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found this quote on several websites.

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

- Marcus Aurelius.

is this correct? I've read meditations and this doesn't sound like him. I distinctly remember him being a firm believer in god. and that he thought gods did not concern themselves with the affairs of humans.

>> No.1543681

lol;dr

>> No.1543694

Yes it's correct,

Marcus Aurelius was an Agnostic at the very least if not maybe an Atheist.

>> No.1543695

OP, I can't read with those tits all over my face.

>> No.1543705

>>1543667
those tits look fake
but still nice

>> No.1543707

>>1543705
those tits look tits
but tits tits

>> No.1543709

>>1543707
*tits

>> No.1543711

>>1543667

My gosh fucking source pretty please.

Also isn't the problem with that idea the idea of objective virtues?

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1543726

Pascal's Wager

>even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should wager as though God exists, because living life accordingly has everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

Creepy tits. Chicks with no areola kind of scare me.

>> No.1543729

>>1543694
Someone with no understanding of Marcus Aurelius detected.

>> No.1543731

>>1543705
fuck you

>> No.1543759

>>1543726
>>1543726

pascals wager is just retarded

>> No.1543762

>>1543726
there are millions of religions which one should i follow?

>> No.1543767

Define "living life as though god exists".

>> No.1543770

>>1543762

The right one.

>> No.1543772

>>1543762
There are as many religions as there are people on the earth. Follow your own.

>> No.1543780

>>1543772
so i can make up some fucked up shit and follow it? like killing babies and offer them as a burnt offer to my gods? its just stupid and wager is stupid too

>> No.1543785

>>1543780
you are so dumb you are really dumb for real

>> No.1543793

>>1543759

True, but on the same lines as the original post. Worded better, too.

>> No.1543795

also :

>>1543762
>>1543767

Take it up with Pascal. It isn't my belief, so I'm not wasting my time defending/explaining it.

>> No.1543844

>>1543795
>>1543795
actually it was a Tongue in cheek thing said by him

>> No.1543851

>>1543844

Welp, I was convinced he meant it considering he spent most of his time apologizing for being Christian.

In all seriousness, I'm not too keen on christian apologetics, but it does seem to be rather nicely summed up in pascals wager. It does the job, there's no real way to refute the logic of it. All he's saying is that you can't get your picture taken with god, and seeing is believing for most. Then he poses the idea that it's better safe than sorry... seems like a genuine attempt to win intellectuals over.

>> No.1543862

>>1543844
When is Brownbear going to get a job????

>> No.1543881

>>1543862
>>1543862

yfw I have one

>>1543851
>>1543851
by Tongue in cheek I meant that he was well aware of the irony of his statement, that it can be applied aGainst Christianity too

>> No.1543882

>>1543881
I think he means a paying job not 16 hours of "employing" your efforts to 4chan.

>> No.1543895

I see /lit/izens are aspiring to the highest levels of intellectualism and wit. I'm so glad this board is immune to the banal shit throwing that the monkeys of /b/ /soc/ /mu/ /vg/ engage in.