/lit/ - Literature

>>15381167
No there's a lot. We like science and believe in the linearity of that so that's influential. There's a lot, politics just scrapes up the parts

>>15381167
Based, /pol/ BTFO

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>>15381167
>Conservative: Authority: dominant alpha

>>15381233
>psychologist
Yeech

The conservative side unironically sounds more respectable

>>15381167
Jusus Christ was a progressive according to this silly table, which is ironic that conservatives admire him so much.

>>15381266
Well no shit stupid it's made by a conservative

>>15381269
It's funny how you people can never say Jesus properly when that wasn't even his real name

>>15381275
you cannot be serious

>>15381280
>oh no an error!!! xD
Here's your "e", scumbag.

>>15381269
>>15381280
And they never acknowledge He was black either.

>>15381269
He literally stated outright that the rich cannot get into heaven, it's safe to say most "Christians" are disingenuous hypocrites

>>15381283
It's all nonsense, anyone who describes their authority as dominant alpha is pretty much saying nothing. Lots of 'conservatives' are extremely anti war historically. Confuscians were anti-war cf to legalists

>>15381289
Doesn't look like a Negroid/Congoid. Looks Caucasian.

>>15381300
>>15381289
>>15381269

>>15381318
Nigga he's literally got black skin and an afro. He looks like Kaepernick.

>>15381300
>He literally stated outright that the rich cannot get into heaven
He said it was incredibly difficult. To say impossible is to asset that Christ could not have fit a camel through the eye of the needle, which he could have done had he wanted to.

>>15381300
Most Christians are not rich you retard

>>15381167
Progressive just means whatever is radical that time and place. Modern conservatives would be considered radical for not wanting to kills homosexuals a few centuries. Also the most conservative ideology in this world today is ISIS. Don’t listen to libtrards about how real Islam is a progressive religion.

>>15381334
Kaepernick looks mixed, not really black.

>>15381344
Conservatives are libtards p:

>>15381352
Right until he steals your bike then he's just another nigger that needs shot right, /pol/?

>>15381342
That doesn’t seem to stop them from white knighting those who are

>>15381344
Modern "conservatives" are cucks.

>>15381357
he's 50% as likely to steal your bike as a normal black

>>15381356
Compared to ISIS yes. It all has to with context and place.

>>15381357
Where did that come from? You're a bit defensive and insecure.

>>15381356
they are literally liberals in the historical sense

>>15381370
No, you're using politics or relativity metaphysics to define liberals. A liberal is a political philosophy justified from a metaphysics of it's time that rejected universal authority, spiritual or physical. A liberal isn't 'nicest ppl living rn' or however you define liberal

you fall into liberal or conservative in America if you don't have principles and follow your bare instincts. take that how you will.

>>15381375
In the ontological sense. They accept the same major principles. Individual freedom, human rights, separation of church and state, let the citizen decide their life

>>15381378
Completely wrong. It’s a sliding scale not set in stone. Liberal of the 1950s would be conservative today. Hegelian Dialectics bitch

>My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place. Also men should cut their cocks off and killing unborn babies is A-okay.
WOAH dude Jesus was like so progressive! hes just like me and my fellow democrats!

>>15381374
>e-psychoanalysis
cringe

>>15381392
Did you steal bikes when you were a kid?

>>15381391
>democrats
>progressive
Do Americans really...?

>>15381387
Well that's entirely wrong because then you can't use liberal to mean anything. Seriously how do you define liberal then? You can't use the polphil definition since it's 'developed' past this interpretation

Name one (1) good human being who wasn't right wing

>>15381405
Unfortunately

>dominant alpha
Tell me how I knew this was made by a so-called
conservative.

>>15381408
Mosley

>>15381408
Rw isn't a thing. Nobody today is particularly noble

>>15381408
Define "right-wing".

>>15381406
Liberal is contextual and based on the ideology it’s trying to destroy the form of given a particular time. If you can’t agree with and think that liberal can be used to draft an objective set of ideas and philosophies then you’re brainlet and completely disregarding historical context

>>15381419
“Social orders and hierarchies? Even if they’re unequal, they have to exist.”

>>15381422
So how does liberal now, and definition please, cf to liberal in the 1800s in that they're so different?

>>15381422
That's not at all what liberal means. You're thinking progressive or revolutionary. Liberal means " is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion." Ben Shapiro for example, is a conservative liberal.

>>15381429
Marx had a hierarchy of worker first and bourgeoisie last, was marx a leftist? Or does killing and stealing your land only if you're bourgeoisie not imply a hierarchy

>>15381414
Literally all the Progressive terms are positive, and the Right wing side has stuff like
>defensive
>limited
>sentimental
>discriminating
>supports the rich against the poor(lol)

>>15381440
>was marx a leftist?
Did you forget the goal of communism

>>15381432
Liberals of 1800s: they are two distinct genders and sexes with their own strength and weaknesses but we should still let women vote as their new viewpoint pay prove to be useful See JSM work on women. He was considered very liberal

Liberals of today: There is no such thing as gender or sex

>>15381435
He's arguing a dialectic metaphysics, he's arguing the term has evolved. I'm just not sure what the term would be and how helpful or correct it would be to say it evolved

>>15381249
I mean, just watch any lefty protest. They look weak and faggy..

>>15381441
Um, based department?

>>15381435
>they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality,
Except all that is totally dependent on context. Free some does not mean the same thing in each century

>>15381445
To have party members over the officers in the military? Is that not a hierarchy either?

>>15381450
Unlike the strong right-wing masterrace.

>>15381167
Issue: Politics
>Conservative: Based
>Progressive: Cringe

>>15381491
Thinking you understand Marx is the first mistake most critics make

>>15381506
>Centrist: Ascended Chad.

>>15381506
>>15381517
cringe

>>15381510
Ofc

>>15381300
He literally said that it's difficult, but with God all things are possible. Actually read the Bible instead of just repeating things you heard.

>>15381550
He said it's damn near impossible. Overabundance of wealth corrupts the soul.

>>15381167

>discriminating
>against the poor

vs

>cooperation
>diplomacy
>tolerance
>sympathetic
>curiosity
>fair

Not biased at all lmao.

Have you guys never heard of christian socialism? I mean it doesn't matter anyway since "debunking christianity" is literally a phase that 15 year olds go through. Discuss something that hasn't already been settled many, many times.

>>15381586
Those are seen as negative qualities by conservatives. The "dominant alpha" thing gives it away. It's made by a con.

>>15381501
This picture really redpilled me on media optics manipulation. yeah this retarded monkey looking dude is there but so is a chad (to the left of le monke's face). Take a picture of that dude and suddenly that protest is composed of cool and attractive people. The media is so brazen with this sort of shit lol, hundreds or thousands of pics are taken of protests and they consistently use heroic looking ones for liberal movements and mong-tier ones for rightie movements

>>15381602
Those are seen as negative things by progressives, the alpha caricature is frequently used as an insult against conservatives. The image was incredibly clearly made by a progressive

>>15381644
Yea, you're probably right.

>>15381602
The fact that you say that means you either don't understand the image or you're some weird type of conservative yourself.

>>15381644
>culture:sentimental
Do you really think a lwer would say a rwer is sentimental about culture? The freudian slip is it's sentimental about past but lwers try to pretend they dominate sentimentality

>>15381635
Same could be apply to "lefty" protests, though. We see what we want to see.

>>15381661
applied* ffs.

>>15381644
Also do lwers not consider themselves loyal in regards to war?

>>15381586
>>15381602
As an extreme conservative I think it's pretty fair. On the Authority section they were just opposing "dominant alpha type" to "spread authority type" beliefs on organizational structure, though I guess it sounds kinda cringe. There are people in here calling OP's bait biased for each side so that should be something of an indication that it isn't that biased. If anything the fact that it might look bad for conservatives to a normie is just proof of the normative moral status of left-liberalism

Marx is a conservative

>>15381669
>>15381662
lwers=/=progressives

>>15381672
The right interpreting left side makes sense. There's nothing out of the ordinary but left interpreting right side is weird. It was either a left winger trying too hard to be unbiased that they said rwers are loyal in war cf lwers or it was a rwer who missed his bias on how he viewed things

>>15381672
>As an extreme conservative
How extreme are you really? Because I've noticed that modern conservatives are barely even socially conservative and not at all economically conservative (they like rampant capitalism).

>>15381679
Politics != a damned thing, I'm just saying for a lwer to give those traits to a rwer is a huge oversight. I'd never call a rwer sentimental if my whole platform was based on sentimentalizing groups of ppl and I thought the rw didn't. A more objective term would be traditional

>>15381662
Sentimental is a pejorative here, it's meant to make them sound irrationally emotional about their culture
>>15381669
again loyalty is referring to in group preference

If a conservative made this image the Con side would have stuff like 'self-sufficient', 'supports freedom', etc. and the progressive side would have stuff like 'jealous', 'censorious'.

Idk how you guys can not see the asymmetry in how many of the Conservative qualities are negative, and 0 of the progressive ones are.

>>15381693
Those are definitely reaches. I wouldn't in war say someone else, in contradiction to me, is loyal especially if I meant they had 'in group biases' whatever the ff that means

>>15381690
Fair enough.

>>15381693
When has a commie not supported a commie in war?

>>15381693
"spread authority" sounds a bit like authoritarianism

>>15381693
>again loyalty is referring to in group preference
So the retarded American marines dying for Israel in shit wars are supposedly loyal to Burgerland, correct?

>>15381705
They said that conservatives are 'assertive, defensive, wary, loyal'. They contrasted this with progressives being 'conciliatory, cooperative, diplomatic'. You're going to tell me that is a conservative bias?

The loyal thing is obviously meant as a jab at them, saying they will protect and fight back for their side no matter what instead of seeking to solve the conflict. How obvious does this have to be

>>15381280
David stood in front of his elementary school students. He couldn't believe it. Here he was in Japan, leading his first lesson as a real live English teacher. His dream had finally come true. The students stood, and bowed to him, their new sensei, then sat down again. It was time to do his self-introduction lesson, which he had practiced for ten hours straight at his dispatch company's compound outside Tokyo. He cleared his throat. "Good morning!" he said, joyously. "Goodo morinuno," his students responded in unison. David smiled broadly. Their pronunciation could use some work, but they understood the meaning. "My name is David. Please call me David-sensei." The children looked at each other, bewildered. David pointed to his chest, then, remembering his cross-cultural sensitivity training, pointed instead to his nose. "David." He said. The kids understood. "Debito," they repeated. A chill ran through David. What on earth were they saying? Who was this mysterious Debito? "No, no, no. David." "Debito." "NO! David! My name is David!" "Debito." "DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! DAVID!" Just as the children began to say "De-," David screamed like a wild animal at the top of his lungs. He tore off his shirt and collapsed to the floor. He began rolling around in circles, crying and shitting himself. This wasn't the Japan he'd had in mind.

>>15381709
It literally means the opposite, to not let one person or group have it, but allow more people a say.

>>15381724
and who allow more people a say?.

>>15381661
Yeah I mean no political rally is in short supply of deviants or genetic monstrosities. Looks above all matter to normal people because ugly people typically have low social capital and associating with them might threaten one's own social capital. That "Optics" is a discrete category of political strategy and not the whole of it just reveals the fringe status of any political activist, for normal people optics is basically the entire content of thought. This is why the media has and will continue to have such an easy time creating realities

>>15381685
Heh I guess it's somewhat embarrassing to call oneself an extreme conservative in a society that's been a liberal democracy for hundreds of years (so what are you, a liberal from 40 rather than 20 years ago?). But I would say that I'm something of a High Tory (but only a larper because I'm American). I would also probably join a scary "right wing socialist" movement if it had sufficient sacral and mystical qualities

>>15381722
They suffix 'oo' sound so 'u'

>>15381269
>>15381289
>>15381300
Jesus was not a socially progressive black marxist, he was the son of God

>>15382039
He was perceived as progressive and rebellious in his time. Certainly not a conservative or else he wouldn't have been killed.

>>15382039
>he was the son of God
Who isn't?

>>15381167
The Controversy of Zion
"Jews often, and quite genuinely, cannot envisage a calamity involving Jews, and no matter how many more non-Jews, as anything but ―a Jewish catastrophe."

>>15381289
Tan or black?

>>15381289
>be semetic
>this is now black
Someone tell Jerry Seinfeld he can now pull the race card.

>>15381167
ask me how i know OP's pic was made by a progressive.

btw, progressives are NOT tolerant, and they don't support the poor, they're not fair or egalitarian, and they don't share authority. They're not even inquisitive and questioning. They're just as dogmatic as they claim conservatives are.

>>15382580
They're not anything you moron, it's all politics. If you're upset by fake descriptions then you're the one w the problem

>>15381167
my diary.
why shouldn't they? take any category and see that people divide into two camps, and those indifferent are not seen or heard. then the fact that people have preference for change or for sameness is boring conversation

>>15381167
Propaganda by Edward Bernays.

>>15381280
What was once progressive becomes tradition over time. Conservatives merely adopt and cherish what the progressives once fought for. It is a fallacy to think that society necessarily improves over time.

>>15381289
jesus was way blacker than that in real life

I'm progressive on all those points but leftists would call me a neonazi (and I'm not even racist).

>>15381575
And right after he said that, the apostles asked him how anyone could be saved at all if it's so difficult for a man to be saved just for being rich, and Jesus said with God all things are possible. Again, actually read the Bible.

>>15381415
Gottem

>>15381167
>progressive culture
>tolerant
Lmao who made this? Modern day progressives are the least tolerant people of everyone, they actively campaign to get anyone who doesn't parrot their narrow view of the world to get thrown off online platforms and even want hate speech laws so that the government can imprison people who make offensive comments.

>>15381167
As a radical Marxist, i want to abolish all this, except sex/Gender (this one, it's the Capital who wants to abolish it).

On reals to this, another to that wall;

'tis the same error that deludes them all

>>15384152
There is an inbred malady in every one of us, there is seminarium stultifia, a seminary of folly.

>>15381288
Now say "Jesus Christ," or "Jesus of Nazareth" in full.