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15351342 No.15351342 [Reply] [Original]

>takes the concept of Tao
>calls it Will
What did he mean by this?

>> No.15351356
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>>15351342
>>15351342
>takes the concept of Tao
>calls it God
What did he mean by this?

>> No.15351367
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it means that he successfully found the common thread of western and eastern thought.

>> No.15351370
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>takes the concept of Tao
>calls it transcendental philosophy

What did he mean by this?

>> No.15351378

>>15351342
No you fucking retard, the Will is literally something to be denied, constant willing-to-someething, desiring, and must be quieted as it were, and to follow through on the greatest developments of the Schopenhauerian philosophy in Wagner: must be redeemed. Whether in art or other means.

>>15351356
I don't need to explain why this is wrong.

>> No.15351391
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>>15351378
*blocks your path*

>> No.15351405

>>15351378
Isn't Taoism's Wu Wei basically the same thing?

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>>15351391
A genius yes!- but not as great as Wagner, philosophically and artistically( and commercially), as well as the ever-deep personal relationship between the two, likely of a parental character: all reasons why Wagner ran as a base cord throughout Nietzsche's life and works.

>> No.15351465

>>15351405
>Wu Wei
It may be similar, and even find the same ends sometimes, but no it is not the same.

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>>15351378
>the Will is something to be denied
this is the fundamental and only error of Schopenhauer

>> No.15351703 [DELETED] 

>>15351514
>I saw a thing that made me happy
>Therefore, the Schopenhauer's view on the Will is wrong
Nice

>> No.15351710

>>15351514
>I saw a thing that made me happy
>Therefore, Schopenhauer's view on the Will is wrong
Nice

>> No.15351737
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>>15351710
this but unironically
A single moment of true beauty or love is worth a thousand pains. It is tragedy that gives meaning to meaning.

>> No.15351805

>>15351342
Actually Schopenhauer called himself a "Buddha-ist" so it was the concept of dukkha.

>> No.15351825

>>15351737
We've come full circle. First, the people who haven't read Schopenhauer said that he's wrong because his view are just because he's sad. Now we have people saying that he's wrong because of their own subjective experiences. Fine, let's play that game. The ephemeral pleasure I have derived from the achievements I worked so hard for and the interactions I've had with certain people, pale in comparison to the lows I have experienced and for how long I experienced them for. Now what?

>> No.15351840

>>15351825
Avoid all human contact except a small group of friends you know at a nearby restaurant, buy a poodle, live in a small apartment, play music for entertainment, visit the theatre, and otherwise renounce the world.

>> No.15351913

>>15351840
Thanks mate, appreciate it

>> No.15351976

>>15351342
Where there's a will there's a way, anon.

>> No.15351981

>>15351976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

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>>15351825
Schopenhauer is Pessimistic Neoplatonism. But his anagoge could only reach the Night, the indefinite abyss of power, the dynamis ton panton, the pure Wille before all things for all things to be.
But, for all his insight, he never beheld Atum-Ra in the Horizon of Night. That the beginning is the end, that rest is flow. The Flower of his soul peered beyond the cave but never overcame the blinding illumination, not knowing that he was standing in the sun he thought he walked in the meaningless void of oblivion.
And indeed it is a circle, you never left what you chose to leave.

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>takes the Tao
>calls it The One And The All

>> No.15352527

>>15351378
thats just regarding it's consequences on the human experience and not the cosmic force

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>>15351737
stop larping

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>>15352534
Sweet child in time
You'll see the line
The line that's drawn between
Good and bad
See the blind man
Shooting at the world
Bullets flying
Ohh taking toll
If you've been bad
Oh Lord I bet you have
And you've not been hit
Oh by flying lead
You'd better close your eyes
Ooohhhh bow your head

>> No.15352643

>>15351378
>No you fucking retard, the Will is literally something to be denied, constant willing-to-someething, desiring, and must be quieted as it were, and to follow through on the greatest developments of the Schopenhauerian philosophy in Wagner: must be redeemed. Whether in art or other means.
How does all this jibe with the Will being the Noumenal world? Sounds like a non-sequitur.

>> No.15352648

>>15351378
Why are you describing the Tao

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>believes in the Will
>all the scholars keep saying he was an atheist
So which is it?