/lit/ - Literature

Edgar Allan Poe was out of money and needed to drink, so he went to a tavern in Baltimore and started giving a political speech to get donations from supporters. Unfortunately, the people in the tavern were for the opposite candidate and beat the shit out of him and left him in a gutter to die.

>still a virgin even after death
I'd hope so.

foot fetish
foot foot foot fetish

take a writer away from his typewriter
and all you have left
is
the sickness
which started him
typing
in the
beginning.

Lewis Carroll actually had many relationships with adult women. It's thought the evidence of this was suppressed (by destroying pages of his journals) due to his family's Victorian standards of modesty and morality.

>>1538456
>implying anyone but hipsters ever used typewriters. pfft. pfffft.

>>1538460
doesn't mean he didn't have repressed pedophilic desires

>>1538456

I've never even read that poem and I knew it was Bukowski instantly.

Guys hold on a sec. I just found out from OP that HP was a racist.

>>1538460

The pages ripped out of his journal are from a time up until the Liddel family forbade him from seeing their daughter, Alice. It's not known why, but people usually guess that he had some sort of creepy relationship with her. If you read the Alice books, you kind of get a feel (or at least I did) that he had an unrequited love for her.

>>1538468
naw man. they're better than writing on a computer. you're less likely to edit as you go along. in other words, you'll crank out stories faster and spend your time editing later.

>>1538484
how does that sound better at all?

sounds like you would have yourself rapidly producing nothing but shit stories

>>1538470
Kinda like how you don't actually need to walk into the bathroom to smell the shit your friend left in the toilet.

>>1538486
you probably don't write much. better a shit story than can be fixed later than no story- ever.

i think the craft of writing is molding the skeleton you've made for yourself. you'll never get better at that craft if you can never finish a skeleton if that makes any sense.

>>1538493
but you're really making little sense here

if i did that on a computer i could not only edit as i go along but also edit later

how does not being able to correct my mistakes whenever i see them make me a shittier writer?

and why would you want to ever rush through a work?

Faulkner was technically Jewish.

Joyce was described by contemporaries as "a loathsome cunt" and is said to have started more fights than any man in Ireland.

Homer never existed.

Douglas Adams wrote 33 episodes of Doctor Who during a single cocaine binge in 1977.

D.H. Lawrence believed in magic.

Zadie Smith has batlike wings.

Dave Eggers suffers from a rare mental disorder that causes him to perpetually believe that he is on the cusp of adulthood.

Snooki is not only an author but also works in television.

>>1538486

I used to write a lot with pen and paper, and I have to say there is something to what anon is saying. When typing on a computer it's much harder to leave a decent-but-not-perfect sentence be and continue on with the story. It's easy to get stuck tweaking small amounts of text over and over again, and because there's no evidence once you've done all that revising it's hard to recognize how much time and mental energy you've wasted on some tiny and insignificant fraction of the story.

Granted, using a typewriter today is almost always a hipster affectation first and a practical consideration second, but that doesn't mean it can't be useful.

John Cheever: Inventor of the Pog

>>1538554
not convinced

even with pen and paper i revise as often as i do typing

but pen and paper makes more sense than a typewriter

BREAKING NEWS: People have different writing processes.

W.Somerset Maugham was also a spy, an atheist and a homosexual

>Dickens cheated on his wife and padded his stories for money.
you fucking bastard. how can i live with this he can no longer be one of my favs authors

joke i dont care about the author pesonal life you degenerates

>>1538695
>implying anyone here does

>>1538713

What in his post made you think that he was

>implying

anything?

>>1538723
>joke i dont care about the author pesonal life you degenerates
you don't say that to those you agree with

>joke i don't idolize tripfags degenerates

>He was still a virgin even after death

Is forever alone-liness one of those things that keeps growing after you die, like fingernails

>>1538732

Well, not going to argue. The point seems to have escaped you.

>>1538739

Yes. It still counts as getting some if some necrophiliac rapes your corpse within six months of your death. It says so in The Red Badge of Courage.

>>1538744
what was your point?

it seems to have escaped me

>>1538761

Yes

That was my Point

typewriters are nice because they have only one function. No distractions.

J.R.R. Tolkien was a professor of linguistics at Oxford, and his peers looked down on him for writing fantasy.

William S. Burroughs shot his common-law wife during a drunken game of William Tell. In Mexico

>>1538774
Jonathan Franzen writes on a laptop with its ethernet portal stopped up with a gluestick or some shit, sometimes blindfolded

Repressed middle-class white angst don't come easy

>>1538771
wordplay is fun

but it is not to be used when one is feeling righteous

i have won this small scrap

only because your castle is two dimensional

>>1538785
I still get distracted, even if there's no internet. All it takes is another application, or function.

I do miss being able to correct stuff, though.

>>1538500
>>1538486

It's pretty clear what he's saying even if you don't agree with it. Feigned misunderstanding is one of my pet peeves.

If you really don't get it I'll explain it to you in simple terms.

What he's saying is that it may be detrimental to be able to conveniently edit anytime you wish because this may hinder your flow and speed of writing. He suggests that writing everything out, seeing how it works and then editing is better than constantly editing every sentence as you go.

Now I'm not saying I agree with his premise (why can't you simply do that on a computer indeed), but what he's saying is very clear and understandable.

>>1538801
That's where the blindfold comes in, bro

You don't get to play tsundere with Oprah if you're walking around looking at shit all the time

>>1538824

Nah he'll say that we don't understand him or that we aren't interesting enough for him to talk to.

He's a very special boy.

>>1538829


>>1538829

Well I just responded to the wrong thread now didn't I?

>>1538834
>>1538829

I know which one you meant to respond to. My post in the Nihilism thread.

>>1538834

I think your post>>1538829

Works when you talk about Franzen too.

>>1538817
i am really going to largely ignore every post you make

you are one of those tripfags that want to be nothing but accepted and it affects you to a point that you will often forfeit your own opinions

like courage wolf and to a much lesser extent tofu

>>1538881

And I've never seen you make a post that's not troll-tier.

So there!

>>1538903
did you forget your trip or some shit?

>so there!
campy as shit

ITT: tripfag jerk circle

>>1538881
But you're a fucking awful tripfag. No one even likes you lol

>>1538921

I don't like him.

>>1538919
>>1538919

don't worry bro, i came as soon as i heard

Did someone call?

>>1538921
>>1538931
I contribute more to the board then you ever will

time will forget you in lieu of I

>>1538945
you're a misanonthrope

>>1538960

You said that to me in the other thread I'm criticizing you in.

You're just a fountain of regurgitation, aren't you?

>>1538960
>I contribute more to the board then you ever will
First of all, you derailed this thread with an argument about typewriters born of ignorance and stubbornness
Second, how is this impressive? Using the Brownbear analogy, you're basically saying you shat more than everyone else. Have fun with your "accomplishment"

>time will forget you in lieu of I
Is this your new signature? You used this in the other thread, and it's really dumb.

>>1538960
>mfw so fucking smug and arrogant.

>>1538960
>>1538960

no i love people.

>>1538977
okay because you were nice about it

>>1538980
but you make fun of people who give you attention

>>1538881

Are you kidding me?

I have posted twice on this trip and my only reason for making it is to reply to all the shitty posts you make while not having other peoples posts attributed to me.

Please... God...

>>1539000
>but you make fun of people who give you attention
And this is why time will forget you in lieu of Brownbear

>>1538960

>I contribute more to the board then you ever will

Actually, I can't be the only Anon sitting here thinking "Hang on, I think I contribute as much, if not more, than that dude, and I actually try to occasionally make a nice thread and contribute positively rather than going around tripfagging the place up, trolling the fuck out of everyone and being rude and elitist into the bargain".

I don't think I like you much either, but that doesn't mean a damn thing - for all you know, I'm a paedophile rapist and you couldn't give a shit what I think.

>>1538881
>Watching Fabulous shit on random anon, pretty awesome
>"you are one of those tripfags that want to be nothing but accepted and it affects you to a point that you will often forfeit your own opinions"
>"...to a lesser extent tofu"
Oh Fabulous, you are the best shit talker ever. You shit talk people who aren't even in the conversation!

>>1538960
>I contribute more to the board then you ever will

fabulous, don't get delusions of grandeur.you're entertaining sometimes, and I dont dislike you, but you're hardly 'the best thing about this board' and the reason you'll be remembered has nothing to do with post quality - simply the fact that you have a moniker.

Honestly, am I the only one here starting to suspect that at least a couple of the big trolling tripfags are being run by the same guy? At least 2 or 3 out of Stag, Fab, Ty, and D&E?

>>1539029
D&E is just a faggot
but the other three are the same person

more more more
lets argue more

its a poem

>>1539029
Ty recently dropped out

since then i've been accused of being him so far twice

i have been accused of being d&e's repressed homosexuality which was funny as all git out

and no one hate me enough to accuse me of being stag

>>1539026
sorry i kind of like you

but i got that vibe from a few of your posts

>>1539016
I do that too and no one wants to talk about it

>>1539014
cheesy

>>1539012
calm your jets turbo

Who decides that a thread is going to turn into an impenetrable, off-topic tripfag coffee klatch like this? I can't predict when it'll happen at all

>>1539048
It's more that there's a similar vibe and use of language and similar trolling techniques that I see. I guess anon is right and it's mostly across you, stag, and ty.

>I do that too and no one wants to talk about it

that doesn't mean it's valuable tho. 'level of being talked about' is not a good indicator of 'what is good for the board' and the fact that you are talked about is incredibly unimportant to everything except the petty satisfaction of your fucking ego

>>1538774

I started out my writing career on an Adler manual typewriter and I have no romantic illusions about it - I hated the fucking thing. Additionally, I write poetry more than prose and setting the tabs and such like was about as much fun as dick cancer. Word processors changed my life. I travel a lot and being able to carry a superior version of my old typewriter in something as small as a netbook is amazing.

pic related: it's similar to the horriblewretched thing I had to drag around with me when I was a younger man.

Downside of PC/Laptop: Pr0n, and back in the day, nobody used to sit in a cafe with a typewriter desperately hoping it makes them look edgy and intellectual

>>1539059
as soon as an anon brings attention to a tripfag

well now that ty has left

stag wanders around but when he's here he fucks things up too

i don't think i've ever been in a circlejerk that didn't either start as one or slowly developed into one because of a huttburt anon

>>1539048
>but i got that vibe from a few of your posts
>tripfag circlejerk
What is this high school? Shit, how about you stop being faggots? Tofu, I haven't seen you post, but if you want to be a liked tripfag, ignore other tripfags.

>I do that too and no one wants to talk about it
You make awful threads that offer little to no discussion. Most of your threads are just you being a faggot.

>calm your jets turbo
Hilarious, bro. But not really. You're not very funny at all.

>>1539059
whenever someone validates their existence with attention

ABANDON SHIP

What does it mean to be a good tripfag?

hidden

>>1539061
but when i talk on things in literature that enjoy me everyone is too busy with Rand/Fantasy/homework/Dostoevsky/D&E to really care

it's not fair and so then i just kind of fuck around

>>1539063
But Stag is more tolerable then you because he posts less frequently.

>i don't think i've ever been in a circlejerk that didn't either start as one or slowly developed into one because of a huttburt anon
But you don't think. You're a moron.

>>1539061

>>I do that too and no one wants to talk about it

I actually thought that he meant he was a paedophile rapist.

>>1539075
>wahhh no one wants to talk about what I want to talk about
Stop being a baby, /lit/ isn't the only place on the intnernet to talk about literature.
If you really want to talk about anything on /lit/, drop the trip and see what happens.

>>1539063
>>1539059
Well, let's analyze this thread to see what happened. An argument started over typewriter use (seriously) and remained relatively civil for quite some time. Then Fabolous started being a bitch. Sorry. I'm not biased here, I honestly am just looking back at this thread and the fight basically started because Faboo was being passive-agressive as hell, with a lot of insulting language. EVEN THEN the fight over tripfags doesn't really start until Faboo makes a post about Ordinary (another tripfag) and then a big tripfag fight starts.

So (and I have to say honestly this surprised me) in this case the thread started off funny and interesting. Fabulous came in and got involved in a dumb argument about typewriters which stayed quite civil despite Fabulous being ridiculously passive aggressive / insulting. But no acrimonious argument actually broke out until Fabulous AGAIN tried to start one THIS TIME BY SAYING SOME SHIT ABOUT ANOTHER TRIPFAG. So basically the conclusions we can draw from this are (1) Fabulous is a bitch (2) the common tripfag assertion that the reason tripfags are inflammatory is because Anons can't just leave them be is entirely wrong.

>>1539083
Also doing this has made me think it's even more likely that Stag and Fab are the same person. Also that they should both be banned.

>>1539079
i wasn't born a tripfag

in my anonymity i garnered even less replies

at least i can have fun in this way

>>1539077
grow the fuck up

>>1539076
unique and original

>>1539074
>tripfag
this better not have anything to do with me

>>1539092
>in my anonymity i garnered even less replies

that's because you're a bad poster

>at least i can have fun in this way

well thanks for admitting that your fun is opposed to everyone else enjoying the board i gues

you guys say something about a circle jerk?

qui ubi sunt, tybrax

>>1539083
>civil discussion
>Fabulous enters and derails via typewriter controversy
this makes me feel like more of a diabolical genius than i am given credit for

>>1539087
tripfagging isn't a bannable offense and i think about 70% of my posts are on-topic

excluding posts that are made in direct response to other off topic posts

>>1539092
>at least i can have fun in this way
>arguing about typewrites
>your idea of having fun
Totes pathets, bro. Totes pathets.
You just sound like an arrogant faggot, which is probably why you have no friends irl and had terrible posts as anonymous.

>>1539092
>in my anonymity i garnered less replies

That's because nobody liked your shit when you were anon. Why should that be any different when you have a name? The only reason people talk to you on this board is to bitch about you being a tripfag. That's not adding to the board's quality, it's detracting from it.

You're the worst.

>>1539099
but it's not

/lit/ is just full of elitist whiny bitches

>>1539102
/point

>>1539102
Sic transit gloria.

>>1539099
>>1539092

http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2010/12/07/digital-self-harm-and-other-acts-of-self-harass
ment.html

> As they started looking into specific cases of teens answering “anonymous” harassing questions, they started realizing that a number of vicious questions were posted by the Formspring account owners themselves. They appeared on Formspring as anonymous but they were written by the owner while logged into their own account.[1] In other words, there are teens out there who are self-harassing by “anonymously” writing mean questions to themselves and then publicly answering them.

>>1539092
>grow the fuck up
>Fabulous
oh the irony

>>1539092

>grow the fuck up

I positively refuse, old thing. Imagine the wrinkles

>>1539104
>tripfagging isn't a bannable offense and i think about 70% of my posts are on-topic

I don't think all tripfags should be banned, I think, you, Fabulous, specifically, should be banned for being an annoying troll

>>1539106
...and you probably like bad music and are fat and get embarassed when you fumble with your order at wendy's.

CHECKMATE TRIPFAG

>>1539109
no i can hold pretty great discussion like this

it's because people feel obligated to actively deny my assertions

When he went to sleep, Immanuel Kant used to wrap himself in his sheets to such a degree that he needed his outer servant, a former army orderly by the name of Lampe, to free himself out of his sheets. He also took walks on more accurate times than the local clock tower and claimed that African Negroes had no finer feelings whatsoever.

Schopenhauer once kicked an old lady from a flight of stairs and had to pay for damages. After she died, he responded with something along the lines of "The Bitch is dead, a burden is lifted"

Socrates was one of the ugliest men of Athens and enjoyed fucking little boys

Fabulous, this thread made me realize that you are, in fact, fabulous. You've created such a stir with a collection of seemingly innocuous statements. I think you should be proud of yourself brajh.

>>1539126

>Socrates fucked little boys
Yeah, so did everyone else in Greece.

>>1539124
All you do is insult and annoy the people you want to talk to.
This is why no one likes you.

>>1539124
This is not a discussion. This is me telling you that you suck. End of story.

For a guy with such a limited and cliché gimmick you've really got to hand it to Fagulout that he can still draw the crowds. A real dime in the rough.

>>1539106
>>1539120
>projecting

i weigh like 125 lbs

and i get asked out by girls a lot

that's why i have no friends

because it's hard being masculine and orthodox and being a faggot at the same time and trying to keep it a secret

and every time I've tried to tell someone i start to look around and realize just how many people who i am friends with now would hate me if they knew

thanks for letting me vent /lit/

oh and i do have friends, just none that are close for these reasons

I don't really like any of them though

methinks Freud would label /lit/ anal retentive

>>1539130
This is why tripfags should be banned. They don't want to contribute. They just want to annoy people. And then they jerk eachother off when they do.

ITT: "Interesting" facts about tripfags

tripfag threads are like if they did episodes of csi that were all about the personal lives of the crime scene investigators

This is the decline of civilization.

>>1539144
I can make up stories on the internet too.

>>1539130
thanks

>>1539142
wit may very well be a limited ability

and that is why it is the one of the hardest crafts to master

i think this is good practice

>>1539147
I want to do both depending on what mood i'm in and what time of day it is and how /lit/ is acting

>>1539158
>he watches csi

>>1539159
do i really play that important a role?

>>1539154
your turn asshole

>>1539160
it'd be cool if you did so i wouldn't feel so alienated

>>1539169
i don't! but i'd be even less likely to if there was an episode that was all about forest whitaker buying groceries and having an argument with his wife rather than the crimesolving with the assistance of magical science and technology that i'd want to see if i turned on csi

do you see!!

hey queers, you're on the internet

your petty little gaywad rants are utterly void to any form of actuality and this bullshit is a symptom of why no one listens to you in real life

>>1539179
>he doesn't see the deeper meaning behind Forest Whitaker buying groceries

>>1539187
>implying tripfags act similar in real life
it's kind of like how you would never say this to me in real life

>>1539187

Forgot your trip, bro.

Gustave Flaubert frequently had sex with male and female prostitutes whilst on holiday and had mad STDs.

>>1539210
*sigh*

Please try to stay on topic, anon.

>>1539214
lol

anyway

Moliere invented the word moron when he named one of his plays' characters that

Moliere is also one of my favorite writers

almost up there next to Wilde

I think the main thing to remember in all of this is that the fact remains, despite all of their failings, oddities, perversions and proclivities, these authors collectively stand out amongst the greatest in history.

I personally think Poe, Lovecraft, Howard and Dickens are amongst my favorite authors of all time, despite the fact that they were what most people would consider "dysfunctional" at best.

This started off as a very interesting topic, and then soon became the usual clashing of fragile egos. Thanks /lit/!

>>1539248
Dickens?

i can understand Poe and Lovecraft but Dickens?

i need a rest

>>1538960
>I contribute more to the board then you ever will

contributing shit to a shitpile is hardly commendable.

why are tripfags invariably fucking morons?

>>1539256
Careful. Some dickbutt is about to tell you all about how Dickens is the most respected herp a doodle doo to ever blahhhhhhhhhh

>>1539116
Wait, seriously?
That's the most amazing thing I've heard all day.

Also, /cgl/ here. Do you guys have people starting threads about which tripfag you would fuck in real life, or which tripfag is which book character, etc.?
If you don't, you probably don't hate tripfags nearly as much as you should.

>>1538472
He called black people animals in his books. He also had a cat named nigger-man (the name was also used in a story).

>>1539286
that never happens here

the anons are just bitches

d&e knows more than 85% of them

>>1539278
clever

>>1539276
why do you think this post will change a thing?

In the mid 1950s, Vonnegut worked very briefly for Sports Illustrated magazine, where he was assigned to write a piece on a racehorse that had jumped a fence and attempted to run away. After staring at the blank piece of paper on his typewriter all morning, he typed, "The horse jumped over the fucking fence," and left.

>>1539296
Aw fuck thanks for letting me know. I definitely didn't read all of his stuff 10 years ago. That definitely isn't common knowledge anyway. You...you fuckin'...

Arthur C. Clarke is actually a pederast.

>>1539311
Fuck off, newtripfag, you'll never be able to compete with the others.

>>1538259

This guy is a homosexual?

you people fucking suck. This thread sounded so good. Go fuck yourselves.

Fucking awesome guys, well fucking done. This started out as a great thread and looked to be awesome but yet again tripfaggotry has destroyed something potentially awsome.

All you tripfaggots are cancer on /lit/, this thread looked so good and it was long. Here I was thinking we had something intresting. All you trigfuckers are shit. No discussion. You bring nothing of value to the board.

>>1539377
>projecting

>>1539332

I'm sorry, are there prizes, too?

>>1539377
except that this is just a rehash of a thread from the archives

fur chun archive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=1144444&x=Anecdotes+about+authors

>>1539384
beyond your wildest imagination.

>>1539377
Fucking this. Jesus, guys, I came here to learn new interesting things about authors. You will never become loved on 4chan. Everyone here is a seething ball of hate. Just talk about the fucking thread. No one cares about you or your enemies. Take that shit somewhere else.

>>1539400
hey i contributed

i've even started these threads before

but they die quickly...

if it wasn't for the tripfag drama that erupted midway through the thread you wouldn't be seeing it right now

>>1539400
lol YOU deal with it.

>>1539407
...That's your comeback?

>>1539377
10/10

>>1539395

>mfwyf

/soc/ is that-a-way, guys. You're anonymous here. Even if you keep a regular name, we're not going to remember it. Because NO. ONE. CARES. ABOUT. YOU.

Besides, your names are boring and forgettable.

>>1539436

Ok, forget this trip, then.

>>1539416
Yes I'll stick with that one.
>>1539426
Baby it'll blow your mind.

>>1539377
>>1539400

Yeah, these. c'mon d00dz

Also:

Virginia Woolf's printing company was the first to publish Freud's work in English.

The last paragraphs of The Great Gatsby were originally supposed to be the end of the first chapter.

>The last paragraphs of The Great Gatsby were originally supposed to be the end of the first chapter
wooooaaaahhh

>>1539278

What's wrong with liking Dickens?

>>1539563
Nothing really. I like the movie Starship Troopers. I just don't go so far as to tell anyone it's good.

>>1538259
>>Norman Mailer was a drunk, drug-addled bastard who stabbed his wife at a party.

I think all his protagonists drink a lot and at least one murdered his wife, so no surprise there.

>>1539607

Whatever man.

Kerouac practically starved himself to death trying to have a vision.
>Lunatic

>Be anthony Burgess
>Write a novel called clock work orange in a week.
>Over rated director picks it up turns it into a movie
>????????
>Serious net gain

Here's an interesting fact that will fuck with your noodle:

I, an exceedingly pale man, had sex with Stephanie Meyer and am the inspiration for Edward's character.

I REGRET NOTHING.

>>1539646
pfffttt

>>1539518
I can totally see that

>>1539665

Yes?

>>1539676

just whatevs brosh.

>>1539693

>Whatever man

>>1539987

>>1540012

cool guy.

itt: litfags reveal they are the same as a gossip mag reading "prole"