/lit/ - Literature

>>15404598
>genuine question, are there any really well written YA series that can be enjoyed by all ages?

>>15404598
Yes.

>>15404603
>posts wojak
fantastic argument

>>15404604
any suggestions

>>15404598
I was never into fantasy myself but I can totally see why people enjoy it.

>>15404618
The Seventh Tower by Garth Nix
The first three Artemis Fowl books

>>15404598
YA is a marketing gimmick. Hence its bankruptcy as a genre. Anyone writing YA intentionally has already abandoned trying to do anything good or meaningful. The YA novel is a children's novel made without care, or a work for adults dumbed down. A good YA novel is simply a great novel from outside the genre rebranded to drive more sales.

>>15404598
I kind of liked series of unfortunate events, but I haven’t voluntarily read YA since middle school.
I was forced to read some in high school which solidified my hatred for public school systems even further

Ender's Game

>>15404598
Not a series, but the book When Marnie was There by Joan Robertson is a classic for anyone of any age. Its prose is personal, dignified and down-to earth all at the sqme time. It was even adapted into a Ghibli movie. Definitely recommend reading, watching or both.

They're a bit different though. The book takes place in the 60's when it was written in Norfolk, England. The movie takes place in the mid 2010's in Hokkaido (rural Northern Japanese island). Gorgeous, beuutiful story about the meaning of frienship and companionship. I love it so much and I'll be doing my yearly rewatch in a couple weeks.

>>15404598
I reread the “His Dark Materials” series recently after not reading them since I was kid and sort of liked them. The third book falls off a bit, and I understood the anti-religious theme a lot more.

>>15404598
>YA series that can be enjoyed by all ages
Redwall

>>15404692
People from the ages 16 to 28 generally are the driving force for what's "trendy" in consumer markets. You can see this as movies, music, TV, and art. So why shouldn't authors market towards that same group if books can be considered a form of artistic expressionism?

Chaos Walking Trilogy
Edge Chronicle Series

>>15404598
Narnia minus the shit books

>>15404692
>YA is a marketing gimmick.
This.
A book is either a good book or a bad book.
The idea that we need to intentionally write shitty books aimed at children because they are too dumb to read actually good books is a jewish ploy to make excuses and create a market for incompetent hacks.

>>15404598
>my favorite YA novel? The Hobbit of course.

>>15405481
What's trendy is just as strongly defined by what is marketed as by what people prefer. Why do YA novels exist? They exist as a genre in order to corner that demographic.

YA novels don't reflect the tastes and preferences of 16-28 year olds. They reflect the tastes and preferences of a very specific set of adult woman, mostly in their early twenties to mid thirties.

They are supposedly aimed at ages 13-18, but in actuality they are written by and for adult women who grew up on Harry Potter or Twilight and were emboldened to never progress past that by the culture of consumption as a substitute for personal growth that has been taking over since Gen X were raised by television in the 80s.

>>15404598
Dealing with Dragons
The Dark is Rising

Also, not a series but a lot of Eva Ibbotson's books. I'm particularly fond of Which Witch.

Yes, the first four Harry Potter books.

>>15405474
this

>>15404618
Read pic related if you want something like harry potter

>>15405474
Based

Peter and the Starcatchers

Topic is YA and Harry Potter.
Boys, lets keep this thread alive.

>>15404598
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I liked The Chocolate War duoligy. I'm also reading The Outsiders at the moment and it's pretty good. They're both considered YA, aren't they?

The Borrowers

>>15405474
Best part is that the author isn't a furry and never was influenced by other children's writers. Just fun stories that happen to have Anthropomorphic characters.

>>15405744
I'm starting to write a book that I would consider to be in the same field of audience as an Animorphs or Goosebumps book. Like, kids horror. So, a little dark but not grotesque. Is this a bad idea if YA novels are considered a gimmick?

>>15404692
Seems silly to think that there's nothing noble in writing literature for children. As if children don't matter. I've found many books for the young to be mindblowing as an adult. Imagine what young people think? e.g. Shel Silverstein and Roald Dahl.

>>15408711
>(((Silverstein)))

>>15408711
Those aren't YA. Those are children's books. YA is not equivalent. Many children's books are lumped in after the fact in order to legitimize the genre by publishers marketing new YA, the side effect being that a YA reader might be deceived into purchasing something worthwhile. The YA genre fundamentally exists to market works dumbed down to the level a child could appreciate to adults.

A book written for children, with care and attention, is not YA. YA books ape the structure and themes of of children's books towards women who never grew up(and it is women, and not men, for men who are most similar to those women simply do not read fiction, or exclusively read high fantasy, which does not pretend to be for children).

>>15408694
Are you writing it for children, with the purpose of making something for a child? Then it's not YA, even though a publisher might choose to market it as so.

I don't see why not. But, to only read juvenile books is kind of sad when you are in your twenties. My friends who are obsessed with anime don't realize that most of their shows are made for teenage boys and girls.

>>15409489
Whats worse is many people over the age of 20 who are into manga genuinely believe that it is a valid form of literature, they even compare it to real book and more often than not, even refuse to read real books because they have no pictures in them. Sad.

>>15405523
This is basically reinforcing what >>15404692 was saying; good books for young adults are just considered good books, not good YA books.

>>15404598
House of the Scorpion has 2 books, so that can be counted as a series.

Also Scythe is not bad considering it's a YA series.

>>15404598
The House of The Scorpion
Anything by Kate Dicamillo
The Bartimaeus Trilogy

All the most beloved YA lit is surprisingly brainy when you revisit it as an adult. Everything Pullman ever wrote of course, The Jungle Books and Just So Stories, Earthsea. I enjoy Dr Seuss immensely from a socially conscientious perspective. And I'll throw in Harry Potter because I know I'll get some (you)s.

>>15405474
Don't try to read Redwall books as an adult. Seriously, don't.

>>15404598
Animorphs

>>15411084
>inter racial romance
>implied bisexuality
Left cant meme lol

>>15404598
The Chronicles of Narnia.

I don't know. I stopped reading YA lit because the characters were always so retarded. Whenever a character would do something they thought was really smart I would think to myself 'this is going to come back a chapter or two later and be a problem' and sure enough that exact thing would happen and the main character would be shocked.

>>15405515
Yeah, most of Us young adults aren't actually reading this shit thrown at us, I personally like reading old dystopian novels and such. Please don't assume all of us are braindead faggots who just pick something up from the library because it "looks cool".

>>15411192
These books follow a formula bro, and that's why people buy them. But that doesn't make them bad.

>>15412754
Nothing wrong with that. People need entertainment.

I really enjoyed Howl's Moving Castle, but if you go into any YA novel expecting high literature then you are your own idiot.

>>15404598
yes

>>15405474
Read these as a child and now currently reading them to my children. They're pretty fun.

>>15404598
Cirque du Freak (The Saga of Darren Shan) is the greatest novel series ever written.

>>15414674
Greatest? No, but it is worth the read tho

>>15404598
Animorphs is some great "everyone might be enemy, trust no one" type of stuff. Don't let the horrible book covers turn you off.

>>15405744
I think you may be projecting. There is certainly those types of books but they are normally labeled as urban fantasy and have a female mc, generally there are vampires, magic, and a lot of sex scenes. No males read such books unless they have mental problems.
YA are regular stories targetted at adults except often mc is somewhat younger so that its easier for younger audience to identify with him or her.