEE GOD FORBIVE ME
NO ONE REALLY BELIEVE THIS SUPERSTISION
NEVER MET ANYTHING BUT BACKWARDS POOR PEASANT WHO IS ORTHODOX FUCKING ALL TIME
ALSO RUSSIANS
WHY ALL OF SUDDEN THERE ARE ORTHOBOOS EVERYWHERE? THEY THINK ITS RIGOROUS PHILOSOPHY WEL ITS NOT.
I GHESS YOU ADMITTED ""SECULAR ENVIRONMENT" SO MEANING FORMER WHORE SO NO SURPRISE YOU WANT LARP HOLY NOW LMAAO YOULL FIT RIGTE IN

>> No.15467227

>>15467118
Materialism is even more of a superstition though
>lmao everything is made up of parts and there is no unity or truth

>> No.15467943

>>15467065
I can't recommend you a book, but I'm in a similar situation and a YouTube channel called OrthodoxTalks has helped me out a lot with changing my perceptions on relationships. The guy's name is Father Kosmas and there's a whole run of talks he did on marriage, relationships before marriage, etc.
Have you gone to an orthodox church yet? If so what was your experience like?

>> No.15467976

try looking within your soul, you might find something deep

>> No.15467985

>>15467065
No literature needed, just wear ankle long skirts and find a husband

>> No.15468088

>>15467202
I went through a brief period where I was interested in Orthodoxy, this was right before Jay Dyer and the entire /pol9k/ shit memes. The liturgy is nice, but I feel like Orthodoxy in America attracts people with an axe to grind rather. You could get the same spiritual benefits from Hinduism, but that's too normie and doesn't quite have the same sense of righteous indignation

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>>15468088
>You could get the same spiritual benefits from Hinduism
>hindus eat the flesh and blood of the Creator of the universe

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>>15468401
>uhhhh, if you die in the river, you won't be reborn durrrr.
The river is now the dirtiest river in the world because they keep on dumping dead bodies into it

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>trading materialism for superstition!? lol

>> No.15468425

>>15468088
In what way is Hindu "normie?" I've never seen Hindu converts like numerous Buddhist or Orthodox converts.

>> No.15468475

>>15468407
There's superstitious nonsense in all religons

>> No.15469153

>>15467976
the soul is a creation

>> No.15469173

>>15467065

First of all, stay off this website hahah. I'm a Catholic who is checking this site out again after converting. Big mistake! Horrible things posted in so many threads.

>> No.15469177

>>15469173
It's all me, I'm sorry

>> No.15469233

>>15467065
>literature
Dosto

>> No.15469564

>>15468425
>In what way is Hindu "normie?"
In the way that new age mentality is a watered down McHinduism product for wagecucks and hippies, and now every time a real hindu makes his voice hears, a bunch of self righteous christians will compare him to the new age idiots, because they have no other way to debate him.

>> No.15469837

>>15467065
Your God is old and dying. You're late to the party.

>> No.15469908

>>15469837
He rose, anon. Did you not get the good news?

>> No.15469930

I'm Serb Orthodox born and raised, one of the best churches you could join desu although coptic/nestorianism/assyrian/armenian apostolic is nice too, this will give you a nice brief summary of what Orthodoxy is in English, although the best way is to read the actual Orthodox bible and attend mass

http://www.spc.rs/eng/holy_scripture_and_church

>> No.15469940

>>15467202
based
I'm Greek and you are 100% correct

>> No.15469948

>>15469908
He riseth, then he dieth. Thus spaketh the new lordeth.

>> No.15469953

>>15467202
>>15469940
this is why nobody likes you anymore Greeks and your NATO puppet Patriach, you've sold your religion out

>> No.15470035

>>15467065
H-hey are you a girl?

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>>15467065
ORTHODOG

>> No.15471005

>>15467065
Find a semi-arian messianic group and start wearing a head covering. Stop with this orthodoxy nonsense.

>> No.15471114

Orthodoxy is cool to learn about, but most people outside of it have a pretty warped, romanticized view of what it actually is. At the end of the day, its another Church. There are good people in it, there are bad people in it, and there are a whole lot of average people in it, just like any other.

If you are actually a woman and not baiting, just go to a Church and volunteer. Being around other people of your age will help you much more than any idiots on 4chan, even if their recommendations are relatively good.

>> No.15471339

>>15467065

Yes.

https://archive.org/stream/NeoXianityBookOfRedemptionFromTheJewsAndTheMaterialWorld/NeoXianity_%20%20Book%20of%20Redemption%20%20from%20the%20Jews%20and%20the%20Material%20World_djvu.txt

Read this.

BoR 2:2 Hide your suffering. Suffering is the only practice to attain salvation.


BoR 2:3 Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen
by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.


BoR 2:4 Similarly Be careful not to practice your suffering in front of others to be
seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. You
will not attain salvation.


BoR 2:5 So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the
jews do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others.
BoR 2:6 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your
right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret.


BoR 2:7 Similarly when you suffer, do not let your left pierced hand know what
your right pierced hand is going through, so that your Cross is yours to bear.


BoR 2:8 Let others' suffering be theirs only, though their suffering is your
suffering, for you are all one, except the swines, for they are of the devil, they
worship him in secret for this world that will never be theirs no matter how hard
they strive.


BoR 2:9 And when you go through trials and tribulations, you suffer alone,
worshiping God in secret. And do not disturb others and their suffering, and let
them not disturb you either.

>> No.15471346

>>15471339

BoR 4:1 Blessed is the child that cries as it is bom, for it is to suffer because of the
sins of its parents, for the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth.


BoR 4:2 For the child is forced out of the kingdom of heaven because of the
original sin of its parents, or the sin it commits in the garden after being tempted by
the devil, for each baby male is Adam, each baby girl Eve.
BoR 4:3 Blessed is the soul that reaches the realm of the spirits, wretched is the
one who lingers in this world of sin.


BoR 4:4 A good soul merges with the Holy Spirit to live a pleasant afterlife in the
kingdom of heaven of Jesus Christ.

BoR 4:5 An evil soul merges with the unclean spirits that possess it in this world to
join them in various levels of hell.

BoR 4:6 Baptism of the body is done by dipping in water. Baptism of your
spirit/soul is done by drinking water.

BoE 4:7 Daily bread that you pray for is the food for your body, your prayers the
sustenance of your soul/spirit.

>> No.15472081

>>15467202
Because it's literally the truth. No matter how much you try to deny your origins like you weren't one of these peasants (you still are), Orthodoxy is the least corrupt form of Christianity. Roman catholicism kept adding things since 600 AD and forward. Immaculate conception, Papal infallibility, the sacred heart of Jesus cult, the Fatima cult, the filioque, not giving Eucharist to little kids, the new mass, Vatican bank corruptions and money laundering, CIA relations, the weird sexual mysticism of the saints and foreskin ring, purgatory. Holy shit I can go on forever.
If your best argument against orthodoxy is that you were raised in poor village and poor people were also orthodox then it's easily the best choice.

>> No.15472159

>>15472081
Orthodoxy started with Constantine and developed a bit after the schism before stagnating in the most irrelevant countries on the face of the earth. Anon had a point, maybe you should listen if you're a convert instead of having fictional views on what Orthodoxy is actually like. You think that the Orthodoxy church is some humble poor church full of pious people unlike filthy amerifats, you're entirely motivated by your resentment of fellow amerifats that you think east eurofats are better when they're really not

>> No.15472219

>>15472159
Not everyone belongs to Russia and whatever your churches are like. Have you ever heard of Antochian Patriarchate?
I've been orthodox for 5 years after I went into both evangelicalism and catholicism. Being irrelevant is way better than being a puppet for the elites and having weird cults and Pedo Ring inside the church. Vatican II proved orthodoxy was right.
https://youtu.be/ibZN9U3kbzw

>> No.15472383

>>15469564
New Age stuff is only superficially related to Hinduism, they take some of the iconography and read the Bhagavad Gita but that's about it. Never met a real, practicing Hindu and it's pretty much the only major religion I can say that about

>> No.15472435

>>15467065
I can smell your hymen from here

>> No.15472449

>>15467065
What made you switch?

>> No.15472485

>>15467065
>stop being a whore

was that so fucking hard?

>> No.15472503

>>15467202
Ah yes the Greeks

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https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02093.htm - The Paedagogus (Clement of Alexandria)

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https://libgen.lc/item/index.php?md5=209D902946A93859D70C26BAD35A3E1B

>> No.15472556

>>15467065
People pretend to be Orthodox, because they want to have their cake and eat it, they want to both be a Christians AND follow an exotic cult they dont quite understand. so you kinda end up with Orthodoxy, because Islam is just to scary and dirty, judaism is not accesible and occultism to elitist.

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>>15472219
>I've been orthodox for 5 years after I went into both evangelicalism and catholicism.

fucking kek why is EVERY SINGLE western e-ortho convert always like this?
I swear i haven't met someone from the west who has been orthodox for more than ten years and who wasn't some flavor of protty or catholic beforehand. it's like there's a formula to it. do you have a twitter profile with an orthodox cross in your handle, too? kek

it's like that pickup artist fuckwad idk his name but the altright likes him. suddenly he's orthodox and spamming twitter with cringe e-orthodox propaganda that any cradle-orthodox would find laughable.

i can't wait for when Dan Bilzerian inevitably declares his conversion to Orthodoxy and sets up a patreon so all the retard millenial and zoomer amerifats can throw money at him because he tells them porn is bad and evolution isn't real.

do you understand how compromised the orthodox church is? of course not you live in McDonaldland and get all of your info from Frogtwitter.

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https://libgen.lc/item/index.php?md5=9E321028A13CF433965E3C858F887801

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>> No.15472652

>>15472625
>reddit spacing

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>> No.15472657

i don’t have any recommendations but i’m sure the first principle of modesty in most of them is “don’t attention whore on 4channel, it won’t make you a real woman no matter how hard you wish it would”

go dilate

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>> No.15472713

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcvoGlJODSc

>> No.15472728

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZHxaL0nGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epGTXfTRVKo

>> No.15472805

>>15472625
I'm confused. What's your point?
Did you visit every orthodox church out there or knew every priest, bishop and monk?
I don't care what Russians did to you. I didn't become orthodox because it's BASED or because the pope is cucked. I studied its theology, I liked palamism, I've read John of Damascus, seraphim rose and Ephrem the Syrian. I dived into the the history of the early church and discovered the flaws of western understanding of alot of beliefs like how the original sin works and their view of hell and heaven. The whole suffering so you could make it easier for people in purgatory is totally an alien concept to the early church. I don't choose my faith based on what bishop I like or dislike. Grow up.

>> No.15472863

>>15472625
>i can't wait for when Dan Bilzerian inevitably declares his conversion to Orthodoxy
We should pray for him too.

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>>15472805
how do you not understand you are a living parody at this point?

orthodox for 5 years and trying to lecture people who have been in it since the cradle? pure american arrogance. you people really are children. just playing dress up and thinking expertise is something you can get in five minutes like your fucking BigMacs.

you are clueless and your identity is still purely capitalist. nothing but an american consumer.

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>>15472882
Yeah you seem very well educated on orthodoxy, especially when your best argument against it is pics of Patriarchs you don't like.
It's funny how you didn't mention anything regarding the religion itself and its beliefs or dogmas.
>pure american arrogance. you people really are children. just playing dress up and thinking expertise is something you can get in five minutes like your fucking BigMacs.
>you are clueless and your identity is still purely capitalist. nothing but an american consumer.
I'm German.

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>>15467065

Why are you people all the same?

>I need a book to tell me how to be more modest
>I'm looking into based epic le tradwife zoomer Orthodoxy

So boring